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Trope abuse and trope cleanup. Cut per the Trope Misuse Cleanup Thread. Not an example and trope misuse. Most of the information is headcanon, trope abuse, and completely made up. Link:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13668323470A66010800&page=10#236
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** On the other side of things, ''Mists of Pandaria'' attempts to have a YouBastard moment in the Legendary questline for both the Horde player and the tauren race by having the Alliance Dwarf, High Marshall Twinbraid directly calls out the Horde player for their warlike ways, killing his son and destroying his home. The problem with this is Twinbraid was [[DependingOnTheWriter previously written]] as a GeneralRipper and EvilColonialist with his son being a SociopathicSoldier and his "Home" being a heavily armed fortress built on lands stolen from the natives, natives that both Twinbraid and his son [[FinalSolution murdered out]] of their sheer FantasticRacism. As a result, the Horde player killing Twinbraid in the questline comes across as [[LaserGuidedKarma agents of karma]] delivering a purely deserved KarmicDeath to a [[NeverMyFault self pitying]] war criminal rather than the WhatTheHellHero[=/=]PlayerPunch, the writer of the quest had intended it to be.
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* Penny from ''VideoGame/StardewValley'' has a two-heart event where she helps George get his mail. In it, George is meant to be seen as unnecessarily harsh and rude for snapping at her afterwards. However, given that she pushed his wheelchair out of the way to reach the mailbox (and that he wasn't expecting that, as shown by his surprised reaction as it happens), many physically disabled players found themselves sympathizing more with him instead of her; touching someone's wheelchair or other mobility aid without permission is considered a major faux pas in those circles, particularly because it can and has gotten people injured in real life. While there is an option to tell Penny she should have asked him before helping him, this option gives negative friendship points, while taking Penny's side is considered the positive outcome.
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Silver Hand, the organization of werewolf hunters (and only source of [[SilverBullet silver swords]] in the game) that are the main enemies of the mercenary guild the Companions. The Companions' leadership is composed of werewolves, which naturally makes them a target of the Silver Hand. The Companions themselves paint this as FantasticRacism, but the vast majority of werewolves in Skyrim (read: those that are not Companions or former Companions) are mindless, savage beasts that prey on people, making the Silver Hand's mission less "fanatic hatred" and more "pretty damn justified." They don't seem to know that the Companions are able to retain their sapient mind while transformed and are not the source of feral werewolves, but at no point in the Companions' questline are you able to say "Y'know, they kinda have a point about ferals being a problem."
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Silver Hand, the organization of werewolf hunters (and only source of [[SilverBullet silver swords]] in the game) that are the main enemies of the mercenary guild the Companions. The Companions' leadership is composed of werewolves, which naturally makes them a target of the Silver Hand. The Companions themselves paint this as FantasticRacism, but the vast majority of werewolves in Skyrim (read: those that are not Companions or former Companions) are mindless, savage beasts that prey on people, making the Silver Hand's mission less "fanatic hatred" and more "pretty damn justified." They don't seem to know that the Companions are able to retain their sapient mind while transformed and are not the source of feral werewolves, but at no point in the Companions' questline are you able to say "Y'know, they kinda have a point about ferals being a problem."" Admittedly, when they attack the Companions' base and kill Kodlak, they do cross a line with their actions.
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** Kazuya Mishima actually comes off as this in the grand schemes of things. The games do their best to paint him as little more than a AxCrazy ArrogantKungFuGuy CorruptCorporateExecutive BigBad who is BeyondRedemption and is the devil himself[[note]]It used to be a DemonicPossession, but eventually, he learned to embrace the devil side that he's currently in control of his demonic powers that he's equated as the devil himself[[/note]]. Yet compared to his father Heihachi and by ''Tekken 6'' even his son Jin, Kazuya has actually done comparatively less evil and has much [[TragicVillain better]] [[FreudianExcuse Freudian Excuses]] for his actions than them. ''VideoGame/Tekken7'' even treats his StartOfDarkness as [[InTheBlood inevitable]] since his mother Kazumi was an evil Devil who tried to kill Heihachi, supposedly making Heihachi’s action of [[OffingTheOffspring throwing Kazuya off a cliff as a boy]] justified — which is completely backwards logic as Heihachi didn’t even bother explaining the situation to his grieving son (who just had his mother killed by his father) and explicitly only triggered the Devil Gene in the first place because Heihachi threw him to his death [[spoiler:making Kazuya’s own patricide understandable given Heihachi’s actions]]. And even at his lowest, Kazuya still holds respect for Kazumi and his grandfather Jinpachi, something that Heihachi does not do (while his falling out with Kazumi can be considered tragic, Heihachi absolutely has no good excuse about his antagonism against the more peaceful Jinpachi).
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** Kazuya Mishima actually comes off as this in the grand schemes of things. The games do their best to paint him as little more than a AxCrazy ArrogantKungFuGuy CorruptCorporateExecutive BigBad who is BeyondRedemption and is the devil himself[[note]]It used to be a DemonicPossession, but eventually, he learned to embrace the devil side that he's currently in control of his demonic powers that he's equated as the devil himself[[/note]]. Yet compared to his father Heihachi and by ''Tekken 6'' even his son Jin, Kazuya has actually done comparatively less evil and has much [[TragicVillain better]] [[FreudianExcuse Freudian Excuses]] for his actions than them. ''VideoGame/Tekken7'' even treats his StartOfDarkness as [[InTheBlood inevitable]] since his mother Kazumi was an evil Devil who tried to kill Heihachi, supposedly making Heihachi’s action of [[OffingTheOffspring throwing Kazuya off a cliff as a boy]] justified — which is completely backwards logic as Heihachi didn’t even bother explaining the situation to his grieving son (who just had his mother killed by his father) and explicitly only triggered the Devil Gene in the first place because Heihachi threw him to his death [[spoiler:making Kazuya’s own patricide understandable given Heihachi’s actions]]. And even at his lowest, Kazuya still holds respect for Kazumi and his grandfather Jinpachi, something that Heihachi does not do (while his falling out with Kazumi can be considered tragic, Heihachi absolutely has no good excuse about his antagonism against the more peaceful Jinpachi). ''VideoGame/Tekken8'' does its best to paint Kazuya in the vilest light possible as the mass murdering EvilOverlord who wants to TakeOverTheWorld while Jin is TheAtoner and hero again but a lot of fans still felt sympathy for Kazuya especially considering the game ironically reveals more of his HiddenDepths such as genuinely loving Jun his baby mama and respecting his son Jin as a WorthyOpponent while Heihachi — whom other characters like Victor and flashbacks essentially treat as a hero who died trying to save world from Kazuya — displayed nowhere near as much respect for family when he was alive.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'':
** ''VideoGame/Fallout3'': The Enclave is a faction of Eagleland imperialists rather than the genocidal deep state as shown in ''Fallout 2''. While the [[spoiler:robot]] president John Henry Eden wants to redo the same genocidal plan the Enclave had in ''Fallout 2'' by poisoning the water purifier, [[DragonInChief Colonel Autumn]] instead wants to seize the water purifier, have Enclave scientists get it in order, and purify the water to win the loyalty of wastelanders. The Enclave in-game seems more loyal to Autumn than Eden, and his goal is fundamentally the same as the Brotherhood's. When considering how the region is rife with mutants, slavers, raiders, and the like, the prospect of the wasteland being in the hands of the reformed Enclave is tame.
** ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'': The game tries to make the NCR look flawed with the Bitter Springs incident, but this falls flat. The Great Khans repeatedly attacked NCR civilians ([[WouldHurtAChild children included]]) [[ForTheEvulz for no discernible reason]], so the NCR staged a raid on their camp at Bitter Springs in response. Due to faulty intel, fleeing Khan children and elderly end up being shot by the NCR on accident, and the narrative makes it out to be a MoralEventHorizon for the NCR even though the Khans started it and ''intentionally'' hurt children.
** ''VideoGame/Fallout3'': The Enclave is a faction of Eagleland imperialists rather than the genocidal deep state as shown in ''Fallout 2''. While the [[spoiler:robot]] president John Henry Eden wants to redo the same genocidal plan the Enclave had in ''Fallout 2'' by poisoning the water purifier, [[DragonInChief Colonel Autumn]] instead wants to seize the water purifier, have Enclave scientists get it in order, and purify the water to win the loyalty of wastelanders. The Enclave in-game seems more loyal to Autumn than Eden, and his goal is fundamentally the same as the Brotherhood's. When considering how the region is rife with mutants, slavers, raiders, and the like, the prospect of the wasteland being in the hands of the reformed Enclave is tame.
** ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'': The game tries to make the NCR look flawed with the Bitter Springs incident, but this falls flat. The Great Khans repeatedly attacked NCR civilians ([[WouldHurtAChild children included]]) [[ForTheEvulz for no discernible reason]], so the NCR staged a raid on their camp at Bitter Springs in response. Due to faulty intel, fleeing Khan children and elderly end up being shot by the NCR on accident, and the narrative makes it out to be a MoralEventHorizon for the NCR even though the Khans started it and ''intentionally'' hurt children.
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', Joel during the ending. [[spoiler: The game and its [[VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII sequel]] go far to [[InformedWrongness portray]] Joel's decision to murderously prevent the Fireflies fatal brain surgery of Ellie (the only known person immune to the Cordyceps Brain Infection) to create a vaccine as [[WhatTheHellHero a selfish choice]] that may have well doomed humanity and ''The Last of Us Part II'' even has Ellie claim that she was supposed to die in that operating room. Yet the GreyAndGrayMorality of it all, fell flat for many players as the Fireflies come off as too antagonistic and incompetent to be sympathetic and fact they didn’t even get Ellie's permission, just knocked her out and got out the scalpels as more than enough incentive for Joel to pump them full of lead. Worse still there's notes you can find in Firefly's lab that detail how they've actually fatally experimented on other infected subjects to zero success and were planning to kill Joel (the one who delivered Ellie to them) anyway, again making Joel's actions look even more justified. Additionally [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ulX06McSY&ab_channel=TheGameTheorists science is on Joel's side]] as well since vaccines in RealLife [[ArtisticLicenseMedicine don't work how the Fireflies claim]] [[ArtisticLicenseBiology and Ellie would absolutely have to be alive for any vaccine to be produced from her body]], all in all making Joel's killer PapaWolf rampage rescue look like a sane and rational choice.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', Joel during the ending. [[spoiler: The game and its [[VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII sequel]] go far to [[InformedWrongness portray]] Joel's decision to murderously prevent the Fireflies fatal brain surgery of Ellie (the only known person immune to the Cordyceps Brain Infection) to create a vaccine as [[WhatTheHellHero a selfish choice]] that may have well doomed humanity and ''The Last of Us Part II'' even has Ellie claim that she was supposed to die in that operating room. Yet the GreyAndGrayMorality of it all, fell flat for many players as the Fireflies come off as too antagonistic and incompetent to be sympathetic and the fact they didn’t even get Ellie's permission, just knocked her out and got out the scalpels as more than enough incentive for Joel to pump them full of lead. Worse still there's notes you can find in Firefly's lab that detail how they've actually fatally experimented on other infected subjects to zero success and were planning to kill Joel (the one who delivered Ellie to them) anyway, again making Joel's actions look even more justified. Additionally [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ulX06McSY&ab_channel=TheGameTheorists science is on Joel's side]] as well since vaccines in RealLife [[ArtisticLicenseMedicine don't work how the Fireflies claim]] [[ArtisticLicenseBiology and Ellie would absolutely have to be alive for any vaccine to be produced from her body]], all in all making Joel's killer PapaWolf rampage rescue look like a sane and rational choice.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII'', Ellie. The narrative seems to consider her quest for revenge to be as bad as, if not worse than, Abby's, but many players side with Ellie and find her to be more understandable. This is a consequence of Abby, her crew, and the Wolves' mooks coming across as highly UnintentionallyUnsympathetic when they're not outright {{Asshole Victim}}s. The other primary reasons, which are not because of FourthWallMyopia, are [[spoiler: that Ellie was actually forced to witness Joel's death at Abby's hands, and none of the Wolves ever help her, unlike what Joel did with Abby, something that Ellie lampshades to Jessie. A lot of people will also point to Abby and Ellie's respective scenes involving the murder of pregnant women. Ellie kills Mel, and when she sees Mel's baby bump, nearly has a panic attack and clearly wouldn't have done it if she had known Mel was pregnant. The opposite Abby who gleefully winds up to slit Dina's throat upon learning that Dina's pregnant, and only stops because Lev is horrified that she would do that]].
* ''VideoGame/TheMageseeker'': While most appreciate the fact that Sylas was tonned down from his previous AntiVillain status, some people feel like he went too far in the opposite direction. To the point that he feels too nice. For a guy that was labeled by the developers as an AntiHero, he never gets to do anything bad to anyone that didn't actually deserved it. The game also seems to ignore any of the previous innocent victims of his early attacks, to the point that not even Lux calls him out on that. And his shift of priorities from revenge to rescue of imprisoned mages happens so early in the game, that it barely feels like his actions has changed that much throughout it at all, even if his mindset has.
* ''VideoGame/TheMageseeker'': While most appreciate the fact that Sylas was tonned down from his previous AntiVillain status, some people feel like he went too far in the opposite direction. To the point that he feels too nice. For a guy that was labeled by the developers as an AntiHero, he never gets to do anything bad to anyone that didn't actually deserved it. The game also seems to ignore any of the previous innocent victims of his early attacks, to the point that not even Lux calls him out on that. And his shift of priorities from revenge to rescue of imprisoned mages happens so early in the game, that it barely feels like his actions has changed that much throughout it at all, even if his mindset has.
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII'', Ellie. The narrative seems to consider her quest for revenge to be as bad as, if not worse than, Abby's, but many players side with Ellie and find her to be more understandable. This is a consequence of Abby, her crew, and the Wolves' mooks coming across as highly UnintentionallyUnsympathetic when they're not outright {{Asshole Victim}}s. The other primary reasons, which are not because of FourthWallMyopia, are [[spoiler: that Ellie was actually forced to witness Joel's death at Abby's hands, and none of the Wolves ever help her, unlike what Joel did with Abby, something that Ellie lampshades to Jessie. Worse, said allies attempted to kill Ellie right afterwards. Hard not to feel driven to all out vengeance, with [[ArmiesAreEvil damn near utter psychopaths on the opposing team]], which in Ellie's POV might speak to the kind of person Ally might be to keep company with them. A lot of people will also point to Abby and Ellie's respective scenes involving the murder of pregnant women. Ellie kills Mel, and when she sees Mel's baby bump, nearly has a panic attack and clearly wouldn't have done it if she had known Mel was pregnant. The opposite Abby who by contrast gleefully winds up to slit Dina's throat upon learning that Dina's pregnant, and only stops because Lev [[MoralityPet Lev]] [[WhatTheHellHero is horrified that she would do that]].
that]]. That it is Dina who leaves Ellie, somewhat understandably, for being consumed with revenge, and not Lev leaving Abby for this heinous near-act of bloodlust, comes across as a KarmicMisFire.]].
* ''VideoGame/TheMageseeker'': While most appreciate the fact that Sylas wastonned toned down from his previous AntiVillain status, some people feel like he went too far in the opposite direction. To the point that he feels too nice. For a guy that was labeled by the developers as an AntiHero, he never gets to do anything bad to anyone that didn't actually deserved it. The game also seems to ignore any of the previous innocent victims of his early attacks, to the point that not even Lux calls him out on that. And his shift of priorities from revenge to rescue of imprisoned mages happens so early in the game, that it barely feels like his actions has changed that much throughout it at all, even if his mindset has.
* ''VideoGame/TheMageseeker'': While most appreciate the fact that Sylas was
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Silver Hand, the organization of werewolf hunters (and only source of [[SilverBullet silver swords]] in the game) that are the main enemies of the mercenary guild the Companions. The Companions' leadership is composed of werewolves, which naturally makes them a target of the Silver Hand. The Companions themselves paint this as FantasticRacism, but the vast majority of werewolves in Skyrim (read: those that are not Companions or former Companions) are mindless, savage beasts that prey on people, making the Silver Hand's mission less "fanatic hatred" and more "pretty damn justified." They neither know nor care that the Companions are able to retain their sapient mind while transformed, and at no point in the Companions' questline are you able to say "Y'know, they kinda have a point about ferals being a problem."
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The Silver Hand, the organization of werewolf hunters (and only source of [[SilverBullet silver swords]] in the game) that are the main enemies of the mercenary guild the Companions. The Companions' leadership is composed of werewolves, which naturally makes them a target of the Silver Hand. The Companions themselves paint this as FantasticRacism, but the vast majority of werewolves in Skyrim (read: those that are not Companions or former Companions) are mindless, savage beasts that prey on people, making the Silver Hand's mission less "fanatic hatred" and more "pretty damn justified." They neither don't seem to know nor care that the Companions are able to retain their sapient mind while transformed, transformed and are not the source of feral werewolves, but at no point in the Companions' questline are you able to say "Y'know, they kinda have a point about ferals being a problem."
