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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985 (and even less so in the 1960s when the book is set). By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)
* CompletelyDifferentTitle: Some of the international titles for the series are pretty faithful (pretty much all of ''Dark Angel'''s titles are pretty accurate for their languages). Some, on the other hand, not so much.
** ''Heaven'':
*** French: ''Les enfants des collines'' (''Children of the hills'').
*** Finnish: ''Katkerat jäähyväiset'' (''The Bums will Bid Farewell'').
*** German: ''Dunkle Wasser'' (''Dark Water'').
*** Hungarian: ''Apa és Lánya'' (''Father and Daughter'').
*** Norwegian: ''En plass på jorden'' (''A Place on Earth''... one wonders if the publishers had a certain song in their heads).
** ''Fallen Hearts'':
*** Dutch: ''De gevallen engel'' (''The fallen angel'').
*** Finnish: ''Kielletty Rakkaus'' (''Forbidden Love'').
*** Hungarian: ''Kárhozottak'' (''Damned'').
*** Lithuanian: ''Apviltos širdys'' (''Deceived Hearts'').
** ''Gates of Paradise'':
*** Czech: ''Příslib naděje'' (''Promise of Hope'').
*** Dutch: ''Een engel voor het paradijs'' (''An angel for paradise'').
*** German: ''Nacht über Eden'' (''Night over Eden'').
** ''Web of Dreams'':
*** Dutch: ''De droom van een engel'' (''The dream of an angel'').
*** Hungarian: ''Anya és lánya'' (''Mother and Daughter'').
* OutlivedItsCreator: Andrews only wrote two of the books in the series. It ended up going for three more after her death.
* SimilarlyNamedWorks: No, the second book in the series ''Dark Angel'' has nothing to do with [[Series/DarkAngel show]].
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on the story of an unknown woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her life, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the other books in the series are in any way rooted in the woman's life.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Shortly before ''Dark Angel'' was published, Pocket Books was negotiating a new contract with Creator/VCAndrews for her to write a third book in the series, along with a prequel to the Dollanganger series (which became ''Literature/GardenOfShadows''). However, Andrews ''died'' shortly afterwards and it is unknown how much of ''Fallen Hearts'' is her work.
** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any unpublished material written by Andrews before she died. However, later interviews with her editor confirm that prior to her death, Andrews managed to complete either a full rough draft of the novel that would have been ''Fallen Hearts'' or even a full draft ''and'' a large portion of finished material totaling anywhere from a quarter to half of the novel. If and how much that work resembles the ghostwritten published book may never be known, as most of Andrews' final writings still remain in private hands.

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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985 (and even less so in the 1960s when the book is set). By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)
* CompletelyDifferentTitle: Some of the international titles for the series are pretty faithful (pretty much all of ''Dark Angel'''s titles are pretty accurate for their languages). Some, on the other hand, not so much.
** ''Heaven'':
*** French: ''Les enfants des collines'' (''Children of the hills'').
*** Finnish: ''Katkerat jäähyväiset'' (''The Bums will Bid Farewell'').
*** German: ''Dunkle Wasser'' (''Dark Water'').
*** Hungarian: ''Apa és Lánya'' (''Father and Daughter'').
*** Norwegian: ''En plass på jorden'' (''A Place on Earth''... one wonders if the publishers had a certain song in their heads).
** ''Fallen Hearts'':
*** Dutch: ''De gevallen engel'' (''The fallen angel'').
*** Finnish: ''Kielletty Rakkaus'' (''Forbidden Love'').
*** Hungarian: ''Kárhozottak'' (''Damned'').
*** Lithuanian: ''Apviltos širdys'' (''Deceived Hearts'').
** ''Gates of Paradise'':
*** Czech: ''Příslib naděje'' (''Promise of Hope'').
*** Dutch: ''Een engel voor het paradijs'' (''An angel for paradise'').
*** German: ''Nacht über Eden'' (''Night over Eden'').
** ''Web of Dreams'':
*** Dutch: ''De droom van een engel'' (''The dream of an angel'').
*** Hungarian: ''Anya és lánya'' (''Mother and Daughter'').
* OutlivedItsCreator: Andrews only wrote two of the books in the series. It ended up going for three more after her death.
* SimilarlyNamedWorks: No, the second book in the series ''Dark Angel'' has nothing to do with [[Series/DarkAngel show]].
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on the story of an unknown woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her life, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the other books in the series are in any way rooted in the woman's life.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Shortly before ''Dark Angel'' was published, Pocket Books was negotiating a new contract with Creator/VCAndrews for her to write a third book in the series, along with a prequel to the Dollanganger series (which became ''Literature/GardenOfShadows''). However, Andrews ''died'' shortly afterwards and it is unknown how much of ''Fallen Hearts'' is her work.
** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any unpublished material written by Andrews before she died. However, later interviews with her editor confirm that prior to her death, Andrews managed to complete either a full rough draft of the novel that would have been ''Fallen Hearts'' or even a full draft ''and'' a large portion of finished material totaling anywhere from a quarter to half of the novel. If and how much that work resembles the ghostwritten published book may never be known, as most of Andrews' final writings still remain in private hands.
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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985 (and even less so in the 1960s when the book is set). By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its more even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)

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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985 (and even less so in the 1960s when the book is set). By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its more even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)
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* NamesTheSame: By sheer coincidence, Sarah's maiden name is [[Film/{{Labyrinth}} Williams]].
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*** Lithuanian: ''Apviltos širdys'' (''The worm is overwhelmed'').

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*** Lithuanian: ''Apviltos širdys'' (''The worm is overwhelmed'').(''Deceived Hearts'').
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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985. By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its more even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)

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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985.1985 (and even less so in the 1960s when the book is set). By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its more even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)

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* BabyNameTrendStarter: In the book, characters frequently remark on Heaven's unusual name, which was almost unheard-of as a given name when the book was published in 1985. By 1990, census records recorded over 8,000 children named "Heaven," along with its more even-more-popular variant [[SdrawkcabName Neveah]]. (This trendy name is actually OlderThanTheyThink, since prior to 1900 it was more common for American Christian parents to give their children explicitly Biblical-themed names and "Heaven" occasionally cropped up amid the baby Jerusalems and little Canaans.)



** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any material written by Andrews for books published after her death. However, later interviews with Andrews' family and her editor state that Andrews ''had'' written either a full rough draft or several hundred pages of the book that would become ''Fallen Hearts'' before her death. If and how much that draft resemble the ghostwritten published book may never be known, as most of Andrews' final writings still remain in private hands.

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** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any unpublished material written by Andrews for books published after her death. before she died. However, later interviews with Andrews' family and her editor state confirm that prior to her death, Andrews ''had'' written managed to complete either a full rough draft or several hundred pages of the book novel that would become have been ''Fallen Hearts'' before her death. or even a full draft ''and'' a large portion of finished material totaling anywhere from a quarter to half of the novel. If and how much that draft resemble work resembles the ghostwritten published book may never be known, as most of Andrews' final writings still remain in private hands.
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: Some of the international titles for the series are pretty faithful (pretty much all of ''Dark Angel'''s titles are pretty accurate for their languages).

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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: Some of the international titles for the series are pretty faithful (pretty much all of ''Dark Angel'''s titles are pretty accurate for their languages). Some, on the other hand, not so much.
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle:

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** ''Gates of Paradise'':
*** Czech: ''Příslib naděje'' (''Promise of Hope'').
*** Dutch: ''Een engel voor het paradijs'' (''An angel for paradise'').
*** German: ''Nacht über Eden'' (''Night over Eden'').
** ''Web of Dreams'':
*** Dutch: ''De droom van een engel'' (''The dream of an angel'').
*** Hungarian: ''Anya és lánya'' (''Mother and Daughter'').

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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: In France, ''Heaven'' was published under the title ''Les enfants des collines'' (''Children of the hills'').

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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: In France, ''Heaven'' was published under the title CompletelyDifferentTitle:
** ''Heaven'':
*** French:
''Les enfants des collines'' (''Children of the hills'').hills'').
*** Finnish: ''Katkerat jäähyväiset'' (''The Bums will Bid Farewell'').
*** German: ''Dunkle Wasser'' (''Dark Water'').
*** Hungarian: ''Apa és Lánya'' (''Father and Daughter'').
*** Norwegian: ''En plass på jorden'' (''A Place on Earth''... one wonders if the publishers had a certain song in their heads).
** ''Fallen Hearts'':
*** Dutch: ''De gevallen engel'' (''The fallen angel'').
*** Finnish: ''Kielletty Rakkaus'' (''Forbidden Love'').
*** Hungarian: ''Kárhozottak'' (''Damned'').
*** Lithuanian: ''Apviltos širdys'' (''The worm is overwhelmed'').
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: In France, ''Heaven'' was published under the title ''Les enfants des collines'' (''Children of the hills'').
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on a woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her story, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the other books in the series are in any way rooted in the woman's life.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on a the story of an unknown woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her story, life, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the other books in the series are in any way rooted in the woman's life.
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* SimilarlyNamedWorks: No, the second book in the series ''Dark Angel'' has nothing to do with [[Series/DarkAngel show]].
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* NamesTheSame: By sheer coincidence, Sarah's maiden name is [[Film/{{Labyrinth}} Williams]].
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on a woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her story, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the books in the series are rooted in the woman's life.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on a woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her story, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the other books in the series are in any way rooted in the woman's life.
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** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any material written by Andrews for books published after her death.

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** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any material written by Andrews for books published after her death. However, later interviews with Andrews' family and her editor state that Andrews ''had'' written either a full rough draft or several hundred pages of the book that would become ''Fallen Hearts'' before her death. If and how much that draft resemble the ghostwritten published book may never be known, as most of Andrews' final writings still remain in private hands.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Shortly before ''Dark Angel'' was published, Pocket Books was negotiating a new contract with Creator/VCAndrews for her to write a third book in the series, along with a prequel to the Dollanganger series (which became ''Literature/GardenOfShadows''). However, Andrews ''died'' shortly afterwards and it is unknown how much of ''Fallen Hearts'' is her work.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Shortly before ''Dark Angel'' was published, Pocket Books was negotiating a new contract with Creator/VCAndrews for her to write a third book in the series, along with a prequel to the Dollanganger series (which became ''Literature/GardenOfShadows''). However, Andrews ''died'' shortly afterwards and it is unknown how much of ''Fallen Hearts'' is her work.work.
** Court records indicate that the estate of V.C. Andrews did not allow the ghostwriter to use any material written by Andrews for books published after her death.
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* OutlivedItsCreator: Andrews only wrote two of the books in the series. It ended up going for three more after her death.
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Anne Patty, Andrews' editor confirmed that ''Heaven'' was based on a woman who was sold by her father when she was young. This woman wrote a manuscript based on her story, but since it was deemed unpublishable, it was given to Andrews as a template, with both Andrews and the woman making notes. However none of the books in the series are rooted in the woman's life.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Shortly before ''Dark Angel'' was published, Pocket Books was negotiating a new contract with Creator/VCAndrews for her to write a third book in the series, along with a prequel to the Dollanganger series (which became ''Literature/GardenOfShadows''). However, Andrews ''died'' shortly afterwards and it is unknown how much of ''Fallen Hearts'' is her work.

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