Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This is also not true - interviews from 2011 with people who are not Bendis revealed simply that Miles wasn’t fully ready yet and they didn’t have his storyline prepared. I cannot find where Bendis “went on record” but Wikipedia has an archived interview with Axel Alonso saying that Miles wasn’t ready yet.
Changed line(s) 4,6 (click to see context) from:
* RealitySubtext: Considering the death of Loeb's son, Magneto's vengeful retaliation against the world after the murder of his children can be read into plenty.
* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: This was originally intended to be the end of the Ultimate Comics line, but instead the line continued.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a last moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: This was originally intended to be the end of the Ultimate Comics line, but instead the line continued.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a last moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
to:
* RealitySubtext: Considering the death of Loeb's son, Magneto's vengeful retaliation against the world after the murder of his children can be read into plenty. \n* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: This was originally intended to be the end of the Ultimate Comics line, but instead the line continued.\n* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a last moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This is a misconception - interviews during the event indicate it was never intended to be a Series Finale for the entire line.
Deleted line(s) 3,5 (click to see context) :
* ExecutiveMeddling
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with an EverybodyDiesEnding, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
** Spider-Man was benefited by this. Bendis still had some last stories to narrate with Ultimate Peter Parker, so he was revealed to be NotQuiteDead by the end of the ''Requiem'' issue. This, however, was only temporary, and Parker only stayed for a short time while Bendis prepared things for ComicBook/MilesMorales.
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with an EverybodyDiesEnding, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
** Spider-Man was benefited by this. Bendis still had some last stories to narrate with Ultimate Peter Parker, so he was revealed to be NotQuiteDead by the end of the ''Requiem'' issue. This, however, was only temporary, and Parker only stayed for a short time while Bendis prepared things for ComicBook/MilesMorales.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: This was originally intended to be the end of the Ultimate Comics line, but instead the line continued.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with a KillEmAll ending, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
to:
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with a KillEmAll ending, an EverybodyDiesEnding, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 6 (click to see context) from:
* FranchiseKiller: The effects were not immediate, but ''Ultimatum'' ended up playing a major cause of the decline and collapse of the Ultimate Marvel line. The sheer death in the comic also cut many storylines short and the Ultimate universe's AllDeathsFinal mandate made the damage ''Ultimatum'' did impossible to fix.
to:
* FranchiseKiller: The effects were not immediate, but ''Ultimatum'' ended up playing a major cause being one of the main causes of the decline and collapse of the Ultimate Marvel line. The sheer death in the comic also cut many storylines short and the Ultimate universe's AllDeathsFinal mandate made the damage ''Ultimatum'' did impossible to fix.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 6 (click to see context) from:
* FranchiseKiller: Not at first, but ''Ultimatum'' ended up playing a key role in the breakdown and collapse of the Ultimate Marvel line.
to:
* FranchiseKiller: Not at first, The effects were not immediate, but ''Ultimatum'' ended up playing a key role in major cause of the breakdown decline and collapse of the Ultimate Marvel line.line. The sheer death in the comic also cut many storylines short and the Ultimate universe's AllDeathsFinal mandate made the damage ''Ultimatum'' did impossible to fix.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Magneto flipped the poles of the Earth to cause a worldwide cataclysm, and perhaps even an extinction-level event to destroy humanity. In 2021, real-world researchers [[https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/18/end-of-neanderthals-linked-to-flip-of-earths-magnetic-poles-study-suggests suggested]] that such a thing could have happened 42,000 years ago, leading to the extinction of megafauna and the Neanderthals.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FranchiseKiller: Not at first, but ''Ultimatum'' ended up playing a key role in the breakdown and collapse of the Ultimate Marvel line.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RealitySubtext: Considering the death of Loeb's son, Magneto's vengeful retaliation against the world after the murder of his children can be read into plenty.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ExecutiveMeddling
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with a KillEmAll ending, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
** Spider-Man was benefited by this. Bendis still had some last stories to narrate with Ultimate Peter Parker, so he was revealed to be NotQuiteDead by the end of the ''Requiem'' issue. This, however, was only temporary, and Parker only stayed for a short time while Bendis prepared things for ComicBook/MilesMorales.
** In the original plan, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' would have closed the Ultimate line with a KillEmAll ending, and then be followed by a relaunch. DeathIsCheap, and everybody would be alive after the ResetButton. Loeb simply wrote ''that'' ending. But then it was decided that Ultimatum would not be the end, and that the following stories should continue from there.
** Spider-Man was benefited by this. Bendis still had some last stories to narrate with Ultimate Peter Parker, so he was revealed to be NotQuiteDead by the end of the ''Requiem'' issue. This, however, was only temporary, and Parker only stayed for a short time while Bendis prepared things for ComicBook/MilesMorales.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/JephLoeb wrote the comic while in grief following the death of his son.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a less moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
to:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a less last moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[Creator/BrianBendis Bendis]] has gone on record that Peter Parker was originally supposed to be KilledOffForReal in this storyline. Bendis had a less moment change of heart and lobbied for the character to survive because he wanted to tie up some more loose ends. This is what ultimately led to creation of ComicBook/MilesMorales.
