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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: All of the strict, cruel practices of the Haven are justified in the name of protecting everyone from the threat of "going insane."

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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: All of the strict, cruel practices of the Haven are justified in the name of protecting everyone from the threat of "going insane.""
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* MeaningfulRename: In the final act of the game, [[spoiler:Magda fuses with Nils and decides to rename themselves Lilia. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in the shape of a cross. This could be a hint of their violent, vengeful nature]].

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* MeaningfulRename: In the final act of the game, [[spoiler:Magda fuses with Nils and decides to rename themselves Lilia. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in the shape of a cross. This could be a hint of their violent, vengeful nature]].nature. Lilith (a name that originates from Lily) is also the name of Adam's first wife who was rejected from The Garden of Eden for refusing to be subservient to Adam.]]

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->''In a world filled with insanity, the Haven is a sanctuary.''

->''I'm fortunate to be born and raised here.''

->''This is a privilege few have.''

->''I'm happy that I have it.''

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->''In a world filled with insanity, the Haven is a sanctuary.''

->''I'm
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''I'm
fortunate to be born and raised here.''

->''This
''\\
''This
is a privilege few have.''

->''I'm
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''I'm
happy that I have it.''






* AssholeVictim: The deaths of [[spoiler: Eve and Cerise]] are not only ludicrously drawn-out and violent but exceptionally cruel ([[spoiler: with Eve having her life's work destroyed before her eyes before being killed]]), but after seeing their obnoxious, HolierThanThou attitudes and ruthless torment and eventual torture of [[spoiler: Magda]] it can be hard to feel pity for them.
** While the death of [[spoiler: Amaris]] isn't shown on-screen, [[spoiler: it's doubtful the player feels too bad for her because of the experiments she had done on Nils.]]
* AwfulTruth: The good health of all the inhabitants of the Haven is thanks to [[spoiler: the extended torture of Nils, whose blood is basically used as a nutrient in everyone's food.]]
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: After being imprisoned Magda is isolated from everyone and everything, save the cruelty and torment of Eve and Cerise's visits. It's at this lowest point that Magda accepts Nils' offer to fuse with them and take her revenge on everyone who hurt her.]]
** [[spoiler: Nils only wanted to help humanity but was captured and experimented on by Lady Amaris for countless years. This treatment is what let them to reach out to Magda in order to get her revenge, and when she began having doubts, Nils took full control of Lilia, in order to get ''their'' revenge-- on all of the Haven, and ''all'' of humankind.]]
* BitchInSheepsClothing: [[spoiler: While Maria isn't nearly as cruel and snide as Eve or Cerise, she turns out to be a lot colder than her outwardly motherly appearance would suggest. She snaps at Magda for trying to confide in her, and when Lilia appears before her, Maria acts as if they don't even exist. Perhaps her cruelest act of all is stealing Magda's concept for her own art after she's imprisoned.]]
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The Haven operates on the logic that ''anything'' can be justified if it's done in the name of preserving the purity of the community (white) or fighting the threat of "insanity" (black). This includes banning any art that could be seen as promoting insanity, policing what culture from the outside world is allowed in the community, punishing people based on private writing and thoughts, and [[spoiler: torturing and experimenting on a sentient being to create what is essentially a living battery.]]

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* AssholeVictim: AssholeVictim:
**
The deaths of [[spoiler: Eve [[spoiler:Eve and Cerise]] are not only ludicrously drawn-out and violent but exceptionally cruel ([[spoiler: with ([[spoiler:with Eve having her life's work destroyed before her eyes before being killed]]), but after seeing their obnoxious, HolierThanThou attitudes and ruthless torment and eventual torture of [[spoiler: Magda]] [[spoiler:Magda]] it can be hard to feel pity for them.
** While the death of [[spoiler: Amaris]] [[spoiler:Amaris]] isn't shown on-screen, [[spoiler: it's [[spoiler:it's doubtful the player feels too bad for her because of the experiments she had done on Nils.]]
Nils]].
* AwfulTruth: The good health of all the inhabitants of the Haven is thanks to [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the extended torture of Nils, whose blood is basically used as a nutrient in everyone's food.]]
food]].
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: After BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil:
** [[spoiler:After
being imprisoned Magda is isolated from everyone and everything, save the cruelty and torment of Eve and Cerise's visits. It's at this lowest point that Magda accepts Nils' offer to fuse with them and take her revenge on everyone who hurt her.]]
** [[spoiler: Nils [[spoiler:Nils only wanted to help humanity but was captured and experimented on by Lady Amaris for countless years. This treatment is what let them to reach out to Magda in order to get her revenge, and when she began having doubts, Nils took full control of Lilia, in order to get ''their'' revenge-- on all of the Haven, and ''all'' of humankind.]]
* BitchInSheepsClothing: [[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While Maria isn't nearly as cruel and snide as Eve or Cerise, she turns out to be a lot colder than her outwardly motherly appearance would suggest. She snaps at Magda for trying to confide in her, and when Lilia appears before her, Maria acts as if they don't even exist. Perhaps her cruelest act of all is stealing Magda's concept for her own art after she's imprisoned.]]
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The Haven operates on the logic that ''anything'' can be justified if it's done in the name of preserving the purity of the community (white) or fighting the threat of "insanity" (black). This includes banning any art that could be seen as promoting insanity, policing what culture from the outside world is allowed in the community, punishing people based on private writing and thoughts, and [[spoiler: torturing [[spoiler:torturing and experimenting on a sentient being to create what is essentially a living battery.]]battery]].



* CulturePolice: There's no one select group of people in the Haven that act as this, but this is essentially the purpose of the Apologia Assemblies-- instead, ''everyone'' is encouraged to act as CulturePolice, and ''anything'' can be subject to scrutiny. In the beginning of the game, Maria's friend Jael is sentenced to banishment for indulging in culture from the outside deemed "insane," and it's revealed that Magda once was the subject of an Assembly for writing "unsafe" things. [[spoiler: As it turns out, not even personal diaries are exempt from this.]]
* HairWings: Nils has wings on their head that formerly matched the wings on their back. [[spoiler: After they fuse with Magda, Lilia has these wings as well.]]

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* CulturePolice: There's no one select group of people in the Haven that act as this, but this is essentially the purpose of the Apologia Assemblies-- instead, ''everyone'' is encouraged to act as CulturePolice, and ''anything'' can be subject to scrutiny. In the beginning of the game, Maria's friend Jael is sentenced to banishment for indulging in culture from the outside deemed "insane," and it's revealed that Magda once was the subject of an Assembly for writing "unsafe" things. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As it turns out, not even personal diaries are exempt from this.]]
* HairWings: Nils has wings on their head that formerly matched the wings on their back. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After they fuse with Magda, Lilia has these wings as well.]]



* MeaningfulRename: In the final act of the game, [[spoiler: Magda fuses with Nils and decides to rename themselves Lilia. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in the shape of a cross. This could be a hint of their violent, vengeful nature.]]
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: It is very heavily implied that [[spoiler: Grace strongly regrets betraying Magda by telling Cerise about her diary. As Magda is being beaten into unconsciousness by the other Haven members, she sees Grace mouth the words "I'm sorry," and when Lilia goes to her room in the middle of the night, they find her weeping in her sleep and whispering Magda's name.]] It's this remorse [[spoiler: that moves Lilia to spare her, and in the end of the game Grace is the only survivor of Lilia's wrath.]]
* NiceGirl: Grace's most prominent trait is her kind, gentle soul, and as the one person who stood up for Magda a year before the story, she's likely the kindest person in the Haven. [[spoiler: This is why it hurts so bad when she is the one to ultimately betray Magda, and why Magda notes that even as the others beat her into unconsciousness after her Assembly with cruel smiles, it's the apologetic expression of Grace that infuriates her the most.]]
* OddNameOut: Cerise is the only character whose name does not follow the pattern of ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming. "''Cerise''" is a shade of red [[spoiler: which might be a morbidly playful bit of {{Foreshadowing}} about her exceptionally violent demise.]]

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* MeaningfulRename: In the final act of the game, [[spoiler: Magda [[spoiler:Magda fuses with Nils and decides to rename themselves Lilia. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in the shape of a cross. This could be a hint of their violent, vengeful nature.]]
nature]].
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: It is very heavily implied that [[spoiler: Grace [[spoiler:Grace strongly regrets betraying Magda by telling Cerise about her diary. As Magda is being beaten into unconsciousness by the other Haven members, she sees Grace mouth the words "I'm sorry," and when Lilia goes to her room in the middle of the night, they find her weeping in her sleep and whispering Magda's name.]] name]]. It's this remorse [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that moves Lilia to spare her, and in the end of the game Grace is the only survivor of Lilia's wrath.]]
wrath]].
* NiceGirl: Grace's most prominent trait is her kind, gentle soul, and as the one person who stood up for Magda a year before the story, she's likely the kindest person in the Haven. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is why it hurts so bad when she is the one to ultimately betray Magda, and why Magda notes that even as the others beat her into unconsciousness after her Assembly with cruel smiles, it's the apologetic expression of Grace that infuriates her the most.]]
* OddNameOut: Cerise is the only character whose name does not follow the pattern of ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming. "''Cerise''" is a shade of red [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which might be a morbidly playful bit of {{Foreshadowing}} about her exceptionally violent demise.]]demise]].



* PsychologicalHorror: While ''Bad Faith'' features violence and some [[spoiler: sci-fi and fantastical elements]], the true horror comes from the idea of being ostracized and dehumanized by your own community, such as the way the Haven treats anyone deemed "insane."
* RedEyesTakeWarning: When the mysterious angel-like being Magda discovers in the strange building opens their eyes to look at her, they're an inhuman red. After this encounter, Magda beings having disturbing thoughts. [[spoiler: Of course this is actually a subversion: Nils only wanted to help humankind, and was captured and tortured for their troubles... which caused them to want to get revenge on humanity, playing the trope straight.]]

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* PsychologicalHorror: While ''Bad Faith'' features violence and some [[spoiler: sci-fi [[spoiler:sci-fi and fantastical elements]], the true horror comes from the idea of being ostracized and dehumanized by your own community, such as the way the Haven treats anyone deemed "insane."
* RedEyesTakeWarning: When the mysterious angel-like being Magda discovers in the strange building opens their eyes to look at her, they're an inhuman red. After this encounter, Magda beings having disturbing thoughts. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course this is actually a subversion: Nils only wanted to help humankind, and was captured and tortured for their troubles... which caused them to want to get revenge on humanity, playing the trope straight.]]



** [[spoiler: Magda decides to rename herself Lilia after fusing with Nils. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in a quincunx... that is to say, the shape of a cross.]]
* ThenLetMeBeEvil: [[spoiler: After trying her hardest to adhere to the rigid standards of the Haven, only to suffer the indignity of being found "insane" for the ''private thoughts'' in her diary that were never supposed to be read by anyone and being brutally beaten and tortured, it's hardly a surprise that Magda goes so far off the deep end after fusing with Nils and becoming Lilia, viciously murdering Eve and Cerise with their bare hands. Unfortunately, Magda does come to regret this.]]

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** [[spoiler: Magda [[spoiler:Magda decides to rename herself Lilia after fusing with Nils. "''Lilia''" is the Latin word for lilies, a flower commonly associated with the Virgin Mary, but can also refer to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilia an obscure battle tactic used by the Romans]] in which spiked pit traps are dug in a quincunx... that is to say, the shape of a cross.]]
* ThenLetMeBeEvil: [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After trying her hardest to adhere to the rigid standards of the Haven, only to suffer the indignity of being found "insane" for the ''private thoughts'' in her diary that were never supposed to be read by anyone and being brutally beaten and tortured, it's hardly a surprise that Magda goes so far off the deep end after fusing with Nils and becoming Lilia, viciously murdering Eve and Cerise with their bare hands. Unfortunately, Magda does come to regret this.]]
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''Bad Faith'' is a short PsychologicalHorror VisualNovel developed almost entirely by Mado, including art, writing, and coding. It can be purchased on [[https://madocallie.itch.io/badfaith Itch.io]] or on [[https://store.steampowered.com/app/1871790/Bad_Faith/ Steam]].

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''Bad Faith'' is a short PsychologicalHorror VisualNovel developed almost entirely by Mado, {{WebAnimation/Mado}}, including art, writing, and coding. It can be purchased on [[https://madocallie.itch.io/badfaith Itch.io]] or on [[https://store.steampowered.com/app/1871790/Bad_Faith/ Steam]].

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* NiceGirl: Grace's most prominent trait is her kind, gentle soul, and as the one person who stood up for Magda a year before the story, she's likely the kindest person in the Haven. [[spoiler: This is why it hurts so bad when she is the one to ultimately betray Magda, and why Magda notes that even as the others beat her into unconsciousness after her Assembly with cruel smiles, it's the apologetic expression of Grace that infuriates her the most.]]


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* NiceGirl: Grace's most prominent trait is her kind, gentle soul, and as the one person who stood up for Magda a year before the story, she's likely the kindest person in the Haven. [[spoiler: This is why it hurts so bad when she is the one to ultimately betray Magda, and why Magda notes that even as the others beat her into unconsciousness after her Assembly with cruel smiles, it's the apologetic expression of Grace that infuriates her the most.]]
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* AwfulTruth: The good health of all the inhabitants of the Haven are thanks to [[spoiler: the extended torture of Nils, whose blood is basically used as a nutrient in everyone's food.]]

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* AwfulTruth: The good health of all the inhabitants of the Haven are is thanks to [[spoiler: the extended torture of Nils, whose blood is basically used as a nutrient in everyone's food.]]
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: It is very heavily implied that [[spoiler: Grace strongly regrets betraying Magda by telling Cerise about her diary. As Magda is being beaten into unconsciousness by the other Haven members, she sees Grace mouth the words "I'm sorry," and when Lilia goes to her room in the middle of the night, they find her weeping in her sleep and whispering Magda's name.]] It's this remorse [[spoiler: that moves Lilia to spare her, and in the end of the game Grace is the only survivor of Lilia's wrath.]]

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