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[[WMG:Keira will turn out to to have history with Liber8.]]

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[[WMG:Keira will turn out to to have history with Liber8.[=Liber8=].]]



* Partially confirmed. As if episode 9, we've seen that before the execution her path had crossed with most of the members of Liber8. 

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* Partially confirmed. As if episode 9, we've seen that before the execution her path had crossed with most of the members of Liber8. [=Liber8=].



[[spoiler:As it turns out, ''her mother'' was part of a nonviolent citizen activist group which was accused of being part of Liber8, providing the authorities the excuse to cart them all off and throw them in jail.]] That's a history, all right.

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[[spoiler:As it turns out, ''her mother'' was part of a nonviolent citizen activist group which was accused of being part of Liber8, [=Liber8=], providing the authorities the excuse to cart them all off and throw them in jail.]] That's a history, all right.



[[WMG: There is, and always has been only one time-line. The older Alec Sadler is also a high-up in a deeply secretive and underground version of Liber8.]]

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[[WMG: There is, and always has been only one time-line. The older Alec Sadler is also a high-up in a deeply secretive and underground version of Liber8.[=Liber8=].]]



Alec, despite being the inventor of it seems most of the technology of 2077 and being a very rich and powerful man, might be disgusted at the state of things and the blatant misuse of his life's work. He's secretly a leader of an underground movement that has been building its power and influence for the past six decades at all levels worldwide, and as soon as the Liber8 members and Kiera are sent to the past (completing the time-loop) it'll be time for the millions of members to come out of hiding and essentially take the world back from the corporations / dictatorships. The whole purpose of Liber8 and Kiera in the past is not to change it, but to sow the seeds for the future.

Kagame's Liber8 could not win. He was defeated and set to be executed and lost hope, but Alec showed him that he'd actually ''won'' with there being millions around the world waiting for the proper time to rise up. Essentially, Kagame saw the fruits of his labor before he'd even did them and it gave him such hope that he was willing to go along with the time-travel plan and later die.

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Alec, despite being the inventor of it seems most of the technology of 2077 and being a very rich and powerful man, might be disgusted at the state of things and the blatant misuse of his life's work. He's secretly a leader of an underground movement that has been building its power and influence for the past six decades at all levels worldwide, and as soon as the Liber8 [=Liber8=] members and Kiera are sent to the past (completing the time-loop) it'll be time for the millions of members to come out of hiding and essentially take the world back from the corporations / dictatorships. The whole purpose of Liber8 [=Liber8=] and Kiera in the past is not to change it, but to sow the seeds for the future.

Kagame's Liber8 [=Liber8=] could not win. He was defeated and set to be executed and lost hope, but Alec showed him that he'd actually ''won'' with there being millions around the world waiting for the proper time to rise up. Essentially, Kagame saw the fruits of his labor before he'd even did them and it gave him such hope that he was willing to go along with the time-travel plan and later die.



While temporal displacement seems to affect mental stability in some cases, for the most part people who are displaced seem to have all their mental faculties. They were put "in position" prior to the major displacement event pushing Liber8 into 2012 and have quietly banded together to subtly put themselves in positions of ability to aid Kiera if Younger Alec should fail.

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While temporal displacement seems to affect mental stability in some cases, for the most part people who are displaced seem to have all their mental faculties. They were put "in position" prior to the major displacement event pushing Liber8 [=Liber8=] into 2012 and have quietly banded together to subtly put themselves in positions of ability to aid Kiera if Younger Alec should fail.



* It looks like "Freelancers" are [[spoiler:actually part of the Super Soldier program, and their 'futuristic compared to 2077' tech is secret, highly classified stuff that Kiera would not have known about, but Old Alec does. In light of this, Old Alec almost certainly knew that Mr. Escher was bootstrapping Piron from detailed examination of the Liber8 soldiers, as well as old fashioned industrial espionage.)]]

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* It looks like "Freelancers" are [[spoiler:actually part of the Super Soldier program, and their 'futuristic compared to 2077' tech is secret, highly classified stuff that Kiera would not have known about, but Old Alec does. In light of this, Old Alec almost certainly knew that Mr. Escher was bootstrapping Piron from detailed examination of the Liber8 [=Liber8=] soldiers, as well as old fashioned industrial espionage.)]]



What if, without her knowledge, [[spoiler:Old Alec asked the CPS to specifically earmark her for an experimental CMR not normally available to police? Possible indirect evidence is the fact that Liber8 people call her "Protector", and Travis's CMR can link up with hers. That capability would make complete sense in a military context, where troops would need to instantly communicate in fluid, highly dangerous situations. BUT it makes no sense to allow it for police officers, so Kiera's CMR in 2077 was set by default to disable the cross-CMR communication capability.]]

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What if, without her knowledge, [[spoiler:Old Alec asked the CPS to specifically earmark her for an experimental CMR not normally available to police? Possible indirect evidence is the fact that Liber8 [=Liber8=] people call her "Protector", and Travis's CMR can link up with hers. That capability would make complete sense in a military context, where troops would need to instantly communicate in fluid, highly dangerous situations. BUT it makes no sense to allow it for police officers, so Kiera's CMR in 2077 was set by default to disable the cross-CMR communication capability.]]



* Partly confirmed. [[spoiler:Kiera does indeed "team up" with the Freelancers, but Betty is now a reverse mole against Liber8 since Carlos busted her for spying.]]

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* Partly confirmed. [[spoiler:Kiera does indeed "team up" with the Freelancers, but Betty is now a reverse mole against Liber8 [=Liber8=] since Carlos busted her for spying.]]



Every group of time travelers, even those who have more advanced technology than 2077, is trying to get hold of the device. The design of the device doesn't match up with any of the other 2077 tech we have seen, and doesn't bear the hallmarks of SadTech. This makes the most sense if nobody knows how to make it, only how to use it - in which case, where did it come from? Maybe it appeared when the first time travelers did, and has just been reused over and over again.

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Every group of time travelers, even those who have more advanced technology than 2077, is trying to get hold of the device. The design of the device doesn't match up with any of the other 2077 tech we have seen, and doesn't bear the hallmarks of SadTech.[=SadTech=]. This makes the most sense if nobody knows how to make it, only how to use it - in which case, where did it come from? Maybe it appeared when the first time travelers did, and has just been reused over and over again.



The Freelancers deny doing it, and it couldn't possibly have been Liber8 since they don't know about the dual Kieras and would have been surprised to see her still alive if they had killed her. And in both the Freelancers and Liber8's cases, the pieces of the time travel device and Kiera's CPS suit would have been stolen, yet they were both still present on and by her corpse.

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The Freelancers deny doing it, and it couldn't possibly have been Liber8 [=Liber8=] since they don't know about the dual Kieras and would have been surprised to see her still alive if they had killed her. And in both the Freelancers and Liber8's [=Liber8's=] cases, the pieces of the time travel device and Kiera's CPS suit would have been stolen, yet they were both still present on and by her corpse.



[[spoiler:Also, it may be possible that this has happened before in the previous time-line that led to 2077, only in that version Kiera chose to kill the other Alec so she could have a chance of getting home. Kagame's bombing and Future!Alec's foreknowledge of some of Liber8's activities does suggest that a previous loop of some sort may have happened before, only this time Alec added more contingency plans to make sure the right version of him is eliminated. If Kiera still can't do it, Garza can, because we still don't know the extent of what Future!Alec told her to do.]]

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[[spoiler:Also, it may be possible that this has happened before in the previous time-line that led to 2077, only in that version Kiera chose to kill the other Alec so she could have a chance of getting home. Kagame's bombing and Future!Alec's foreknowledge of some of Liber8's [=Liber8's=] activities does suggest that a previous loop of some sort may have happened before, only this time Alec added more contingency plans to make sure the right version of him is eliminated. If Kiera still can't do it, Garza can, because we still don't know the extent of what Future!Alec told her to do.]]



[[WMG: Alec Sadler and Liber8]]

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[[WMG: Alec Sadler and Liber8]][=Liber8=]]]

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[[WMG:Keira is a descendant of Scarlett from {{GIJoe}}]]

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[[WMG: ''Continuum'' is a StealthPrequel to ''StarTrek''.]]

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[[WMG: ''Continuum'' is a StealthPrequel to ''StarTrek''.''Franchise/StarTrek''.]]
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* Looks like it was Jossed. [[spoiler:She was apparently selected from a group of call girls to meet Old Alec Sadler. Thus, her reaction to Young Alec also telling her he thought she was pretty. Interestingly, the functions of the CPS seem to extend to providing the kinds of things private security guards normally do in 2012, i.e. securing prostitutes for CEOs and the like. However in actual fact, she wasn't there to "service" Old Alec. He wanted to talk to her, and knew she was tasked to kill him. She was told by Old Alec to kill his younger self if he looked like he was embarking down the same path that would preserve the pre-time-travel 2077 timeline.]]

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* Looks like it was Jossed. [[spoiler:She was apparently selected from a group of call girls to meet Old Alec Sadler. Thus, her reaction to Young Alec also telling her he thought she was pretty. Interestingly, the functions of the CPS seem to extend to providing the kinds of things private security guards normally do in 2012, i.e. securing prostitutes for CEOs [=CEOs=] and the like. However in actual fact, she wasn't there to "service" Old Alec. He wanted to talk to her, and knew she was tasked to kill him. She was told by Old Alec to kill his younger self if he looked like he was embarking down the same path that would preserve the pre-time-travel 2077 timeline.]]



[[WMG:Escher is really Sam Cameron or one of his descendents. Emily is his daughter and Kiera's granddaughter (or later descendent).]]

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[[WMG:Escher is really Sam Cameron or one of his descendents.descendants. Emily is his daughter and Kiera's granddaughter (or later descendent).]]



Kellog [[spoiler:getting sent back to... whenever the heck he got sent back to]] creates yet another crapsack alternate future. The incessant screwing around with the timeline by [[GambitPileup everybody and their mother]] creates the relatively stable time portal used to send the settlers back in time. Had ''Terra Nova'' continued, Kellog would eventually have appeared as his usual MagnificentBastard self.

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Kellog [[spoiler:getting sent back to... whenever the heck he got sent back to]] creates yet another crapsack alternate future. The incessant screwing around with the timeline by [[GambitPileup everybody and their mother]] creates the relatively stable time portal used to send the settlers back in time. Had ''Terra Nova'' continued, Kellog would eventually have appeared as his usual MagnificentBastard self.
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[[WMG: ''Continuum'' and ''TerraNova'' take place in the same universe.]]

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[[WMG: ''Continuum'' and ''TerraNova'' ''Series/TerraNova'' take place in the same universe.]]
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[[WMG: ''Continuum'' and ''TerraNova'' take place in the same universe.]]
Kellog [[spoiler:getting sent back to... whenever the heck he got sent back to]] creates yet another crapsack alternate future. The incessant screwing around with the timeline by [[GambitPileup everybody and their mother]] creates the relatively stable time portal used to send the settlers back in time. Had ''Terra Nova'' continued, Kellog would eventually have appeared as his usual MagnificentBastard self.
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[[spoiler:Or rather, started by one version of him. It will turn out that the Freelancers consider him to be critically important not because of his inventions or the 2077 time-line that Kiera came from, but that he actually is the one referred to by their leader to make a great sacrifice to go back 1000 years in time to found their organization. One of the two Alecs will end up doing this, but it's not clear which.]]

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[[spoiler:Or Or rather, started by one version of him. It will turn out that the Freelancers consider him to be critically important not because of his inventions or the 2077 time-line that Kiera came from, but that he actually is the one referred to by their leader to make a great sacrifice to go back 1000 years in time to found their organization. One of the two Alecs will end up doing this, but it's not clear which.]]
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* Jossed.
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* Confirmed.
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[[spoiler:Alec is shown effectively handing Julian a bottomless well of money and connections to propagate anything he likes, as long as it connects back to Halo. This is what initiates the decades-long connection between Alec and Julian, and later Alec and Kagame. It also is what started him becoming TheChessmaster of time travel.]]

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[[spoiler:Alec is shown effectively handing Julian a bottomless well of money and connections to propagate anything he likes, as long as it connects back to Halo. This is what initiates the decades-long connection between Alec and Julian, and later Alec and Kagame. It also is what started him becoming TheChessmaster of time travel.]]]]

[[WMG: ''Continuum'' is a StealthPrequel to ''StarTrek''.]]
Consider the numerous [[ShoutOut shout-outs]] scattered through the series so far, as well as the repeated plot point of matter-antimatter reactions being the major clean energy source of the future. Every version of the timeline also seems to include [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact massive unrest and devastation through the mid-21st century]]. The rise of TheFederation (or some global precursor) sounds an awful lot like the [[AlternateTimeline "good future"]] that the characters are ultimately aiming for. Who knows, could a more benevolent Future!Alec be the one to fund the proliferation of interstellar FasterThanLight technology?
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* Wow, that ended up pretty spot-on, except [[spoiler:Alec ends up being the one to kill his past self]].
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* Still a possibility. [[spoiler:Kiera seems to doubt that she jailed the right one, given how Alec's behaving.]]

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* Still a possibility. [[spoiler:Kiera seems to doubt that she jailed the right one, given how Alec's behaving.]] And Kiera seems to have realized this, [[spoiler:since she takes Brad to break Alec back out.]]
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* Still a possibility. [[spoiler:Kiera seems to doubt that she jailed the right one, given how Alec's behaving.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it, along with a time traveller from an alternate 2039 in which Present!Kellog was at one time a corporate baron, but fell victim to the never-ending civil war among various factions in the GVRD and by 2039, was the leader of a faction whose last gasp was to find a TimeyWimeyBall and send Brad back to avert that catastrophe.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it, along with a time traveller from an alternate 2039 in which Present!Kellog was at one time a corporate baron, but fell victim to the never-ending civil war among various factions in the GVRD and by 2039, was the leader of a faction whose last gasp was to find a TimeyWimeyBall and send Brad back to avert that catastrophe.catastrophe; it appears that the event was precipitated by a raid on a Freelancer base in that era, and they discovered fragmentary records that pointed to Kiera Cameron as a possible focal point for the changes.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it, along with a time traveller from an alternate 2077 in which Kellog has replaced Alec.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it, along with a time traveller from an alternate 2077 2039 in which Kellog has replaced Alec.Present!Kellog was at one time a corporate baron, but fell victim to the never-ending civil war among various factions in the GVRD and by 2039, was the leader of a faction whose last gasp was to find a TimeyWimeyBall and send Brad back to avert that catastrophe.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it.it, along with a time traveller from an alternate 2077 in which Kellog has replaced Alec.]]
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* Appears to be Jossed. [[spoiler:It's the time-travelling Alec Sadler that's been locked up by the Freelancers, with Kiera's help.]]

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* Appears to be Jossed. [[spoiler:It's the time-travelling Alec Sadler that's been locked up by the Freelancers, with Kiera's help.]]

[[WMG: Alec Sadler and Liber8]]
[[spoiler:Alec is shown effectively handing Julian a bottomless well of money and connections to propagate anything he likes, as long as it connects back to Halo. This is what initiates the decades-long connection between Alec and Julian, and later Alec and Kagame. It also is what started him becoming TheChessmaster of time travel.
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* May still be a possibility with Carlos. [[spoiler:Betty's dead, but they're really playing up the evil corp bad guys this season.]]
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[[spoiler:As it turns out, ''her mother'' was part of a nonviolent citizen activist group which was accused of being part of Liber8, providing the authorities the excuse to cart them all off and throw them in jail.]] That's a history, all right.
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** She was part of the teams that arrested Kagame and Valentine.
** She provided security for a demonstration of a project Ingram was working on, where Jaworski was a test subject.

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** She was part of the teams that arrested Kagame and Valentine.
Valentine. [[spoiler:She also met them in the gleaner community without realizing it.]]
** She provided security for a demonstration of a project Ingram was working on, where Jaworski was a test subject. [[spoiler:And it also turns out she arrested Jaworski after he escaped.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Curtis Chen did it.]]
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* One of the trailers for Season 3 Episode 6 suggests that Emily definitely plans to get into Suit!Alec's face.

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* One of Appears to be Jossed. [[spoiler:It's the trailers for Season 3 Episode 6 suggests that Emily definitely plans to get into Suit!Alec's face.time-travelling Alec Sadler that's been locked up by the Freelancers, with Kiera's help.]]
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* One of the trailers for Season 3 Episode 6 suggests that Emily definitely plans to get into Suit!Alec's face.
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[[spoiler:Also, it may be possible that this has happened before in the previous time-line that led to 2077, only in that version Kiera chose to kill the other Alec so she could have a chance of getting home. Kagame's bombing and Future!Alec's foreknowledge of some of Liber8's activities does suggest that a previous loop of some sort may have happened before, only this time Alec added more contingency plans to make sure the right version of him is eliminated. If Kiera still can't do it, Garza can, because we still don't know the extent of what Future!Alec told her to do.]]

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[[spoiler:Also, it may be possible that this has happened before in the previous time-line that led to 2077, only in that version Kiera chose to kill the other Alec so she could have a chance of getting home. Kagame's bombing and Future!Alec's foreknowledge of some of Liber8's activities does suggest that a previous loop of some sort may have happened before, only this time Alec added more contingency plans to make sure the right version of him is eliminated. If Kiera still can't do it, Garza can, because we still don't know the extent of what Future!Alec told her to do.]]
*[[spoiler:Other thought that crosses this troper's mind; Time-Travelling!Alec might get Emily to do it. Or of course, she might do it off her own bat, what with her knowing about both, having chosen to side with one of them (the two Alec's having apparently ruled out being friends), and having her wondrous propensity for deadly force.
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* Partly confirmed. [[spoiler:Kiera does indeed "team up" with the Freelancers, but Betty is now a reverse mole against Liber8 since Carlos busted her for spying.]]

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