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* CreatorBacklash: Tolstoy came to criticize ''War and Peace'' for [[{{Doorstopper}} its length]] and [[WriterOnBoard a philosophical argument about how]] "great" men of history count for very little and are but figureheads of forces beyond their control. Though he still stood by his views, Tolstoy thought ''War and Peace'' would be better without these tangents.

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* CreatorBacklash: Tolstoy came to criticize ''War and Peace'' for [[{{Doorstopper}} its length]] and [[WriterOnBoard a philosophical argument about the times he stopped the plot to show how]] "great" men of history count for very little and are but figureheads of forces beyond their control. Though he still stood by his views, Tolstoy thought ''War and Peace'' would be better without these tangents.
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* CreatorBacklash: Tolstoy came to criticize ''War and Peace'' for [[{{Doorstopper}} its length]] and [[WriterOnBoard a philosophical argument about how]] "great" men of history count for very little and that they are figureheads of forces beyond their control. Though he still stands by his views, Tolstoy thought ''War and Peace'' would be better without these tangents.

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* CreatorBacklash: Tolstoy came to criticize ''War and Peace'' for [[{{Doorstopper}} its length]] and [[WriterOnBoard a philosophical argument about how]] "great" men of history count for very little and that they are but figureheads of forces beyond their control. Though he still stands stood by his views, Tolstoy thought ''War and Peace'' would be better without these tangents.

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* CreatorBacklash: Tolstoy came to criticize ''War and Peace'' for [[{{Doorstopper}} its length]] and [[WriterOnBoard a philosophical argument about how]] "great" men of history count for very little and that they are figureheads of forces beyond their control. Though he still stands by his views, Tolstoy thought ''War and Peace'' would be better without these tangents.



** Unlike what was said in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', however, [[Music/TheTemptations "War, Whai Is It Good For?"]] was never considered as a title for the book, much less did it change Tolstoy's mistress didn't like it or inspire the title for the song.

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** Unlike what was said in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', however, [[Music/TheTemptations "War, Whai Is It Good For?"]] "War"]] was never considered as a title for the book, much less did it change Tolstoy's mistress didn't like it or inspire the title for the song.

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Trivia for the [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1956 1956]], [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1966 1966]], [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1972 1972]], and [[Trivia/WarAndPeace2016 2016]] adaptations go on their respective pages.

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Trivia for the [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1956 1956]], [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1966 1966]], [[Trivia/WarAndPeace1972 1972]], [[Trivia/WarAndPeace2007 2007]], and [[Trivia/WarAndPeace2016 2016]] adaptations go on their respective pages.



* FakeRussian: The 2007 miniseries is particularly bad about this, with the French Creator/ClemencePoesy as Natasha, the German Alexander Beyer as Pierre, the Italians Alessio Boni as Andrei, Valentina Cervi as Marya, and Violante Placido as Helene... Actually averted with Dimitri Isayev as Nikolai, however - he's actually Russian, and is most famous as Tsar Alexander II in the immensely popular Russian telenovela ''Bednaya Nastya''.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The 1977 miniseries was shot in Yugoslavia.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: The 1977 miniseries was shot in Yugoslavia.Yugoslavia, not the setting of Russia.

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* FakeNationality: Frenchman Napoleon Bonaparte is played by Russian Vladislav Strzhelchik in the 1966 Soviet version, and English David Swift in the 1977 miniseries.
* TakeThat: This has been stated as one of the main reasons the 1966 version exists. To quote an open letter by the Soviet film industry:
-->''It is a matter of honor for the Soviet cinema industry, to produce a picture which will surpass the American-Italian one in its artistic merit and authenticity.''
* TroubledProduction:
** The 1966 version however, was arguably even more worse of a movie to shoot. This was on top of the fact that the Soviet government was heavily banking on the movie to outdo the 1956 version AND was very likely keeping a close eye on things. For example...
*** The Borzoi dogs used in the hunting sequence were not trained to hunt down wolves, as in the book. The crew had to resort using off-screen scent hounds to scatter the wolves and the Borzois released to catch them.
*** Ten percent of the movie had to be reshot due to the shoddy quality of the 70mm film stock, which was locally made. This too is probably part of the reason no 70mm version survives today - the print restored by Mosfilm and used for the Criterion Collectiom edition is from a 35mm duplicate.
*** Alexander Shelenkov and Iolanda Chen, cinematographers of the first two parts, quit after one too many an argument with Bondarchuk.
*** The film went overbudget during the filming of the Battle of Schongraben, as seen in Part I.
*** The Battle of Borodino in Part III was supposed to be shot in thirteen days. It took three months before filming there wrapped up.
*** And finally, Bondarchuk suffered several major heart attacks during production. Two of them rendered him clinically dead for a few minutes.
* UncreditedRole: Famed thespian [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stephens Robert Stephens]] makes his film debut in the 1956 version as a Russian officer.
* WagTheDirector: In perhaps the most egregious usage of the trope in history, it's been rumored that Ivan Pyryev, a veteran Soviet director, was passed over for the younger and non-CPSU member Sergei Bondarchuk, was because of the former's political enemies.

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* FakeNationality: Frenchman Napoleon Bonaparte is played by Russian Vladislav Strzhelchik in the 1966 Soviet version, and English David Swift in the 1977 miniseries.
* TakeThat: This has been stated as one of the main reasons the 1966 version exists. To quote an open letter by the Soviet film industry:
-->''It is a matter of honor for the Soviet cinema industry, to produce a picture which will surpass the American-Italian one in its artistic merit and authenticity.''
* TroubledProduction:
** The 1966 version however, was arguably even more worse of a movie to shoot. This was on top of the fact that the Soviet government was heavily banking on the movie to outdo the 1956 version AND was very likely keeping a close eye on things. For example...
*** The Borzoi dogs used in the hunting sequence were not trained to hunt down wolves, as in the book. The crew had to resort using off-screen scent hounds to scatter the wolves and the Borzois released to catch them.
*** Ten percent of the movie had to be reshot due to the shoddy quality of the 70mm film stock, which was locally made. This too is probably part of the reason no 70mm version survives today - the print restored by Mosfilm and used for the Criterion Collectiom edition is from a 35mm duplicate.
*** Alexander Shelenkov and Iolanda Chen, cinematographers of the first two parts, quit after one too many an argument with Bondarchuk.
*** The film went overbudget during the filming of the Battle of Schongraben, as seen in Part I.
*** The Battle of Borodino in Part III was supposed to be shot in thirteen days. It took three months before filming there wrapped up.
*** And finally, Bondarchuk suffered several major heart attacks during production. Two of them rendered him clinically dead for a few minutes.
* UncreditedRole: Famed thespian [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stephens Robert Stephens]] makes his film debut in the 1956 version as a Russian officer.
* WagTheDirector: In perhaps the most egregious usage of the trope in history, it's been rumored that Ivan Pyryev, a veteran Soviet director, was passed over for the younger and non-CPSU member Sergei Bondarchuk, was because of the former's political enemies.
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