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** The "why they couldn't contact Prue was eventually explained in the S8 comics: [[spoiler: Prue basically escaped Heaven and took the body of a girl without cerebral activity.]]
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* {{Jossed}} by the comics. Andy and Prue are TogetherInDeath. [[spoiler:Eventually.]]
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** She became, as the episode title says, “a primrose” empath. This means a false or “fool’s gold” type thing. As Piper says in the episode, “this power was never meant for you”. Oh, and Cole directed her to the demon who gave her the power.
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** She became, as the episode title says, “a primrose” empath. This means a false or “fool’s gold” type thing. As Piper says in the episode, “this power was never meant for you”. Oh, and Cole directed her to the demon who gave her the power.
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Except that’s a pretty delayed reaction, right? She’s fine after Grams’ death for years, and as for her reaction to Prue’s death, well, yes “losing a sister” was her worst fear, but there’s nothing directly following.
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The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the Source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
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The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences experiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, Andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the Source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
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* Well Prue did become an Empath for episode, and combined with the Power of Three, she could have possibly had an imprint of the entire world left in her spirit and with this, her spirit could have had enough time to contemplate what her sisters really needed. She possibly even is the reason Cole learned to want Phoebe to just be happy.
This WMG is pretty much similar to mine except the Tribunal were the ones who created the Cleaners ''because'' of the AHBL incident. But "Been active forever, only existed for a few years" thing is the same.
This WMG is pretty much similar to mine except the Tribunal were the ones who created the Cleaners ''because'' of the AHBL incident. But "Been active forever, only existed for a few years" thing is the same.
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* Well Prue did become an Empath for an episode, and combined with the Power of Three, she could have possibly had an imprint of the entire world left in her spirit and with this, her spirit could have had enough time to contemplate what her sisters really needed. She possibly even is the reason Cole learned to want Phoebe to just be happy.
This WMG is pretty much similar to mine except the Tribunal were the ones who created the Cleaners ''because'' of the AHBL incident. But "Been active forever, only existed for a few years" thing is the same.
**She became, as the episode title says, “a primrose” empath. This means a false or “fool’s gold” type thing. As Piper says in the episode, “this power was never meant for you”. Oh, and Cole directed her to the demon who gave her the power.
This WMG is pretty much similar to mine except the Tribunal were the ones who created the Cleaners ''because'' of the AHBL incident. But "Been active forever, only existed for a few years" thing is the same.
**She became, as the episode title says, “a primrose” empath. This means a false or “fool’s gold” type thing. As Piper says in the episode, “this power was never meant for you”. Oh, and Cole directed her to the demon who gave her the power.
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[[WMG: Future!Chris is Prue’s next life. And Bianca the Phoenix is Andy Trudeau’s next life.]]
Based mainly on the Chris-Crossed scene where Bianca is thrown into furniture and impaled, dying, as Andy was, and Bianca tearfully smiling and saying, as Future!Chris comforts her desperately, “Haven’t we been here before?”
Based mainly on the Chris-Crossed scene where Bianca is thrown into furniture and impaled, dying, as Andy was, and Bianca tearfully smiling and saying, as Future!Chris comforts her desperately, “Haven’t we been here before?”
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The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
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The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the source, Source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
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* The human grief and regret over what she felt she was driven to do — permanently strip the Charmed Ones of their powers — when she had been shown to be so proud of them and of her own indirect role in bringing them into the world in “That ‘70s Episode” seems to me like it could be enough. Plus, the “high-strungness” of a telekinetic witch… heart trouble is probably a consequence if they survive into late middle age.
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This theory was somewhat confirmed by one plot point of either a season 6 or 7 episode which had [[WonderWoman Wonder Womans]] girdle. Actually Hippolyta's girdle which was found by Billie in a chest of previously [[ForgottenPhlebotinum unknown magical artifacts]] and in a short bit of {{Exposition}} Hippolyta's youngest daughter (aka Donna Troy/Wonder Girl in the comics) tried to wear the girdle but was destroyed by its beyond awesome level of magic. Billie tries on the girdle herself and nearly dies herself.
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This theory was somewhat confirmed by one plot point of either a season 6 or 7 episode which had [[WonderWoman Wonder Womans]] Franchise/WonderWoman's girdle. Actually Hippolyta's girdle which was found by Billie in a chest of previously [[ForgottenPhlebotinum unknown magical artifacts]] and in a short bit of {{Exposition}} Hippolyta's youngest daughter (aka Donna Troy/Wonder Girl in the comics) tried to wear the girdle but was destroyed by its beyond awesome level of magic. Billie tries on the girdle herself and nearly dies herself.
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[[WMG: Phoebe became more of a {{Jerkass}} in the later seasons because she couldn't get over the deaths of [[CynicismCatalyst Grams and Prue]]]]
[[WMG: Grownup!Chris from the current timeline has the memories of the previous (bad)timeline, including when Chris went back in time.]]
The time we see Future Chris in the series finale, he is with future Wyatt. He recognizes Grams where Wyatt doesn't and calls Phoebe 'Pheobe' instead of Aunt Pheobe. He also is better at 'future consequences' then his brother, as seen in the episode and the expanded universe novels. When the adult Chris of the bad future faded away he ended up merging with the Chris of the current future.
* There is some evidence towards this in the same episode, and others, but specifically that episode where we see Piper join up with her present self and retain her memories.
[[WMG: Billie was born from the Nexus being destroyed.]]
Billie is a reality warper and has all sorts of powers despite her young age. She also appeared out of nowhere at the beginning of the eighth season. She could have been born from the Nexus energies and used Prue as a basis to get close to the sisters. She might have also created a connection with Paige to become her charge. Billie then created a past for herself so that she would connect to humanity easier. After being exposed to the sisters and feeling angry at their selfish ways, she subconsciously created Christy and even manipulated demons to think that they had held her captive for years.
* This actually makes tons of sense to me, since they was absolutely no in-verse reason why the so-called Ultimate Power went unmentioned by anyone before they showed up (because they didn't exist before they showed up). Thanks for the new {{Fanon}}.
* Unfortunately, there's also the part where this reeks of RonTheDeathEater, especially since the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue and the revival comics depict her as merely a capable witch and a friend to the Charmed Ones, with ever her "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] reality" power never really emphasized again.
** Well, the Charmed ones were knocked down a peg with Prue's death until Paige reunited with them, perhaps killing her sister took her down several pegs.
*** Her sister who, according to this, was subconsciously created by her. On one hand: "I have the power by myself to literally create a whole person just by thinking about them." On the other hand: "If that person dies I can't do much to reality anymore."
* Or alternatively Nexus didn't create Billie and Christy but possessed them, making everyone think they had this power all along.
[[WMG: Charmed takes place in the "Ultimate" style universe of ''Series/{{Smallville}}'']]
This theory was somewhat confirmed by one plot point of either a season 6 or 7 episode which had [[WonderWoman Wonder Womans]] girdle. Actually Hippolyta's girdle which was found by Billie in a chest of previously [[ForgottenPhlebotinum unknown magical artifacts]] and in a short bit of {{Exposition}} Hippolyta's youngest daughter (aka Donna Troy/Wonder Girl in the comics) tried to wear the girdle but was destroyed by its beyond awesome level of magic. Billie tries on the girdle herself and nearly dies herself.
To boot the costume generated by the Girdle as Billie puts it on looks suspiciously similar to a image from a 2005 or 6 Wizard Magazine issue which has a AlternateUniverse Wonder Girl costume which according to the related article came from a "Ultimate" Creator/DCComics universe which was an offshoot of TV series Smallville.
And as a final nail to the foundation both Smallville and Charmed were CW/WB network series which while it never happened a {{Crossover}} could have been a possibility although this would have been HilariousInHindsight as Clark would have most likely become the designated DamselInDistress due to his physical weakness to magic in which the Halliwell sisters would have to bail him out of constantly.
[[WMG: The Triad has Cole's father's soul because they wanted to stop him from being reborn.]]
Reincarnation is mentioned frequently in the series. Phoebe also says that Cole's father had done a lot of good things when he was alive. The Triad (or the Source, or some other demon) could have intercepted his soul after he died to prevent him from either becoming a Whitelighter or being reborn and doing more good in the world. Cole could have made his deal with the Triad so he could release his father's soul.
[[WMG: ''Charmed'' is the imaginary adventures of three girls playing with their Barbie dolls.]]
This is why so many of the Charmed Ones's crushes and love interests are [[LanternJawofJustice lantern-jawed]] white guys - they're Ken dolls.
[[WMG: Prue was destined to die from the start by the Elders]]
The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
* It wasn't the Elders that destined Leo to die, though. This kind of thing is above their heads. We're talking Angels of Destiny level stuff right here, we've seen in canon through Leo's case that this is their department. Why else is it that Grams can visit the sisters as a ghost after a year and a half, but even after all the years that go by, they still ''never get to see or even hear from Prue''? The Elders and the Avatars have been defied by the sisters before for trying to play God with their personal lives, so there's no way either of those two groups could be behind this.
** Oh yeah, trufax...so it was the Angels of Destiny then?
*** Bingo.
** The "why they couldn't contact Prue was eventually explained in the S8 comics: [[spoiler: Prue basically escaped Heaven and took the body of a girl without cerebral activity.]]
[[WMG: The Smexy Genie from the S2 finale was at least partially responsible for Prue's final death in S3]]
Think about it: Genie wishes are notorious for being complete [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor monkey paws]] (even when the genie isn't trying to be a jerk) and this is demonstrated throughout the episode multiple times. Hence wouldn't it be logical, even natural, for her resurrection wish to also backfire, say, by only granting Prue temporary resurrection before being killed off again in, say, the next season finale? This would explain why [[InSpiteOfANail she couldn't be saved from Shax even by time travel]] and why Death told her she was destined to die then.
[[WMG: The Sisters Don't Do ''Ritual'' Spellcasting Because They Don't Need To]]
The in-verse reason the sisters gradually become less dependent on ritual (like we saw for most of the Burge era) is because - being the most powerful witches ever to exist - they are strongly magical enough not to need to build up ritual energy to cast spells. Likewise, as the series progresses they become stronger and stronger witches and so by the end all they need is a quick rhyme and they're good to go! Compared to the first episode for example, "Something Wicca This Way Comes", which was relatively very ritual heavy (in fact, despite being new witches, they probably didn't even need to do as much as they did & were most likely being - understandably - overly cautious). Other normal, magical witches would probably have to go through a relatively complicated series of processes to achieve some of the feats the sisters have with just some hocus pocus, like casting an illusion on ''every man on the planet'' in "Styx Feet Under".
* So basically, the premise of Literature/YoungWizards.
[[WMG: The Elders and/or Angel of Destiny killed Grams]]
Pretty self-explanatory - we saw in ''Pre-witched'' that she was about to stop the sisters from inheriting their powers before she just so happened to have a heart attack. Coincidence? I think not.
[[WMG: The Elders can only bring someone back from the dead (as whitelighters) once, [[CameBackWrong or else]]]]
Hey, it would explain why Natalie had to die (other than angst, obviously).
* What about Sam?
** It was his CruelAndUnusualPunishment. The Elders reinstated him rather than let him spend his afterlife with Patty.
** With Sam, it's actually because he found the loophole. He died, became a whitelighter, clipped his wings and became human again, lived and died again, and was made a whitelighter. Natalie and the other whitelighters who died on the show died as whitelighters via darklighter arrows (or Titan magic).
[[WMG: Prue created the Cleaners.]]
The Cleaners have not done anything until they first showed up and they have the power to alter memories. Prue could have been worried that exposure of magic is much easier now with all the technology and so she got the Elders and the Demons to create the Cleaners. But, to give the Cleaners more credit, they made it so that they were at least active for eternity when in reality, they were around for only a few years.
* Alright, going by this combined with the Angels of Destiny theory surrounded her death…just what exactly ''is'' Prue now? I mean, she can't be {{God}}; the season 8 Angel of Destiny has hinted at God running/being the Grand Design itself.
** Prue's story is continued in the comics.
* Well Prue did become an Empath for episode, and combined with the Power of Three, she could have possibly had an imprint of the entire world left in her spirit and with this, her spirit could have had enough time to contemplate what her sisters really needed. She possibly even is the reason Cole learned to want Phoebe to just be happy.
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* The Tribunal is made up of Elders and Demons, so this is basically the exact same thing.
[[WMG: Andy became a whitelighter.]]
Leo's first wife told Piper that he dreamt about Leo after his death. Kyle also said goodbye to Paige. The scene where Andy says goodbye to Prue is eerily similar to the situation described by Leo's first wife.
[[WMG: Higher forces were responsible for Piper and Phoebe's career successes.]]
Because the forces of good wanted to make sure they had enough money to keep the house.
[[WMG: Coop, or some other Cupid, was responsible for Phoebe's relationship with Cole being a failure.]]
After the Source was gone, everything would have worked out fine if Phoebe had been willing to use the resurrection spell so Cole didn't have to gather demonic powers, or if they had been able to strip his powers without empowering some other demon, or just if Phoebe hadn't [[TookALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]]. We've seen that Cupid rings can be used to not only encourage someone to enter a relationship, but also to steer them away from relationships. We also know that at least one Cupid turned a mortal woman's love away from a demon (Drazi) and towards someone else. Phoebe suddenly hating Cole in Season 5 was the result of a Cupid who thought her being involved with a man who had previously been the Source was a very bad idea, who kept entering Phoebe's mind and hissing "He's evil, he'll always be evil, tell him to leave you alone!" everytime she saw him. Coop might have had his eye on Phoebe long before he met her and orchestrated her entire rejection of Cole in an effort to MurderTheHypotenuse.
[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/WinxClub The Trix]] are the [[EvilTwin Evil Twins]] of the Charmed Ones]]
More accurately, Icy is Piper's EvilTwin (both freeze things), Stormy is Prue's but lost primogeniture to Icy and telekynesis to Darcy in two separate bets and had to recycle herself, and Darcy is Phoebe's EvilTwin (her original power being setting things on fire in such a way that nobody, not even Bloom, can put it off without fairy dust, but using telekynesis to brag she's smarter than the older sister).
[[WMG: At some point in the future, at least one of the Charmed Ones screws up big time...]]
...And it results in electricity around the world just disappearing. In other words, the Charmed Ones cause the events of ''Series/{{Revolution}}'' by misuse of their magic. Nice job breaking it, heroes.
* So, Department of Defense {{nanomachines}} replicated out of control because of misused magic? Makes sense, I guess.
[[WMG: Phoebe's boss/friend Elise and Aviva's aunt Jackie from "The Fourth Sister" are one and the same.]]
First off, they're both played by the same actress, Rebecca Balding. That's where the theory starts. Secondly, the only Halliwell that ever saw and talked to Aunt Jackie in "The Fourth Sister" is Prue. Elise and the Bay Mirror first appear in Season 4. After Prue got on the bus called "Dead". This in turn means any retcon to this effect would not breach continuity.
Now for the evidence that makes this actually plausible. Look at Elise. She's the typical example of a woman who sacrifices her personal life for the sake of her career and goes on to regret it years later—and this is established canon, as she ''openly tells Phoebe this'' at one point imploring her not to repeat her own mistake. In fact, no family is ever mentioned when it comes to Elise aside from her ex-husband who was apparently a schmuck—not even in the Charmed Comics. Now look back at "The Fourth Sister". Jackie is completely alone. The only person there to keep her company is Aviva, and it's clear that this is only because she's taking care of the girl until her mother gets better, and that Aviva hates her guts, and that she doesn't even understand why. She also refuses to call her mother when Aviva gets upset. From that, one can only assume she's more used to keeping distance in her relationship with her family than Aviva is at the time of the episode, and Aviva does not like this—which only makes the [[MonsterOfTheWeek sorceress Kali]]'s attempts to [[MoreThanMindControl influence Aviva]] that much easier.
If, by the unlikely chance, an [[SheIsAllGrownUp all-grown-up]] Aviva ever resurfaces in the comics, expect at least some allusion to this if not a full confirmation. If this is fully confirmed, expect to learn that one of the two names, Jackie or Elise, is probably her middle name. Most likely Elise, as it's more common for family to use first names with someone who goes by middle name in public than the other way around. If Aviva's mother aka Jackie/Elise's sister appears as well, she may look similar to Alberta Watson, the Canadian actress who plays a character named Madeline in both ''Film/{{Nikita}}'' [[Series/LaFemmeNikita television]] [[Series/{{Nikita}} remakes]].
[[WMG: Cole [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning planned both of his deaths]].]]
Cole wanted to die both times: The first time, he left a note for Phoebe to find after he was dead (indicating prior planning), and even had a back-up plan to return to life as a human (the resurrection spell). When that didn't work, he gained more power than ever and was still able to return. Clearly, after Phoebe vanquished the wizard who could have taken the Source's powers, Cole knew that the only way to get rid of them was was to goad the sisters into vanquishing him.
And in the fifth season, notice that he was using the same tactic in "Sam, I am," making himself look like the guilty party to get the sisters to vanquish him. There were two hitches in his plan though: Phoebe [[CruelMercy denied him the death he desired,]] and he'd grown too powerful to be destroyed by the Power of Three, anyway. He didn't turn evil, like everyone thought, but continued in his plan to trick them into vanquishing him. His plans against them were all designed to fail, and get the sisters angry enough to find a way to kill him. When they didn't, he became an Avatar specifically to alter reality enough to cause his own death.
The second time he was vanquished, everyone thought he was gone, or at least trapped for all eternity. But reality, Cole gained more out of entering the Cosmic Void than anything else: he can still influence the world, he's no longer suffering the burden of evil influence from his powers, he's finally been able to get over the pain of Phoebe leaving him, and he can now do what he always wanted-to be good. The comics continuation even indicates that he's on the road to finally gaining the redemption that he'd always sought but always been denied. The sisters gave Cole what he'd wanted all along, they just didn't realize it.
* While the Source was the one in control, Cole was FightingFromTheInside the whole time (e.g. sabotaging the Source's plan to get rid of Paige). Even during the final fight he was clearly holding back. So yeah, him wanting to die the first time makes sense.
[[WMG: {{Professional wrestl|ing}}er Wrestling/WadeBarrett knows someone from ''Charmed''.]]
Was once leader of a stable known as Wrestling/TheNexus and had a FinishingMove he called the Wasteland. Could he be telling us something…?
[[WMG: The Victor portrayed by Tony Denison in season 1 was the result of a demonic illusion.]]
The illusion worked on a memory-level affecting both Victor himself and everyone else who saw and/or remembered him at the time, to where they all envisioned his look and demeanor being a certain way. It was cast shortly after Grams died in anticipation of his initial return and simply wore off undiscovered by the time he returned again, which is why this never gets addressed with James Read's recast version of the character.
What better way to keep the Charmed Ones separated from their father, thus keeping him from becoming a positive influence on his daughters as they grow into their magic and suffer through the supernatural war of good and evil, than by letting them see and "remember" him as an Wrestling/EricBischoff-esque slick and shady businessman, subconsciously playing right into their, specifically Prue's, distrust and resentment towards him for leaving in the first place?
[[WMG: The Charmed Ones were the real targets for Shax to kill in All Hell Breaks Loose]]
In the Book of Shadows, Shax is described as the Source's personal assassin, who is only called for top assignments. Sending Shax to kill a normal mortal doctor seems like an overkill for a demon of that stature. However, the Charmed Ones would be considered high profile targets, and since they have to defend an innocent as well, all the better to increase the chances of success. The Source could somehow sent Phoebe a false premonition in order to get the Charmed Ones involved, ensuring they would be in conflict with the demon.
[[WMG: Only the Prue from the future was planning on saving Phoebe in 'Morality Bites']]
When Piper and Prue arrive in the future, Piper is still living in the manor but the Book of Shadows is being kept at Bucklands but no one there recognized Piper, even though the Book was full of new spells and potions meant to break in to the prison, reach Phoebe, and get her to safety. This means either that the spells where prepared and then the book was moved recently (which is unlikely given that it would be hard to move with the witch hunts going on) or Prue was working on the plan on her own without Piper's help.
[[WMG: Grownup!Chris from the current timeline has the memories of the previous (bad)timeline, including when Chris went back in time.]]
The time we see Future Chris in the series finale, he is with future Wyatt. He recognizes Grams where Wyatt doesn't and calls Phoebe 'Pheobe' instead of Aunt Pheobe. He also is better at 'future consequences' then his brother, as seen in the episode and the expanded universe novels. When the adult Chris of the bad future faded away he ended up merging with the Chris of the current future.
* There is some evidence towards this in the same episode, and others, but specifically that episode where we see Piper join up with her present self and retain her memories.
[[WMG: Billie was born from the Nexus being destroyed.]]
Billie is a reality warper and has all sorts of powers despite her young age. She also appeared out of nowhere at the beginning of the eighth season. She could have been born from the Nexus energies and used Prue as a basis to get close to the sisters. She might have also created a connection with Paige to become her charge. Billie then created a past for herself so that she would connect to humanity easier. After being exposed to the sisters and feeling angry at their selfish ways, she subconsciously created Christy and even manipulated demons to think that they had held her captive for years.
* This actually makes tons of sense to me, since they was absolutely no in-verse reason why the so-called Ultimate Power went unmentioned by anyone before they showed up (because they didn't exist before they showed up). Thanks for the new {{Fanon}}.
* Unfortunately, there's also the part where this reeks of RonTheDeathEater, especially since the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue and the revival comics depict her as merely a capable witch and a friend to the Charmed Ones, with ever her "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] reality" power never really emphasized again.
** Well, the Charmed ones were knocked down a peg with Prue's death until Paige reunited with them, perhaps killing her sister took her down several pegs.
*** Her sister who, according to this, was subconsciously created by her. On one hand: "I have the power by myself to literally create a whole person just by thinking about them." On the other hand: "If that person dies I can't do much to reality anymore."
* Or alternatively Nexus didn't create Billie and Christy but possessed them, making everyone think they had this power all along.
[[WMG: Charmed takes place in the "Ultimate" style universe of ''Series/{{Smallville}}'']]
This theory was somewhat confirmed by one plot point of either a season 6 or 7 episode which had [[WonderWoman Wonder Womans]] girdle. Actually Hippolyta's girdle which was found by Billie in a chest of previously [[ForgottenPhlebotinum unknown magical artifacts]] and in a short bit of {{Exposition}} Hippolyta's youngest daughter (aka Donna Troy/Wonder Girl in the comics) tried to wear the girdle but was destroyed by its beyond awesome level of magic. Billie tries on the girdle herself and nearly dies herself.
To boot the costume generated by the Girdle as Billie puts it on looks suspiciously similar to a image from a 2005 or 6 Wizard Magazine issue which has a AlternateUniverse Wonder Girl costume which according to the related article came from a "Ultimate" Creator/DCComics universe which was an offshoot of TV series Smallville.
And as a final nail to the foundation both Smallville and Charmed were CW/WB network series which while it never happened a {{Crossover}} could have been a possibility although this would have been HilariousInHindsight as Clark would have most likely become the designated DamselInDistress due to his physical weakness to magic in which the Halliwell sisters would have to bail him out of constantly.
[[WMG: The Triad has Cole's father's soul because they wanted to stop him from being reborn.]]
Reincarnation is mentioned frequently in the series. Phoebe also says that Cole's father had done a lot of good things when he was alive. The Triad (or the Source, or some other demon) could have intercepted his soul after he died to prevent him from either becoming a Whitelighter or being reborn and doing more good in the world. Cole could have made his deal with the Triad so he could release his father's soul.
[[WMG: ''Charmed'' is the imaginary adventures of three girls playing with their Barbie dolls.]]
This is why so many of the Charmed Ones's crushes and love interests are [[LanternJawofJustice lantern-jawed]] white guys - they're Ken dolls.
[[WMG: Prue was destined to die from the start by the Elders]]
The Angel of Death basically tells her she's destined to die in S3, which seems odd in retrospect (why would a Charmed One be destined to die from The Powers That Be?) but less so if you consider the following: Piper and Leo already showed in Styx Feet Under, S8, that cheating death is impossible; if he's really out for you, its only a matter of time. Prue had a really sharp concentration of near death expeiences in her tenure, nearly dying in The Power of Two but before being given CPR by andy, to the S2 finale (where she's stabbed by the dragon and then rezzed, something which this troper imagines would also further p*ss Death off, further giving him cause to go after her) to the S3 finale (where Leo first heals her) and then finally in S3 again where Death finally catches her. Just as in S8, Prue may have been slated for death so that the bereavement would act as a motivator for the sisters to kill the source, which it did, as they planned for Leo.
* It wasn't the Elders that destined Leo to die, though. This kind of thing is above their heads. We're talking Angels of Destiny level stuff right here, we've seen in canon through Leo's case that this is their department. Why else is it that Grams can visit the sisters as a ghost after a year and a half, but even after all the years that go by, they still ''never get to see or even hear from Prue''? The Elders and the Avatars have been defied by the sisters before for trying to play God with their personal lives, so there's no way either of those two groups could be behind this.
** Oh yeah, trufax...so it was the Angels of Destiny then?
*** Bingo.
** The "why they couldn't contact Prue was eventually explained in the S8 comics: [[spoiler: Prue basically escaped Heaven and took the body of a girl without cerebral activity.]]
[[WMG: The Smexy Genie from the S2 finale was at least partially responsible for Prue's final death in S3]]
Think about it: Genie wishes are notorious for being complete [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor monkey paws]] (even when the genie isn't trying to be a jerk) and this is demonstrated throughout the episode multiple times. Hence wouldn't it be logical, even natural, for her resurrection wish to also backfire, say, by only granting Prue temporary resurrection before being killed off again in, say, the next season finale? This would explain why [[InSpiteOfANail she couldn't be saved from Shax even by time travel]] and why Death told her she was destined to die then.
[[WMG: The Sisters Don't Do ''Ritual'' Spellcasting Because They Don't Need To]]
The in-verse reason the sisters gradually become less dependent on ritual (like we saw for most of the Burge era) is because - being the most powerful witches ever to exist - they are strongly magical enough not to need to build up ritual energy to cast spells. Likewise, as the series progresses they become stronger and stronger witches and so by the end all they need is a quick rhyme and they're good to go! Compared to the first episode for example, "Something Wicca This Way Comes", which was relatively very ritual heavy (in fact, despite being new witches, they probably didn't even need to do as much as they did & were most likely being - understandably - overly cautious). Other normal, magical witches would probably have to go through a relatively complicated series of processes to achieve some of the feats the sisters have with just some hocus pocus, like casting an illusion on ''every man on the planet'' in "Styx Feet Under".
* So basically, the premise of Literature/YoungWizards.
[[WMG: The Elders and/or Angel of Destiny killed Grams]]
Pretty self-explanatory - we saw in ''Pre-witched'' that she was about to stop the sisters from inheriting their powers before she just so happened to have a heart attack. Coincidence? I think not.
[[WMG: The Elders can only bring someone back from the dead (as whitelighters) once, [[CameBackWrong or else]]]]
Hey, it would explain why Natalie had to die (other than angst, obviously).
* What about Sam?
** It was his CruelAndUnusualPunishment. The Elders reinstated him rather than let him spend his afterlife with Patty.
** With Sam, it's actually because he found the loophole. He died, became a whitelighter, clipped his wings and became human again, lived and died again, and was made a whitelighter. Natalie and the other whitelighters who died on the show died as whitelighters via darklighter arrows (or Titan magic).
[[WMG: Prue created the Cleaners.]]
The Cleaners have not done anything until they first showed up and they have the power to alter memories. Prue could have been worried that exposure of magic is much easier now with all the technology and so she got the Elders and the Demons to create the Cleaners. But, to give the Cleaners more credit, they made it so that they were at least active for eternity when in reality, they were around for only a few years.
* Alright, going by this combined with the Angels of Destiny theory surrounded her death…just what exactly ''is'' Prue now? I mean, she can't be {{God}}; the season 8 Angel of Destiny has hinted at God running/being the Grand Design itself.
** Prue's story is continued in the comics.
* Well Prue did become an Empath for episode, and combined with the Power of Three, she could have possibly had an imprint of the entire world left in her spirit and with this, her spirit could have had enough time to contemplate what her sisters really needed. She possibly even is the reason Cole learned to want Phoebe to just be happy.
This WMG is pretty much similar to mine except the Tribunal were the ones who created the Cleaners ''because'' of the AHBL incident. But "Been active forever, only existed for a few years" thing is the same.
* The Tribunal is made up of Elders and Demons, so this is basically the exact same thing.
[[WMG: Andy became a whitelighter.]]
Leo's first wife told Piper that he dreamt about Leo after his death. Kyle also said goodbye to Paige. The scene where Andy says goodbye to Prue is eerily similar to the situation described by Leo's first wife.
[[WMG: Higher forces were responsible for Piper and Phoebe's career successes.]]
Because the forces of good wanted to make sure they had enough money to keep the house.
[[WMG: Coop, or some other Cupid, was responsible for Phoebe's relationship with Cole being a failure.]]
After the Source was gone, everything would have worked out fine if Phoebe had been willing to use the resurrection spell so Cole didn't have to gather demonic powers, or if they had been able to strip his powers without empowering some other demon, or just if Phoebe hadn't [[TookALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]]. We've seen that Cupid rings can be used to not only encourage someone to enter a relationship, but also to steer them away from relationships. We also know that at least one Cupid turned a mortal woman's love away from a demon (Drazi) and towards someone else. Phoebe suddenly hating Cole in Season 5 was the result of a Cupid who thought her being involved with a man who had previously been the Source was a very bad idea, who kept entering Phoebe's mind and hissing "He's evil, he'll always be evil, tell him to leave you alone!" everytime she saw him. Coop might have had his eye on Phoebe long before he met her and orchestrated her entire rejection of Cole in an effort to MurderTheHypotenuse.
[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/WinxClub The Trix]] are the [[EvilTwin Evil Twins]] of the Charmed Ones]]
More accurately, Icy is Piper's EvilTwin (both freeze things), Stormy is Prue's but lost primogeniture to Icy and telekynesis to Darcy in two separate bets and had to recycle herself, and Darcy is Phoebe's EvilTwin (her original power being setting things on fire in such a way that nobody, not even Bloom, can put it off without fairy dust, but using telekynesis to brag she's smarter than the older sister).
[[WMG: At some point in the future, at least one of the Charmed Ones screws up big time...]]
...And it results in electricity around the world just disappearing. In other words, the Charmed Ones cause the events of ''Series/{{Revolution}}'' by misuse of their magic. Nice job breaking it, heroes.
* So, Department of Defense {{nanomachines}} replicated out of control because of misused magic? Makes sense, I guess.
[[WMG: Phoebe's boss/friend Elise and Aviva's aunt Jackie from "The Fourth Sister" are one and the same.]]
First off, they're both played by the same actress, Rebecca Balding. That's where the theory starts. Secondly, the only Halliwell that ever saw and talked to Aunt Jackie in "The Fourth Sister" is Prue. Elise and the Bay Mirror first appear in Season 4. After Prue got on the bus called "Dead". This in turn means any retcon to this effect would not breach continuity.
Now for the evidence that makes this actually plausible. Look at Elise. She's the typical example of a woman who sacrifices her personal life for the sake of her career and goes on to regret it years later—and this is established canon, as she ''openly tells Phoebe this'' at one point imploring her not to repeat her own mistake. In fact, no family is ever mentioned when it comes to Elise aside from her ex-husband who was apparently a schmuck—not even in the Charmed Comics. Now look back at "The Fourth Sister". Jackie is completely alone. The only person there to keep her company is Aviva, and it's clear that this is only because she's taking care of the girl until her mother gets better, and that Aviva hates her guts, and that she doesn't even understand why. She also refuses to call her mother when Aviva gets upset. From that, one can only assume she's more used to keeping distance in her relationship with her family than Aviva is at the time of the episode, and Aviva does not like this—which only makes the [[MonsterOfTheWeek sorceress Kali]]'s attempts to [[MoreThanMindControl influence Aviva]] that much easier.
If, by the unlikely chance, an [[SheIsAllGrownUp all-grown-up]] Aviva ever resurfaces in the comics, expect at least some allusion to this if not a full confirmation. If this is fully confirmed, expect to learn that one of the two names, Jackie or Elise, is probably her middle name. Most likely Elise, as it's more common for family to use first names with someone who goes by middle name in public than the other way around. If Aviva's mother aka Jackie/Elise's sister appears as well, she may look similar to Alberta Watson, the Canadian actress who plays a character named Madeline in both ''Film/{{Nikita}}'' [[Series/LaFemmeNikita television]] [[Series/{{Nikita}} remakes]].
[[WMG: Cole [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning planned both of his deaths]].]]
Cole wanted to die both times: The first time, he left a note for Phoebe to find after he was dead (indicating prior planning), and even had a back-up plan to return to life as a human (the resurrection spell). When that didn't work, he gained more power than ever and was still able to return. Clearly, after Phoebe vanquished the wizard who could have taken the Source's powers, Cole knew that the only way to get rid of them was was to goad the sisters into vanquishing him.
And in the fifth season, notice that he was using the same tactic in "Sam, I am," making himself look like the guilty party to get the sisters to vanquish him. There were two hitches in his plan though: Phoebe [[CruelMercy denied him the death he desired,]] and he'd grown too powerful to be destroyed by the Power of Three, anyway. He didn't turn evil, like everyone thought, but continued in his plan to trick them into vanquishing him. His plans against them were all designed to fail, and get the sisters angry enough to find a way to kill him. When they didn't, he became an Avatar specifically to alter reality enough to cause his own death.
The second time he was vanquished, everyone thought he was gone, or at least trapped for all eternity. But reality, Cole gained more out of entering the Cosmic Void than anything else: he can still influence the world, he's no longer suffering the burden of evil influence from his powers, he's finally been able to get over the pain of Phoebe leaving him, and he can now do what he always wanted-to be good. The comics continuation even indicates that he's on the road to finally gaining the redemption that he'd always sought but always been denied. The sisters gave Cole what he'd wanted all along, they just didn't realize it.
* While the Source was the one in control, Cole was FightingFromTheInside the whole time (e.g. sabotaging the Source's plan to get rid of Paige). Even during the final fight he was clearly holding back. So yeah, him wanting to die the first time makes sense.
[[WMG: {{Professional wrestl|ing}}er Wrestling/WadeBarrett knows someone from ''Charmed''.]]
Was once leader of a stable known as Wrestling/TheNexus and had a FinishingMove he called the Wasteland. Could he be telling us something…?
[[WMG: The Victor portrayed by Tony Denison in season 1 was the result of a demonic illusion.]]
The illusion worked on a memory-level affecting both Victor himself and everyone else who saw and/or remembered him at the time, to where they all envisioned his look and demeanor being a certain way. It was cast shortly after Grams died in anticipation of his initial return and simply wore off undiscovered by the time he returned again, which is why this never gets addressed with James Read's recast version of the character.
What better way to keep the Charmed Ones separated from their father, thus keeping him from becoming a positive influence on his daughters as they grow into their magic and suffer through the supernatural war of good and evil, than by letting them see and "remember" him as an Wrestling/EricBischoff-esque slick and shady businessman, subconsciously playing right into their, specifically Prue's, distrust and resentment towards him for leaving in the first place?
[[WMG: The Charmed Ones were the real targets for Shax to kill in All Hell Breaks Loose]]
In the Book of Shadows, Shax is described as the Source's personal assassin, who is only called for top assignments. Sending Shax to kill a normal mortal doctor seems like an overkill for a demon of that stature. However, the Charmed Ones would be considered high profile targets, and since they have to defend an innocent as well, all the better to increase the chances of success. The Source could somehow sent Phoebe a false premonition in order to get the Charmed Ones involved, ensuring they would be in conflict with the demon.
[[WMG: Only the Prue from the future was planning on saving Phoebe in 'Morality Bites']]
When Piper and Prue arrive in the future, Piper is still living in the manor but the Book of Shadows is being kept at Bucklands but no one there recognized Piper, even though the Book was full of new spells and potions meant to break in to the prison, reach Phoebe, and get her to safety. This means either that the spells where prepared and then the book was moved recently (which is unlikely given that it would be hard to move with the witch hunts going on) or Prue was working on the plan on her own without Piper's help.
