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* Ryoko is [[WomanChild immature]] and has [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel idealistic]] ideas about love. She fails to realize that her teenager romance with Shin was puppy love. After the honeymoon, Ryoko will discover that marriage isn't just starry-eyed romance, and that things like bills, chores, career decisions, illness, annoying habits, and occasional disagreements are part of the package. When reality sets in, Ryoko will lose interest.

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* Ryoko is [[WomanChild immature]] and has [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel idealistic]] ideas about love. She fails to realize that her teenager romance with Shin was puppy love. After the honeymoon, Ryoko will discover that marriage isn't just starry-eyed romance, and that things like bills, chores, career decisions, illness, annoying habits, and occasional disagreements are part of the package. When reality sets in, Ryoko will lose interest.interest.


[[WMG: Mickey and Fred were adopted]]

In the manga, Mickey and Fred do share a vague resemblance, in that both are tall, blond, and have fine facial features. However, they look ''nothing'' like their short, plain parents. What if Mickey and Fred were biologically related brothers who were [[HappilyAdopted adopted]] by the Simon family?
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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that he flew toward the sun while leading a formation, causing his students to mistake the sun for his afterburner and crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?

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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that he flew toward the sun while leading a formation, causing his students to mistake the sun for his afterburner and crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, sleep-deprived, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?
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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that he flew toward the sun while leading a formation, causing his students to mistake the sun for his afterburner and crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?

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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that he flew toward the sun while leading a formation, causing his students to mistake the sun for his afterburner and crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?crashes?

[[WMG: Shin and Ryoko's marriage won't last a month.]]
At the end of the manga, Shin and Ryoko reunite and presumably get married. Because of their flawed personalities, the marriage will quickly fail and end in divorce.
* [[LovingAShadow Neither character really understands the other]], nor do they have much in common.
* Even though Shin has amnesia at the end of the manga, he will still have unconscious, untreated war trauma, which could make him difficult to live with. He also demonstrated cold tendencies throughout the manga, which could also make him an unpleasant husband.
* Ryoko is [[WomanChild immature]] and has [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel idealistic]] ideas about love. She fails to realize that her teenager romance with Shin was puppy love. After the honeymoon, Ryoko will discover that marriage isn't just starry-eyed romance, and that things like bills, chores, career decisions, illness, annoying habits, and occasional disagreements are part of the package. When reality sets in, Ryoko will lose interest.
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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that his students mistook the sun for his afterburner while flying in formation, causing them to crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?

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Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that he flew toward the sun while leading a formation, causing his students mistook to mistake the sun for his afterburner while flying in formation, causing them to and crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?
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Why else would a Dane have such a dark complexion and stocky build? Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, so Greg might be of mixed Danish and Greenland Inuit descent.

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Why else would a Dane have such a dark complexion and stocky build? Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, so Greg might be of mixed Danish and Greenland Inuit descent.descent.

[[WMG:Hoover is hiding something about the crash over Mont Blanc.]]
Hoover's account of the disastrous NATO training exercise in France -- that his students mistook the sun for his afterburner while flying in formation, causing them to crash into the mountainside -- doesn't sound plausible. Hoover was an experienced fighter pilot and instructor, so it's unlikely that he would have made such a mistake with a clear mind. Did Hoover leave something out when he shared his story with Shin, Mario, and Mickey? Was Hoover actually intoxicated, high, or debilitated by a secret medical condition (i.e., epilepsy, narcolepsy) while leading the formation, causing him to make mistakes that lead to the crashes?
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[[WMG:A collaboration between Shintani and Creator/{{Namco|Bandai}} will result in a new ''Area 88'' game styled after ''VideoGame/AceCombat''.]]

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[[WMG:A collaboration between Shintani and Creator/{{Namco|Bandai}} Creator/BandaiNamcoEntertainment will result in a new ''Area 88'' game styled after ''VideoGame/AceCombat''.]]
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There was already [[http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Collaboration_Event#Area_88 a crossover event]] for ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'' in October of 2014 wherein players could obtain the planes flown by Shin, Mickey, Greg, and Kim. Fans of both series will notice that the roles of the F-5E -Shin Kazama- ([[JackOfAllStats Multirole]]; the F-20A -Shin Kazama- is a [[GlassCannon Fighter]]), F-14A -Mickey Simon- ([[GlassCannon Fighter]]), and A-10A -Greg Gates- ([[MightyGlacier Attacker]]) match up pretty well against their pilots' specialties in ''U.N. Squadron'': Shin's an all-arounder, Mickey excels at air-to-air combat, and Greg can take a lot of punishment. The tale of mercs fighting in the Aslanian Civil War [[spoiler:and the eventual battle against Project 4's terrorist forces]], plus the manga/OVA's anti-war message and somber mood, lends itself to a story with a ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar AC5]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar Zero]]'' feel, and many of the armaments and vehicles found in the later portions of the manga and the video game aren't too outlandish when compared to what's been seen in ''Ace Combat'' (heavy-class command cruisers, satellite laser systems, orbital railguns, remote-controlled/unmanned [=UAVs=], tactical laser cannons and similar energy weapon types, ECM systems able to deflect missiles and bullet fire, etc.). As [[VindicatedByHistory more and more people are (re)discovering the hallmarks of]] ''[[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames U.N. Squadron]]'', ''Area 88'' could use another quality video game adaptation to get back into the public eye. After all, its most recent offering was the 2004 anime. Bonus points if the usual ''AC'' series composers were somehow able to team up with Manami Matsumae, who did the score for ''U.N. Squadron''.

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There was already [[http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Collaboration_Event#Area_88 a crossover event]] for ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'' in October of 2014 wherein players could obtain the planes flown by Shin, Mickey, Greg, and Kim. Fans of both series will notice that the roles of the F-5E -Shin Kazama- ([[JackOfAllStats Multirole]]; the F-20A -Shin Kazama- is a [[GlassCannon Fighter]]), F-14A -Mickey Simon- ([[GlassCannon Fighter]]), and A-10A -Greg Gates- ([[MightyGlacier Attacker]]) match up pretty well against their pilots' specialties in ''U.N. Squadron'': Shin's an all-arounder, Mickey excels at air-to-air combat, and Greg can take a lot of punishment. The tale of mercs fighting in the Aslanian Civil War [[spoiler:and the eventual battle against Project 4's terrorist forces]], plus the manga/OVA's anti-war message and somber mood, lends itself to a story with a ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar AC5]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar Zero]]'' feel, and many of the armaments and vehicles found in the later portions of the manga and the video game aren't too outlandish when compared to what's been seen in ''Ace Combat'' (heavy-class command cruisers, satellite laser systems, orbital railguns, remote-controlled/unmanned [=UAVs=], tactical laser cannons and similar energy weapon types, ECM systems able to deflect missiles and bullet fire, etc.). As [[VindicatedByHistory more and more people are (re)discovering the hallmarks of]] ''[[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames U.N. Squadron]]'', ''Area 88'' could use another quality video game adaptation to get back into the public eye. After all, its most recent offering was the 2004 anime. Bonus points if the usual ''AC'' series composers were somehow able to team up with Manami Matsumae, who did the score for ''U.N. Squadron''.Squadron''.

[[WMG:Greg is partially of Greenland Inuit descent]]
Why else would a Dane have such a dark complexion and stocky build? Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, so Greg might be of mixed Danish and Greenland Inuit descent.
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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay ([[BuryYourGays and being out of the closet tend to limit one's life expectancy in many Middle Eastern and North African countries]]), he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping observers would make assumptions. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay ([[BuryYourGays and being out of the closet tend tends to limit one's life expectancy in many Middle Eastern and North African countries]]), he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping observers would make assumptions. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.
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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping observers would make assumptions. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, gay ([[BuryYourGays and being out of the closet tend to limit one's life expectancy in many Middle Eastern and North African countries]]), he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping observers would make assumptions. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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** Most likely, Mick remembered much earlier and informed everyone else, except Saki, who may have known why they were there. Mick seems relieved that it turned out that Saki didn't call for them, after all. And Saki reassures that he would not hire "Escape Killers"

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** Most likely, Mick remembered much earlier and informed everyone else, except Saki, who may have known why they were there. Mick seems relieved that it turned out that Saki didn't call for them, after all. And Saki reassures that he would not hire "Escape Killers"Killers"

[[WMG:A collaboration between Shintani and Creator/{{Namco|Bandai}} will result in a new ''Area 88'' game styled after ''VideoGame/AceCombat''.]]
There was already [[http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Collaboration_Event#Area_88 a crossover event]] for ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'' in October of 2014 wherein players could obtain the planes flown by Shin, Mickey, Greg, and Kim. Fans of both series will notice that the roles of the F-5E -Shin Kazama- ([[JackOfAllStats Multirole]]; the F-20A -Shin Kazama- is a [[GlassCannon Fighter]]), F-14A -Mickey Simon- ([[GlassCannon Fighter]]), and A-10A -Greg Gates- ([[MightyGlacier Attacker]]) match up pretty well against their pilots' specialties in ''U.N. Squadron'': Shin's an all-arounder, Mickey excels at air-to-air combat, and Greg can take a lot of punishment. The tale of mercs fighting in the Aslanian Civil War [[spoiler:and the eventual battle against Project 4's terrorist forces]], plus the manga/OVA's anti-war message and somber mood, lends itself to a story with a ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar AC5]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar Zero]]'' feel, and many of the armaments and vehicles found in the later portions of the manga and the video game aren't too outlandish when compared to what's been seen in ''Ace Combat'' (heavy-class command cruisers, satellite laser systems, orbital railguns, remote-controlled/unmanned [=UAVs=], tactical laser cannons and similar energy weapon types, ECM systems able to deflect missiles and bullet fire, etc.). As [[VindicatedByHistory more and more people are (re)discovering the hallmarks of]] ''[[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames U.N. Squadron]]'', ''Area 88'' could use another quality video game adaptation to get back into the public eye. After all, its most recent offering was the 2004 anime. Bonus points if the usual ''AC'' series composers were somehow able to team up with Manami Matsumae, who did the score for ''U.N. Squadron''.
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At the end of the manga, after Project 4 collapsed, Kanzaki challenged Shin to an aerial duel. During the duel, Kanzaki told Shin about his mother's suicide, as well as her murder of Shin's parents. Kanzaki may have brought this up because he wanted to be with them in death. Kanzaki also chose to duel with a man who had years of combat experience in a brutal civil war, so he had to have known that his odds of beating Shin were nil. In short, Kanzaki may have wanted to die at Shin's hands, or at least go out in a murder-suicide, since he had nothing more to live for.

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At the end of the manga, after Project 4 collapsed, Kanzaki challenged Shin to an aerial duel. During the duel, Kanzaki told Shin about his mother's suicide, as well as her murder of Shin's parents. Kanzaki may have brought this up because he wanted to be with them in death. Kanzaki also chose to duel with a man who had years of combat experience in a brutal civil war, so he had to have known that his odds of beating Shin were nil. In short, Kanzaki may have wanted to die at Shin's hands, or at least go out in a murder-suicide, since he had nothing more to live for.for.

[[WMG: The Escape Killers were [[SecretTest testing someone but who was being tested? Maybe everyone.]]]]
Saki knows full well that Shin isn't at Area 88 for the same reason as everyone else. The Escape Killer trio didn't really need to confront Shin and [[GiveMeAReason issue a challenge]]. It almost looked as if they were actively discouraging him.
--> '''Lead Escape Killer''': "We understand your situation, but this is not the answer"
--> '''Escape Killer #2''': "You can never escape from here."
--> '''Escape Killer #3''': "No one in the Middle East has ever made it past us. Care to try your luck?"
** They could have just stayed hidden and allowed him to take off so that they could follow him unexpectedly and shoot him down. Presumably, this is the way that they would usually work if they expect to make any money from hunting deserters.
** This alleged desertion attempt was happening in the dead of morning. It was strange for everyone else to show up at that moment. First Mick, revealing that he finally remembered who these three guys are. Then Greg and the rest of the pilots, who just happened to show up to participate in threatening to beat down the Escape Killers. And finally Saki, who tells the three pilots to leave and report this incident to headquarters stating that there are no deserters here.
** There is no questioning towards Shin as to why he was geared up for takeoff with no mission. And when Shin appears as if he's beginning to confess his true intentions, Saki and Mick cut him off and instead assure him that he will get home.
** Most likely, Mick remembered much earlier and informed everyone else, except Saki, who may have known why they were there. Mick seems relieved that it turned out that Saki didn't call for them, after all. And Saki reassures that he would not hire "Escape Killers"
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[[WMG: Kanzaki aerial duel with Shin was intended as suicide]]
At the end of the manga, after Project 4 collapsed, Kanzaki challenged Shin to an aerial duel. During the duel, Kanzaki told Shin about his mother's suicide, as well as her murder of Shin's parents. Kanzaki may have brought this up because he wanted to be with them in death. Kanzaki also chose to duel with a man who had years of combat experience in a brutal civil war, so he had to have known that his odds of beating Shin were nil. In short, Kanzaki may have wanted to die at Shin's hands, or at least go out in a murder-suicide, since he had nothing more to live for.
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[[WMG: Sawa is one of the [[{{Series/Fringe}} Observers]]

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[[WMG: Sawa is one of the [[{{Series/Fringe}} Observers]]
He's bald, he always wears a black suit and tie, and he appears at just the right time to save Saki's life. Maybe he's protecting Saki to make sure that certain events occur in the timestream.
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Where to start? She idealizes Shin despite evidence to the contrary, she's impulsive, she has intense moods, and she [[spoiler: attempts suicide in manga that did not make it stateside. When she and Shin are temporarily reunited later in the manga, the relationship is intense but ultimately unstable.]] Her obsession with Shin could be interpreted as an attempt to avoid perceived abandonment, and/or an attempt to soothe some inner emptiness. When one looks at Ryoko's behavior as a whole, she could plausibly be a BPD sufferer.

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Where to start? She idealizes Shin despite evidence to the contrary, she's impulsive, she has intense moods, and she [[spoiler: attempts suicide in manga that did not make it stateside. ]] In her quest to reunite with Shin, she seems unconcerned about how her actions will impact her father, Taeko, or Josie, suggesting an empathy deficit. [[spoiler: When she and Shin are temporarily reunited later in the manga, the relationship is intense but ultimately unstable.]] Her obsession with Shin could be interpreted as an attempt to avoid perceived abandonment, and/or an attempt to soothe some inner emptiness. When one looks at Ryoko's behavior as a whole, she could plausibly be a BPD sufferer.
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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping people would make assumptions about them. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping people observers would make assumptions about them.assumptions. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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[[WMG: Saki's [[{{BodyguardBabes}} private soldiers]] were [[{{TheBeard}} beards]].]]
Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping people would make assumptions about them. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.

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[[WMG: Saki's [[{{BodyguardBabes}} private soldiers]] in the manga were [[{{TheBeard}} beards]].]]
Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping people would make assumptions about them. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.status.

[[WMG: Ryoko suffers from borderline personality disorder in the manga and OVA.]]
Where to start? She idealizes Shin despite evidence to the contrary, she's impulsive, she has intense moods, and she [[spoiler: attempts suicide in manga that did not make it stateside. When she and Shin are temporarily reunited later in the manga, the relationship is intense but ultimately unstable.]] Her obsession with Shin could be interpreted as an attempt to avoid perceived abandonment, and/or an attempt to soothe some inner emptiness. When one looks at Ryoko's behavior as a whole, she could plausibly be a BPD sufferer.
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[[WMG: Saki's [[{{BodyguardBabes}} private soldiers]] were [[{{TheBeard}} beards]].

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[[WMG: Saki's [[{{BodyguardBabes}} private soldiers]] were [[{{TheBeard}} beards]].
Saki was asexual, suggested by the fact that he never had a love interest or showed attraction to anyone in any continuity. Fearing that others would presume he was gay, he hired four beautiful women to be his bodyguards, hoping people would make assumptions about them. The bodyguards didn't say much, mainly because they didn't want to accidentally give away Saki's asexuality or their beard status.
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[[WMG: Greg intentionally destroyed Gold's documents.]]
When Greg discovered and destroyed the Arabic documents at Gold's crash site, he wasn't simply holding the {{idiot ball}}. He knew that the documents could give the pro-monarchy forces a decisive edge and possibly end the war, thereby putting him out of a job. He intentionally destroyed the documents so that the Asran civil war would continue, providing him with continued employment as a mercenary.

[[WMG: Shin's amnesia at the end of the manga was an act.]]
Shin feared that Ryoko wouldn't take him back after he broke her heart, so he pretended to have amnesia to play on her sympathy.

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