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Here because, despite my claims to the contrary, I guess I really did love high school English class. In real life I am a paleontologist. I'm interested in entry-pimping lesser-known works and helping improve appearance tropes. I am most often found in the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=renames Trope Repair Shop and the left side of the forums.]]
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Here because, despite my claims to the contrary, I guess I really did love high school English class. In real life I am a paleontologist. I'm interested in entry-pimping lesser-known works and helping improve appearance tropes. I am most often found in the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=renames Trope Repair Shop and the left side of the forums.]]
]] One of the last remaining with [[JustForFun/TheArchiveOfBellicoseLexiconEntities FORKS]] leanings.
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* MenActWomenAre
* MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial
* MenActWomenAre
* MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl
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To-do list:
* Finish crosswicking Creator/LyndaBarry
* Remove EpisodicTroping, improve flow from ''Anime/MawaruPenguindrum''
* ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'' character sheets (ongoing)
* Move Woman In White wick on Characters.Elementary to ManInWhite's new name once thread resolves
* TRS HollywoodMedievalJapan, ShrinesAndTemples
* Crosswick DefendPopPunk, related pages (i.e. Music/TheWonderYears)
TLP ideas:
* LeaveTheDoorOpen- movie characters never close the door, even when it would make sense
* TheJareth: Sexy, bishonen villain
* MyNameIsRap: "My name is so-and-so and I'm here to say..."
* BornWithArmor: A character enters the world wearing armor, which may be part of their body
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[[folder: Cinderella Ending/Ascended Princess TLP]]
A happy ending in which our long-suffering everygirl heroine becomes a princess. Usually this happens as a result of marrying PrinceCharming, making this the DistaffCounterpart of StandardHeroReward, although she also may be made an HonoraryPrincess without any marriage (this is more common for child heroines).
Because MenActWomenAre, this happy ending is usually framed as a reward for her [[ProperLady inherent]], [[IncorruptiblePurePureness princess-like]] [[PluckyGirl virtues]] rather than specific heroic actions. Often, the heroine is described as being a PrincessClassic in all but title. May accompany the {{Aesop}} that all girls are princesses.
The TropeCodifier is the ''Literature/{{Cinderella}}'' family of fairy tales told worldwide, and as such is common in fantasy and FairyTale-inspired stories. Because [[PrincessPhase little girls love princesses]], this is a form of WishFulfillment that is common in children's stories.
Subtrope of RagsToRoyalty. Compare PrincessProtagonist. Contrast ReallyRoyaltyReveal and RightfulKingReturns, where the character was a princess all along but is returned to power. Related to GratuitousPrincess, through the compulsion to have a princess ''somewhere'' in the story.
'''As an ending trope, expect spoilers ahead.'''
!!Examples:
[[AC: Fairy Tales]]
[[AC: Film - Animated]]
* ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}''
* ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog''
[[AC: Literature]]
* ''Literature/LandOfOz''
* ''Literature/TheLittlePrincess'': Played with.
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* FolkPunk
* FolkPunk
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* ''Film/HorseGirl''
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Afros, those curly, bouffant hairdos most commonly sported by people with African ancestry, have a long history in comedy. Since the 19th century, NonIronicClown{{s}} have sported large, curly, often brightly-colored afros (a tradition that may have its roots in MinstrelShows), and afro hairstyles continue to play a role in both gag-based and character-based humor.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or as part of [[UncleTomfoolery ethnic humor]]. As both the afro hairstyle and this type of [[DiscreditedTrope racial humor]] fell [[DeaderThanDisco out of style]], the role of afro-d characters shifted. Due to its unpopularity, the style became associated with the DiscoDan and other nerdy, uncool ButtMonkey types. In order to avoid UnfortunateImplications and to serve as a joke in itself, afros were increasingly worn by white characters (i.e. the so-called "Jewfro"). In American comedy today, afros tend to be used in one of two ways: to show a character is TheWackyGuy or otherwise weird and kooky, or as a quick gag where characters wear outlandish afro wigs to increase the absurdity of a situation.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or as part of [[UncleTomfoolery ethnic humor]]. As both the afro hairstyle and this type of [[DiscreditedTrope racial humor]] fell [[DeaderThanDisco out of style]], the role of afro-d characters shifted. Due to its unpopularity, the style became associated with the DiscoDan and other nerdy, uncool ButtMonkey types. In order to avoid UnfortunateImplications and to serve as a joke in itself, afros were increasingly worn by white characters (i.e. the so-called "Jewfro"). In American comedy today, afros tend to be used in one of two ways: to show a character is TheWackyGuy or otherwise weird and kooky, or as a quick gag where characters wear outlandish afro wigs to increase the absurdity of a situation.
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Afros, those curly, bouffant hairdos most commonly sported by people with African ancestry, have a long history in comedy. Since the 19th century, NonIronicClown{{s}} {{Non Ironic Clown}}s have sported large, curly, often brightly-colored afros (a tradition that may have its roots in MinstrelShows), and afro hairstyles continue to play a role in both gag-based and character-based humor.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or aspart of [[UncleTomfoolery ethnic humor]]. wise-cracking Black sterotypes]]. As both the afro hairstyle and this type of [[DiscreditedTrope racial humor]] fell [[DeaderThanDisco out of style]], the role of afro-d afro'd characters shifted. Due to its unpopularity, the style became associated with the DiscoDan and other nerdy, uncool ButtMonkey types. In order to avoid UnfortunateImplications and to serve as a joke in itself, afros were increasingly worn by white characters (i.e. the so-called "Jewfro"). In American comedy today, afros tend to be used in one of two ways: to show a character is TheWackyGuy or otherwise weird and kooky, or as a quick gag where characters wear outlandish afro wigs to increase the absurdity of a situation.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or as
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Afros, those curly, bouffant hairdos most commonly sported by people with African ancestry, have a long history in comedy. Since the 19th century, NonIronicClown{{s}} have sported large, curly, often brightly-colored afros (a tradition that may have its roots in MinstrelShows), and afro hairstyles continue to play a role in both gag-based and character-based humor.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or as part of [[UncleTomfoolery ethnic humor]]. As both the afro hairstyle and this type of [[DiscreditedTrope racial humor]] fell [[DeaderThanDisco out of style]], the role of afro-d characters shifted. Due to its unpopularity, the style became associated with the DiscoDan and other nerdy, uncool ButtMonkey types. In order to avoid UnfortunateImplications and to serve as a joke in itself, afros were increasingly worn by white characters (i.e. the so-called "Jewfro"). In American comedy today, afros tend to be used in one of two ways: to show a character is TheWackyGuy or otherwise weird and kooky, or as a quick gag where characters wear outlandish afro wigs to increase the absurdity of a situation.
The trope is very much alive in Japan, which doesn't have the same taboos about racial humor as the US. Such characters tend to be a FunnyForeigner. As a side note, in Japanese just the ''word'' "afro" is [[InherentlyFunnyWords rather funny]] because it just happens to sounds like "afuro", which rather accurately means "overflowing"; hell, this pun is behind [[Anime/AfroSamurai the title of one show]]. Or, it could sound like "a {{furo|Scene}}" (yes, at least [[Manga/NininGaShinobuden one anime]] has made that very joke).
See also HollywoodNerd, ModernMinstrelsy, SoulBrotha, CurlyHairIsUgly.
When writing examples, [[DontExplainTheJoke be sure to explain the joke.]] There's nothing inherently funny about afros, and examples should explain how the character's hair contributes to the humor.
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Afros, those curly, bouffant hairdos most commonly sported by people with African ancestry, have a long history in comedy. Since the 19th century, NonIronicClown{{s}} have sported large, curly, often brightly-colored afros (a tradition that may have its roots in MinstrelShows), and afro hairstyles continue to play a role in both gag-based and character-based humor.
Definitely an EvolvingTrope, as both styles and attitudes about race have changed over time. In TheSeventies, afros surged in popularity in the United States with the Black Pride movement to become a defining element of SeventiesHair. As such, comedic characters with afros cropped up often as parodies of the then-popular AfroAsskicker trope or as part of [[UncleTomfoolery ethnic humor]]. As both the afro hairstyle and this type of [[DiscreditedTrope racial humor]] fell [[DeaderThanDisco out of style]], the role of afro-d characters shifted. Due to its unpopularity, the style became associated with the DiscoDan and other nerdy, uncool ButtMonkey types. In order to avoid UnfortunateImplications and to serve as a joke in itself, afros were increasingly worn by white characters (i.e. the so-called "Jewfro"). In American comedy today, afros tend to be used in one of two ways: to show a character is TheWackyGuy or otherwise weird and kooky, or as a quick gag where characters wear outlandish afro wigs to increase the absurdity of a situation.
The trope is very much alive in Japan, which doesn't have the same taboos about racial humor as the US. Such characters tend to be a FunnyForeigner. As a side note, in Japanese just the ''word'' "afro" is [[InherentlyFunnyWords rather funny]] because it just happens to sounds like "afuro", which rather accurately means "overflowing"; hell, this pun is behind [[Anime/AfroSamurai the title of one show]]. Or, it could sound like "a {{furo|Scene}}" (yes, at least [[Manga/NininGaShinobuden one anime]] has made that very joke).
See also HollywoodNerd, ModernMinstrelsy, SoulBrotha, CurlyHairIsUgly.
When writing examples, [[DontExplainTheJoke be sure to explain the joke.]] There's nothing inherently funny about afros, and examples should explain how the character's hair contributes to the humor.
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Troping philosophy:generally a splitter. I believe that there is an optimal trope description length: 3-5 paragraphs, 300-500 words. Too short and you can't tell what the trope's about, too long and readers don't read it (and tend to misuse it).
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!! Tropes that apply to me as a troper:
* AbsentMindedProfessor: I'm smart, but forgetful and easily distracted.
* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
* KnightInSourArmor: I tend to take a cynical on view of things, but it's because the world fails to live up to my ideals.
* RenaissanceMan: I try. I have a lot of random knowledge about different fields (and types of media, here), and I'm always looking to learn more.
* VisualPun: The ironist in my name is "someone who uses irony". Take a look at my avatar.
* AbsentMindedProfessor: I'm smart, but forgetful and easily distracted.
* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
* KnightInSourArmor: I tend to take a cynical on view of things, but it's because the world fails to live up to my ideals.
* RenaissanceMan: I try. I have a lot of random knowledge about different fields (and types of media, here), and I'm always looking to learn more.
* VisualPun: The ironist in my name is "someone who uses irony". Take a look at my avatar.
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!! Tropes that apply to me as a troper:
* AbsentMindedProfessor: I'm smart, but forgetful and easily distracted.
* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
* KnightInSourArmor: I tend to take a cynicalSome of my favorite pages on view of things, but it's because the world fails to live up to my ideals.
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*RenaissanceMan: I try. I have a lot of random knowledge about different fields (and types of media, here), and I'm always looking to learn more.
ManIFeelLikeAWoman
*VisualPun: The ironist in my name is "someone who uses irony". Take a look at my avatar.
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* WildTeenParty
* AbsentMindedProfessor: I'm smart, but forgetful and easily distracted.
* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
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[[folder: Cinderella Ending/Ascended Princess TLP]]
A happy ending in which our long-suffering everygirl heroine becomes a princess. Usually this happens as a result of marrying PrinceCharming, making this the DistaffCounterpart of StandardHeroReward, although she also may be made an HonoraryPrincess without any marriage (this is more common for child heroines).
Because MenActWomenAre, this happy ending is usually framed as a reward for her [[ProperLady inherent]], [[IncorruptiblePurePureness princess-like]] [[PluckyGirl virtues]] rather than specific heroic actions. Often, the heroine is described as being a PrincessClassic in all but title. May accompany the {{Aesop}} that all girls are princesses.
The TropeCodifier is the ''Literature/{{Cinderella}}'' family of fairy tales told worldwide, and as such is common in fantasy and FairyTale-inspired stories. Because [[PrincessPhase little girls love princesses]], this is a form of WishFulfillment that is common in children's stories.
Subtrope of RagsToRoyalty. Compare PrincessProtagonist. Contrast ReallyRoyaltyReveal and RightfulKingReturns, where the character was a princess all along but is returned to power. Related to GratuitousPrincess, through the compulsion to have a princess ''somewhere'' in the story.
'''As an ending trope, expect spoilers ahead.'''
!!Examples:
[[AC: Fairy Tales]]
[[AC: Film - Animated]]
* ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}''
* ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog''
[[AC: Literature]]
* ''Literature/LandOfOz''
* ''Literature/TheLittlePrincess'': Played with.
[[folder: Cinderella Ending/Ascended Princess TLP]]
A happy ending in which our long-suffering everygirl heroine becomes a princess. Usually this happens as a result of marrying PrinceCharming, making this the DistaffCounterpart of StandardHeroReward, although she also may be made an HonoraryPrincess without any marriage (this is more common for child heroines).
Because MenActWomenAre, this happy ending is usually framed as a reward for her [[ProperLady inherent]], [[IncorruptiblePurePureness princess-like]] [[PluckyGirl virtues]] rather than specific heroic actions. Often, the heroine is described as being a PrincessClassic in all but title. May accompany the {{Aesop}} that all girls are princesses.
The TropeCodifier is the ''Literature/{{Cinderella}}'' family of fairy tales told worldwide, and as such is common in fantasy and FairyTale-inspired stories. Because [[PrincessPhase little girls love princesses]], this is a form of WishFulfillment that is common in children's stories.
Subtrope of RagsToRoyalty. Compare PrincessProtagonist. Contrast ReallyRoyaltyReveal and RightfulKingReturns, where the character was a princess all along but is returned to power. Related to GratuitousPrincess, through the compulsion to have a princess ''somewhere'' in the story.
'''As an ending trope, expect spoilers ahead.'''
!!Examples:
[[AC: Fairy Tales]]
[[AC: Film - Animated]]
* ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}''
* ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog''
[[AC: Literature]]
* ''Literature/LandOfOz''
* ''Literature/TheLittlePrincess'': Played with.
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Here because, despite my claims to the contrary, I guess I really did love high school English class. Here, you can find me the repair shop and related areas. In real life I am a paleontologist.
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Here because, despite my claims to the contrary, I guess I really did love high school English class. Here, you can find me the repair shop and related areas. In real life I am a paleontologist.
paleontologist. I'm interested in entry-pimping lesser-known works and helping improve appearance tropes. I am most often found in the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=renames Trope Repair Shop and the left side of the forums.]]
!! Tropes that apply to me as a troper:
* AbsentMindedProfessor: I'm smart, but forgetful and easily distracted.
* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
* KnightInSourArmor: I tend to take a cynical on view of things, but it's because the world fails to live up to my ideals.
* RenaissanceMan: I try. I have a lot of random knowledge about different fields (and types of media, here), and I'm always looking to learn more.
* VisualPun: The ironist in my name is "someone who uses irony". Take a look at my avatar.
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* AmbiguousGender: I'm not telling.
* {{Bookworm}}
* TheKlutz: I am very clumsy and frequently break things and screw things up for people.
* KnightInSourArmor: I tend to take a cynical on view of things, but it's because the world fails to live up to my ideals.
* RenaissanceMan: I try. I have a lot of random knowledge about different fields (and types of media, here), and I'm always looking to learn more.
* VisualPun: The ironist in my name is "someone who uses irony". Take a look at my avatar.
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# '''Live-Action Film and TV''': While filmmakers do work to create a visual look that may tie to the script, they have many limitations. Characters' appearances are largely determined by actors' appearances, which due to AbilityOverAppearance may differ from the script. Additionally, the bold [[MovieSuperheroesWearBlack color contrasts seen animated media often don't work]] in live-action. That said, appearance tropes relating to costuming, makeup, and color saturation are often meaningful for characterization.
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# '''Live-Action Film and TV''': While filmmakers do work to create a visual look that may tie to the script, they have many limitations. Characters' appearances are largely determined by actors' appearances, which due to AbilityOverAppearance may differ from the script. Additionally, the bold [[MovieSuperheroesWearBlack color contrasts seen in animated media often don't work]] in live-action. That said, appearance tropes relating to costuming, makeup, and color saturation are often meaningful for characterization.
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# '''{{Literature}}''': Books don't need to tell you anything about what a character looks like. If they do, it's almost certainly important.
# '''{{Fan Fiction}}''': Similar to literature, although fanfic writers do love SelfFanservice and CostumePorn, making meaning slightly less likely.
# '''ComicBooks''': A highly visual medium with little text and a tendency towards BlackAndWhiteMorality (traditionally), so using visual shorthands for characterization is common.
# '''Anime and Manga''': The medium is prone to AdaptationDyeJob and YouGottaHaveBlueHair, with character appearances chosen to give characters unique looks despite OnlySixFaces. But the medium is also characterized by a high degree of creative control over characters appearances, heightening the likelihood that appearance and characterization and linked. The number of anime-specific appearance+characterization tropes (ShyBlueHairedGirl, CherryBlossomGirl, etc) suggests that YouGottaHaveBlueHair can be used meaningfully. However, due to {{Mukokuseki}} character appearances are often not literal in-universe, and so be careful about any tropes that rely on a difference between the real world and fiction.
# '''{{Webcomics}}''': Similar to Comic Books and Anime, although the wide range of styles in webcomics, including the StickFigureComic, often means that certain appearance tropes are not possible and colors may simply exist to provide contrast.
# '''WesternAnimation''': A mixed bag. Anime-type usage sometimes appears, particularly in higher-budget full-length (Disneyesque) films and modern CGI or anime-influenced productions. However, a long history of LimitedAnimation, particularly in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfAnimation, led to a convention of character designs being chosen for visual distinctiveness rather than meaning (see PieEyed, WhiteGloves). Add that to a historical focus on FunnyAnimals and older cartoons being in black and white, and you get a tendency towards non-meaningful or aesthetics-driven character appearances.
# '''Live-Action Film and TV''': While filmmakers do work to create a visual look that may tie to the script, they have many limitations. Characters' appearances are largely determined by actors' appearances, which due to AbilityOverAppearance may differ from the script. Additionally, the bold [[MovieSuperheroesWearBlack color contrasts seen animated media often don't work]] in live-action. That said, appearance tropes relating to costuming, makeup, and color saturation are often meaningful for characterization.
# '''VideoGames''': MeaningfulAppearance may show up in series with an iconic protagonist or a small cast of recurring characters. However, several features of the medium conspire against appearance being used meaningfully:
** Older games had graphics too poor to provide much detail on characters appearances. Colors are likely to have been chosen for color contrast.
** Cut scenes and different types of sprites may modify minor details of character appearances such as eye color, body type, etc.
** Some games don't focus much on characterization, making the "meaningful" aspect difficult. Tropes such as HeroicMime and first person perspective make the protagonist's personality and/or appearance difficult to glean.
** Many games feature customizable or randomly chosen character appearance that necessarily isn't linked to characterization.
# '''Music''': Musicians often choose their visual look carefully. But some don't, and musicians' appearances are just what they happen to look like! And even if chosen carefully, musicians' appearances are often just to look cool or different, not convey specific things about characterization. Trope the real people in bands' appearances with caution. {{Music Video}}s are a different story. A highly concise and deliberate visual medium, appearance is often all you get for characters in a music video, rocketing them up to just above the Live Action Film rung.
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# '''{{Literature}}''': Books don't need to tell you anything about what a character looks like. If they do, it's almost certainly important.
# '''{{Fan Fiction}}''': Similar to literature, although fanfic writers do love SelfFanservice and CostumePorn, making meaning slightly less likely.
# '''ComicBooks''': A highly visual medium with little text and a tendency towards BlackAndWhiteMorality (traditionally), so using visual shorthands for characterization is common.
# '''Anime and Manga''': The medium is prone to AdaptationDyeJob and YouGottaHaveBlueHair, with character appearances chosen to give characters unique looks despite OnlySixFaces. But the medium is also characterized by a high degree of creative control over characters appearances, heightening the likelihood that appearance and characterization and linked. The number of anime-specific appearance+characterization tropes (ShyBlueHairedGirl, CherryBlossomGirl, etc) suggests that YouGottaHaveBlueHair can be used meaningfully. However, due to {{Mukokuseki}} character appearances are often not literal in-universe, and so be careful about any tropes that rely on a difference between the real world and fiction.
# '''{{Webcomics}}''': Similar to Comic Books and Anime, although the wide range of styles in webcomics, including the StickFigureComic, often means that certain appearance tropes are not possible and colors may simply exist to provide contrast.
# '''WesternAnimation''': A mixed bag. Anime-type usage sometimes appears, particularly in higher-budget full-length (Disneyesque) films and modern CGI or anime-influenced productions. However, a long history of LimitedAnimation, particularly in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfAnimation, led to a convention of character designs being chosen for visual distinctiveness rather than meaning (see PieEyed, WhiteGloves). Add that to a historical focus on FunnyAnimals and older cartoons being in black and white, and you get a tendency towards non-meaningful or aesthetics-driven character appearances.
# '''Live-Action Film and TV''': While filmmakers do work to create a visual look that may tie to the script, they have many limitations. Characters' appearances are largely determined by actors' appearances, which due to AbilityOverAppearance may differ from the script. Additionally, the bold [[MovieSuperheroesWearBlack color contrasts seen animated media often don't work]] in live-action. That said, appearance tropes relating to costuming, makeup, and color saturation are often meaningful for characterization.
# '''VideoGames''': MeaningfulAppearance may show up in series with an iconic protagonist or a small cast of recurring characters. However, several features of the medium conspire against appearance being used meaningfully:
** Older games had graphics too poor to provide much detail on characters appearances. Colors are likely to have been chosen for color contrast.
** Cut scenes and different types of sprites may modify minor details of character appearances such as eye color, body type, etc.
** Some games don't focus much on characterization, making the "meaningful" aspect difficult. Tropes such as HeroicMime and first person perspective make the protagonist's personality and/or appearance difficult to glean.
** Many games feature customizable or randomly chosen character appearance that necessarily isn't linked to characterization.
# '''Music''': Musicians often choose their visual look carefully. But some don't, and musicians' appearances are just what they happen to look like! And even if chosen carefully, musicians' appearances are often just to look cool or different, not convey specific things about characterization. Trope the real people in bands' appearances with caution. {{Music Video}}s are a different story. A highly concise and deliberate visual medium, appearance is often all you get for characters in a music video, rocketing them up to just above the Live Action Film rung.
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The [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1566534316062550600&page=2#31 TRS thread]] for EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses voted to replace that trope with a number of subtropes.
[[PrincessPhase Little girls love princesses.]] For that reason, princesses are far more common in media, particularly media aimed at little girls then they have any right to be. Princesses are far more common than duchesses, queens, ladies-in-waiting, or any other type of nobility. Media will even shoehorn characters from societies that don't have princesses, such as TheChiefsDaughter, into a princess role.
In short, this trope is when a work has far more princesses than would make sense for the setting or original story. Several other tropes also involve this concept:
* Good Princess, Evil Queen (TLP draft): Princesses are always, good, while queens are evil, so there are more princesses
* PrincessProtagonist: Princesses as a heroine
* PrincessesRule: A kingdom is ruled by a princess, even though logically that would make her a queen
* SaveThePrincess: An ExcusePlot involving, well, saving the princess, which inserts a princess into a work that otherwise doesn't focus on them.
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* Franchise/DisneyPrincess may be the best-known work to capitalize on children's love of princesses. Starting with PrincessClassic films such as ''Disney/Cinderella'' and ''Disney/SleepingBeauty''
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The [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1566534316062550600&page=2#31 TRS thread]] for EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses voted to replace that trope with a number of subtropes.
[[PrincessPhase Little girls love princesses.]] For that reason, princesses are far more common in media, particularly media aimed at little girls then they have any right to be. Princesses are far more common than duchesses, queens, ladies-in-waiting, or any other type of nobility. Media will even shoehorn characters from societies that don't have princesses, such as TheChiefsDaughter, into a princess role.
In short, this trope is when a work has far more princesses than would make sense for the setting or original story. Several other tropes also involve this concept:
* Good Princess, Evil Queen (TLP draft): Princesses are always, good, while queens are evil, so there are more princesses
* PrincessProtagonist: Princesses as a heroine
* PrincessesRule: A kingdom is ruled by a princess, even though logically that would make her a queen
* SaveThePrincess: An ExcusePlot involving, well, saving the princess, which inserts a princess into a work that otherwise doesn't focus on them.
!!Examples
[[AC: Film-Animated]]
* Franchise/DisneyPrincess may be the best-known work to capitalize on children's love of princesses. Starting with PrincessClassic films such as ''Disney/Cinderella'' and ''Disney/SleepingBeauty''
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The [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1566534316062550600&page=2#31 TRS thread]] for EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses voted to replace that trope with a number of subtropes.
[[PrincessPhase Little girls love princesses.]] For that reason, princesses are far more common in media, particularly media aimed at little girls then they have any right to be. Princesses are far more common than duchesses, queens, ladies-in-waiting, or any other type of nobility. Media will even shoehorn characters from societies that don't have princesses, such as TheChiefsDaughter, into a princess role.
In short, this trope is when a work has far more princesses than would make sense for the setting or original story. Several other tropes also involve this concept:
* Good Princess, Evil Queen (TLP draft): Princesses are always, good, while queens are evil, so there are more princesses
* PrincessProtagonist: Princesses as a heroine
* PrincessesRule: A kingdom is ruled by a princess, even though logically that would make her a queen
* SaveThePrincess: An ExcusePlot involving, well, saving the princess, which inserts a princess into a work that otherwise doesn't focus on them.
!!Examples
[[AC: Film-Animated]]
* Franchise/DisneyPrincess may be the best-known work to capitalize on children's love of princesses. Starting with PrincessClassic films such as ''Disney/Cinderella'' and ''Disney/SleepingBeauty''
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There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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[[folder: Artsy Beret Image Pickin']]
There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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[[folder: Artsy Beret Image Pickin']]
There were a number of images proposed in the TLP draft. Perhaps a collage would be best?
1:[[quoteright:200:[[VideoGame/YandereSimulator https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/geijutsuka.png]]]]
2. [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/passpartout_the_starving_artist_5.jpg]]
3. [[quoteright:342:[[Franchise/{{LEGO}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/legoartist.jpg]]]]
4. (I would only include this if it was in a collage) [[quoteright:350:[[Film/LivingInOblivion http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wolf_beret.jpg]]]]
5. [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/File:Adeleine_Kirby64_render.png Adeleine]]
6. [[https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/File:EverybodyLikesRad348.png Director Guy from "Everybody Likes Rad?"]]
7 & 8. [[https://making-friendos.tumblr.com/post/177844977046/jenhedgehog-my-weaksauce-attempt-at-designing-a Two]] [[https://tweeterbirds.tumblr.com/post/178164097916/are-you-okay-with-people-making-fan-art-of-your for]] (second pic) Madame, a [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Lapis and Peridot]] [[FusionDance fan fusion]]. Fanart, so we'd need permission.
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TRS draft for ManInWhite
There has been some confusion about what ManInWhite actually is. I believe that the vague title and long and rambling description contribute to this, and that both should be fixed.
I think this trope should be called VillainInAWhiteSuit, and narrowed down to this aspect of the description:
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...in most cases, it signifies that the character is up to no good.
There's just something about a man in white that [[UncannyValley weirds people out]]. One possible explanation for this is that since conservative men's attire has been dark-colored for the longest time (black, charcoal, and navy), looking upon a man in white creates a sensation not unlike a color-inverted image. Another one is that since [[ColorMotif white is also the color of snow and bone]], an all-white ensemble evokes sensations of [[EvilIsDeathlyCold coldness]] and [[SnowMeansDeath death]].
In the US, white suits have also come to be associated with Southern plantation owners, leading to the birth of the FatSweatySouthernerInAWhiteSuit. As such, white clothing in American media can also be used to suggest pride, avarice, ambition, and questionable morality, which is why you can see so many [[TheMafia mafiosos]], [[TheCartel drug lords]], and {{corrupt corporate executive}}s in such garb. For a more in-depth treatise on the subject, see [[http://www.slate.com/id/2119498/ this article]].
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This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddles the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
Wick Check (1147 wicks). My notes in '''bold'''.
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* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''context could be improved, but is definitely a villain'''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
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* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
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* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
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[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
'''I was able to figure out that the referenced character was a villain by a quick skim of the page, or the entry explains the villain part but not the wears white part'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit.
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
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Wick check results:
The context on these examples in general is not good. Most of the entries in the non-zce categories is still insufficient for my liking, but I was able to get the gist of the meaning.
'''Villain wears white suit''': 7 (14%)
'''Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit''': 12 (24%)
''' Other symbolism''': 7 (14%) A mix of meanings, but most seem to be LightIsGood or "mysterious otheworldly figure" akin to WomanInWhite.
'''Insufficient context/not meaningful''': 24 (48%)
Conclusions:
* Nearly 50% ZCE or bad examples, supporting a rename and rewrite
* Villain in a White Suit is the most common definition
* Other valid (according to confusing description) examples are potentially covered by other tropes, pending [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1504834266097540800&page=4#78 resolution of Woman In White discussion]]
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TRS draft for ManInWhite
There has been some confusion about what ManInWhite actually is. I believe that the vague title and long and rambling description contribute to this, and that both should be fixed.
I think this trope should be called VillainInAWhiteSuit, and narrowed down to this aspect of the description:
[[quoteblock]]
...in most cases, it signifies that the character is up to no good.
There's just something about a man in white that [[UncannyValley weirds people out]]. One possible explanation for this is that since conservative men's attire has been dark-colored for the longest time (black, charcoal, and navy), looking upon a man in white creates a sensation not unlike a color-inverted image. Another one is that since [[ColorMotif white is also the color of snow and bone]], an all-white ensemble evokes sensations of [[EvilIsDeathlyCold coldness]] and [[SnowMeansDeath death]].
In the US, white suits have also come to be associated with Southern plantation owners, leading to the birth of the FatSweatySouthernerInAWhiteSuit. As such, white clothing in American media can also be used to suggest pride, avarice, ambition, and questionable morality, which is why you can see so many [[TheMafia mafiosos]], [[TheCartel drug lords]], and {{corrupt corporate executive}}s in such garb. For a more in-depth treatise on the subject, see [[http://www.slate.com/id/2119498/ this article]].
[[/quoteblock]]
This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddles the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
Wick Check (1147 wicks). My notes in '''bold'''.
[[folder: Villain wears white suit]]
* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''context could be improved, but is definitely a villain'''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Other meaningful use of man wearing white]]
* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: ZCE/Just a guy in white]]
* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
'''I was able to figure out that the referenced character was a villain by a quick skim of the page, or the entry explains the villain part but not the wears white part'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit.
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
[[/folder]]
Wick check results:
The context on these examples in general is not good. Most of the entries in the non-zce categories is still insufficient for my liking, but I was able to get the gist of the meaning.
'''Villain wears white suit''': 7 (14%)
'''Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit''': 12 (24%)
''' Other symbolism''': 7 (14%) A mix of meanings, but most seem to be LightIsGood or "mysterious otheworldly figure" akin to WomanInWhite.
'''Insufficient context/not meaningful''': 24 (48%)
Conclusions:
* Nearly 50% ZCE or bad examples, supporting a rename and rewrite
* Villain in a White Suit is the most common definition
* Other valid (according to confusing description) examples are potentially covered by other tropes, pending [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1504834266097540800&page=4#78 resolution of Woman In White discussion]]
to:
* BornWithArmor: A character enters the world wearing armor, which may be part of their body
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TRS draft for ManInWhite
There has been some confusion about what ManInWhite actually is. I believe that the vague title and long and rambling description contribute to this, and that both should be fixed.
I think this trope should be called VillainInAWhiteSuit, and narrowed down to this aspect of the description:
[[quoteblock]]
...in most cases, it signifies that the character is up to no good.
There's just something about a man in white that [[UncannyValley weirds people out]]. One possible explanation for this is that since conservative men's attire has been dark-colored for the longest time (black, charcoal, and navy), looking upon a man in white creates a sensation not unlike a color-inverted image. Another one is that since [[ColorMotif white is also the color of snow and bone]], an all-white ensemble evokes sensations of [[EvilIsDeathlyCold coldness]] and [[SnowMeansDeath death]].
In the US, white suits have also come to be associated with Southern plantation owners, leading to the birth of the FatSweatySouthernerInAWhiteSuit. As such, white clothing in American media can also be used to suggest pride, avarice, ambition, and questionable morality, which is why you can see so many [[TheMafia mafiosos]], [[TheCartel drug lords]], and {{corrupt corporate executive}}s in such garb. For a more in-depth treatise on the subject, see [[http://www.slate.com/id/2119498/ this article]].
[[/quoteblock]]
This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddles the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
Wick Check (1147 wicks). My notes in '''bold'''.
[[folder: Villain wears white suit]]
* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''context could be improved, but is definitely a villain'''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Other meaningful use of man wearing white]]
* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: ZCE/Just a guy in white]]
* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
'''I was able to figure out that the referenced character was a villain by a quick skim of the page, or the entry explains the villain part but not the wears white part'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit.
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
[[/folder]]
Wick check results:
The context on these examples in general is not good. Most of the entries in the non-zce categories is still insufficient for my liking, but I was able to get the gist of the meaning.
'''Villain wears white suit''': 7 (14%)
'''Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit''': 12 (24%)
''' Other symbolism''': 7 (14%) A mix of meanings, but most seem to be LightIsGood or "mysterious otheworldly figure" akin to WomanInWhite.
'''Insufficient context/not meaningful''': 24 (48%)
Conclusions:
* Nearly 50% ZCE or bad examples, supporting a rename and rewrite
* Villain in a White Suit is the most common definition
* Other valid (according to confusing description) examples are potentially covered by other tropes, pending [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1504834266097540800&page=4#78 resolution of Woman In White discussion]]body
----
TRS draft for ManInWhite
There has been some confusion about what ManInWhite actually is. I believe that the vague title and long and rambling description contribute to this, and that both should be fixed.
I think this trope should be called VillainInAWhiteSuit, and narrowed down to this aspect of the description:
[[quoteblock]]
...in most cases, it signifies that the character is up to no good.
There's just something about a man in white that [[UncannyValley weirds people out]]. One possible explanation for this is that since conservative men's attire has been dark-colored for the longest time (black, charcoal, and navy), looking upon a man in white creates a sensation not unlike a color-inverted image. Another one is that since [[ColorMotif white is also the color of snow and bone]], an all-white ensemble evokes sensations of [[EvilIsDeathlyCold coldness]] and [[SnowMeansDeath death]].
In the US, white suits have also come to be associated with Southern plantation owners, leading to the birth of the FatSweatySouthernerInAWhiteSuit. As such, white clothing in American media can also be used to suggest pride, avarice, ambition, and questionable morality, which is why you can see so many [[TheMafia mafiosos]], [[TheCartel drug lords]], and {{corrupt corporate executive}}s in such garb. For a more in-depth treatise on the subject, see [[http://www.slate.com/id/2119498/ this article]].
[[/quoteblock]]
This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddles the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
Wick Check (1147 wicks). My notes in '''bold'''.
[[folder: Villain wears white suit]]
* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''context could be improved, but is definitely a villain'''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Other meaningful use of man wearing white]]
* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: ZCE/Just a guy in white]]
* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
'''I was able to figure out that the referenced character was a villain by a quick skim of the page, or the entry explains the villain part but not the wears white part'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit.
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
[[/folder]]
Wick check results:
The context on these examples in general is not good. Most of the entries in the non-zce categories is still insufficient for my liking, but I was able to get the gist of the meaning.
'''Villain wears white suit''': 7 (14%)
'''Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit''': 12 (24%)
''' Other symbolism''': 7 (14%) A mix of meanings, but most seem to be LightIsGood or "mysterious otheworldly figure" akin to WomanInWhite.
'''Insufficient context/not meaningful''': 24 (48%)
Conclusions:
* Nearly 50% ZCE or bad examples, supporting a rename and rewrite
* Villain in a White Suit is the most common definition
* Other valid (according to confusing description) examples are potentially covered by other tropes, pending [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1504834266097540800&page=4#78 resolution of Woman In White discussion]]
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This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddling the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
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This is a coherent, meaningful subtrope of LightIsNotGood. But then the rest of the description muddles this, implying that any instance of a man wearing white is an example of the trope (making it a meaningless appearance trope), and also muddling muddles the distinction between this and WomanInWhite.
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* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears. '''Character is a villain'''
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'''I was able to figure out that the referenced character was a villain by a quick skim of the page, or the entry explains the villain part but not the wears white part'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit. '''Character is a villain'''\n
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.'''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit.
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears.
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Wick check results:
The context on these examples in general is not good. Most of the entries in the non-zce categories is still insufficient for my liking, but I was able to get the gist of the meaning.
'''Villain wears white suit''': 7 (14%)
'''Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit''': 12 (24%)
''' Other symbolism''': 7 (14%) A mix of meanings, but most seem to be LightIsGood or "mysterious otheworldly figure" akin to WomanInWhite.
'''Insufficient context/not meaningful''': 24 (48%)
Conclusions:
* Nearly 50% ZCE or bad examples, supporting a rename and rewrite
* Villain in a White Suit is the most common definition
* Other valid (according to confusing description) examples are potentially covered by other tropes, pending [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1504834266097540800&page=4#78 resolution of Woman In White discussion]]
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[[folder: Villain wears white suit]]
* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''NOTE: context could be improved, but is definitely a villain''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
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[[folder: Other meaningful use of man wearing white]]
* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: ZCE/Just a guy in white]]
* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
*Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Villain wears white suit]]
* Characters/BayonettaParadiso: His predominantly white outfit gives him a rather ominous presence. '''NOTE: context could be improved, but is definitely a villain''
* Characters/KamenRiderDriveMovieExclusiveCharactersWears a pure white suit, which directly contrasts him with his pursuer, Dark Drive. [[spoiler:Also swerves into LightIsNotGood.]] '''Weak on the context'''
* Characters/TribeTwelve: Wears very light clothing, and his intentions are far from good.
* Comicbook/MoonKnight: His suit is as white as the moon. He does it so his targets can see him coming, and their fear is a much better tool for him than sneaking up in the shadows. Given his violent tendencies, it's hard to say if LightIsGood or not.
* OneSceneWonder/LiveActionFilms: Pothole: Peter Stormare also provides what is probably the only universally acclaimed part of ''Film/{{Constantine}}'' - his portrayal of Lucifer as a [[ManInWhite white-clad]], oil-oozing sociopath with a face like melted candle wax is one of the most [[CreepyAwesome chillingly compelling]] movie depictions of Satan ever. It's a close competition between him and Viggo Mortensen (also on this list, higher up) for who made a creepier Devil.
* Recap/SmallvilleS07E12Fracture: In Lex's mind, Evil!Lex wears a white suit.
* Recap/VinesauceTomodachiLife: Pothole
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Other meaningful use of man wearing white]]
* Characters/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi: Of the mysterious kind. '''weak on context'''
* Characters/CloudAtlasAnOrisonOfSonmi451: Which serves to emphasize his authority and good motivations. [[spoiler: Subverted in the book, where he's ultimately part of the corporate conspiracy]].
* ComicBook/BetaRayBill: Left on the brink of death after defeating Omega Ray, Bill's soul was transferred into the newly-dead body of Simon Walters after an encounter with a mysterious Man in White.
* Podcast/Trailblazers: A recurring character is literally refered to as the "Man in White". [[spoiler:[[AngelUnaware Revealed in the final episode of the season to be the angel Gabriel.]]]]
* Series/IntoTheBadlands: The Preacher is dressed in white head to toe. Given that he is the only character who wears that much white, he stands out a lot.
* Theatre/Elisabeth: Death wears white at some point of every production. In some versions he only wears white in the prologue and final scene, and in others he spends almost half the show in white.
* Wrestling/JinseiShinzaki: His entrance and ring attires are always blinding white, which represents both his spiritual path and his lethal skills.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: ZCE/Just a guy in white]]
* Characters/DOGSBulletsAndCarnage: ZCE
* Characters/FireEmblemRadiantDawnProtagonists: He has this look, like his siblings.
* Characters/TheBraveExpressMightGaine: He wore a white suit paired with a teal shirt and red tie for a governmental meeting in episode 5.
* Characters/WormUndersiders: Is often seen wearing white.
* DarthWiki/AbsoluteSwordStrata: Demonstrates his god complex and illustrates his game name perfectly.
* FanDisservice/VideoGames: VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters: Saiki's underling Magaki is no slouch on this. In ''XI'' the player's led to think that he's a super classy ManInWhite... but as he/she get ready to face him in battle, Magaki's skin turns pink, he has blue energy markings around his body, and his face looks more insectoid than human. Not to mention his [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080626165429/snk/images/6/6c/Magaki-sprite1.gif fighting stance]] is ''really'' creepy-looking.
* Film/BulletInTheHead: Luke wears a nice white suit.
* Film/RedHeat: Pothole
* Characters/TalesOfBerseriaMagilousMenagerie: Wears a white sailor dress.
* Film/HeartOfDarkness1958: The Accountant wears a white suit, which remains impeccable even in the middle of the jungle. (He claims he never perspires.)
* Film/MasterOfTheWorld: His sometime black cape aside, Robur tends to prefer dressing in an entirely white captain's outfit.
* Film/TheWagesOfFear: Several characters, most prominently Mario and Jo, are shown wearing a white suit in the first act.
* Literature/BloodMeridian: When the judge has some money and the opportunity, he buys white suits. '''possibly symbolic'''
*Literature/Nevermore2010: Reynolds, a mysterious man who leaves flowers every year on Poe's grave. '''possibly symbolic'''
* Literature/ThePlagueDogs: Pothole '''possibly symbolic'''
* Manga/YozakuraQuartet: Shinozuka and Yuuhi in his adult form.
* Music/BuckTick: [from SharpDressedMan entry:] Once or twice he's successfully experimented with GorgeousPeriodDress or being a ManInWhite. Basically he looks good in a suit, whatever the style or color.
* Music/TheRollingStones: Brian Jones, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foH-pi4BnwI in this presentation]].
* Recap/CornerGasS1E08CousinCarl: Pothole in SharpDressedMan entry: Also, the Man from Glad and his trademark [[ManInWhite white suit]].
* Series/GaroTheOneWhoShinesInTheDarkness: Pothole
* VideoGame/D4: Roland Walken dresses in an all-white suit and wears a white surgical mask. '''possibly symbolic'''
* VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Bruce Goodman
* Webcomic/DokiDokiCheckMate: Evan dresses in mostly white clothing.
* WesternAnimation/TheOddballCouple: Spiffy wears a white suit...
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Insufficient context, but fits Villain In A White Suit]]
* Characters/CardfightVanguardG: Wears a predominantly white outfit. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/ConstantineFilm Wears a white suit when he appears. '''Character is a villain'''
* Characters/DescendantsOfDarkness: ZCE ''character is a villain'''
* FanFic/LikeOneSunderedStar: Doc Scratch for the bad guys, and Dad Egbert on the heros' side. [[spoiler:Well, until he reveals his true loyalties, at which point it looks more like he's imitating Scratch.]]
* Fanfic/SilentPonyvilleChronicles Demitri. '''commented out as a ZCE'''
* Film/LordOfWar: Andre Baptiste, Sr. favors a pure white uniform, except on ceremonial occasions.
* Anime/DevilmanCrybaby: Ryo's signature outfit consists of a long, white fur coat. Most of his other attire is similarly white.
* Film/TheFifteenSeventeenToParis: The only clothes El-Khazzani wears during his attack is bright white sweatpants. It really makes him stand out from the other passengers and the train’s drab interiors. '''character also listed under LightIsNotGood'''
* LightIsNotGood/VideoGames: ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'': Abstergo Industries, the PresentDay incarnation of the Templar Order, favour sterile white surroundings, with BigBad Dr. Vidic as a ManInWhite.
* SelfDemonstrating/Katz: My outfit in "Klub Katz" and "Katz Under The Sea".
* VideoGame/TheEvilWithin: Ruvik wears a white robe as part of his outfit. This serves to make him seem even more wraithlike, standing out amidst his dark surroundings.
* Series/Identity: Up to no good indeed Mr Shea.
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