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Or maybe grandmother, depending on how Marvel's particular take on ComicBookTime works. Let's see, snarky EvilRedhead KnifeNut DarkActionGirl who dresses in red and black, with a connection to the Nazis and little enough regard for collateral damage... Are we talking about Rayne or Sin? They're enough alike that they could be sisters, in both appearance, personality, costume, choice of weapons and even ''haircut''; in fact, the only obvious difference between them would be that Sin is not a vampire, and so can't be quite as over-the-top as Rayne. The settings also fit together, since Marvel has both vampires and Nazis in all flavors, and Rayne and the Red Skull won't ''necessarily'' hate each other. It's obvious from their behavior that the GG-Gruppe Rayne fought in her game was some kind of rogue splinter faction of the Nazis (which would also explain [[NoSwastikas why they used the triskelion as their symbol instead of the swastika]]), kind of like HYDRA in the ''First Avenger'' movie. She doesn't hate them because they're Nazis, but because they're insane cultist nuts trying to [[TooDumbToLive conjure the literal Devil]]. For his part, the Skull, being a [[UndyingLoyalty particularly devoted]] Nazi loyalist in the comics, wouldn't mind it if his girlfriend massacred a bunch of demented fake-Nazi posers who tried to destroy the world in some occult ritual -- indeed, he'd probably be grateful to her for saving him the trouble of doing it himself.
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Or maybe grandmother, depending on how Marvel's particular take on ComicBookTime works. Let's see, snarky EvilRedhead KnifeNut DarkActionGirl who dresses in red and black, with a connection to the Nazis and little enough regard for collateral damage... Are we talking about Rayne or Sin? They're enough alike that they could be sisters, in both appearance, personality, costume, choice of weapons and even ''haircut''; in fact, the only obvious difference between them would be that Sin is not a vampire, and so can't be quite as over-the-top as Rayne. The settings also fit together, since Marvel has both vampires and Nazis in all flavors, and Rayne and the Red Skull won't ''necessarily'' hate each other. It's obvious from their behavior that the GG-Gruppe Rayne fought in her game was some kind of rogue splinter faction of the Nazis (which would also explain [[NoSwastikas why they used the triskelion as their symbol instead of the swastika]]), kind of like HYDRA in the ''First Avenger'' movie. She doesn't hate them because they're Nazis, but because they're insane cultist nuts trying to [[TooDumbToLive conjure the literal Devil]]. For his part, the Skull, being a [[UndyingLoyalty particularly devoted]] Nazi loyalist in the comics, wouldn't mind it if his girlfriend massacred a bunch of demented fake-Nazi posers who tried to destroy the world in some occult ritual -- indeed, he'd probably be grateful to her for saving him the trouble of doing it himself.
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* There still remains the issue of whether the Skull, who [[FantasticRacism dislikes nonhumans]], would date a vampire. But otherwise they would probably get along kind of well, at least if this is one of the crazier versions of the Skull. And, yes, the resemblance between Rayne and Sin ''is'' remarkable.
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* There still remains the issue of whether the Skull, who [[FantasticRacism dislikes nonhumans]], would date a vampire. But otherwise they would probably get along kind of well, at least if this is one of the crazier versions of the Skull. And, yes, the resemblance between Rayne and Sin ''is'' remarkable.remarkable.
[[WMG: [[https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jurgen_Hauptmann_(Earth-616) Iron-hand Hauptmann]] was some kind of an intentional reference to [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen Götz von Berlichtingen]].]]
[[WMG: [[https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jurgen_Hauptmann_(Earth-616) Iron-hand Hauptmann]] was some kind of an intentional reference to [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen Götz von Berlichtingen]].]]
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!! Captain America (The MCU version) doesn't know about the Holocaust. (And the Avengers have been trying to keep him from finding out.)
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** Actually, the Holocaust was discovered in 1944 by the Soviets, and even then, he surely would've found out by catching up with history books to see what he missed.
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** Actually, the Holocaust was discovered in 1944 by the Soviets, and even then, he surely would've found out by catching up with history books to see what he missed.missed.
[[WMG:The Skull was against UsefulNotes/NaziGermany's FinalSolution's timing of implementation.]]
In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks origin story by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, The Red Skull was ordered by Hitler to shoot a German officer [[YouHaveFailedMe for failure]]. Yet, the Skull simply shot off the officer's buttons with the stated purpose of terrifying him into absolute obedience, since a dead man is useless to the cause. With that example of his PragmaticEvil way of thinking, The Skull was disgusted with the expense of the FinalSolution as militarily useless, diverting resources and manpower when the Third Reich is on the defensive against the Allies.
However, make '''no mistake:''' the moment that it served a worthwhile purpose in this monster's twisted judgement or when final victory was won, the Skull dreamt of a genocidal slaughter of the Reich's "undesirables" that would make Heinrich Himmler agape at its horrific thoroughness. All the more reason for ComicBook/CaptainAmerica to kick his ass.
[[WMG: [[VideoGame/BloodRayne Rayne]] is Sin's mother]]
Or maybe grandmother, depending on how Marvel's particular take on ComicBookTime works. Let's see, snarky EvilRedhead KnifeNut DarkActionGirl who dresses in red and black, with a connection to the Nazis and little enough regard for collateral damage... Are we talking about Rayne or Sin? They're enough alike that they could be sisters, in both appearance, personality, costume, choice of weapons and even ''haircut''; in fact, the only obvious difference between them would be that Sin is not a vampire, and so can't be quite as over-the-top as Rayne. The settings also fit together, since Marvel has both vampires and Nazis in all flavors, and Rayne and the Red Skull won't ''necessarily'' hate each other. It's obvious from their behavior that the GG-Gruppe Rayne fought in her game was some kind of rogue splinter faction of the Nazis (which would also explain [[NoSwastikas why they used the triskelion as their symbol instead of the swastika]]), kind of like HYDRA in the ''First Avenger'' movie. She doesn't hate them because they're Nazis, but because they're insane cultist nuts trying to [[TooDumbToLive conjure the literal Devil]]. For his part, the Skull, being a [[UndyingLoyalty particularly devoted]] Nazi loyalist in the comics, wouldn't mind it if his girlfriend massacred a bunch of demented fake-Nazi posers who tried to destroy the world in some occult ritual -- indeed, he'd probably be grateful to her for saving him the trouble of doing it himself.
* There still remains the issue of whether the Skull, who [[FantasticRacism dislikes nonhumans]], would date a vampire. But otherwise they would probably get along kind of well, at least if this is one of the crazier versions of the Skull. And, yes, the resemblance between Rayne and Sin ''is'' remarkable.
[[WMG:The Skull was against UsefulNotes/NaziGermany's FinalSolution's timing of implementation.]]
In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks origin story by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, The Red Skull was ordered by Hitler to shoot a German officer [[YouHaveFailedMe for failure]]. Yet, the Skull simply shot off the officer's buttons with the stated purpose of terrifying him into absolute obedience, since a dead man is useless to the cause. With that example of his PragmaticEvil way of thinking, The Skull was disgusted with the expense of the FinalSolution as militarily useless, diverting resources and manpower when the Third Reich is on the defensive against the Allies.
However, make '''no mistake:''' the moment that it served a worthwhile purpose in this monster's twisted judgement or when final victory was won, the Skull dreamt of a genocidal slaughter of the Reich's "undesirables" that would make Heinrich Himmler agape at its horrific thoroughness. All the more reason for ComicBook/CaptainAmerica to kick his ass.
[[WMG: [[VideoGame/BloodRayne Rayne]] is Sin's mother]]
Or maybe grandmother, depending on how Marvel's particular take on ComicBookTime works. Let's see, snarky EvilRedhead KnifeNut DarkActionGirl who dresses in red and black, with a connection to the Nazis and little enough regard for collateral damage... Are we talking about Rayne or Sin? They're enough alike that they could be sisters, in both appearance, personality, costume, choice of weapons and even ''haircut''; in fact, the only obvious difference between them would be that Sin is not a vampire, and so can't be quite as over-the-top as Rayne. The settings also fit together, since Marvel has both vampires and Nazis in all flavors, and Rayne and the Red Skull won't ''necessarily'' hate each other. It's obvious from their behavior that the GG-Gruppe Rayne fought in her game was some kind of rogue splinter faction of the Nazis (which would also explain [[NoSwastikas why they used the triskelion as their symbol instead of the swastika]]), kind of like HYDRA in the ''First Avenger'' movie. She doesn't hate them because they're Nazis, but because they're insane cultist nuts trying to [[TooDumbToLive conjure the literal Devil]]. For his part, the Skull, being a [[UndyingLoyalty particularly devoted]] Nazi loyalist in the comics, wouldn't mind it if his girlfriend massacred a bunch of demented fake-Nazi posers who tried to destroy the world in some occult ritual -- indeed, he'd probably be grateful to her for saving him the trouble of doing it himself.
* There still remains the issue of whether the Skull, who [[FantasticRacism dislikes nonhumans]], would date a vampire. But otherwise they would probably get along kind of well, at least if this is one of the crazier versions of the Skull. And, yes, the resemblance between Rayne and Sin ''is'' remarkable.
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* He'd sure be heartbroken if he found out (All of those people... 3 million of them... And he couldn't do anything.)
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* He'd sure be heartbroken if he found out (All of those people... 3 million of them... And he couldn't do anything.))
** Actually, the Holocaust was discovered in 1944 by the Soviets, and even then, he surely would've found out by catching up with history books to see what he missed.
** Actually, the Holocaust was discovered in 1944 by the Soviets, and even then, he surely would've found out by catching up with history books to see what he missed.
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!! Captain America (The MCU version) doesn't know about the Holocaust. (And the Avengers have been trying to keep him from finding out.)
*He was frozen before the Holocaust was found out.
*As far as I've heard, no one has mentioned it to him.
*He'd sure be heartbroken if he found out (All of those people... 3 million of them... And he couldn't do anything.)
*He was frozen before the Holocaust was found out.
*As far as I've heard, no one has mentioned it to him.
*He'd sure be heartbroken if he found out (All of those people... 3 million of them... And he couldn't do anything.)
