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** I like the previous troper's thoughts about Doris and Egon, but the theory about an Origin!Ulrich leaving town doesn't work because Ulrich cannot exist in the Origin World. His entire existence traces back to Agnes Nielsen, his grandmother, and she cannot exist without her mother, Silja, and SHE cannot exist without Hannah traveling back to 1953 and having an affair with Egon. Not to mention the fact that Bartosz is Silja's father, so his time-traveling would also be necessary for her birth. And that doesn't even get into Ulrich's connection with the Unknown, who is both his grandfather (Agnes+Unknown = Tronte, Ulrich's father) AND his grandson (Martha+Jonas = The Unknown) AND his great-grandson (because The Unknown is the son of Jonas, who is the son of Mikkel, Ulrich's son). Basically, Ulrich's ancestry is 100% bound up in the Knot. When it dissolves, so does he.
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** I like the previous troper's thoughts about Doris and Egon, but the theory about an Origin!Ulrich leaving town doesn't work because Ulrich cannot exist in the Origin World. His entire existence traces back to Agnes Nielsen, his grandmother, and she cannot exist without her mother, Silja, and SHE cannot exist without Hannah traveling back to 1953 and having an affair with Egon. Not to mention the fact that Bartosz is Silja's father, so his time-traveling would also be necessary for her birth. And that doesn't even get into Ulrich's connection with the Unknown, who is both his grandfather (Agnes+Unknown = Tronte, Ulrich's father) AND his grandson (Martha+Jonas = The Unknown) AND his great-grandson (because The Unknown is the son of Jonas, who is the son of Mikkel, Ulrich's son). Basically, Ulrich's ancestry is 100% bound up in the Knot. When it dissolves, so does he.he.
* OP of this WMG here, and neither of you really understood what I was really aiming at. Basically, all of the characters inside the knot have the chance to be born eventually, but they will be different since they'll have only one parent in common with their counterparts from the knot, because time will pass in a linear fashion. So Ulrich might eventually be born as the son of Tronte, but only after Hannah has a second child she names Silja, who grows up and becomes the mother of Agnes, who then in turn grows up and has Tronte. Basically, Ulrich wouldn't be a contemporary of the people he grew up with in the knot universes, he would be Hannah's great-great-grandson and be born something like 80-100 years after her.
* OP of this WMG here, and neither of you really understood what I was really aiming at. Basically, all of the characters inside the knot have the chance to be born eventually, but they will be different since they'll have only one parent in common with their counterparts from the knot, because time will pass in a linear fashion. So Ulrich might eventually be born as the son of Tronte, but only after Hannah has a second child she names Silja, who grows up and becomes the mother of Agnes, who then in turn grows up and has Tronte. Basically, Ulrich wouldn't be a contemporary of the people he grew up with in the knot universes, he would be Hannah's great-great-grandson and be born something like 80-100 years after her.
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* Ulrich has left the town and has not become a police officer. This is due to his brother, Mads, not disappearing and motivating him to become a better police officer due to Egon not being able to do his job in Ulrich's eyes. That means that Martha not only ceases to exist, but Magnus and Mikkel also have as well. This, in turn, leads to Jonas not being born (and the Jonas that is suggested at the end of the story will be a different Jonas that isn't remotely like the one we've followed). Also, Egon and Doris may still have been together for a much longer time before divorcing, as without Agnes seducing Doris, without Hannah getting involved with Egon, and without The Unknown telling Doris about Egon's infidelity, she may have ended up staying in the relationship much longer than she had in the knot timeline.
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* Ulrich has left the town and has not become a police officer. This is due to his brother, Mads, not disappearing and motivating him to become a better police officer due to Egon not being able to do his job in Ulrich's eyes. That means that Martha not only ceases to exist, but Magnus and Mikkel also have as well. This, in turn, leads to Jonas not being born (and the Jonas that is suggested at the end of the story will be a different Jonas that isn't remotely like the one we've followed). Also, Egon and Doris may still have been together for a much longer time before divorcing, as without Agnes seducing Doris, without Hannah getting involved with Egon, and without The Unknown telling Doris about Egon's infidelity, she may have ended up staying in the relationship much longer than she had in the knot timeline.timeline.
** I like the previous troper's thoughts about Doris and Egon, but the theory about an Origin!Ulrich leaving town doesn't work because Ulrich cannot exist in the Origin World. His entire existence traces back to Agnes Nielsen, his grandmother, and she cannot exist without her mother, Silja, and SHE cannot exist without Hannah traveling back to 1953 and having an affair with Egon. Not to mention the fact that Bartosz is Silja's father, so his time-traveling would also be necessary for her birth. And that doesn't even get into Ulrich's connection with the Unknown, who is both his grandfather (Agnes+Unknown = Tronte, Ulrich's father) AND his grandson (Martha+Jonas = The Unknown) AND his great-grandson (because The Unknown is the son of Jonas, who is the son of Mikkel, Ulrich's son). Basically, Ulrich's ancestry is 100% bound up in the Knot. When it dissolves, so does he.
** I like the previous troper's thoughts about Doris and Egon, but the theory about an Origin!Ulrich leaving town doesn't work because Ulrich cannot exist in the Origin World. His entire existence traces back to Agnes Nielsen, his grandmother, and she cannot exist without her mother, Silja, and SHE cannot exist without Hannah traveling back to 1953 and having an affair with Egon. Not to mention the fact that Bartosz is Silja's father, so his time-traveling would also be necessary for her birth. And that doesn't even get into Ulrich's connection with the Unknown, who is both his grandfather (Agnes+Unknown = Tronte, Ulrich's father) AND his grandson (Martha+Jonas = The Unknown) AND his great-grandson (because The Unknown is the son of Jonas, who is the son of Mikkel, Ulrich's son). Basically, Ulrich's ancestry is 100% bound up in the Knot. When it dissolves, so does he.
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[[spoiler: Since all of the characters born because of the Knot were connected to those existing independent of it, versions of some of them still have a chance to be born - like Hannah seeing the yellow jacket and thinking that the name "Jonas" sounds lovely. We know another version of Charlotte exists in the daughter of Marek and Sonja Tannhaus; any of the characters at the Dinner Party could have children we haven't seen, who carry the names of their offspring from the knot. The same goes for characters from the past - Egon and Doris Tiedemann may still have divorced, and Egon may have had another daughter with a second wife, etc. Even Aleksander/Boris could have a son somewhere he named Bartosz. They wouldn't be the same people, but some part of them might still exist.]]
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[[spoiler: Since all of the characters born because of the Knot were connected to those existing independent of it, versions of some of them still have a chance to be born - like Hannah seeing the yellow jacket and thinking that the name "Jonas" sounds lovely. We know another version of Charlotte exists in the daughter of Marek and Sonja Tannhaus; any of the characters at the Dinner Party could have children we haven't seen, who carry the names of their offspring from the knot. The same goes for characters from the past - Egon and Doris Tiedemann may still have divorced, and Egon may have had another daughter with a second wife, etc. Even Aleksander/Boris could have a son somewhere he named Bartosz. They wouldn't be the same people, but some part of them might still exist.]]]]
* Ulrich has left the town and has not become a police officer. This is due to his brother, Mads, not disappearing and motivating him to become a better police officer due to Egon not being able to do his job in Ulrich's eyes. That means that Martha not only ceases to exist, but Magnus and Mikkel also have as well. This, in turn, leads to Jonas not being born (and the Jonas that is suggested at the end of the story will be a different Jonas that isn't remotely like the one we've followed). Also, Egon and Doris may still have been together for a much longer time before divorcing, as without Agnes seducing Doris, without Hannah getting involved with Egon, and without The Unknown telling Doris about Egon's infidelity, she may have ended up staying in the relationship much longer than she had in the knot timeline.
* Ulrich has left the town and has not become a police officer. This is due to his brother, Mads, not disappearing and motivating him to become a better police officer due to Egon not being able to do his job in Ulrich's eyes. That means that Martha not only ceases to exist, but Magnus and Mikkel also have as well. This, in turn, leads to Jonas not being born (and the Jonas that is suggested at the end of the story will be a different Jonas that isn't remotely like the one we've followed). Also, Egon and Doris may still have been together for a much longer time before divorcing, as without Agnes seducing Doris, without Hannah getting involved with Egon, and without The Unknown telling Doris about Egon's infidelity, she may have ended up staying in the relationship much longer than she had in the knot timeline.
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** [[spoiler: In Season 3 Agnes' grandmother is revealed to be Hannah.]]
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[[spoiler: Since all of the characters born because of the Knot were connected to those existing independent of it, versions of some of them still have a chance to be born - like Hannah seeing the yellow jacket and thinking that the name "Jonas" sounds lovely. We know another version of Charlotte exists in the daughter of Marek and Sonja Tannhaus; any of the characters at the Dinner Party could have children we haven't seen, who carry the names of their offspring from the knot. The same goes for characters from the past - Egon and Doris Tiedemann may still have divorced, and Egon may have had another daughter with a second wife, etc. Even Aleksander/Boris could have a son somewhere he named Bartosz. They wouldn't be the same people, but some part of them might still exist.]]
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**[[spoiler: In Season 3, we find out that Noah is Bartosz's son, so OP wasn't completely off the mark guessing they'd be connected.]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. The "Girl from the Future", Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon...conceived when Hannah traveled back to 1954 and had an affair with Egon.]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. The "Girl from the Future", Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon...conceived when Hannah traveled back to 1954 and had an affair with Egon.]] Of course, this makes her Jonas' sister.]]
[[WMG: The fate of characters at the end of the series]]
[[spoiler: Since all of the characters born because of the Knot were connected to those existing independent of it, versions of some of them still have a chance to be born - like Hannah seeing the yellow jacket and thinking that the name "Jonas" sounds lovely. We know another version of Charlotte exists in the daughter of Marek and Sonja Tannhaus; any of the characters at the Dinner Party could have children we haven't seen, who carry the names of their offspring from the knot. The same goes for characters from the past - Egon and Doris Tiedemann may still have divorced, and Egon may have had another daughter with a second wife, etc. Even Aleksander/Boris could have a son somewhere he named Bartosz. They wouldn't be the same people, but some part of them might still exist.
[[WMG: The fate of characters at the end of the series]]
[[spoiler: Since all of the characters born because of the Knot were connected to those existing independent of it, versions of some of them still have a chance to be born - like Hannah seeing the yellow jacket and thinking that the name "Jonas" sounds lovely. We know another version of Charlotte exists in the daughter of Marek and Sonja Tannhaus; any of the characters at the Dinner Party could have children we haven't seen, who carry the names of their offspring from the knot. The same goes for characters from the past - Egon and Doris Tiedemann may still have divorced, and Egon may have had another daughter with a second wife, etc. Even Aleksander/Boris could have a son somewhere he named Bartosz. They wouldn't be the same people, but some part of them might still exist.
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* Jossed: Agnes is revealed in Season 2 to be Noah's [[spoiler: ''sister.'']]
'']] And in Season 3, her husband (assuming they were ever actually 'married') is revealed to be [[spoiler: Jonas and Alt-Martha's nameless child]].
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** Season 3 reveals that she's [[spoiler: the illegitimate daughter of Hannah and Egon.]]
** [[spoiler: Played with. By the end of the show, Michael's suicide undone because Michael's very existence is undone, along with that of most of the characters]].
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Hence why the audience is repeatedly shown scenes of them having sex from both Jonas ''and'' Martha's POV. Also makes sense for why [[spoiler: Elli didn't kill Jonas when he traveled to 2052, and why Elli won't kill The Girl even though we last see her being held at gunpoint]] Perhaps [[spoiler: Elli]] has been entrusted by Adam with looking after Jonas and Martha's daughter.
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Hence why the audience is repeatedly shown scenes of them having sex from both Jonas ''and'' Martha's POV. Also makes sense for why [[spoiler: Elli didn't kill Jonas when he traveled to 2052, and why Elli won't kill The Girl even though we last see her being held at gunpoint]] Perhaps [[spoiler: Elli]] has been entrusted by Adam with looking after Jonas and Martha's daughter.daughter.
** [[spoiler: Jossed. The "Girl from the Future", Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon...conceived when Hannah traveled back to 1954 and had an affair with Egon.]]
** [[spoiler: Jossed. The "Girl from the Future", Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon...conceived when Hannah traveled back to 1954 and had an affair with Egon.]]
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* Well there's a moment late in Season 2 in which he's imagining Martha, so that does seem to confirm his identity.
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* Well there's a moment late in Season 2 in which he's imagining Martha, so that does seem to confirm his identity.identity.
[[WMG: The "Girl From The Future" is Jonas and Martha's daughter]]
Hence why the audience is repeatedly shown scenes of them having sex from both Jonas ''and'' Martha's POV. Also makes sense for why [[spoiler: Elli didn't kill Jonas when he traveled to 2052, and why Elli won't kill The Girl even though we last see her being held at gunpoint]] Perhaps [[spoiler: Elli]] has been entrusted by Adam with looking after Jonas and Martha's daughter.
[[WMG: The "Girl From The Future" is Jonas and Martha's daughter]]
Hence why the audience is repeatedly shown scenes of them having sex from both Jonas ''and'' Martha's POV. Also makes sense for why [[spoiler: Elli didn't kill Jonas when he traveled to 2052, and why Elli won't kill The Girl even though we last see her being held at gunpoint]] Perhaps [[spoiler: Elli]] has been entrusted by Adam with looking after Jonas and Martha's daughter.
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* Jossed: We see young Noah in Season 2 and he looks nothing like Bartosz.
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* Jossed: We see young Noah in Season 2 and he looks nothing like different from Bartosz.
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* Highly unlikely though. Aleksander in the 1986/87 timeline is just a few years older than Bartsosz in the 2019/20 timeline. There's no way they're the same person. The series uses different actors for characters who are 33 years apart in age...not 3ish years!
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The only evidence we have is his word and a scar, and why should we believe him?
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The only evidence we have is his word and a scar, and why should we believe him?him?
* Well there's a moment late in Season 2 in which he's imagining Martha, so that does seem to confirm his identity.
* Well there's a moment late in Season 2 in which he's imagining Martha, so that does seem to confirm his identity.
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Again, they look similar (even moreso than Noah and Bartosz), and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
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Again, they look similar (even moreso than Noah and Bartosz), and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
told. And given how [[MyOwnGrandpa Charlotte & Elizabeth's relationship]] shaped up, it's [[{{Squick}} not out of the question]].
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Again, they look similar, and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
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Again, they look similar, similar (even moreso than Noah and Bartosz), and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
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Most likely either because the suicide was faked in the first place in order to preserve the timeloop or because the eventual breaking of the timeloop changes the story and allows him a happy ending.
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Most likely either because the suicide was faked in the first place in order to preserve the timeloop or because the eventual breaking of the timeloop changes the story and allows him a happy ending.ending.
[[WMG: Adam ''isn't'' who he says he is]]
The only evidence we have is his word and a scar, and why should we believe him?
[[WMG: Adam ''isn't'' who he says he is]]
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[[WMG: Aleksander/Boris is future Bartosz.]]
Again, they look similar, and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
Again, they look similar, and there's more to the Aleksander/Boris story than has been told.
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** Well, she's unrelated to [[spoiler:''that'' Martha]], anyway.
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* Jossed in season 2: Martha [[spoiler:dies just before the apocalypse]], so the girl is unrelated to her.
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The only way this can be possible is if the range of time covered by the wormhole has increased. We saw Jonas arrive in the future at the end of season one, so who's to say the wormhole hasn't also gone further into the past ie: 66 years either side of 1986/7?
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The only way this can be possible is if the range of time covered by the wormhole has increased. We saw Jonas arrive in the future at the end of season one, so who's to say the wormhole hasn't also gone further into the past ie: 66 years either side of 1986/7?1986/7?
[[WMG: By the end of the show, Michael's suicide will be undone]]
Mikkel is obsessed with Houdini. What is Houdini famous for? Not just being a magician, but being an ''escape artist''. No matter how impossible it looks, thematically he should escape his fate.
Most likely either because the suicide was faked in the first place in order to preserve the timeloop or because the eventual breaking of the timeloop changes the story and allows him a happy ending.
[[WMG: By the end of the show, Michael's suicide will be undone]]
Mikkel is obsessed with Houdini. What is Houdini famous for? Not just being a magician, but being an ''escape artist''. No matter how impossible it looks, thematically he should escape his fate.
Most likely either because the suicide was faked in the first place in order to preserve the timeloop or because the eventual breaking of the timeloop changes the story and allows him a happy ending.
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[[WMG: Noah is future Bartosz.
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[[WMG: Noah is future Bartosz.]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Scarred future girl]] is Martha.]]
She looks similar, and she seems to recognize Jonas [[spoiler: and that he's from the past]].
* [[spoiler: Unlikely. Her actress, Lea van Acken, is 18 years old. If she really is connected to Martha in some way, it's more likely she is her daughter.]]
[[WMG: Noah is]] [[spoiler: future Bartosz.]]
They look similar, and [[spoiler: Bartosz]] is being lead down a dark path, especially as he turns against Jonas.
[[WMG: Season 2 will be set in [[spoiler: 2052/3 ''and'' 1920/1, because Jonas' attempt to destroy the wormhole expanded it or created two in the same place.]] ]]
She looks similar, and she seems to recognize Jonas [[spoiler: and that he's from the past]].
* [[spoiler: Unlikely. Her actress, Lea van Acken, is 18 years old. If she really is connected to Martha in some way, it's more likely she is her daughter.]]
[[WMG: Noah is]] [[spoiler: future Bartosz.]]
They look similar, and [[spoiler: Bartosz]] is being lead down a dark path, especially as he turns against Jonas.
[[WMG: Season 2 will be set in [[spoiler: 2052/3 ''and'' 1920/1, because Jonas' attempt to destroy the wormhole expanded it or created two in the same place.]] ]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Scarred future girl]] girl is Martha.]]
She looks similar, and she seems to recognizeJonas [[spoiler: Jonas, and that he's from the past]].
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[[WMG: Noahis]] [[spoiler: is future Bartosz.]]
Bartosz.
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[[WMG: Season 2 will be set in[[spoiler: 2052/3 ''and'' 1920/1, because Jonas' attempt to destroy the wormhole expanded it or created two in the same place.]] ]]
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The only way this can be possible is if the range of time covered by the wormhole has increased. We saw [[spoiler: Jonas arrive in the future at the end of season one, so who's to say the wormhole hasn't also gone further into the past ie: 66 years either side of 1986/7? ]]1986/7?
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They look similar, and [[spoiler: Bartosz]] is being lead down a dark path, especially as he turns against Jonas.Jonas.
[[WMG: Season 2 will be set in [[spoiler: 2052/3 ''and'' 1920/1, because Jonas' attempt to destroy the wormhole expanded it or created two in the same place.]] ]]
When Agnes Nielsen is asked by Egon who her grandmother was, she is interrupted before she can answer. TheLawOfConservationOfDetail suggests that whatever name she was about to give would be one the viewer will recognise. In order for this to be true, one of the characters we've seen must travel back to the past to become her grandmother. But for ''this'' to be the case they must travel back further than 1953.
The only way this can be possible is if the range of time covered by the wormhole has increased. We saw [[spoiler: Jonas arrive in the future at the end of season one, so who's to say the wormhole hasn't also gone further into the past ie: 66 years either side of 1986/7? ]]
[[WMG: Season 2 will be set in [[spoiler: 2052/3 ''and'' 1920/1, because Jonas' attempt to destroy the wormhole expanded it or created two in the same place.]] ]]
When Agnes Nielsen is asked by Egon who her grandmother was, she is interrupted before she can answer. TheLawOfConservationOfDetail suggests that whatever name she was about to give would be one the viewer will recognise. In order for this to be true, one of the characters we've seen must travel back to the past to become her grandmother. But for ''this'' to be the case they must travel back further than 1953.
The only way this can be possible is if the range of time covered by the wormhole has increased. We saw [[spoiler: Jonas arrive in the future at the end of season one, so who's to say the wormhole hasn't also gone further into the past ie: 66 years either side of 1986/7? ]]
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[[WMG: Noah is]] [[spoiler: future Bartosz.]]
They look similar, and [[spoiler: Bartosz]] is being lead down a dark path, especially as he turns against Jonas.
[[WMG: Noah is]] [[spoiler: future Bartosz.]]
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* [[spoiler: Unlikely. Her actress, Lea van Acken, is 18 years old. If she really is connected to Martha in some way, it's more likely she is her daughter.]]
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When speaking of deceased husband to Doris she mentions he was a pastor and implies he abusive. Given the nature of this series, it would not be surprising if he was BackFromTheDead by some means and which character fits these aforementioned described traits?traits?
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Scarred future girl]] is Martha.]]
She looks similar, and she seems to recognize Jonas [[spoiler: and that he's from the past]].
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[[WMG: Agnes Nielsen's former husband was [[spoiler:Noah]]]]
When speaking of deceased husband to Doris she mentions he was a pastor and implies he abusive. Given the nature of this series, it would not be surprising if he was BackFromTheDead by some means and which character fits these aforementioned described traits?
When speaking of deceased husband to Doris she mentions he was a pastor and implies he abusive. Given the nature of this series, it would not be surprising if he was BackFromTheDead by some means and which character fits these aforementioned described traits?
