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* CreatorBacklash: Although many fans consider ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' to be the band's high watermark, David Crosby always claimed that it was a significant step down from ''[[CreatorsFavorite Younger Than Yesterday]]''. Whether his opinion had to do with the actual quality of the music or the fact that he was unceremoniously fired from the band halfway through its recording is somewhat up for debate.
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* CreatorBacklash: Although many fans consider ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' to be the band's high watermark, David Crosby always claimed that it was a significant step down from ''[[CreatorsFavorite Younger Than Yesterday]]''. Whether his opinion had to do with the actual quality of the music on the album, or the fact that he was unceremoniously fired from the band halfway midway through its recording recording, is somewhat up for debate.
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* CreatorBacklash: Although many fans consider ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' to be the band's high watermark, David Crosby always claimed that it was a significant step down from ''[[CreatorsFavorite Younger Than Yesterday]]''. Although whether his opinion had to do with the actual quality of the music or the fact that he was unceremoniously fired from the band halfway through its recording is somewhat up for debate.
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* CreatorBacklash: Although many fans consider ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' to be the band's high watermark, David Crosby always claimed that it was a significant step down from ''[[CreatorsFavorite Younger Than Yesterday]]''. Although whether Whether his opinion had to do with the actual quality of the music or the fact that he was unceremoniously fired from the band halfway through its recording is somewhat up for debate.
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* CreatorBacklash: Although many fans consider ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' to be the band's high watermark, David Crosby always claimed that it was a significant step down from ''[[CreatorsFavorite Younger Than Yesterday]]''. Although whether his opinion had to do with the actual quality of the music or the fact that he was unceremoniously fired from the band halfway through its recording is somewhat up for debate.
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* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets to show off his skills on the instrument on "Draft Morning" from ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' and "Pretty Boy Floyd" from ''Sweetheart of the Rodeo.''
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* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets to show off showcases his skills on the instrument on "Draft Morning" from ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' and "Pretty Boy Floyd" from ''Sweetheart of the Rodeo.''
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** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, Music/TheFlyingBurritoBrothers, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's solo career, etc).
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** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, Music/TheFlyingBurritoBrothers, Dillard and Clark, Manassas, Firefall, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's the various solo career, careers of [=McGuinn=], Clark, Crosby and Hillman, etc).
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*** Actually, the three groups have additional [[CommonalityConnection Commonality Connections]] outside of [=CSNY=]. Chris Hillman helped get Buffalo Springfield off the ground in 1966 by recommending them to the promoter at the Whisky a Go Go, and would later co-found Manassas with Stephen Stills, and the Souther-Hillman-Furay band with Richie Furay. The connection with the Hollies is more tenuous, but also more amusing--both the Byrds and the Hollies were fronted by guys called Harold Clark(e) who [[MiddleNameBasis went by their middle names]], Eugene and Allan.
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* CreativeDifferences: Hoo boy...from the very beginning band members clashed frequently, leading to their RevolvingDoorBand status. One writer has described them as "''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' with guitars." Unlike, for example, Music/TheBeatles, who'd bonded after years of playing together in clubs, The Byrds barely even knew each other personally when they got together,[[labelnote:explanation]]Jim [=McGuinn=] started adding Beatles songs to his solo sets at the Troubadour in 1964, Gene Clark introduced himself after one show and they briefly formed a duo, then David Crosby asked if he could join, then their manager Jim Dickson added in Michael Clarke and Chris Hillman.[[/labelnote]] were never particularly good friends, and often were in direct competition with one another, to the detriment of the group overall. In an interview Chris Hillman pointed out that when they formed, the only things the original quintet had in common were that they liked the Beatles and [[TheStoner pot]].
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* CreativeDifferences: Hoo boy...from the very beginning band members clashed frequently, leading to their RevolvingDoorBand status. One writer has described them as "''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' with guitars." Unlike, for example, Music/TheBeatles, who'd been schoolmates and bonded after years of playing together in clubs, clubs together, The Byrds barely even knew each other personally when they got together,[[labelnote:explanation]]Jim [=McGuinn=] started adding Beatles songs to his solo sets at the Troubadour in 1964, Gene Clark introduced himself after one show and they briefly formed a duo, then David Crosby asked if he could join, then their manager Jim Dickson added in Michael Clarke and Chris Hillman.[[/labelnote]] were never particularly good friends, and often were in direct competition with one another, to the detriment of the group overall. In an interview Chris Hillman pointed out that when they formed, the only things the original quintet had in common were that they liked the Beatles and [[TheStoner pot]].
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* CreativeDifferences: Hoo boy...from the very beginning band members clashed frequently, leading to their RevolvingDoorBand status. One writer has described them as "''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' with guitars." Unlike their contemporaries such as Music/TheBeatles, the Byrds were not particularly good friends and often were in direct competition with one another, to the detriment of the group overall. In an interview Chris Hillman pointed out that when they formed, the only things the original quintet had in common were that they liked the Beatles and [[TheStoner pot]].
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* CreativeDifferences: Hoo boy...from the very beginning band members clashed frequently, leading to their RevolvingDoorBand status. One writer has described them as "''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' with guitars." Unlike their contemporaries such as Unlike, for example, Music/TheBeatles, the who'd bonded after years of playing together in clubs, The Byrds barely even knew each other personally when they got together,[[labelnote:explanation]]Jim [=McGuinn=] started adding Beatles songs to his solo sets at the Troubadour in 1964, Gene Clark introduced himself after one show and they briefly formed a duo, then David Crosby asked if he could join, then their manager Jim Dickson added in Michael Clarke and Chris Hillman.[[/labelnote]] were not never particularly good friends friends, and often were in direct competition with one another, to the detriment of the group overall. In an interview Chris Hillman pointed out that when they formed, the only things the original quintet had in common were that they liked the Beatles and [[TheStoner pot]].
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** After Music/VanDykeParks guested on organ on the track "Fifth Dimension", David Crosby reportedly asked him to join the band (presumably as a replacement for Gene Clark), but Parks declined and famously went on to collaborate with Brian Wilson on the aborted ''SMiLE'' project.
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** After Music/VanDykeParks guested on organ on the track "Fifth Dimension", David Crosby reportedly asked him to join the band (presumably as a replacement for Gene Clark), but Parks declined and famously went on to collaborate with Brian Wilson on the aborted ''SMiLE'' ''Music/{{SMiLE|TheBeachBoys}}'' project.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: They were asked to play Film/{{Woodstock}}, but they were tired of the festival circuit and believed it wouldn't be any different from any of the other festivals they turned down that summer.
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** After Music/VanDykeParks guested on organ on the track "Fifth Dimension", David Crosby reportedly asked him to join the band (presumably as a replacement for Gene Clark), but Parks declined and famously went on to collaborate with Brian Wilson on the aborted ''SMiLE'' project.
** The Byrds were asked to play Film/{{Woodstock}}, but they were tired of the festival circuit and believed it wouldn't be any different from any of the other festivals they turned down that summer.
** After Music/VanDykeParks guested on organ on the track "Fifth Dimension", David Crosby reportedly asked him to join the band (presumably as a replacement for Gene Clark), but Parks declined and famously went on to collaborate with Brian Wilson on the aborted ''SMiLE'' project.
** The Byrds were asked to play Film/{{Woodstock}}, but they were tired of the festival circuit and believed it wouldn't be any different from any of the other festivals they turned down that summer.
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** With Music/TheBeachBoys, due to both being Los Angeles-based bands who enjoyed great popularity at around the same time, and because the Byrds were produced by two close associates of Brian Wilson and company (Terry Melcher and Gary Usher). There does, however, exist a very mild FandomRivalry between the two groups, mainly over who has a better claim to being the American equivalent of Music/TheBeatles.
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* SelfRemake: On his 2017 solo album ''Biding My Time'', Chris Hillman recorded a new version of "Old John Robertson" (titled, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin appropriately enough]], "New Old John Robertson") in an acoustic bluegrass style. The redone version adds a new bridge in place of the string interlude that features on the original Byrds recording.
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** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, the Flying Burrito Brothers, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's solo career, etc).
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** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Music/TheFlyingBurritoBrothers, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's solo career, etc).
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* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets a couple of opportunities to showcase his skills on the instrument, namely on "Draft Morning" and "Pretty Boy Floyd."
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* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets a couple of opportunities to showcase show off his skills on the instrument, namely instrument on "Draft Morning" from ''The Notorious Byrd Brothers'' and "Pretty Boy Floyd."Floyd" from ''Sweetheart of the Rodeo.''
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** Chris Hillman enjoyed substantial commercial success in the country genre as the frontman of the Desert Rose Band in TheEighties. (In fact, he's a credited writer on more chart hits than any of the other members of the band.)
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** Chris Hillman enjoyed substantial commercial success in the country genre as the frontman of the Desert Rose Band in TheEighties. (In In fact, he's a credited writer on more chart hits than any of the other members of the band.)band--even with [=CSNY=], Croz mainly contributed album deep cuts while Stills, Nash and Young wrote the singles.
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** Chris Hillman enjoyed substantial commercial success in the country genre as the frontman of the Desert Rose Band in TheEighties.
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** Chris Hillman enjoyed substantial commercial success in the country genre as the frontman of the Desert Rose Band in TheEighties. (In fact, he's a credited writer on more chart hits than any of the other members of the band.)
* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets a couple of opportunities to showcase his skills on the instrument, namely on "Draft Morning" and "Pretty Boy Floyd."
* TheCastShowoff: Chris Hillman's main musical experience prior to joining the Byrds was as a bluegrass mandolinist. He gets a couple of opportunities to showcase his skills on the instrument, namely on "Draft Morning" and "Pretty Boy Floyd."
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* HeAlsoDid: Gene Parsons and Clarence White invented the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-Bender Stringbender]] (also called a B-Bender or a Pull-String), a device that uses a lever to manipulate a guitar's B-string to give it a steel guitar-like effect. Parsons custom-built the first few thousand units (with the likes of [[Music/LedZeppelin Jimmy Page]] and [[Music/TheRollingStonesBand Ronnie Wood]] as customers), before outsourcing its production.
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* FriendlyFandoms:
** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, the Flying Burrito Brothers, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's solo career, etc).
** With Music/BuffaloSpringfield and Music/TheHollies, the two other pre-[=CSNY=] groups.
** Most Byrds fans enjoy at least one of the various Byrds spinoff projects (Music/CrosbyStillsNashAndYoung, the Flying Burrito Brothers, the Desert Rose Band, Firefall, Gene Clark's solo career, etc).
** With Music/BuffaloSpringfield and Music/TheHollies, the two other pre-[=CSNY=] groups.
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** In fact, the longest-lasting Byrds lineup was actually Roger McGuinn, Clarence White, Skip Battin and Gene Parsons.
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** In fact, the longest-lasting form of the Byrds lineup was actually Roger McGuinn, the latter-day lineup of [=McGuinn=], Clarence White, Skip Battin and Gene Parsons.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: The classic lineup of the band was only together for a little over two years.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: The classic lineup of the band was only together for a little over two years.years (and that's ''counting'' the months they spent together before the "Mr. Tambourine Man" single was released).
** The four-man [=McGuinn=]/Crosby/Hillman/Clarke lineup lasted another eighteen months before Crosby's firing.
** The four-man [=McGuinn=]/Crosby/Hillman/Clarke lineup lasted another eighteen months before Crosby's firing.
** In fact, the longest-lasting Byrds lineup was actually Roger McGuinn, Clarence White, Skip Battin and Gene Parsons.
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** On "Spanish Harlem Incident" (''Mr. Tambourine Man'') Chris Hillman badly flubs a bass note behind the line "I've been wondering all about you."
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** On "Spanish Harlem Incident" (''Mr. Tambourine Man'') Chris Hillman badly flubs a bass note behind the line "I've been wondering all about you."" Hillman later joked that this was ironclad proof that he, and not a studio musician, was playing on the track.
