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* GenrePopularizer: They were highly influential to the BlackMetal scene, along with Music/{{Bathory}}. ''Welcome to Hell'' is also a candidate for the first ThrashMetal album.
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** One of Mark Bagley's early "[[WorkingTitle Chaos]]" (Carnage) [[http://art.cafimg.com/images/Category_13461/subcat_171727/12Bxsu5C_0902161742341.jpg designs]] was more or less reused for Scream.
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** Cullen Bunn had intended to resurrect Anti-Venom for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, but those plans were kiboshed by Marvel cancelling it after Volume 2 was finished. In ''AXIS: Hobgoblin'', a new Anti-Venom cameos as one of Hobgoblin's enfranchised superheroes, though it's not explained who's wearing it or how Kingsley got his hands on a specimen of the supposedly-deceased symbiote.
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** Cullen Bunn had intended to resurrect Anti-Venom for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, but those plans were kiboshed by Marvel cancelling it after Volume 2 was finished. In ''AXIS: Hobgoblin'', a new Anti-Venom cameos as one of Hobgoblin's enfranchised superheroes, though it's not explained who's wearing it or how Kingsley got his hands on a specimen of the supposedly-deceased symbiote. In ''Venom Inc.'' Flash Thompson is exposed to an astrobiological serum derived from the original Anti-Venom while fighting with Eddie Brock over the symbiote, and is transformed into Agent Anti-Venom as a result.
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** In a more derisive example, [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] for Lee Price from Mike Costa's run largely because of his design and the large amounts of CharacterShilling for someone the fans despise.
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** In a more derisive example, [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] "[[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]]" for Lee Price from Mike Costa's run largely because of his design and the large amounts of CharacterShilling for someone the fans despise.
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** David Michelinie's original concept for Venom was a young woman who went insane after she miscarried due to witnessing her husband get run over by a driver accidentally distracted by Spider-Man.
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** In a more derisive example, [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] for Lee Price from Mike Costa's run largely because of his design and the large amounts of CharacterShilling for someone the fans despise.
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** When Cullen Bunn was devising his half of ''Venom'' Vol. 2, he had an idea for the Venom symbiote to spawn a demonic version of itself possessing the Hell Mark, which would bond to Eddie Brock. However, he decided that Eddie and Toxin needed more time together, and developed his Devil Venom idea into Mania.
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* CreatorsFavorite: Cullen Bunn mentioned that he ''constantly'' tries to Mania in every story he's hired to write but keeps getting turned down for various reasons.
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* CreatorsFavorite: Cullen Bunn mentioned that he ''constantly'' tries to Mania in every story he's hired to write but keeps getting turned down for various reasons.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The symbiote was originally going to have a female host, but this was reportedly rejected by Jim Salicrup (editor at the time).
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*** Michelinie's original intention was for a woman to be the human host. The proposed origin would've been that (while pregnant) she saw her husband killed in a car accident, went into labor from shock, and suffered a miscarriage. Between the driver having been distracted by looking at Spider-Man and the extreme emotional distress of all this, she would've blamed Spidey for her tragedy and been all-too willing to bond with the symbiote. When this pitch was rejected, Eddie Brock was subsequently created and the Sin-Eater storyline was used for his origin.
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** David Michelinie had intended right from the start to kill Eddie Brock off once Venom had become popular, and have the symbiote jump from host to host. Marvel kiboshed that in light of the character's popularity as an antihero, so he came up with ComicBook/{{Carnage}} as a replacement. In 2004, Mark Miller penned a story where Eddie and the symbiote went their separate ways, and while he is currently Toxin, Venom, it's had four main hosts and counting.
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** David Michelinie stated in an interview that he'd planned for Eddie Brock to be killed off early on and the symbiote to jump from host to host. Marvel refused to let him kill the character in light of his popularity as an antihero, and Carnage was created instead. [[{{Pun}} Flash]] forward ten-odd years and, while Eddie isn't dead, [[HilariousInHindsight the Venom symbiote's had several subsequent hosts.
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** David Michelinie stated in an interview that he'd planned for Eddie Brock to be killed off early on and the symbiote to jump from host to host. Marvel refused to let him kill the character in light of his popularity as an antihero, and Carnage was created instead. [[{{Pun}} Flash]] forward ten-odd years and, while Eddie isn't dead, [[HilariousInHindsight the Venom symbiote's had several subsequent hosts.hosts]].
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** Broxin for Eddie Brock as Toxin.
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** Cullen Bunn had a whole series of ideas planned out for the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper. Also, Eddie Brock was supposed to become Demon Venom[=/=]Mania, but wound up becoming Toxin while new character Andrea Benton became Mania.
*** [[DevelopmentGag A new Anti-Venom appears]] as one of Hobgoblin's underlings in ''AXIS: Hobgoblin''.
** Cullen Bunn had a whole series of ideas planned out for the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper. Also, Eddie Brock was supposed to become Demon Venom[=/=]Mania, but wound up becoming Toxin while new character Andrea Benton became Mania.
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** David Michelinie stated in an interview that he'd planned for Eddie Brock to be killed off early on and the symbiote to jump from host to host. Marvel refused to let him kill the character in light of his popularity as an antihero, and Carnage was created instead. [[{{Pun}} Flash]] forward ten-odd years, and years and, while Eddie isn't dead, [[HilariousInHindsight the Venom symbiote's had four several subsequent hosts and counting]], six if you count its clone.hosts.
** Cullen Bunn had awhole series number of ideas story arcs planned out for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, Toxin; and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper. Also, Eddie Brock was supposed to become Demon Venom[=/=]Mania, but wound up becoming Toxin while new character Andrea Benton became Mania.
***Mania. That said, a [[DevelopmentGag A new Anti-Venom appears]] Anti-Venom]] cameos as one of Hobgoblin's underlings in ''AXIS: Hobgoblin''.Hobgoblin'', and ''Venom: Space Knight'' resolves the Descent subplot with Mania.
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* TheMerch: The Xenophage got an action figure, though the packaging referred to him as "[[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/15659/2077379-phage_venom_front.jpg Phage]]".
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** The name "[[OneManArmy Agent]] Venom" was used by fans to Flash Thompson's black-ops Venom form, and was later canonized once Flash joined the Secret Avengers.
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** Cullen Bunn had intended to resurrect Anti-Venom for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, but those plans were kiboshed by Marvel cancelling it after Volume 2 was finished. In ''AXIS: Hobgoblin'', a new Anti-Venom appears cameos as one of Hobgoblin's enfranchised superheroes, though it's not explained who's wearing it or how Kingsley got his hands on a specimen of the supposedly-deceased symbiote.
** Fans have taken to calling Mac's and Flash's [[HulkingOut super-muscular]] monstrous forms "Vulk".
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** Agent Venom for Flash, which quickly became AscendedFanon.
** Broxin for Eddie Brock as Toxin.
** Agent Venom for Flash, which quickly became AscendedFanon.
** Broxin for Eddie Brock as Toxin.
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** The ''Venom: Carnage'' film that was to be a spinoff from the Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries was cancelled in 2015, following a deal between Marvel and Sony.
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* ThePeteBest: Clive Archer, their original vocalist who went under the name Jesus Christ. He performed on their first demo ''Demon''.
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** David Michelinie had intended right from the start to kill Eddie Brock off once Venom had become popular, and have the symbiote jump from host to host. Marvel kiboshed that in light of the cahartacter's character's popularity as an antihero, so he came up with ComicBook/{{Carnage}} as a replacement. In 2004, Mark Miller penned a story where Eddie and the symbiote went their separate ways, and while he is currently Toxin, it's had four main hosts and counting.
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* DevelopmentGag:
** David Michelinie had intended right from the start to kill Eddie Brock off once Venom had become popular, and have the symbiote jump from host to host. Marvel kiboshed that in light of the cahartacter's popularity as an antihero, so he came up with ComicBook/{{Carnage}} as a replacement. In 2004, Mark Miller penned a story where Eddie and the symbiote went their separate ways, and while he is currently Toxin, it's had four main hosts and counting.
** Cullen Bunn had intended to resurrect Anti-Venom for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, but those plans were kiboshed by Marvel cancelling it after Volume 2 was finished. In ''AXIS: Hobgoblin'', a new Anti-Venom appears as one of Hobgoblin's enfranchised superheroes, though it's not explained who's wearing it or how Kingsley got his hands on a specimen of the supposedly-deceased symbiote.
** An early idea for Venom was to have the symbiote bond to a woman who lost her child due to a car accident caused by a motorist being distracted by a fight involving Spider-Man. This discarded concept was seemingly recycled into the minor villain Coldheart, whose son was implied to have been a casualty of a battle possibly involving Spider-Man.
** David Michelinie had intended right from the start to kill Eddie Brock off once Venom had become popular, and have the symbiote jump from host to host. Marvel kiboshed that in light of the cahartacter's popularity as an antihero, so he came up with ComicBook/{{Carnage}} as a replacement. In 2004, Mark Miller penned a story where Eddie and the symbiote went their separate ways, and while he is currently Toxin, it's had four main hosts and counting.
** Cullen Bunn had intended to resurrect Anti-Venom for the third volume of the ''Venom'' series, but those plans were kiboshed by Marvel cancelling it after Volume 2 was finished. In ''AXIS: Hobgoblin'', a new Anti-Venom appears as one of Hobgoblin's enfranchised superheroes, though it's not explained who's wearing it or how Kingsley got his hands on a specimen of the supposedly-deceased symbiote.
** An early idea for Venom was to have the symbiote bond to a woman who lost her child due to a car accident caused by a motorist being distracted by a fight involving Spider-Man. This discarded concept was seemingly recycled into the minor villain Coldheart, whose son was implied to have been a casualty of a battle possibly involving Spider-Man.
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* FanNickname: Fan's have taken to calling Mac's and Flash's [[HulkingOut super-muscular]] monstrous forms "Vulk".
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Cronos has made guest appearances with Probot, Music/CradleOfFilth and Music/HammerFall
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The three albums made with Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan (''Prime Evil'', ''Temples of Ice'' and ''The Waste Lands'') have long since gone out print and have not been re-released.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The three albums made with Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan (''Prime Evil'', ''Temples of Ice'' and ''The Waste Lands'') have long since gone out print and have not been re-released.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Cronos has made guest appearances with Probot, Music/CradleOfFilth and Music/HammerFall
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The three albums made with Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan (''Prime Evil'', ''Temples of Ice'' and ''The Waste Lands'') have long since gone out print and have not been re-released.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The three albums made with Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan (''Prime Evil'', ''Temples of Ice'' and ''The Waste Lands'') have long since gone out print and have not been re-released.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The three albums made with Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan (''Prime Evil'', ''Temples of Ice'' and ''The Waste Lands'') have long since gone out print and have not been re-released.
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** Cullen Bunn had a whole series of ideas planned out for the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper. Also, Eddie Brock was supposed to become Demon Venom[=/=]Mania, but wound up becoming Toxin while new character Andrea Benton became Mania.
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** The fan-made names for the Life Foundation symbiotes - Agony, Lasher, Phage, and Riot - were canonized in the ''Carnage USA'' arc.
** The name "[[OneManArmy Agent]] Venom" was used by fans to Flash Thompson's black-ops Venom form, and was later canonized once Flash joined the Secret Avengers.
** The fan-made names for the Life Foundation symbiotes - Agony, Lasher, Phage, and Riot - were canonized in the ''Carnage USA'' arc.
** The name "[[OneManArmy Agent]] Venom" was used by fans to Flash Thompson's black-ops Venom form, and was later canonized once Flash joined the Secret Avengers.
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** David Michelinie stated in an interview that he'd planned for Eddie Brock to be killed off early on and the symbiote to jump from host to host. Marvel refused to let him kill the character in light of his popularity as an antihero, and Carnage was created instead. [[{{Pun}} Flash]] forward ten-odd years, and while Eddie isn't dead, [[HilariousInHindsight the Venom symbiote's had four subsequent hosts and counting]], six if you count its clone.
** Cullen Bunn had a whole series of ideas planned out for the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper.
** David Michelinie stated in an interview that he'd planned for Eddie Brock to be killed off early on and the symbiote to jump from host to host. Marvel refused to let him kill the character in light of his popularity as an antihero, and Carnage was created instead. [[{{Pun}} Flash]] forward ten-odd years, and while Eddie isn't dead, [[HilariousInHindsight the Venom symbiote's had four subsequent hosts and counting]], six if you count its clone.
** Cullen Bunn had a whole series of ideas planned out for the ''Venom'' series, including tying up the Descent subplot; the return of Anti-Venom for a "War for the Symbiote" arc also featuring Mania and Toxin, and Crime Master coming back from the dead. Marvel's cancellation of the series has, for now, flushed those plans down the dumper.
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