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Few strange consonants and vowels are ng, nh, ă, ư, ơ...
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A few phonetic peculiarities will be listed here. Like ''l'' and ''r'' in Japanese, Northern Vietnamese speakers will often mess up between ''l'' and ''n'', but not for the same reason. ''l'' and ''n'' are supposed to be distinct in Vietnamese, but because of the Northern accent and general sloppiness, they often turn out to sound the same. Southern and Central speakers will not ever make the same mistake. In Southern Vietnamese, because of its sloppiness, there is a lot of mess up, like between ''r'' and ''g'' (with all ''r'' sounds like ''g''), ''tr'' and ''ch'' (''tr'' sounds like ''ch'')..., but most notably ''v'' and ''d'' (''v'' sounds like ''d''). I'm no expert in Central Vietnamese, however.
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A few phonetic peculiarities will be listed here. Like ''l'' and ''r'' in Japanese, some Northern Vietnamese speakers will often mess up between ''l'' and ''n'', but not for the same reason. ''l'' and ''n'' are supposed to be distinct in Vietnamese, but because of the Northern accent and general sloppiness, accent, sometimes they often turn out to sound switch place, with the same. Southern and Central speakers will not ever make the same mistake. In Southern Vietnamese, because of its sloppiness, there is a lot of mess up, like between ''r'' and ''g'' (with all ''r'' ''l'' sounds like ''g''), ''n'' and vice versa. Some consonants sound the same or very similar comparing from the 'right' way to pronounce them, for example, ''tr'' and ''ch'' (''tr'' sounds like ''ch'')..., but most notably ''v'' are the same, ''r'' and ''d'' (''v'' sounds like ''d''). I'm no expert in Central Vietnamese, however.
and ''gi'' are often pronounced very similarly or with little difference, depends on the province.
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There is a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing American English with British English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
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There is a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing American English with British English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way).way, to the point that the accent is considered inherently funny). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
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There are a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing British English with American English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
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There are is a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing British American English with American British English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
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Vietnam. If you're a foreigner: No, not [[VietnamWar the war]], but the S-shaped country that hugs the east coast of Indochina. South of China, East of Thailand and Cambodia. Historically part of [[FarEast East Asia]], it is now starting to resemble its Southeast Asian neighbors in terms of economy and culture.
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Vietnam, if you're a
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Anyway, after the [[VietnamWar War]], Vietnam was still screwed. Massive economic problems followed the collectivization of farms and factories (the communist state took over private ownership of them and declared they belonged to the State, without appropriate repayment). Of course, the rationing of food and goods were followed, since people got the same amount of stuff however hard they worked, they couldn't be bothered to work anymore. Those who remained working producing useless goods that people never wanted to pay for, and inflation followed like a tornado, '''''TRIPLE-DIGIT'''''. There was also humanitarian problems, with the communists trying to prosecute those who supported the previous government. Anyway, massive number of people fled the country in crudely built boats, becoming the Vietnamese Boat People that are distributed around Australia, United States and other countries today.
There were also periods of war. The Khmer Rouge massacred quite a lot of Vietnameses and razed the villages bordering them. In 1978, it removed the Khmer Rouge from power and ruled over Cambodia until 1989. China wasn't pleased, so the following year (1979), it launched a brief invasion into North Vietnam (the Sino-Vietnamese War).
The history is followed in the Politics and Economy part.
There were also periods of war. The Khmer Rouge massacred quite a lot of Vietnameses and razed the villages bordering them. In 1978, it removed the Khmer Rouge from power and ruled over Cambodia until 1989. China wasn't pleased, so the following year (1979), it launched a brief invasion into North Vietnam (the Sino-Vietnamese War).
The history is followed in the Politics and Economy part.
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Yet, unlucky for Vietnam, it didn't get any chance to enjoy its hard-earned peace, because the French came again. Originally created to fight the Japanese forces and restore its rule over Indochina, the French Far East Expedition Corps soon fought with Vietnam again from 20th, November 1946. Vietnam was backed up by China and Soviet Russia, and put up quite a fight, but with greater losses. The ''Siege of Điện Biên Phủ'' in March-May 1954 became a historic battle, caused by a blunder by the French, who didn't expect the Vietnamese to have heavy artillery and to be able to move those weapons in difficult terrain. The French lost around 23,000 of its personnel (captured or killed), which was a third of its total loss. A ceasefire was negotiated and the Geneva Accords were agreed to, which dissolved French administration over Vietnam and withdrew French personnel. However, it also split the country into two part, North and South Vietnam, with North Vietnam under Communist rule of Ho Chi Minh, and South Vietnam under the rule of Bảo Đại, the current descendant of the Nguyễn Dynasty (they're still existing? Yeah). And thus, the background for VietnamWar was set up.
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Yet, unlucky for Vietnam, it didn't get any chance to enjoy its hard-earned peace, because the French came again. Originally created to fight the Japanese forces and restore its rule over Indochina, the French Far East Expedition Corps soon fought with Vietnam again from 20th, November 1946. Vietnam was backed up by China and Soviet Russia, and put up quite a fight, but with greater losses. The ''Siege of Điện Biên Phủ'' in March-May 1954 became a historic battle, caused by a blunder by the French, who didn't expect the Vietnamese to have heavy artillery and to be able to move those weapons in difficult terrain. The French lost around 23,000 of its personnel (captured or killed), which was a third of its total loss. A ceasefire was negotiated and the Geneva Accords were agreed to, which dissolved French administration over Vietnam and withdrew French personnel. However, it also split the country into two part, North and South Vietnam, with North Vietnam under Communist rule of Ho Chi Minh, and South Vietnam under the rule of Bảo Đại, the current descendant of the Nguyễn Dynasty (they're still existing? Yeah). And thus, the background for VietnamWar was set up.
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In 938 AD, a Vietnamese Lord named Ngô Quyền finally defeated the Chinese, and reclaimed independence. The following centuries saw a golden age for the nation, with culture flourishing under the rule of the Lý and Trần dynasties. The change in the family in rule was often because the descendants of the family became gradually worse in both moral and control of the country. Nevertheless, Vietnam still grew quite a bit. Buddhism took over Confucianism as the state religion. Vietnam also was able to repel the Mongol invasions around the 13th century (pretty good, eh?).
Vietnam's independence was interrupted for a short period of 20 years in the early 15th century, but was restored by Lê Lợi, who would go down Vietnamese history to become one of its greatest national heroes, with legends and myths surrounding his battles and rule over Vietnam. It was during this period that Vietnam reached its zenith, with firm establishment of the law and government, and was a crucial period in its expansion towards the south, which was controlled by the Khmer Empire and is now South Vietnam of today.
However, as the Lê dynasty weakened, civil strife became frequent in Vietnam, resulted in multiple changes of dynasties. Eventually, at the beginning of 19th century, stability finally returned with the establishment of the Nguyễn Dynasty, with the help of the French in defeating the remnants of those in power back then.
Of course, the French didn't help for nothing. The Nguyễn's control was gradually eroded by the French, and eventually, after a series of fighting, France took control of Vietnam and surrounding countries to establish French Indochina. It began to westernize the country, establishing French as the official language in education and government, and gradually converting the old Chinese-like ''Nôm'' writing system to the alphabet as seen today. It established a plantation economy that would exist until today, with focus on tobacco, tea, coffee... Ostensibly though, the Nguyễn Dynasty was still in control, but that didn't fool anyone. Waves of nationalist movements emerged, with leaders usually who studied in foreign countries and came back to push for political freedom. However, resistances were quickly broken. The French maintained control over Vietnam...
...until World War II, when Japan invaded French Indochina in 1941. Of course, France sucked at that period, and Japan soon took over. The Japanese, being what they were back at that period, exploited Vietnam's resources without qualms to fight the British colonies nearby, which would later cause the Vietnamese Famine of 1945, which killed 10% of the population back then (2 million). 1941 was also the year where the ''Việt Minh'' was established, which was a communist and nationalist liberation movement, led by Ho Chi Minh of course. Following the defeat of Japan in WWII, Viet Minh quickly took over Hanoi and proclaimed a provisional government, which declared independence on the 2nd of September, 1945.
Yet, unlucky for Vietnam, it didn't get any chance to enjoy its hard-earned peace, because the French came again. Originally created to fight the Japanese forces and restore its rule over Indochina, the French Far East Expedition Corps soon fought with Vietnam again from 20th, November 1946. Vietnam was backed up by China and Soviet Russia, and put up quite a fight, but with greater losses. The ''Siege of Điện Biên Phủ'' in March-May 1954 became a historic battle, caused by a blunder by the French, who didn't expect the Vietnamese to have heavy artillery and to be able to move those weapons in difficult terrain. The French lost around 23,000 of its personnel (captured or killed), which was a third of its total loss. A ceasefire was negotiated and the Geneva Accords were agreed to, which dissolved French administration over Vietnam and withdrew French personnel. However, it also split the country into two part, North and South Vietnam, with North Vietnam under Communist rule of Ho Chi Minh, and South Vietnam under the rule of Bảo Đại, the current descendant of the Nguyễn Dynasty (they're still existing? Yeah). And thus, the background for VietnamWar was set up.
Vietnam's independence was interrupted for a short period of 20 years in the early 15th century, but was restored by Lê Lợi, who would go down Vietnamese history to become one of its greatest national heroes, with legends and myths surrounding his battles and rule over Vietnam. It was during this period that Vietnam reached its zenith, with firm establishment of the law and government, and was a crucial period in its expansion towards the south, which was controlled by the Khmer Empire and is now South Vietnam of today.
However, as the Lê dynasty weakened, civil strife became frequent in Vietnam, resulted in multiple changes of dynasties. Eventually, at the beginning of 19th century, stability finally returned with the establishment of the Nguyễn Dynasty, with the help of the French in defeating the remnants of those in power back then.
Of course, the French didn't help for nothing. The Nguyễn's control was gradually eroded by the French, and eventually, after a series of fighting, France took control of Vietnam and surrounding countries to establish French Indochina. It began to westernize the country, establishing French as the official language in education and government, and gradually converting the old Chinese-like ''Nôm'' writing system to the alphabet as seen today. It established a plantation economy that would exist until today, with focus on tobacco, tea, coffee... Ostensibly though, the Nguyễn Dynasty was still in control, but that didn't fool anyone. Waves of nationalist movements emerged, with leaders usually who studied in foreign countries and came back to push for political freedom. However, resistances were quickly broken. The French maintained control over Vietnam...
...until World War II, when Japan invaded French Indochina in 1941. Of course, France sucked at that period, and Japan soon took over. The Japanese, being what they were back at that period, exploited Vietnam's resources without qualms to fight the British colonies nearby, which would later cause the Vietnamese Famine of 1945, which killed 10% of the population back then (2 million). 1941 was also the year where the ''Việt Minh'' was established, which was a communist and nationalist liberation movement, led by Ho Chi Minh of course. Following the defeat of Japan in WWII, Viet Minh quickly took over Hanoi and proclaimed a provisional government, which declared independence on the 2nd of September, 1945.
Yet, unlucky for Vietnam, it didn't get any chance to enjoy its hard-earned peace, because the French came again. Originally created to fight the Japanese forces and restore its rule over Indochina, the French Far East Expedition Corps soon fought with Vietnam again from 20th, November 1946. Vietnam was backed up by China and Soviet Russia, and put up quite a fight, but with greater losses. The ''Siege of Điện Biên Phủ'' in March-May 1954 became a historic battle, caused by a blunder by the French, who didn't expect the Vietnamese to have heavy artillery and to be able to move those weapons in difficult terrain. The French lost around 23,000 of its personnel (captured or killed), which was a third of its total loss. A ceasefire was negotiated and the Geneva Accords were agreed to, which dissolved French administration over Vietnam and withdrew French personnel. However, it also split the country into two part, North and South Vietnam, with North Vietnam under Communist rule of Ho Chi Minh, and South Vietnam under the rule of Bảo Đại, the current descendant of the Nguyễn Dynasty (they're still existing? Yeah). And thus, the background for VietnamWar was set up.
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* Huế, once seat of Vietnam's last royal dynasty. It has a small Forbidden City modeled faithfully after the one in Peking.
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* Huế, once seat of Vietnam's last royal dynasty. It has a small Forbidden City modeled faithfully after the one in Peking. Has a reputation for courtliness and old-fashioned classical elegance.
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Vietnamese uses the alphabet system rather than scripts like Chinese or Japanese, though it used to use written classical Chinese until the 13th century when a different system, but still quite similar to Chinese writing system, called Chữ Nôm was invented. Chữ Nôm developed until it was used extensively in 17th - 19th century. Although Vietnamese was the native language, education, government, literature used Chinese as the official language. Around 17th century, an alphabet system was developed in order to facilitate trade from Western countries, by a Portuguese priest called Alexander de Rhodes. As the French invaded Vietnam in the late 19th century, French gradually replaced Chinese as the official language in education and government. Alphabet system pervaded the country, and Chinese scripts were gradually abolished. After gaining independence from France, Vietnam officially decided to use the alphabet as its writing system. Which was a shame really, considering that Chinese would be quite useful nowadays.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid.
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Vietnamese uses the alphabet system rather than scripts like Chinese or Japanese, though it used to use written classical Chinese until the 13th century when a different system, but still quite similar to Chinese writing system, called Chữ Nôm ''Chữ Nôm'' was invented. Chữ Nôm ''Chữ Nôm'' developed until it was used extensively in 17th - 19th century. Although Vietnamese was the native language, education, government, literature education and government used Chinese as the official language. Around 17th century, an alphabet system was developed in order to facilitate trade from Western countries, by a Portuguese priest called Alexander de Rhodes. As the French invaded Vietnam in the late 19th century, French gradually replaced Chinese as the official language in education and government. Alphabet system pervaded the country, and Chinese scripts were gradually abolished. After gaining independence from France, Vietnam officially decided to use the alphabet as its writing system. Which was a shame really, considering that Chinese would be quite useful nowadays.
nowadays, but of course nationalism prevailed at the time.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid. \n Consonant, vowel, diphthong or triphthong sound the same in every word, hence it is only the matter of recognizing them. If you can recognize and remember all of the possible consonants and vowels (and diphthongs and triphthongs), which aren't that many, then reading a word out loud is just a matter of combining them together. Grade One in Vietnam is spent learning all those possible consonants, vowels, diphthong and triphthong. On the other hand, the tones might pose difficulties for foreign speakers - they almost can never get them right. Since reading a word out loud is quite easy, so is spelling - though some diphthongs/triphthongs might sound the same like ''ân'' and ''âng'' (almost any triphthong formed by putting a ''g'' after a diphthong will sound essentially the same as that diphthong - Vietnamese native speakers do not pronounce out the last ''g'' like an English speakers would).
There are a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing British English with American English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
A few phonetic peculiarities will be listed here. Like ''l'' and ''r'' in Japanese, Northern Vietnamese speakers will often mess up between ''l'' and ''n'', but not for the same reason. ''l'' and ''n'' are supposed to be distinct in Vietnamese, but because of the Northern accent and general sloppiness, they often turn out to sound the same. Southern and Central speakers will not ever make the same mistake. In Southern Vietnamese, because of its sloppiness, there is a lot of mess up, like between ''r'' and ''g'' (with all ''r'' sounds like ''g''), ''tr'' and ''ch'' (''tr'' sounds like ''ch'')..., but most notably ''v'' and ''d'' (''v'' sounds like ''d''). I'm no expert in Central Vietnamese, however.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid.
There are a bit of differences in Vietnamese spoken by Northern Vietnamese (around Hanoi), North-Central Vietnamese (between Hue and Hanoi), Central Vietnamese (around Hue) and Southern Vietnamese (around Ho Chi Minh City, or Saigon), not only in the accents (which are quite distinct and readily recognizable by foreigners) but also in vocabulary and grammar, to the point where they might be considered as separate dialects. To talk in details will be too much for TvTrope, but generally, Southern Vietnamese will be sloppier in pronunciation and grammar than Northern Vietnamese (like comparing British English with American English for example). The North-Central and Central Vietnamese, well, good luck with that. The basic vocabulary and the accent are so distinct that even native speakers from the North and the South will have ''considerable'' difficulty in understanding them, or might not understand them at all if they speak rapidly (which leads to many, many jokes involving Central Vietnamese speakers by the way). The distinct difference in Central Vietnamese might be explained by the fact that the region was settled much earlier comparing to the South and able to developed a distinct dialect. The region is also much more conservative, and emigration and immigration are rare which prevents the dialect to be influenced or influence the Northern and Southern counterparts. Northern Vietnamese is considered as the official form, and is presented in textbooks, political propagandas, literature and music, however, outside of Vietnam, Southern variation will often be heard instead (because most refugees from Vietnam came from the South, and overseas students are often from the South because it is richer than the other two regions). Within regions, there are also further variations.
A few phonetic peculiarities will be listed here. Like ''l'' and ''r'' in Japanese, Northern Vietnamese speakers will often mess up between ''l'' and ''n'', but not for the same reason. ''l'' and ''n'' are supposed to be distinct in Vietnamese, but because of the Northern accent and general sloppiness, they often turn out to sound the same. Southern and Central speakers will not ever make the same mistake. In Southern Vietnamese, because of its sloppiness, there is a lot of mess up, like between ''r'' and ''g'' (with all ''r'' sounds like ''g''), ''tr'' and ''ch'' (''tr'' sounds like ''ch'')..., but most notably ''v'' and ''d'' (''v'' sounds like ''d''). I'm no expert in Central Vietnamese, however.
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Fish is often the cheapest and eaten the most, then 'river'food (as opposed to seafood) and then pork . Chicken are more expensive, and often eaten in special occasion. Beef are the most expensive, and more often than not only eaten in restaurants rather than at home. There are also a wide range of vegetarian foods based on tofu, with many types of tofu, allowing very creative vegetarian meals that can replace normal meals permanently if a person so wishes.
There are regional variations in Vietnamese cuisine. Northern Vietnamese are often not bold with flavor, orienting towards a light and balanced flavors for most of its meal, consequently, these meals are often considered as bland by the Southern and Central people. Northern Vietnamese produce many signature dishes of Vietnam, such as ''phở''. Central Vietnamese food is often readily recognized by its spiciness and very elaborate meals, representing its royal past. Southern Vietnamese food are often vibrant with flavor and tend to be sweet. There is also a widespread use of coconut milk, and sauces like fish sauces or soy sauces. ''Phở'' regional variations often represented general regional variations. Northern ''phở'' flavor is quite mild, and Northern Vietnamese do not put in much additions like vegetables or sauces, Central ''phở'' is often quite spicy whereas Southern ''phở'' will opt for a sweet taste, with a lot of vegetables and sauces additions. ''Phở'' outside of Vietnam often is the Southern variation.
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Vietnamese uses the alphabet system rather than scripts like Chinese or Japanese, though it used to use written classical Chinese until the 13th century when a different system, but still quite similar to Chinese writing system, called Chữ Nôm was invented. Chữ Nôm developed until it was used extensively in 17th - 19th century. Although Vietnamese was the native language, education, government, literature used Chinese as the official language. Around 17th century, an alphabet system was developed in order to facilitate trade from Western countries, by a Portuguese priest called Alexander de Rhodes. As the French invaded Vietnam in the late 19th century, French gradually replaced Chinese as the official language in education and government. Alphabet system pervaded the country, and Chinese scripts were gradually abolished. After gaining independence from France, Vietnam officially decided to use the alphabet as its writing system. Which was a shame really, considering that Chinese would be quite useful nowadays.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid.
Vietnamese, like many other Asian languages, features tones in its phonology. There are only five tones, ''level'', ''hanging'', ''sharp'', ''asking'', ''tumbling'' and ''heavy''. The good thing about Vietnamese phonology is that there is nothing such as exceptions. The rules are rigid.
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* Elly Tran Ha, an American-born Vietnamese teen model, who is quite well-endowed for an Asian and frequently appears on advertisement for porn sites, even though she has not even posed nude.
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* Elly Tran Ha, an American-born Vietnamese teen model, who is quite well-endowed for an Asian and Asian. Notable in that she frequently appears on advertisement advertisements for porn sites, even though she has not even posed nude.
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* Eugene Huu-Chau Trinh, a biochemist, Director of the Physical Sciences Research Division in the Biological and Physical Research Enterprise at NASA.
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* Nguyen Ngoc Truong Son, a chess player who attained grandmaster rank at the age of 14.
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* Ngo Bao Chau, a mathematician at the University of Chicago who won the 2010 Field Medals.
* Elly Tran Ha, an American-born Vietnamese teen model, who is quite well-endowed for an Asian and frequently appears on advertisement for porn sites, even though she has not even posed nude.
* Duong Nguyet Anh, a chemical engineer, Director of Science and Technology of Naval Surface Warfare Center, U.S. Department of Defense, responsible for the creation of Thermobaric Weapon and a National Security Medallist.
* Phillip Rosler, physician, Federal Minister of Health of Germany. He was born in Vietnam and adopted by a German couple when he was still an infant.
* Le Duc Tho, a Vietnamese diplomat and politician who negotiated the Paris Peace Accord (which ended direct involvement of America in Vietnam War) with President Henry Kissinger and won a Nobel Peace Prize along with Kissinger for it. He chose to decline the Prize however, stating that there was still no peace in his country.
* Eugene Huu-Chau Trinh, a biochemist, Director of the Physical Sciences Research Division in the Biological and Physical Research Enterprise at NASA.
* Nam Le, a Vietnamese-born Australian writer, winner of the 2008 Dylan Thomas Prize for his book "The Boat".
* Minh Le, Vietnamese-Canadian, software engineer, co-creator of the Half-life mod CounterStrike.
* Carol Huynh, Vietnamese-Canadian, 2008 Summer Olympics Gold Medallist for woman wrestling.
* Katsuni, half French, half Vietnamese pornographic actress.
* Ho Chi Minh
* Ngo Bao Chau, a mathematician at the University of Chicago who won the 2010 Field Medals.
* Elly Tran Ha, an American-born Vietnamese teen model, who is quite well-endowed for an Asian and frequently appears on advertisement for porn sites, even though she has not even posed nude.
* Duong Nguyet Anh, a chemical engineer, Director of Science and Technology of Naval Surface Warfare Center, U.S. Department of Defense, responsible for the creation of Thermobaric Weapon and a National Security Medallist.
* Phillip Rosler, physician, Federal Minister of Health of Germany. He was born in Vietnam and adopted by a German couple when he was still an infant.
* Le Duc Tho, a Vietnamese diplomat and politician who negotiated the Paris Peace Accord (which ended direct involvement of America in Vietnam War) with President Henry Kissinger and won a Nobel Peace Prize along with Kissinger for it. He chose to decline the Prize however, stating that there was still no peace in his country.
* Eugene Huu-Chau Trinh, a biochemist, Director of the Physical Sciences Research Division in the Biological and Physical Research Enterprise at NASA.
* Nam Le, a Vietnamese-born Australian writer, winner of the 2008 Dylan Thomas Prize for his book "The Boat".
* Minh Le, Vietnamese-Canadian, software engineer, co-creator of the Half-life mod CounterStrike.
* Carol Huynh, Vietnamese-Canadian, 2008 Summer Olympics Gold Medallist for woman wrestling.
* Katsuni, half French, half Vietnamese pornographic actress.
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To start it off, Vietnamese people have a creation myth involving Lạc Long Quân, the Dragon Lord of Lac Viet. Having [[RatedMForManly battled monsters here and there]], he [[InterSpeciesRomance settled down]] with Âu Cơ, the [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairy]] [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses princess]] of Âc Việt. She gave birth to a sac with 100 eggs inside, which hatched into 100 children. Because of the couple's insurmountable differences, their marriage didn't work out and they had to split the family. Half the kids would follow their father to the sea where he ought to live, the rest stayed with Âu Cơ in the dry, hilly land and founded a kingdom. [[OpeningNarration And thus]] resulted the Bách Việt people, Văn Lang the first Viet nation and [[MurderArsonAndJayWalking the first known divorce in Vietnamese history]]. Modern Vietnamese still call themselves "con rồng cháu tiên", or "children of the dragon, grandchildren of fairies''. Pretty convenient if you want to forge a common identity for a genetic goulash.
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To start it off, Vietnamese people have a creation myth involving Lạc Long Quân, the Dragon Lord of Lac Viet. Having [[RatedMForManly battled monsters here and there]], he [[InterSpeciesRomance settled down]] with Âu Cơ, the [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairy]] [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses princess]] of Âc Âu Việt. She gave birth to a sac with 100 eggs inside, which hatched into 100 children. Because of the couple's insurmountable differences, their marriage didn't work out and they had to split the family. Half the kids would follow their father to the sea where he ought to live, the rest stayed with Âu Cơ in the dry, hilly land and founded a kingdom. [[OpeningNarration And thus]] resulted the Bách Việt people, Văn Lang the first Viet nation and [[MurderArsonAndJayWalking the first known divorce in Vietnamese history]]. Modern Vietnamese still call themselves "con rồng cháu tiên", or "children of the dragon, grandchildren of fairies''. Pretty convenient if you want to forge a common identity for a genetic goulash.
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In 1986, when destitute Vietnam was near the verge of collapse, a progressive faction in the Communist party rose to power and implemented a course of economic reform called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doi_Moi Renovation]], similar to what Deng Xiaoping did to China eight years earlier. Vietnam thus ceased to be a CommieLand in the strict sense of the term, and nowadays it's a young market economy with rather shaky macroeconomic conditions, dictated by a one-party regime which is in fact an oligarchy. Members of the politburo are thus NeutralEvil heads of a PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny. Their relatives (or even themselves) are [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corrupt Corporate Executives]] of the very keystone corporations in Vietnam, while the people working for the government for paycheck are unabashedly [[ObstructiveBureaucrat obstructive bureaucrats]].
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In 1986, when destitute Vietnam was near the verge of collapse, a progressive faction in the Communist party rose to power and implemented a course of economic reform called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doi_Moi Renovation]], similar to what Deng Xiaoping did to China eight years earlier. Vietnam thus ceased to be a CommieLand in the strict sense of the term, and nowadays it's a young market economy with rather shaky macroeconomic conditions, dictated by a one-party regime which is in fact an oligarchy. Members of the politburo are thus NeutralEvil heads of a PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny. Their relatives (or even themselves) are [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corrupt Corporate Executives]] of the very keystone corporations in Vietnam, while the people working for the government for paycheck are unabashedly [[ObstructiveBureaucrat obstructive bureaucrats]].
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The other trope refers to only St Petersburg.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. Founded as ''Gia Định'' in 1690, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs [[PleaseSelectNewCityName or Hochiminh Ho Chi Minh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. Founded as ''Gia Định'' in 1690, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seem to be being [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seem to be being [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Hanoi recently celebrated [[LongRunners its 1000th anniversary]]. It is often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]], and sometimes referred to as ''Thăng Long'' ([[AwesomeMcCoolName "Ascending Dragon"]]), the most iconic among its older names.
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Hanoi recently celebrated [[LongRunners its 1000th anniversary]]. It is often Often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]], and sometimes referred to as ''Thăng Long'' ([[AwesomeMcCoolName "Ascending Dragon"]]), the most iconic among its older names.
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Nha Trang is home to beautiful beaches that now seem to be being [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Nha Trang is home Home to beautiful beaches that now seem to be being [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* The "Vietnam Special" TopGear episode deserves special mention.
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* The "Vietnam Special" TopGear ''TopGear'' episode deserves special mention.
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* Huế, once seat of Vietnam's last royal dynasty. Has a small Forbidden City modeled faithfully after the one in Peking.
* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seem [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seem [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* Huế, once seat of Vietnam's last royal dynasty. Has It has a small Forbidden City modeled faithfully after the one in Peking.
* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike.Home Nha Trang is home to beautiful beaches that now seem to be being [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike.
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Vietnam has a love-hate relationship with its big Northern neighbor cum traditional enemy China. On one hand, its regime looks up to the PRC as the last remaining ideological reassurance. Yet, relations between the two have never been truly friendly. The Sino-Vietnamese war of 1979 is still remembered, and sorest points of contention nowadays include possession of the Spratly and Paracel Islands and how China is taking over bauxite mining activities in Vietnam, not to mention long-standing border disputes. All seems to fuel the fear that [[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld China is about to take over the world]], or at least Asia, and she would start with Vietnam.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpower having messed up this land just 35 years ago]]? Nice and tight rope Vietnam's walking there.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpower having messed up this land just 35 years ago]]? Nice and tight rope Vietnam's walking there.
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Vietnam has a love-hate relationship with its big Northern neighbor cum ''cum'' traditional enemy China. On one hand, its regime looks up to the PRC as the last remaining ideological reassurance. Yet, relations between the two have never been truly friendly. The Sino-Vietnamese war of 1979 is still remembered, and sorest points of contention nowadays include possession of the Spratly and Paracel Islands and how China is China's taking over bauxite mining activities in Vietnam, not to mention long-standing border disputes. All seems to fuel the fear that [[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld China is about to take over the world]], or at least Asia, and she would start with Vietnam.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpowerhaving that messed up this land just 35 years ago]]? Nice and tight rope tightrope Vietnam's walking there.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpower
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Those living where the anti-communist diaspora has a strong presence might see Vietnamese people display instead the flag of the former South Vietnam, left, now officially "The Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag" in some states of America. Do so in Vietnam and you will run into serious trouble with the law and the regime, for obvious reasons.
Similarly, the socialist republic flag is an excellent FlameBait to the South Vietnamese diaspora.
In short, both can put you in [[SeriousBusiness grave danger]] if you display them in the wrong place.
Similarly, the socialist republic flag is an excellent FlameBait to the South Vietnamese diaspora.
In short, both can put you in [[SeriousBusiness grave danger]] if you display them in the wrong place.
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Those living where the anti-communist diaspora has a strong presence might see Vietnamese people display instead the flag of the former South Vietnam, left, now officially "The Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag" in some states of America. Do so in Vietnam and you will run into serious trouble with the law and the regime, for obvious reasons.
reasons. Similarly, the socialist republic flag is an excellent FlameBait to the South Vietnamese diaspora.
diaspora. In short, both can put you in [[SeriousBusiness grave danger]] if you display them in the wrong place.
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There are officially 54 ethnic groups that call Vietnam home, but over 80% of Vietnam's population is made up of lowland Viets, or Kinh people, so if you ever meet a Vietnamese, big chances are you're meeting a Kinh.
The next largest group is the Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese. Like Chinese Malaysians and Chinese folks elsewhere in Southeast Asia, most of them are descended from people in Southern China who emigrated two or three centuries ago. Close to half of the Hoa fled Vietnam during the flare-up between Vietnam and China in 1979 to escape the violent hatred towards ethnic Chinese, but many still remain till this day. For this reason, they're much better presented in overseas communities than in Vietnam itself. In Southern parts of the country they are known colloquially as "Tàu" people, short for "Ba Tàu", meaning "three-shippers" - as the tale goes, they first came here on three big ships which formed distinctive silhouettes against the horizon. Quite a lot of Hoa's take offence to this word, [[DoubleStandard unless you're a Hoa yourself]].
The next largest group is the Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese. Like Chinese Malaysians and Chinese folks elsewhere in Southeast Asia, most of them are descended from people in Southern China who emigrated two or three centuries ago. Close to half of the Hoa fled Vietnam during the flare-up between Vietnam and China in 1979 to escape the violent hatred towards ethnic Chinese, but many still remain till this day. For this reason, they're much better presented in overseas communities than in Vietnam itself. In Southern parts of the country they are known colloquially as "Tàu" people, short for "Ba Tàu", meaning "three-shippers" - as the tale goes, they first came here on three big ships which formed distinctive silhouettes against the horizon. Quite a lot of Hoa's take offence to this word, [[DoubleStandard unless you're a Hoa yourself]].
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There are officially 54 ethnic groups that call Vietnam home, but over 80% of Vietnam's population is made up of lowland Viets, or Kinh people, so if you ever meet a Vietnamese, big chances are you're meeting a Kinh.
The next largest group is the Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese. Like Chinese Malaysians and Chinese folks elsewhere in Southeast Asia, most of them are descended from people in Southern China who emigrated two or three centuries ago. Close to half of the Hoa fled Vietnam during the flare-up between Vietnam and China in 1979 to escape the violent hatred towards ethnic Chinese, but many still remain till this day. For this reason, they're much better presented in overseas communities than in Vietnam itself. In Southern parts of the country they are known colloquially as "Tàu" people, short for "Ba Tàu", meaning "three-shippers" - as the tale goes, they first came here on three big ships which formed distinctive silhouettes against the horizon. Quite a lot of Hoa's take offence to this word,[[DoubleStandard [[NWordPrivileges unless you're a Hoa yourself]].
The next largest group is the Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese. Like Chinese Malaysians and Chinese folks elsewhere in Southeast Asia, most of them are descended from people in Southern China who emigrated two or three centuries ago. Close to half of the Hoa fled Vietnam during the flare-up between Vietnam and China in 1979 to escape the violent hatred towards ethnic Chinese, but many still remain till this day. For this reason, they're much better presented in overseas communities than in Vietnam itself. In Southern parts of the country they are known colloquially as "Tàu" people, short for "Ba Tàu", meaning "three-shippers" - as the tale goes, they first came here on three big ships which formed distinctive silhouettes against the horizon. Quite a lot of Hoa's take offence to this word,
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* French movies like ''Indochine'' and ''L'Amant'' take place in early 20th century Vietnam.
* Then flash forward about 40 years and you have TheQuietAmerican.
* Vietnamese criminal activities in Australia are concerned in Aussie flicks like ''Romper Stomper'' and ''Little Fish'', starring Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett respectively.
* Then flash forward about 40 years and you have TheQuietAmerican.
* Vietnamese criminal activities in Australia are concerned in Aussie flicks like ''Romper Stomper'' and ''Little Fish'', starring Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett respectively.
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* French movies like ''Indochine'' and ''L'Amant'' that take place in early 20th century Vietnam.
* Then flash forward about 40 years and you haveTheQuietAmerican.
''TheQuietAmerican''.
* Vietnamese criminal activities in Australia areconcerned dealt with in Aussie flicks like ''Romper Stomper'' and ''Little Fish'', starring Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett respectively.
* Then flash forward about 40 years and you have
* Vietnamese criminal activities in Australia are
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* For works concerning the VietnamWar, please go to that page.
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* For works concerning the VietnamWar, please go to see that page.
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In 1986, when destitute Vietnam was near the verge of collapse, a progressive faction in the Communist party rose to power and implemented a course of economic reform called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doi_Moi Renovation]], similar to what Deng Xiaoping did to China eight years earlier. Vietnam thus ceased to be a CommieLand in the strict sense of the term, and nowadays it's a young market economy with rather shaky macroeconomic conditions, dictated by a one-party regime which is in actuality an oligarchy. Government propaganda still centers on Marxism-Leninism, but of course, InNameOnly. As in the case of China, most people can be described as "apolitical" - if you're not a supporter of the regime, that's the only safe way to go about it.
Inflation is pretty [[http://www.indexmundi.com/vietnam/inflation_rate_%28consumer_prices%29.html rampant]], and as of 2010, [[ItGotWorse getting worse]].
Inflation is pretty [[http://www.indexmundi.com/vietnam/inflation_rate_%28consumer_prices%29.html rampant]], and as of 2010, [[ItGotWorse getting worse]].
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In 1986, when destitute Vietnam was near the verge of collapse, a progressive faction in the Communist party rose to power and implemented a course of economic reform called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doi_Moi Renovation]], similar to what Deng Xiaoping did to China eight years earlier. Vietnam thus ceased to be a CommieLand in the strict sense of the term, and nowadays it's a young market economy with rather shaky macroeconomic conditions, dictated by a one-party regime which is in actuality fact an oligarchy. Members of the politburo are thus NeutralEvil heads of a PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny. Their relatives (or even themselves) are [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corrupt Corporate Executives]] of the very keystone corporations in Vietnam, while the people working for the government for paycheck are unabashedly [[ObstructiveBureaucrat obstructive bureaucrats]].
Government propaganda still centers on Marxism-Leninism, but of course, InNameOnly. As in the case of China, most people can be described as "apolitical" - if you're not a supporter of the regime, that's the only safe way to go about it.
Inflation The high growth rate of the economy, among the highest on Earth, is pretty accompanied by [[http://www.indexmundi.com/vietnam/inflation_rate_%28consumer_prices%29.html rampant]], pretty rampant inflation]], and as of 2010, [[ItGotWorse getting worse]].
worse]]. Fun fact: Previously, to combat this threat, our [[SarcasmMode beloved and glorious]] government decided to [[EpicFail cut down the official interest rate]]- because in their logic, doing so would ease the borrowing costs for companies (especially for government-controlled companies), [[YouFailEconomicsForever which should lead to a lower price level]]. HilarityEnsues.
Government propaganda still centers on Marxism-Leninism, but of course, InNameOnly. As in the case of China, most people can be described as "apolitical" - if you're not a supporter of the regime, that's the only safe way to go about it.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]]. Founded as ''Gia Định'' in 1690, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]].city. Founded as ''Gia Định'' in 1690, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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-->"[[GoodMorningVietnam "GOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!"]]"
-->''Việt Nam, Hồ Chí Minh, Việt Nam, Hồ Chí Minh...''\\
- For you own good, make sure you're in Vietnam before singing it to a Vietnamese.
-->''Việt Nam, Hồ Chí Minh, Việt Nam, Hồ Chí Minh...''\\
- For you own good, make sure you're in Vietnam before singing it to a Vietnamese.
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Hanoi recently celebrated [[LongRunners its 1000th anniversary]]. It is often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]].
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]]. A little more than 300 years of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]]. A little more than 300 years of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Hanoi recently celebrated [[LongRunners its 1000th anniversary]]. It is often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]].
Pagoda]], and sometimes referred to as ''Thăng Long'' ([[AwesomeMcCoolName "Ascending Dragon"]]), the most iconic among its older names.
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]].A little more than 300 years of age, Founded as ''Gia Định'' in 1690, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]].
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seems [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
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* Nha Trang - a coastal resort town popular with local Vietnamese, returning overseas Vietnamese and non-Viet foreigners alike. Home to beautiful beaches that now seems seem [[http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1988660 ruined by spurious, uncontrolled development]].
[[DarkAndTroubledPast Dark and troubled]], to say the least.
To start it off, Vietnamese people have a creation myth involving Lạc Long Quân, the Dragon Lord of Lac Viet. Having [[RatedMForManly battled monsters here and there]], he [[InterSpeciesRomance settled down]] with Âu Cơ, the [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairy]] [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses princess]] of Âc Việt. She gave birth to a sac with 100 eggs inside, which hatched into 100 children. Because of the couple's insurmountable differences, their marriage didn't work out and they had to split the family. Half the kids would follow their father to the sea where he ought to live, the rest stayed with Âu Cơ in the dry, hilly land and founded a kingdom. [[OpeningNarration And thus]] resulted the Bách Việt people, Văn Lang the first Viet nation and [[MurderArsonAndJayWalking the first known divorce in Vietnamese history]]. Modern Vietnamese still call themselves "con rồng cháu tiên", or "children of the dragon, grandchildren of fairies''. Pretty convenient if you want to forge a common identity for a genetic goulash.
Myths aside, Vietnam identifies itself with a Bronze Age culture called Đông Sơn, which is best known for its intricate decor motifs on bronze drums. It was from this culture that the state of Văn Lang allegedly arose, and if there's any truth in the creation myth, the dragon-fairy marriage can be interpreted as an alliance of highland and lowland tribes, the seed for what would eventually become Vietnam. Văn Lang was succeeded by Âu Lạc, which in turn was conquered by the Eastern Han Dynasty of China in 111 BC. The following ''millennium'' saw Chinese domination over Vietnam, interspersed by rebellions. (Some of them were led by [[LadyOfWar women]], as expected from a matriarchal culture). But also thanks to the Hans, it's from this point onward that the history of Vietnam was at least recorded.
To start it off, Vietnamese people have a creation myth involving Lạc Long Quân, the Dragon Lord of Lac Viet. Having [[RatedMForManly battled monsters here and there]], he [[InterSpeciesRomance settled down]] with Âu Cơ, the [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairy]] [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses princess]] of Âc Việt. She gave birth to a sac with 100 eggs inside, which hatched into 100 children. Because of the couple's insurmountable differences, their marriage didn't work out and they had to split the family. Half the kids would follow their father to the sea where he ought to live, the rest stayed with Âu Cơ in the dry, hilly land and founded a kingdom. [[OpeningNarration And thus]] resulted the Bách Việt people, Văn Lang the first Viet nation and [[MurderArsonAndJayWalking the first known divorce in Vietnamese history]]. Modern Vietnamese still call themselves "con rồng cháu tiên", or "children of the dragon, grandchildren of fairies''. Pretty convenient if you want to forge a common identity for a genetic goulash.
Myths aside, Vietnam identifies itself with a Bronze Age culture called Đông Sơn, which is best known for its intricate decor motifs on bronze drums. It was from this culture that the state of Văn Lang allegedly arose, and if there's any truth in the creation myth, the dragon-fairy marriage can be interpreted as an alliance of highland and lowland tribes, the seed for what would eventually become Vietnam. Văn Lang was succeeded by Âu Lạc, which in turn was conquered by the Eastern Han Dynasty of China in 111 BC. The following ''millennium'' saw Chinese domination over Vietnam, interspersed by rebellions. (Some of them were led by [[LadyOfWar women]], as expected from a matriarchal culture). But also thanks to the Hans, it's from this point onward that the history of Vietnam was at least recorded.
Vietnam has a love-hate relationship with its big Northern neighbor cum traditional enemy China. On one hand, its regime looks up to the PRC as the last remaining ideological reassurance. Yet, relations between the two have never been truly friendly. The Sino-Vietnamese war of 1979 is still remembered, and sorest points of contention nowadays include possession of the Spratly and Paracel Islands and how China is taking over bauxite mining activities in Vietnam, not to mention long-standing border disputes. All seems to fuel the fear that [[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld China is about to take over the world]], or at least Asia, and she would start with Vietnam.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpower having messed up this land just 35 years ago]]? Nice and tight rope Vietnam's walking there.
Relations with the US are likewise uneasy but have been normalized at a surprising rate since 1986, and now ended up even more cordial than with China, in spite of Washington's constant criticism on the state of human rights in Vietnam. Whether Vietnam will open its military port at Cam Ranh to American port calls is a matter of debate, but it's obvious that Vietnam is looking for a counterweight to the growing China threat. With TheNewRussia swept aside, who could be better suited for the job than [[EagleLand that superpower having messed up this land just 35 years ago]]? Nice and tight rope Vietnam's walking there.
There are also indigenous lowland people in the South and South-Central of Vietnam, like the Chams, an Austronesian people, and the Khmers. Their ancestors boasted prosperous Indianized kingdoms in the past, but their slow decline in the face of ever-southbound Viets has reduced them to insignificant minorities, in both influence and number.
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tran_Anh_Hung Tran Anh Hung]]'s Vietnam Trilogy
* TheQuietAmerican
* The "Vietnam Special" TopGear episode deserves special mention.
* For works concerning the VietnamWar, please go to that page.
* TheQuietAmerican
* The "Vietnam Special" TopGear episode deserves special mention.
* For works concerning the VietnamWar, please go to that page.
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*Then flash forward about 40 years and you have TheQuietAmerican.
*Vietnamese criminal activities in Australia are concerned in Aussie flicks like ''Romper Stomper'' and ''Little Fish'', starring Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett respectively.
*Film/{{Ultra Violet}} the 2006 movie features Vietnamese people in a sci-fi/fantasy setting perhaps for the very first time.
*The "Vietnam Special" TopGear episode deserves special mention.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. A little more than 300 years of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city.city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]]. A little more than 300 years of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Is about 1000 year old. Often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]].
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. A little more than 300 year of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. A little more than 300 year of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Hanoi (Hà Nội) - the capital and second largest city of around 6 million heads, with quite a few lakes and an atmospheric old quarter as its primary trademarks. Is about 1000 year old. Often Hanoi recently celebrated [[LongRunners its 1000th anniversary]]. It is often represented by the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Pillar_Pagoda One Pillar Pagoda]].
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. A little more than 300year years of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city. A little more than 300
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Vietnam. If you're a foreigner: No, not [[VietnamWar the war]], but the S-shaped country that hugs the east coast of Indochina. South of China, East of Thailand and Cambodia. Historically part of [[FarEast East Asia]], now starting to resemble its Southeast Asian neighbors in terms of economy and culture.
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Vietnam. If you're a foreigner: No, not [[VietnamWar the war]], but the S-shaped country that hugs the east coast of Indochina. South of China, East of Thailand and Cambodia. Historically part of [[FarEast East Asia]], it is now starting to resemble its Southeast Asian neighbors in terms of economy and culture.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]]. A little more than 300 year of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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* Saigon (Sài Gòn) [[TheCityFormerlyKnownAs or Hochiminh City on paper]] - the number one economic hub and the largest city, where this troper [[CreatorProvincialism hails from]].city. A little more than 300 year of age, Saigon is rather young by Vietnamese standards. Its actual population, immigrants included, is somewhere near 10 million. Downtown clearly shows French urban planning with wide boulevards flanked by imposing colonial buildings. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Thanh_Market Ben Thanh Market]] can be used as a shorthand for Saigon, and the city has acquired a new [[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/5134077213_e166826c55.jpg phallic symbol]] of late: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitexco_Financial_Tower Bitexco Financial Tower]] - the first true and completed skyscraper of Vietnam, designed by an American studio in New York.
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Hanoi and Saigon are two among the five municipal cities, and currently they are joined by Hải Phòng (quite close to the famed Halong Bay), Đà Nẵng (a deep-water port in Central Vietnam) and Cần Thơ (de-facto capital of the Mekong Delta). There are 59 other provinces as well, but generally what goes on outside Saigon and Hanoi [[BritainIsOnlyLondon doesn't matter that much]] (Hint: They're too poor, too off the internet, and in some case, [[WorldHalfEmpty electricity net]], to get noticed).
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Hanoi and Saigon are two among the five municipal cities, and currently they are joined by Hải Phòng (quite close to the famed Halong Bay), Đà Nẵng (a deep-water port in Central Vietnam) and Cần Thơ (de-facto capital of the Mekong Delta). There are 59 other provinces as well, but generally what goes on outside Saigon and Hanoi [[BritainIsOnlyLondon doesn't matter that much]] (Hint: They're too poor, too off the internet, and and, in some case, cases, [[WorldHalfEmpty electricity net]], insufficiently electrified]] to get noticed).
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Those living where the anti-communist diaspora has a strong presence, you might see Vietnamese people display instead the flag of the former South Vietnam, left, now officially "The Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag" in some states of America. Do so in Vietnam and you will run into serious trouble with the law and the regime, for obvious reasons.
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Those living where the anti-communist diaspora has a strong presence, you presence might see Vietnamese people display instead the flag of the former South Vietnam, left, now officially "The Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag" in some states of America. Do so in Vietnam and you will run into serious trouble with the law and the regime, for obvious reasons.
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As a result, two-third of the population has no memory of the Vietnam War, which explains why Vietnam has moved on so easily.
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As a result, two-third two-thirds of the population has no memory of the Vietnam War, which explains why Vietnam has moved on so easily.
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* [[CaptainObvious A lot of movies from Vietnam that you have never heard of]]
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* [[CaptainObvious A lot of movies from Vietnam that you have probably never heard of]]
