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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda" [''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson pulling off an incredible ItsAllAboutMe gambit and hijacking the session. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to rambling critiques of their vocal performances, plus, as [[https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/10/im_a_genius_too.html one blogger sums it up]], "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxing with Murry mocking Brian's rising reputation in music circles with the cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on. It's also probably not a coincidence that [[Music/SummerDaysAndSummerNights that same album that featured the revamped "Help Me, Rhonda"]] also included the song "I'm Bugged at My Ol' Man".

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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda" [''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson pulling off an incredible ItsAllAboutMe gambit and hijacking the session. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to rambling critiques of their vocal performances, plus, as [[https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/10/im_a_genius_too.html one blogger sums it up]], "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and "fight for success", plus nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxing with Murry mocking Brian's rising reputation in music circles with the cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on. It's also probably not a coincidence that [[Music/SummerDaysAndSummerNights that same album that featured the revamped "Help Me, Rhonda"]] also included the song "I'm Bugged at My Ol' Man".
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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda" [''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson pulling off an incredible ItsAllAboutMe gambit and hijacking the session. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to rambling critiques of their vocal performances, plus, as [[https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/10/im_a_genius_too.html one blogger sums it up]], "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxing with Murry mocking Brian's rising reputation in music circles with the cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on.

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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda" [''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson pulling off an incredible ItsAllAboutMe gambit and hijacking the session. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to rambling critiques of their vocal performances, plus, as [[https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/10/im_a_genius_too.html one blogger sums it up]], "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxing with Murry mocking Brian's rising reputation in music circles with the cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on. It's also probably not a coincidence that [[Music/SummerDaysAndSummerNights that same album that featured the revamped "Help Me, Rhonda"]] also included the song "I'm Bugged at My Ol' Man".
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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda"[''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson inserting himself into the recording process by offering rambling critiques of the songs, the singers' performances, and Brian's perfectionism. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to, as one blogger summed it up, "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxed by Murry's cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration that "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on.

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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda"[''sic''] Ronda" [''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson inserting himself into pulling off an incredible ItsAllAboutMe gambit and hijacking the recording process by offering rambling critiques of the songs, the singers' performances, and Brian's perfectionism.session. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to, to rambling critiques of their vocal performances, plus, as [[https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/10/im_a_genius_too.html one blogger summed sums it up, up]], "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxed by Murry's climaxing with Murry mocking Brian's rising reputation in music circles with the cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration that "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on.
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* TroubledProduction: It was the vocal overdub session for this album's version of "Help Me, Ronda"[''sic''] that was the source for the legendary, infamous tape (which runs over a half-hour in its unedited state) of Murry Wilson inserting himself into the recording process by offering rambling critiques of the songs, the singers' performances, and Brian's perfectionism. The full story was that, although the band had officially relieved Murry of his managerial duties, they tried to ease the sting of getting fired by his own sons by inviting both of their parents to watch the session. Murry admits to getting drunk before the session on the tape, and in his impaired state subjects the group to, as one blogger summed it up, "psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama." The tape is a CultClassic because of both Murry's oddball declarations (constantly urging the guys to "sing from your hearts", "loosen up", "go on that kick", and nitpicking things like flat vocals and going in too close on a mic), and the testy exchange he has with Brian after Brian starts getting fed up, climaxed by Murry's cutting, [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] declaration that "I'm a genius too." Undoubtedly the whole incident contributed to the rather lackadaisical feel of the final take, and is likely a big reason why Brian was eager to record a more polished version later on.

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* HarsherInHindsight: "When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)": Music/BrianWilson would divorce his wife Marilyn in 1979. He wouldn't love his wife for the rest of his life... (Slightly lessened by the fact they they are happily remarried to other people).
** The entire song paints a picture of youthful optimism for adulthood, but Brian faced much hardship for most of his adult life, including dealing with his abusive father Murry (who managed the band during their formative years), battling mental illness, languishing in depression due to the failure of his pet project [=SMiLE=] and the low sales and critical panning of its single "Heroes and Villains", dealing with substance abuse, and being taken advantage of by his abusive therapist Eugene Landy. Thankfully his life would improve again when Landy was legally removed from his life.

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* HarsherInHindsight: "When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)": FollowTheLeader: Music/BrianWilson would divorce his wife Marilyn in 1979. He wouldn't love his wife for the rest of his life... (Slightly lessened by the fact they they are happily remarried to other people).
** The entire song paints a picture of youthful optimism for adulthood, but Brian faced much hardship for most of his adult life, including dealing with his abusive father Murry (who managed the band during their formative years), battling mental illness, languishing in depression due to the failure of his pet project [=SMiLE=] and the low sales and critical panning of its single "Heroes and Villains", dealing with substance abuse, and being taken advantage of by his abusive therapist Eugene Landy. Thankfully his life would improve again when Landy
was legally removed from his life.heavily inspired by Music/PhilSpector.
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* HarsherInHindsight: "When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)": Music/BrianWilson would divorce his wife Marilyn in 1979. He wouldn't love his wife for the rest of his life... (Slightly lessened by the fact they they are happily remarried to other people).
** The entire song paints a picture of youthful optimism for adulthood, but Brian faced much hardship for most of his adult life, including dealing with his abusive father Murry (who managed the band during their formative years), battling mental illness, languishing in depression due to the failure of his pet project [=SMiLE=] and the low sales and critical panning of its single "Heroes and Villains", dealing with substance abuse, and being taken advantage of by his abusive therapist Eugene Landy. Thankfully his life would improve again when Landy was legally removed from his life.
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