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** Steve Jackson Games' ''TabletopGame GURPS'' has a sourcebook for the series.

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* LicensedGame: There was a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(video_game) computer game]] which was highly acclaimed and received a sequel. It may not have been officially licensed, though.
** Steve Jackson Games' ''TabletopGame GURPS'' has a sourcebook for the series.



* TroubledProduction: The co-creators of the series, actor Patrick [=McGoohan=] and screenwriter George Markstein, almost immediately began to clash over what the series should be. Markstein has gone on record stating that his idea for the series came about while [=McGoohan=] was making ''Series/DangerMan'' and that the premise would be what would happen if [=McGoohan's=] character, John Drake, resigned and was sent to a special resort-type prison similar to a kind used to crack POW's in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. [=McGoohan=], on the other hand, maintained that the two characters are different and that the two shows are completely independent. Beyond the question of the central character's identity, it seems that Markstein wanted to keep the series rooted in the espionage genre, with Number Six's character as a spy imprisoned by (probably) his own side because he knew too much, while [=McGoohan=] saw the show from the start as a much more abstract surreal allegory about the relationship between the individual and society. It is likely that both creators went into the project with their own notions of what the "truth" was, and both interpretations influenced the writing and the acting. Beyond the characterization, many of the details of who created what and when were contested between [=McGoohan=] and Markstein, with the preponderance of the evidence supporting [=McGoohan=], but not completely invalidating Markstein's claims nor his influences in writing the series. Once [=McGoohan=] won his power struggle with Markstein and the show started to get seriously freaky, ExecutiveMeddling made things even more troubled. There are even conflicting claims from all concerned about how many episodes were originally planned, and whether the show was cancelled prematurely or not. Certainly, there are reports from many actors and crew members that the final episode, "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE17FallOut Fall Out]]", was made in completely chaotic circumstances, with [=McGoohan=] still working on the script during recording breaks, Kenneth Griffith (who played the President) being asked to write his own dialogue, and as much of the production as possible having to be recycled from previous episodes. The production had also a number of budgetary problems. The reason [=McGoohan=] chose to appear in ''Film/IceStationZebra'' in the middle of everything (which in turn led to the episode "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE13DoNotForsakeMeOhMyDarling Do Not Forsake Me Oh my Darling]]" which could be filmed almost completely without him) was to use his sizable paycheck towards funding the rest of the series.

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The co-creators of the series, actor Patrick [=McGoohan=] and screenwriter George Markstein, almost immediately began to clash over what the series should be. Markstein has gone on record stating that his idea for the series came about while [=McGoohan=] was making ''Series/DangerMan'' and that the premise would be what would happen if [=McGoohan's=] character, John Drake, resigned and was sent to a special resort-type prison similar to a kind used to crack POW's in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. [=McGoohan=], on the other hand, maintained that the two characters are different and that the two shows are completely independent. Beyond the question of the central character's identity, it seems that Markstein wanted to keep the series rooted in the espionage genre, with Number Six's character as a spy imprisoned by (probably) his own side because he knew too much, while [=McGoohan=] saw the show from the start as a much more abstract surreal allegory about the relationship between the individual and society. It is likely that both creators went into the project with their own notions of what the "truth" was, and both interpretations influenced the writing and the acting.
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Beyond the characterization, many of the details of who created what and when were contested between [=McGoohan=] and Markstein, with the preponderance of the evidence supporting [=McGoohan=], but not completely invalidating Markstein's claims nor his influences in writing the series. series.
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Once [=McGoohan=] won his power struggle with Markstein and the show started to get seriously freaky, ExecutiveMeddling made things even more troubled. There are even conflicting claims from all concerned about how many episodes were originally planned, and whether the show was cancelled prematurely or not. Certainly, there are reports from many actors and crew members that the final episode, "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE17FallOut Fall Out]]", was made in completely chaotic circumstances, with [=McGoohan=] still working on the script during recording breaks, Kenneth Griffith (who played the President) being asked to write his own dialogue, and as much of the production as possible having to be recycled from previous episodes.
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The production had also a number of budgetary problems. The reason [=McGoohan=] chose to appear in ''Film/IceStationZebra'' in the middle of everything (which in turn led to the episode "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE13DoNotForsakeMeOhMyDarling Do Not Forsake Me Oh my Darling]]" which could be filmed almost completely without him) was to use his sizable paycheck towards funding the rest of the series.



** Colin Gordon appears as No. 2 in the episodes "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE3ABAndC A, B and C]]" and "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE6TheGeneral The General]]", being the only actor besides [=McKern=] to play No. 2 more than once. However, given the nature of the series, there is actually a case to be made that Gordon is playing two ''different'' No. 2's, if one compares elements such as characterization. The one-off appearance of Village workers in "Arrival" who look exactly the same (possibly twins, possibly clones) is cited as possible evidence in support.\\
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The Colin Gordon question may depend on which order you watch the episodes. If "A, B and C" is seen before "The General", as it was during the show's original run, they may be different. If that order is reversed (into the order in which they were originally filmed), they appear to be the same character, who goes from a highly confident SmugSnake to a broken man terrified of the consequences of failure. Supporting this, "A, B, and C" is unique as the title sequence contains the line "I am No. 2" rather than "The new No. 2", suggesting that episode was meant as the second episode featuring that No. 2, as there'd be no need to reintroduce himself then or indicate anything had changed.

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** Colin Gordon appears as No. 2 in the episodes "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE3ABAndC A, B and C]]" and "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE6TheGeneral The General]]", being the only actor besides [=McKern=] to play No. 2 more than once. His line during "A, B, and C" being "I am No. 2" rather than "The new No. 2", suggests they're the same, as there'd be no need to reintroduce himself then or indicate anything had changed. However, given the nature of the series, there is actually a case to be made that Gordon is playing two ''different'' No. 2's, if one compares elements such as characterization. The 2's. Supporting this are scenes from "Arrival", where there are one-off appearance appearances of Village workers in "Arrival" who look exactly the same (possibly twins, possibly clones) is cited as possible evidence in support.\\
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The Colin Gordon question may depend on which order you watch the episodes. If "A, B and C" is seen before "The General", as it was during the show's original run, they may be different. If that order is reversed (into the order in which they were originally filmed), they appear to be the same character, who goes from a highly confident SmugSnake to a broken man terrified of the consequences of failure. Supporting this, "A, B, and C" is unique as the title sequence contains the line "I am No. 2" rather than "The new No. 2", suggesting that episode was meant as the second episode featuring that No. 2, as there'd be no need to reintroduce himself then or indicate anything had changed.
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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/PatrickMcGoohan always had complete control over the series, so it isn't surprising that he wrote and directed a few episodes - sometimes directing episodes under pseudonyms. ("Paddy Fitz" and "Joseph Serf", to be specific. He was going to use "Archibald Schwartz" as a pseudonym for the script of "Once Upon A Time", but as aired, script and direction for the episode were both credited to [=McGoohan=].)

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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/PatrickMcGoohan always had complete control over the series, so it isn't surprising that he wrote and and/or directed a few episodes - sometimes directing episodes under pseudonyms. ("Paddy Fitz" and "Joseph Serf", to be specific. He was going to use "Archibald Schwartz" as a pseudonym for the script of "Once Upon A Time", but as aired, script and direction for the episode were both credited to [=McGoohan=].)
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** The series is also believed by many to be a sequel of sorts to [=McGoohan=]'s previous series, ''Series/DangerMan'', with "Number Six" actually being ''Series/DangerMan'''s John Drake. There is at least one [[CrossOver shared character]] (or possibly just a character with the same name and actor), Number Six's "civilian" clothes are the distinctive outfit usually worn by Drake, and a publicity photo of [=McGoohan=] as Drake is X'ed out during the opening credits. Official ''Prisoner'' novels flat out name the Prisoner as Drake. For many years, [=McGoohan=] publicly maintained that the Prisoner was ''not'' Drake, but it is suspected that he was just being contrary.

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** The series is also believed by many to be a sequel of sorts to [=McGoohan=]'s previous series, ''Series/DangerMan'', with "Number Six" actually being ''Series/DangerMan'''s John Drake. There is at least one [[CrossOver shared character]] (or possibly just a character with the same name and actor), Number Six's "civilian" clothes are the distinctive outfit usually worn by Drake, and a publicity photo of [=McGoohan=] as Drake is X'ed out during the opening credits. Official ''Prisoner'' novels flat out name the Prisoner as Drake. For many years, [=McGoohan=] publicly maintained that the Prisoner was ''not'' Drake, but it is suspected that he was just being contrary. But perhaps even more crucially, if [=McGoohan=] had admitted on the record that Number Six was John Drake, then it's quite possible that a whole whack of character creation royalties would have been due to ''Danger Man''/John Drake creator Ralph Smart.
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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/PatrickMcGoohan always had complete control over the series, so it isn't surprising that he wrote and directed many episodes - usually under pseudonyms.

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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/PatrickMcGoohan always had complete control over the series, so it isn't surprising that he wrote and directed many a few episodes - usually sometimes directing episodes under pseudonyms.pseudonyms. ("Paddy Fitz" and "Joseph Serf", to be specific. He was going to use "Archibald Schwartz" as a pseudonym for the script of "Once Upon A Time", but as aired, script and direction for the episode were both credited to [=McGoohan=].)
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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: The writers had no plan for who Number One would turn out to be until they finally sat down to write the script for the last episode.

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Wrong trope. If it was simply renamed in a foreign country, then its not Banned In China.


* BannedInChina:
** "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE14LivingInHarmony Living In Harmony]]" was rejected for broadcast in the USA because of its expressly pacifist stance during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar.
** While not banned, in France, "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE6TheGeneral The General]]" was [[MarketBasedTitle retitled]], "Le Cerveau" (The Brain) to avoid arousing the ire of UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle.

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BannedInChina: "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE14LivingInHarmony Living In Harmony]]" was rejected for broadcast in the USA because of its expressly pacifist stance during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar.
** While not banned, in France, "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE6TheGeneral The General]]" was [[MarketBasedTitle retitled]], "Le Cerveau" (The Brain) to avoid arousing the ire of UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle.
UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar.


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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: In France, "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE6TheGeneral The General]]" was [[MarketBasedTitle retitled]], "Le Cerveau" (The Brain) to avoid arousing the ire of UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle.
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* TheWikiRule: [[http://prisoner.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The Prisoner Wiki]].
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* UncreditedRole: Creator/RogerLloydPack as a prisoner in "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE11ItsYourFuneral It's Your Funeral]]".
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* DivorcedInstalment: George Markenstein saw this as a sequel to ''Series/DangerMan''. Creator/PatrickMcGoohan disagreed.

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* DivorcedInstalment: George Markenstein Markstein saw this as a sequel to ''Series/DangerMan''. Creator/PatrickMcGoohan disagreed.



* InspirationForTheWork: The idea for the series came to Creator/PatrickMcGoohan when, following the success of ''Series/DangerMan'', someone asked him, "What happens to secret agents when they retire?" Meanwhile, George Markenstein came across a story from UsefulNotes/WorldWarII about a village used to house [=POWs=] who knew too much.

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* InspirationForTheWork: The idea for the series came to Creator/PatrickMcGoohan when, following the success of ''Series/DangerMan'', someone asked him, "What happens to secret agents when they retire?" Meanwhile, George Markenstein Markstein came across a story from UsefulNotes/WorldWarII about a village used to house [=POWs=] who knew too much.
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Correcting the spelling of George Markstein's name


* CreativeDifferences: Ironically, George Markenstein eventually resigned from the series due to disagreements with Creator/PatrickMcGoohan. The former wanted a straightforward spy series, while [=McGoohan=] wanted something a bit more abstract and allegorical.

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* CreativeDifferences: Ironically, George Markenstein Markstein eventually resigned from the series due to disagreements with Creator/PatrickMcGoohan. The former wanted a straightforward spy series, while [=McGoohan=] wanted something a bit more abstract and allegorical.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: In [[http://cultv.co.uk/mcgoohan.htm this 1977 interview]], Creator/PatrickMcGoohan said, "I thought the concept of the thing would sustain for only seven episodes." However, [[ExecutiveMeddling meddling executives]] wanted the episode count raised to 26. In the end, 17 episodes were filmed, but [=McGoohan=] claimed that only seven of ("Arrival", "Dance of the Dead", "Check Mate", "Free For All", "The Chimes of Big Ben" and "Once Upon A Time"/"Fall Out") "really count". The FreakyFridayFlip episode "Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling" was intended as a dry run for a possible second season in which No. 6 was sent away from the Village on assignments.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: In [[http://cultv.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20040203092933/http://www.cultv.co.uk/mcgoohan.htm this 1977 interview]], Creator/PatrickMcGoohan said, "I thought the concept of the thing would sustain for only seven episodes." However, [[ExecutiveMeddling meddling executives]] wanted the episode count raised to 26. In the end, 17 episodes were filmed, but [=McGoohan=] claimed that only seven of ("Arrival", "Dance of the Dead", "Check Mate", "Free For All", "The Chimes of Big Ben" and "Once Upon A Time"/"Fall Out") "really count". The FreakyFridayFlip episode "Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling" was intended as a dry run for a possible second season in which No. 6 was sent away from the Village on assignments.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: The idea of having "[[Recap/ThePrisonerE14LivingInHarmony Living In Harmony]]" in a wild west setting was done simply because the showrunners enjoyed westerns, and there were scant few opportunities to do that in the UK film and television industry.
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* HostilityOnTheSet: While Creator/PatrickMcGoohan would describe Leo [=McKern=] as a friend, [=McKern=] wasn't too enamoured with [=McGoohan=], describing him as "a bit of a bully".

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* HostilityOnTheSet: While Creator/PatrickMcGoohan would describe Leo [=McKern=] Creator/LeoMcKern as a friend, [=McKern=] wasn't too enamoured with [=McGoohan=], describing him as "a bit of a bully".



* OutOfOrder: The series was written in one order, filmed in a second, and aired in a third; the original intended airing orders often had to be shuffled around because several episodes were not ready for their original transmission dates. Though the show has an ongoing storyline, it's so frequently surreal that it's impossible to say what the "right" order is. The most widely accepted order nowadays, and the one used for its DVD release, was deduced by the ''fan club'', and contradicts the canonical order given by the production company, the order given by Patrick [=McGoohan=], and the airing order, but does work out logically (that is, references to Number 6 as a new arrival antecede references to his having been there a while, and what few calendar dates we see all happen in the right order).
** The BBC's [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/prisoner/episodeguide/intro.shtml page on the series]] sums up the problem neatly: "One of the many fascinating things about The Prisoner is that no-one knows what order the episodes should be watched in. There is, however, a consensus on two things. Firstly, they should not be watched in the order they were made, and secondly, they should not be watched in the order they were broadcast."

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* OutOfOrder: The series was written in one order, filmed in a second, and aired in a third; the original intended airing orders often had to be shuffled around because several episodes were not ready for their original transmission dates. Though the show has an ongoing storyline, it's so frequently surreal that it's impossible to say what the "right" order is. The most widely accepted order nowadays, and the one used for its DVD release, was deduced by the ''fan club'', and contradicts the canonical order given by the production company, the order given by Patrick [=McGoohan=], Creator/PatrickMcGoohan, and the airing order, but does work out logically (that is, references to Number 6 as a new arrival antecede references to his having been there a while, and what few calendar dates we see all happen in the right order).
** The BBC's Creator/TheBBC's [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/prisoner/episodeguide/intro.shtml page on the series]] sums up the problem neatly: "One of the many fascinating things about The Prisoner is that no-one knows what order the episodes should be watched in. There is, however, a consensus on two things. Firstly, they should not be watched in the order they were made, and secondly, they should not be watched in the order they were broadcast."

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