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* ''Series/PennyDreadful'' (after Madame Kali): {{Satan}} himself after his failed rebellion against God seeks to destroy humanity, dethrone God and rule on his new creation. Competiting with his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted Vanessa Ives as a child and tortured her into submission eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum.
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* ''Series/PennyDreadful'' (after Madame Kali): {{Satan}} himself after his failed rebellion against God seeks to destroy humanity, dethrone God and rule on his new creation. Competiting with his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted Vanessa Ives as a child and tortured her into submission eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum.
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* WesternAnimation.{{Wolfwalkers}} - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZdv_f9f5Jo one trailer]] and no tropes on the page
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* Film.BirdsOfPrey2020- Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_FTsR5QfDQ one short teaser]]
* Film.Bond25 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Ghostbusters3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjqCRJmCPE one short teaser]]
* Film.GodzillaVsKong - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Joker2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.MaleficentMistressOfEvil - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.{{Midsommar}} - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0UWIya-O0s one trailer]]
* Film.Morbius2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Mulan2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.TheNewMutants - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9e410C__I one short trailer]]
* Film.TheSuicideSquad - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.SonicTheHedgehog2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.StarWars9 - No trailer nor realeased footage nor a definitive title
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* Film.WonderWoman1984 - no trailer nor realeased footage
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[[folder:Series]]
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* Series.CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheMandalorian - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.Stargirl2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.SwampThing2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheWitcher2020 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf_8j7mtGZs one very short teaser]]
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Video Games]]
* VideoGame.Bayonetta3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-i40Ez6KY one very short teaser]]
* VideoGame.FinalFantasyVIIRemake - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg one teaser]] and a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xvMsEw3LE short trailer]]
* VideoGame.MetroidPrime4 - no trailer nor released footage
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[[folder: Western Animation]]
* WesternAnimation.HarleyQuinn2019 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZi4zsBVGmo one short teaser]]
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[[folder: Animated films]]
* WesternAnimation.{{Wolfwalkers}} - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZdv_f9f5Jo one trailer]] and no tropes on the page
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[[folder:Films]]
* Film.TheBatman2021 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.BirdsOfPrey2020- Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_FTsR5QfDQ one short teaser]]
* Film.Bond25 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Ghostbusters3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjqCRJmCPE one short teaser]]
* Film.GodzillaVsKong - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Joker2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.MaleficentMistressOfEvil - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.{{Midsommar}} - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0UWIya-O0s one trailer]]
* Film.Morbius2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Mulan2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.TheNewMutants - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9e410C__I one short trailer]]
* Film.TheSuicideSquad - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.SonicTheHedgehog2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.StarWars9 - No trailer nor realeased footage nor a definitive title
* Film.TopGunMaverick - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.WonderWoman1984 - no trailer nor realeased footage
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[[folder:Series]]
* Series.Batwoman2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage. However, Batwoman and the setting debuted in a BackdoorPilot.
* Series.CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheMandalorian - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.Stargirl2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.SwampThing2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheWitcher2020 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf_8j7mtGZs one very short teaser]]
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[[folder: Video Games]]
* VideoGame.Bayonetta3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-i40Ez6KY one very short teaser]]
* VideoGame.FinalFantasyVIIRemake - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg one teaser]] and a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xvMsEw3LE short trailer]]
* VideoGame.MetroidPrime4 - no trailer nor released footage
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* Film.Bond25 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Ghostbusters3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjqCRJmCPE one short teaser]]
* Film.GodzillaVsKong - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Joker2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.MaleficentMistressOfEvil - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.{{Midsommar}} - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0UWIya-O0s one trailer]]
* Film.Morbius2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.Mulan2020 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.TheNewMutants - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9e410C__I one short trailer]]
* Film.TheSuicideSquad - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.SonicTheHedgehog2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.StarWars9 - No trailer nor realeased footage nor
* Film.TopGunMaverick - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Film.WonderWoman1984 - no trailer nor realeased footage
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* Series.Batwoman2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage. However, Batwoman
* Series.CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheMandalorian - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.Stargirl2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.SwampThing2019 - No trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheWitcher2020 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf_8j7mtGZs one very short teaser]]
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[[folder: Video Games]]
* VideoGame.Bayonetta3 - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-i40Ez6KY one very short teaser]]
* VideoGame.FinalFantasyVIIRemake - Only [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg one teaser]] and a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xvMsEw3LE short trailer]]
* VideoGame.MetroidPrime4 - no trailer nor released footage
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* Series.TheMandalorian - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.Stargirl2019 - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.SwampThing2019 - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheWitcher2020 - Only one very short teaser
* Series.CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 - no trailer nor realeased footage
* Series.TheMandalorian - no trailer nor realeased footage
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'''What is the work?'''
''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material was very different]].
'''Who is she?'''
Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman[[note]]abhumen are monsters born from the Fiend and a witch[[/note]] son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
Lizzie is a secondary antagonist in the first novel ''The Spook's Apprentice'' and the main antagonist in the seventh novel ''The Spooks Nightmare''. She also appears in the short story "Alice and The brain Gruzzler" taking place before the first book and "Spook's: Alice".
'''What does she do?'''
Backstory: It's not known if Lizzie worked with Malkin in the "care home" but she did travel with her and Tusk. Thirty years before the first book, the Spook captured Mother Malkin with his silver chain but Lizzie and Tusk managed to escape. As the Spook didn't have the heart to either burn Mother Malkin or rip her heart out and eat it (the only ways to permanently kill a witch), he sealed her in a pit in his garden. He has a pet boggart who guards the place so the witches can't approach the pit.
''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and uses her body as his vessel. Every month she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brain plug in apple juice that she buries in the witch Dell at full moon. She then sends her niece to retrieve the jugs. I forgot to say that the Witch Dell is full of dangerous undead witches.
One day, Alice insults Old Spig for jumping into her stew. Old Spig announces that [[DisproportionateRetribution he will consume her brains just before the next full moon]]. When Alice reports the incident to Lizzie not onlmy the latter refuses to help her but she makes clear that's non of her buisness. She just say that's between him and Alice and that she had to get hard and survive.
The mean aunt announces that she's leaving the house for a few days because she has a gathering with the Pendle witches. She reminds Alice it's going to be the full moon soon and wonders if she's still be alive when she return or Old Spig will control her body.. She leave laughing.
''Spook's: Alice:''
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy Bradley [[note]] it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie[[/note]], John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart.
''The Spooks Nightmare:''
see also here for more informations http://thespooksapprentice.wikia.com/wiki/Bony_Lizzie. The article is a stub as it lacks the events of the ''Spook's Nightmare''
'''Freudian Excuse? '''
None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches. It's possible that being imprisoned in the pit didn't improve her sanity.
'''Redeeming Qualities?'''
Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to te wins her back. quote
"Know what Alice is, boy? She’s my gift to the County […]‘She’s my special gift to the Pendle clans, One day she’ll unite ’em once and for all, and then the world had better watch out!’"
She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only things she says to him are sadistic taunts. The quote from the book:
"Well, boy,’ she said. ‘How does it feel to know that you’ll never see the light of day again?"
Ditto for the ''Spook's Nightmare'' where she never mentions Mother Malkin and makes clear that she hates Tom nd his master for pitting her.
She's clearly found of her brain gruzzler Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
As for her uncle Tusk, she treats him like a servant.
'''Moral Agency?'''
Most creatures Tom meet are either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons, evil spirits,...) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiend. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch, Agnès the benevolent witch, Grimalkin [[AntiVillain the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend (their son to be precise...)]]... Lizzie is also an EvilCounterpart to Tom's mother who's [[spoiler: the mythological Lamia driven insane by Hera and preyed on children but redeemed herself]] while Lizzie has no redemption arc.
'''Heinousness?'''
I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barrule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hypocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. Even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marry him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressource and he dies halway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standard villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to kill Tom to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister (even if Tom wasn't responsible) and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
''The Spook's Sacrifice'' has an evil godess who seeks to invade the world with her army of monsters but she comes out as a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
The only other candidate I see is Alice's other parent, the Fiend himself. I'll make an effort about him post later.
'''Verdict'''
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material was very different]].
'''Who is she?'''
Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman[[note]]abhumen are monsters born from the Fiend and a witch[[/note]] son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
Lizzie is a secondary antagonist in the first novel ''The Spook's Apprentice'' and the main antagonist in the seventh novel ''The Spooks Nightmare''. She also appears in the short story "Alice and The brain Gruzzler" taking place before the first book and "Spook's: Alice".
'''What does she do?'''
Backstory: It's not known if Lizzie worked with Malkin in the "care home" but she did travel with her and Tusk. Thirty years before the first book, the Spook captured Mother Malkin with his silver chain but Lizzie and Tusk managed to escape. As the Spook didn't have the heart to either burn Mother Malkin or rip her heart out and eat it (the only ways to permanently kill a witch), he sealed her in a pit in his garden. He has a pet boggart who guards the place so the witches can't approach the pit.
''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and uses her body as his vessel. Every month she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brain plug in apple juice that she buries in the witch Dell at full moon. She then sends her niece to retrieve the jugs. I forgot to say that the Witch Dell is full of dangerous undead witches.
One day, Alice insults Old Spig for jumping into her stew. Old Spig announces that [[DisproportionateRetribution he will consume her brains just before the next full moon]]. When Alice reports the incident to Lizzie not onlmy the latter refuses to help her but she makes clear that's non of her buisness. She just say that's between him and Alice and that she had to get hard and survive.
The mean aunt announces that she's leaving the house for a few days because she has a gathering with the Pendle witches. She reminds Alice it's going to be the full moon soon and wonders if she's still be alive when she return or Old Spig will control her body.. She leave laughing.
''Spook's: Alice:''
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy Bradley [[note]] it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie[[/note]], John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart.
''The Spooks Nightmare:''
see also here for more informations http://thespooksapprentice.wikia.com/wiki/Bony_Lizzie. The article is a stub as it lacks the events of the ''Spook's Nightmare''
'''Freudian Excuse? '''
None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches. It's possible that being imprisoned in the pit didn't improve her sanity.
'''Redeeming Qualities?'''
Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to te wins her back. quote
"Know what Alice is, boy? She’s my gift to the County […]‘She’s my special gift to the Pendle clans, One day she’ll unite ’em once and for all, and then the world had better watch out!’"
She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only things she says to him are sadistic taunts. The quote from the book:
"Well, boy,’ she said. ‘How does it feel to know that you’ll never see the light of day again?"
Ditto for the ''Spook's Nightmare'' where she never mentions Mother Malkin and makes clear that she hates Tom nd his master for pitting her.
She's clearly found of her brain gruzzler Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
As for her uncle Tusk, she treats him like a servant.
'''Moral Agency?'''
Most creatures Tom meet are either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons, evil spirits,...) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiend. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch, Agnès the benevolent witch, Grimalkin [[AntiVillain the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend (their son to be precise...)]]... Lizzie is also an EvilCounterpart to Tom's mother who's [[spoiler: the mythological Lamia driven insane by Hera and preyed on children but redeemed herself]] while Lizzie has no redemption arc.
'''Heinousness?'''
I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barrule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hypocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. Even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marry him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressource and he dies halway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standard villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to kill Tom to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister (even if Tom wasn't responsible) and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
''The Spook's Sacrifice'' has an evil godess who seeks to invade the world with her army of monsters but she comes out as a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
The only other candidate I see is Alice's other parent, the Fiend himself. I'll make an effort about him post later.
'''Verdict'''
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Lizzie is a secondary antagonist in the first novel ''The Spook's Apprentice'' and the main antagonist in the seventh novel ''The Spooks Nightmare''. She also appears in the short story "" "Alice and The brain Gruzzler" taking place before the first book.
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman abhuman[[note]]abhumen are monsters born from the Fiend and a witch[[/note]] son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
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Backstory: It's no known if Lizzie worked with Malkin in the "care home" but she did travel with her and Tusk. Thirty years before the first book, the Spook captured Mother Malkin with his silver chain but Lizzie and Tusk managed to escape. As the Spook didn't have the heart to either burn Mother Malkin or rip her heart out and eat it (the only ways to permanently kill a witch), he sealed her in a pit in his garden. He has a pet boggart who guards the place so the witches can't approach the pit.
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Backstory: It's no not known if Lizzie worked with Malkin in the "care home" but she did travel with her and Tusk. Thirty years before the first book, the Spook captured Mother Malkin with his silver chain but Lizzie and Tusk managed to escape. As the Spook didn't have the heart to either burn Mother Malkin or rip her heart out and eat it (the only ways to permanently kill a witch), he sealed her in a pit in his garden. He has a pet boggart who guards the place so the witches can't approach the pit.
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I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barrule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hypocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marr him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressource and he dies halway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standar villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
The Spook's Sacrifice has an evil godess who seeks to invade the world with her army of monsters but she comes out as a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
The Spook's Sacrifice has an evil godess who seeks to invade the world with her army of monsters but she comes out as a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
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I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barrule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hypocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. even Even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marr marry him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressource and he dies halway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standar standard villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to kill Tom to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister (even if Tom wasn't responsible) and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
The ''The Spook's Sacrifice Sacrifice'' has an evil godess who seeks to invade the world with her army of monsters but she comes out as a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material was way worse]].
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material was way worse]].
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and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiend. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch, Agnès the benevolent witch, Grimalkin [[AntiVillain the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend (their son to be precise...)]]... Lizzie is also an EvilCounterpart to Tom's mother who's [[spoiler: the mythological Lamia driven insane by Hera and ate lots of children but redeemed herself]] while Lizzie has no redemption arc.
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and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiend. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch, Agnès the benevolent witch, Grimalkin [[AntiVillain the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend (their son to be precise...)]]... Lizzie is also an EvilCounterpart to Tom's mother who's [[spoiler: the mythological Lamia driven insane by Hera and ate lots of preyed on children but redeemed herself]] while Lizzie has no redemption arc.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and uses her body as his vessel. Every month she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brain plug in apple juice that she buries in the witch Dwell at full moon. She then sends her niece to retrieve the jugs. I forgot to say that the Witch dwell is full of dangerous undead witches.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and uses her body as his vessel. Every month she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brain plug in apple juice that she buries in the witch Dwell Dell at full moon. She then sends her niece to retrieve the jugs. I forgot to say that the Witch dwell Dell is full of dangerous undead witches.
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The mean aunt announces that she's leaving the house for a few days because she has a gathering with the Pendle witches. She reminds Alice it's going to be the full moon soon and wonders if she's still be alive when she return or Old Spig will control her body.. She leave laughing.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and control her body.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and control uses her body.
body as his vessel. Every month she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brain plug in apple juice that she buries in the witch Dwell at full moon. She then sends her niece to retrieve the jugs. I forgot to say that the Witch dwell is full of dangerous undead witches.
One day, Alice insults Old Spig for jumping into her stew. Old Spig announces that [[DisproportionateRetribution he will consume her brains just before the next full moon]]. When Alice reports the incident to Lizzie not onlmy the latter refuses to help her but she makes clear that's non of her buisness. She just say that's between him and Alice and that she had to get hard and survive.
One day, Alice insults Old Spig for jumping into her stew. Old Spig announces that [[DisproportionateRetribution he will consume her brains just before the next full moon]]. When Alice reports the incident to Lizzie not onlmy the latter refuses to help her but she makes clear that's non of her buisness. She just say that's between him and Alice and that she had to get hard and survive.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler.
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy Bradley, John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart. [[note it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie]]
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy Bradley, John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart. [[note it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie]]
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler. \n\n He feeds on brain from animals and human. He can controls their bodies; Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and control her body.
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of BillyBradley, Bradley [[note]] it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie[[/note]], John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart. [[note it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie]]
boggart.
''The Spook's Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because.because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler.
''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' The story takes place two years before the first book. After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnes Sowerbutts, a benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted a 11 years old Alice against the protest of Agnes. Lizzie
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Most creatures Tom meet are either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons, evil spirits) spirits,...) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnès Sowerbutts (a Deane witch who married a man). A few years later, Lizzie abducted Alice against the will of Agnès. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit.
''The Spook's Apprentice:''
''The Spook's Apprentice:''
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:'' After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnès Sowerbutts (a Deane witch who married Agnes Sowerbutts, a man). benevolent witch. A few years later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted Alice against the will protest of Agnès.Agnes. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit.
rabbit. the other two contains poisonous mushrooms and Lizzie's familiar Old Spig. Old Spig is the titular Brain Gruzzler.
''The Spook'sApprentice:''
Apprentice:'' Lizzie enacts a plan to free Mother Malkin. She steals the thumb bones of Billy Bradley, John's former apprentice and Tom's predecessor, who died when dealing with a dangerous boggart. [[note it's the character played by Kit Harrington in the movie]]
''The Spook's
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see also here for more informations http://thespooksapprentice.wikia.com/wiki/Bony_Lizzie. The article is a stub as it lacks the events of the ''Spook's Nightmare''
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to te wins her back. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only thing she says to him is a sadistic taunt, ().
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only thing she says to him is a sadistic taunt, ().
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to te wins her back. quote
"Know what Alice is, boy? She’s my gift to the County […]‘She’s my special gift to the Pendle clans, One day she’ll unite ’em once and for all, and then the world had better watch out!’"
She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the onlything things she says to him is a are sadistic taunt, ().
taunts. The quote from the book:
"Well, boy,’ she said. ‘How does it feel to know that you’ll never see the light of day again?"
Ditto for the ''Spook's Nightmare'' where she never mentions Mother Malkin and makes clear that she hates Tom nd his master for pitting her.
"Know what Alice is, boy? She’s my gift to the County […]‘She’s my special gift to the Pendle clans, One day she’ll unite ’em once and for all, and then the world had better watch out!’"
She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only
"Well, boy,’ she said. ‘How does it feel to know that you’ll never see the light of day again?"
Ditto for the ''Spook's Nightmare'' where she never mentions Mother Malkin and makes clear that she hates Tom nd his master for pitting her.
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I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hpocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marr him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressources. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standar villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
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I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barule Barrule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hpocrite}} [[{{Hypocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marr him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressources.ressource and he dies halway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standar villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
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None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches. It's possible that being imprisonned in the pit didn't improve her sanity.
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None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches. It's possible that being imprisonned imprisoned in the pit didn't improve her sanity.
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to teunite with her. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes.
She's clearly found of her monstruos pet Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes.
She's clearly found of her monstruos pet Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to teunite with her.te wins her back. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke anEvenEvilHasLovedOnes.
EvenEvilHasLovedOnes but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irrate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seems to be sad at all. in fact she never mentions her, not even ''once''. Before trapping Tom in the pit, the only thing she says to him is a sadistic taunt, ().
She's clearly found of hermonstruos pet brain gruzzler Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an
She's clearly found of her
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Most creatures Tom meet are either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons for example) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiedn. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiedn. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
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Most creatures Tom meet are either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons for example) (daemons, evil spirits) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away theFiedn. Fiend. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
witch, Agnès the benevolent witch, Grimalkin [[AntiVillain the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend (their son to be precise...)]]... Lizzie is also an EvilCounterpart to Tom's mother who's [[spoiler: the mythological Lamia driven insane by Hera and ate lots of children but redeemed herself]] while Lizzie has no redemption arc.
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the
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I do think she stands out in heinousness. Lord Barule from the same novel is also a awful human being as he hunts witches despite [[{{Hpocrite}} being a sorcerer himself]]. even though he has Horn to track them, many of those girls are oblivious about being witches. He sentenced Adrianna to death not just because she's a witch but because she refused to marr him. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of ressources. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later as a ghost, tries to kill his entire familly including his baby niece but I think it's standar villainy. The story about pregnant woman murdered is backtory and OffscreenVillainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard: We have Mistress Wurmald who abduct Tom's brother, his sister in law and his baby niece. There's also Scarabek who wants to avenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes her twin sister and has a monstruous Husband and son]].
The only other candidate I see is Alice's other parent, the Fiend himself. I'll make an effort about him post later.
The only other candidate I see is Alice's other parent, the Fiend himself. I'll make an effort about him post later.
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material is waaaaayyyy worse]].
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material is waaaaayyyy was way worse]].
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father,
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Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father,
Father.
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:''
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''Alice and the Brain Guzzler:''
Guzzler:'' After the death of her parents, Alice went to live with her aunt Agnès Sowerbutts (a Deane witch who married a man). A few years later, Lizzie abducted Alice against the will of Agnès. Lizzie is shown to be an abusive teacher. Alice's first lesson consist to chose wisely her meal between three pots. She as to sniff to tell which one contains rabbit.
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She's clearly found of her monstruos pet Ols Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
Her relationship with her uncle Tusk isn't elaborated but she treats him like a servant.
Her relationship with her uncle Tusk isn't elaborated but she treats him like a servant.
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She's clearly found of her monstruos pet Ols Old Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
Her relationship with As for her uncle Tusk isn't elaborated but Tusk, she treats him like a servant.
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Most creatures Tom meet are AlwaysChaoticEvil. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. Ther series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
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Most creatures Tom meet are AlwaysChaoticEvil.either AlwaysChaoticEvil entities (daemons for example) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. Ther The Spook classes witches into four categories: The Benign, The Malevolent, The Unaware
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiedn. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
and the Falsely Accused. MagicIsEvil is played straight, the Spook has nothing but hatred for it and berates Alice every time she uses it even for good purpose like creating the blood jar that keep away the Fiedn. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
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''Literature/TheWardstoneChronicles'', better known as ''The Last Apprentice'' or ''The Spook Series'', tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, [[MagicalSeventhSon the seventh son of a seventh son]], during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. They are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose and crappy adaptation ''[[Film/SeventhSon2015 Seventh Son]]''. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was turned into a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice but [[AdaptationalHeroism the character in the source material is waaaaayyyy worse]].
Bony Lizzie is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones. She has a taste for blood which she acquires from [[WouldHurtAChild young childen]]. She's from the Malkin Clan, one the the three Pendle clans (the other three are the Deanes and the Mouldheel's). She's the grandaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because. Finally Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane, herself the daughter a Malkin mother (presumably Lizzie's sister) and a Deane Father,
Lizzie is a secondary antagonist in the first novel ''The Spook's Apprentice'' and the main antagonist in the seventh novel ''The Spooks Nightmare''. She also appears in the short story "" taking place before the first book.
Lizzie is a secondary antagonist in the first novel ''The Spook's Apprentice'' and the main antagonist in the seventh novel ''The Spooks Nightmare''. She also appears in the short story "" taking place before the first book.
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to reunites the clans of Pendle and ends their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to teunite with her. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about reuniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer care by the time she actually tries to kill her.
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to reunites unite the clans of Pendle and ends end their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to teunite with her. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about reuniting uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer care cares by the time she actually directly tries to kill her.
She's clearly found of her monstruos pet Ols Spig but given how she react after Alice kills it, I don't think it counts as a redeeming quality.
Her relationship with her uncle Tusk isn't elaborated but she treats him like a servant.
Her relationship with her uncle Tusk isn't elaborated but she treats him like a servant.
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Most creatures Tom meet are AlwaysChaoticEvil. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. Ther series has several token goood "good" witches ().
(or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch.
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What is the work?
Who is she?
What does she do?
Freudian Excuse?
Who is she?
What does she do?
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'''What does she
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'''Heinousness?'''
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None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches.
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witches. It's possible that being imprisonned in the pit didn't improve her sanity.
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Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her gift "gift to the County.
County". She believes Alice is destined to reunites the clans of Pendle and ends their rivalry. It's the reason why she wants to teunite with her. She might sounds like a WellIntentionedExtremist but it's likely more about reuniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer care by the time she actually tries to kill her.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes.
The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempts to avenge her later could invoke an EvenEvilHasLovedOnes.
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What is the work?
Who is she?
What does she do?
Freudian Excuse?
None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches.
Redeeming Qualities?
Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her gift to the County.
Moral Agency?
Heinousness?
Verdict
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What is the work?
Who is she?
What does she do?
Freudian Excuse?
None elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches.
Redeeming Qualities?
Early on ''The Spook's Nightmare'', Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her gift to the County.
Moral Agency?
Heinousness?
Verdict
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