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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' would back up Moore's statements and [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].

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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' would back up Moore's statements and [[ArmedWithCanon joss debunk the theory]].
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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].

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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also would back up Moore's statements and [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].
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* FollowTheLeader: The [[https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/ncxyccnoc7iIXZz.yJrFqQ--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9Njg3O3E9OTU7dz01MDA-/http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/bc/4e/a5bc4e86827d24b438df79a8024ec496.jpg "why aren't you laughing?]] panel has been (deliberately in ''Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader'') cribbed [[http://www.dcplanet.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Batman_Whatever_Happened_to_the_Caped_Crusader-02.jpg multiple]] [[https://theragingfanboy.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/jla015-makingjokersane001.jpg times]].
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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending]] when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].

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** While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually debunked the theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]] in the comic's ending]] ending when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].
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https://www.goodreads.com/author/3961.Alan_Moore/questions You'll have to scroll a bit, but he does joss the theory.


* ShrugOfGod: In his afterword in the deluxe edition, Brian Bolland says that he'll address the interpretation that Batman [[spoiler:kills The Joker]] at the end. As he's addressing it his aforementioned [[TrollingCreator 800 word count cuts him off mid paragraph]].

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* ShrugOfGod: In his afterword in the deluxe edition, Brian Bolland says that he'll address the interpretation that Batman [[spoiler:kills The Joker]] at the end. As he's addressing it his aforementioned [[TrollingCreator 800 word count cuts him off mid paragraph]]. Alan Moore would eventually debunk the theory in 2016.



* WordOfGod: As opposed to the ShrugOfGod regarding whether or not [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]], Alan Moore has been more deliberate on what happened during a certain other scene that fans speculated on.

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* WordOfGod: As opposed to the ShrugOfGod regarding whether or not [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]], Alan Moore has been more deliberate on what happened during a certain other scene that fans speculated on.



** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]]. While not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].

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** They While it was originally vague, Alan Moore eventually shot down debunked the fan interpretation theory that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at Joker]] in the end]]. While comic's ending]] when asked about it on [=Goodreads=] in 2016, explaining that his intention was that [[spoiler:they were simply laughing over their "preposterous situation"]]. Furthermore, while not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon joss the theory]].
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** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]]. While not done by Moore or Brian, later stories such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon explicitly joss the theory]].

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** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]]. While not done by Moore or Brian, later stories that follow up on ''Killing Joke'''s events by other creators such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon explicitly joss the theory]].
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This feels more befitting for Audience Coloring Adaptation since it is about how one artist's interpretation of the Joker has influenced future portrayals, when Follow The Leader is when others attempt the replicate the success of one's work/character with their own work/character.


* FollowTheLeader: Brian Bolland's interpretation of the Joker (very lanky, vaguely upward spiky hair, somewhat vampiric features) has dominated how the Joker has been drawn since the book came out. In particular, the [[https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/ncxyccnoc7iIXZz.yJrFqQ--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9Njg3O3E9OTU7dz01MDA-/http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/bc/4e/a5bc4e86827d24b438df79a8024ec496.jpg "why aren't you laughing?]] panel has been (deliberately in ''Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader'') cribbed [[http://www.dcplanet.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Batman_Whatever_Happened_to_the_Caped_Crusader-02.jpg multiple]] [[https://theragingfanboy.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/jla015-makingjokersane001.jpg times]].
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** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]].

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** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]]. While not done by Moore or Brian, later stories such as ''Oracle: Year One: Born of Hope'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'' also [[ArmedWithCanon explicitly joss the theory]].

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* {{Jossed}}: Alan Moore eventually shot down the fan interpretation that Batman killed the Joker at the end.



* WordOfGod: As opposed to the ShrugOfGod regarding whether or not [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]], Moore has been more deliberate on what happened during a certain other scene that fans speculated on. WordOfGod stated that [[spoiler:when Joker snapped those nudes of Barb after he shot her (to use to drive Commissioner Gordon insane), it was all softcore. As opposed to some fan speculation, he didn't [[RapeAsDrama rape her]]]].

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* WordOfGod: As opposed to the ShrugOfGod regarding whether or not [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker]], Alan Moore has been more deliberate on what happened during a certain other scene that fans speculated on. WordOfGod stated that [[spoiler:when on.
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Joker snapped those nudes of Barb after he shot her (to use to drive Commissioner Gordon insane), it was all softcore. As opposed to some fan speculation, he didn't [[RapeAsDrama rape her]]]].her]]]].
** They eventually shot down the fan interpretation that [[spoiler:Batman killed the Joker at the end]].
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* {{Jossed}}: Alan Moore eventually shot down the fan interpretation that Batman killed the Joker at the end.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic -- in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic -- in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.
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* ReferencedBy: In ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'', [[EvilCounterpart Scourge]] paraphrases Joker's infamous "one bad day" quote by telling Sonic that, "all it takes is one bad day, and you'd be ''just'' like me."
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - -- in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's ack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's ack lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's [[StuffedIntoTheFridge lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed]], and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's [[StuffedIntoTheFridge lack ack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed]], paralysed, and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke" as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's [[StuffedIntoTheFridge lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed]], and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlanMoore has all but said he regrets writing the comic - in an interview, he described ''The Killing Joke" Joke'' as "the work of mine I'm least fond of" and elaborated "Brian Bolland did a wonderful job on the artwork, but as my for my writing, no, that's not one of my finest hours." Specifically, Moore has said that he regrets the story's [[StuffedIntoTheFridge lack of interest in how Barbara herself dealt with being shot and paralysed]], and the contribution that its fully canonical status made to the whole DC universe getting DarkerAndEdgier. He also felt that the seriousness and overly psychological approach in the story ultimately did not reveal a great deal about the characters and that it became just another "nasty" story about Joker and Batman.

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