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** Poppy and Titanic tried ''very'' hard to erase the prior work of Poppy's life (when she was "Moriah Poppy") either because it was too personal, it was not in line with Poppy's current image, or they are ashamed of it. Lyrics from "American Kids":
-->''I burned all my shit in a bonfire\\
All my teen regrets were a tripwire''



* OldShame: Poppy and Titanic tried ''very'' hard to erase the prior work of Poppy's life (when she was "Moriah Poppy") either because it was too personal, it was not in line with Poppy's current image, or they are ashamed of it. Lyrics from "American Kids":
-->''I burned all my shit in a bonfire\\
All my teen regrets were a tripwire''

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Shortly after the Mars Argo case was dismissed due to Poppy, Titanic and Mars settled privately, Poppy changed her video style ''slightly'', as a way to show it less of a "Mars Argo" clone to satisfy everyone.
** Moriah would later on issue a statement declaring that after the release of ''I Disagree'', she and Sinclair would be parting ways, admitting that Sinclair was abusive and manipulative to her, as well as "glamorizing suicide". This lead to some of the Music/MarsArgo community supporting her after she had been originally stating that Argo had been lying about her past with Sinclair.
* BlackSheepHit: Musically, while her viral success has been consistently apparent, her biggest chart-based hit is "Lowlife", a mostly straightforward love song fusing {{reggae}} and pop that sticks out when compared to her much more quirky SynthPop discography.
* CharacterBlog: She used to use her Twitter for weird Poppy sayings, but a lot of it has been scrubbed aside from retweets.
* {{Corpsing}}: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aInNomibLQE Kids React Cast Meets Poppy For The First Time]], Poppy can be seen smiling at some of the kids' more hysterical reactions to her (including one who tries to ward her off by making the Cross with her arms).

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Shortly after the Mars Argo Music/MarsArgo case was dismissed due to Poppy, Titanic Sinclair and Mars settled Argo settling privately, Poppy changed her video style ''slightly'', perhaps as a way to show it herself to be less of a "Mars Argo" clone to satisfy everyone.
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** Moriah would later on issue a statement declaring that she and Sinclair would be parting ways after the release of ''I Disagree'', she and Sinclair would be parting ways, admitting stating that Sinclair was abusive and manipulative to her, her as well as "glamorizing suicide". This lead led to some of the Music/MarsArgo community Argo's fanbase supporting her after she had been originally stating stated that Argo had been lying about her past with Sinclair.
* BlackSheepHit: Musically, while her viral success has been consistently apparent, her biggest chart-based hit is "Lowlife", a mostly straightforward love song fusing {{reggae}} and pop that sticks out when compared to her much more quirky SynthPop and experimental future discography.
* CharacterBlog: She used to use her Twitter Website/{{Twitter}} for weird Poppy sayings, but a lot of it has been scrubbed aside from retweets.
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In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K2OtWSyDD0 "How to Load a Gun"]], when Poppy slides the magazine into the gun, she very briefly flinches and grins, which many saw as a rare out-of-character moment.
** In [[https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=aInNomibLQE Kids "Kids React Cast Meets Poppy For The First Time]], Time"]], Poppy can be seen smiling at some of the kids' more hysterical reactions to her (including one who tries to ward her off by making the Cross with her arms).



** Even though she considers herself "from" Nashville, she was not born in Nashville. Her real birthplace is probably Boston, Massachusetts, as in a very old vlog from around 2011-2012, she stated that she grew up in Boston, Massachusetts until about 14 years of age. However, she doesn't really correct people when they say she's "born" in Nashville, since she doesn't like talking too much about personal details.

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** Even though she considers herself "from" Nashville, she was not born in Nashville. Her real birthplace is probably Boston, Massachusetts, as in a very old vlog from around 2011-2012, she stated that she grew up in Boston, Massachusetts Boston until about 14 years of age. However, she doesn't really correct people when they say she's "born" in Nashville, since she doesn't like talking too much about personal details.



* LoopingLines: ''All'' of Poppy's speech is voiced over after shooting. Moreover, all of the sound effects are added in. The reason for doing this is unclear, but may be to provide a "fake" vibe, or simply to have the lines sound cleaner without needing a small microphone on Poppy or a boom mic. Titanic Sinclair also does this on his channel. At the end of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssx3hlj7T8 this video,]] you can observe the trope stopping.

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* LoopingLines: ''All'' of Poppy's speech is voiced over after shooting. Moreover, all of the sound effects are added in. The reason for doing this is unclear, but may be to provide a "fake" vibe, or simply to have the lines sound cleaner without needing a small microphone on Poppy or a boom mic. Titanic Sinclair also does this on his channel. At the end of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssx3hlj7T8 this video,]] video]], you can observe the trope stopping.



* OldShame: Poppy and Titanic tried ''very'' hard to erase the prior work of Poppy's life (when she was "Moriah Poppy") either because it was too personal, it was not in line with That Poppy's current image, or they are ashamed of it. Lyrics from "American Kids":

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* OldShame: Poppy and Titanic tried ''very'' hard to erase the prior work of Poppy's life (when she was "Moriah Poppy") either because it was too personal, it was not in line with That Poppy's current image, or they are ashamed of it. Lyrics from "American Kids":
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Shortly after the Mars Argo case was dismissed due to Poppy, Titanic and Mars settled privately, Poppy changed her video style ''slightly'', as a way to show it less of a "Mars Argo" clone to satisfy everyone.
** Moriah would later on issue a statement declaring that after the release of ''I Disagree'', she and Sinclair would be parting ways, admitting that Sinclair was abusive and manipulative to her, as well as "glamorizing suicide". This lead to some of the Music/MarsArgo community supporting her after she had been originally stating that Argo had been lying about her past with Sinclair.
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* NamesTheSame: She is in no way related to the [[Franchise/{{Kirby}} Poppy Brothers]].
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* {{Corpsing}}: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aInNomibLQE Kids React Cast Meets Poppy For The First Time]], Poppy can be seen smiling at some of the kids' more hysterical reactions to her (including one who tries to ward her off by making the Cross with her arms).
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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Not Poppy herself, but after abuse allegations against him surfaced from Creator/EvanRachelWood and several other women, Poppy pulled three photos that featured Music/MarilynManson from her Instagram account.
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* UnderminedByReality:
** Being "in character" is important for Poppy's brand, and Titanic/Poppy will attempt to remove anything that contradicts or undermines it. For example, they allegedly tried to take [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8XSVlDkhPQ this video]] down because it undermined the brand.
** When [[http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-is-not-an-interview-with-poppy asked]] about the video of her quoting a comment from [[Website/FourChan /b/]], Poppy replied, "[[ImplausibleDeniability What's 4chan?]]"
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** "Never Find My Place" is transparently about coming to terms with the abuse she suffered under Titanic, and the song includes the line "nobody here is free and clear", referencing to her early dismissal of Mars.
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* BlackSheepHit: Musically, while her viral success has been consistently apparent, her biggest chart-based hit is "Lowlife", a mostly straightforward {{reggae}}-fusion pop track that sticks out when compared to her much more quirky SynthPop discography.
* CharacterBlog: She used to use her twitter as weird Poppy sayings, but a lot of it has been scrubbed aside from retweets.

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* BlackSheepHit: Musically, while her viral success has been consistently apparent, her biggest chart-based hit is "Lowlife", a mostly straightforward {{reggae}}-fusion love song fusing {{reggae}} and pop track that sticks out when compared to her much more quirky SynthPop discography.
* CharacterBlog: She used to use her twitter as Twitter for weird Poppy sayings, but a lot of it has been scrubbed aside from retweets.



** The Apple Music liner notes of ''I Disagree'' greatly implies that much of the album and its themes, consciously at the time or not, were reflective of Moriah's personal state while working with Titanic Sinclair up until their breakup. She doesn't directly name him, but the themes she highlights of aggressive empowerment after long stretches of abuse certainly line up with it. In the notes of "Don't Ask", she even admits that while she still loves ''I Disagree'', she wishes to part ways with its sound in part due to its personal ties to this period.
--->"This track is also saying don’t ask me about any things that have happened in the past, [[EndOfAnEra because I’m not going to talk about them anymore."]]

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** The Apple Music liner notes of ''I Disagree'' greatly implies imply that much of the album and its themes, consciously at the time or not, were reflective of Moriah's personal state while working with Titanic Sinclair up until their breakup. She doesn't directly name him, but the themes she highlights of aggressive empowerment after long stretches of abuse certainly line up with it. In the notes of "Don't Ask", she even admits that while she still loves ''I Disagree'', she wishes to part ways with its sound in part due to its personal ties to this period.
--->"This track is also saying don’t ask me about any things that have happened in the past, [[EndOfAnEra because I’m not going to talk about them anymore."]]anymore]]."



** There was a produced song called "Chewing Gum" uploaded to her Soundcloud, but it was deleted almost immediately after and didn't become a part of the ''Bubblebath'' EP. In 2020, Poppy confirmed that she uploaded it herself, planned it to be a B-side to ''Bubblebath'', and to this day still likes it, [[ScrewedByTheLawyers but it was taken down by Island Records (her label at the time).]]
** At one point a 15 second snippet of a song called "Everybody wants it all" surfaced, which is obviously Poppy's voice, though Titanic denies it. Presumably it was canned because the reference to Mars Argo's final video was too blatant.

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** There was a produced song called "Chewing Gum" uploaded to her Soundcloud, [=SoundCloud=], but it was deleted almost immediately after and didn't become a part of the ''Bubblebath'' EP. In 2020, Poppy confirmed that she uploaded it herself, planned it to be a B-side to ''Bubblebath'', and to this day still likes it, [[ScrewedByTheLawyers but it was taken down by Island Records (her Records, her label at the time).]]
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** At one point point, a 15 second 15-second snippet of a song called "Everybody wants it all" surfaced, which is obviously in Poppy's voice, though Titanic denies it. Presumably Presumably, it was canned because the reference to Mars Argo's final video was too blatant.



** Poppy never said her name is a play on the word "pop" as in pop music. That's just a happy accident. In actual fact, her name is based off a character from a movie; she had the name before even working with Titanic.

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** Poppy never said her name is a play on the word "pop" as in pop music. That's just a happy accident. In actual fact, her name is based off a character from a movie; she had the name before even working with Titanic.



* LineToGod: Has a [[https://twitter.com/Poppy Twitter]], [[https://www.instagram.com/impoppy Instagram]], [[https://www.facebook.com/Poppy/ Facebook]], Snapchat (thatpoppy) and [[https://www.reddit.com/user/Thatpoppy Reddit account]]. She used to have a Tumblr but deleted it for reasons unclear.

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* LineToGod: Has a [[https://twitter.com/Poppy Twitter]], [[https://www.instagram.com/impoppy Instagram]], [[https://www.facebook.com/Poppy/ Facebook]], Snapchat (thatpoppy) and [[https://www.reddit.com/user/Thatpoppy Reddit account]]. She used to have a Tumblr Tumblr, but deleted it for reasons unclear.
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: The song "Aristocrat" -- about the narrator sneaking into a high class party -- [[https://youtu.be/ClBjbTtu8Bk?t=800 was reportedly based on an actual story]] Poppy/Moriah got into before she became famous, where she snuck through a window into a "secret party" where the host wasn't aware of her presence.
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* BigNameFan:
** Henry David Floyd for his creation of the [[RoomFullOfCrazy Webpage Full of Crazy]] that is [[http://ibelievepoppy.com IBelievePoppy.com]].
** Music/MarilynManson, of all people. Though unconfirmed, it is widely believed by fans that he is the one providing guest vocals on the song "Fill the Crown" off of ''I Disagree'' (the role is uncredited, but all she's willing to say is that it's ''not'' Ghostemane, so it's still potentially true).

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** In late 2019 Moriah would cut ties with Titanic Sinclair after revealing he manipulated her into staying with him with threats of suicide.

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** In late 2019 Moriah would cut ties The Apple Music liner notes of ''I Disagree'' greatly implies that much of the album and its themes, consciously at the time or not, were reflective of Moriah's personal state while working with Titanic Sinclair up until their breakup. She doesn't directly name him, but the themes she highlights of aggressive empowerment after revealing he manipulated her into staying long stretches of abuse certainly line up with him it. In the notes of "Don't Ask", she even admits that while she still loves ''I Disagree'', she wishes to part ways with threats of suicide. its sound in part due to its personal ties to this period.
--->"This track is also saying don’t ask me about any things that have happened in the past, [[EndOfAnEra because I’m not going to talk about them anymore."]]
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** She also spoke negatively of her experience of being signed onto Mad Descent, [[https://www.altpress.com/news/poppy-mad-decent-record-store-day-release/ who according to her]] released vinyl pressings of some of her music without her consent.

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** She also spoke negatively of her experience of being signed onto Mad Descent, Decent, [[https://www.nme.com/big-reads/big-read-poppy-interview-2019-i-disagree-breaks-character-2574116 claiming that it was poorly run]]. She was also miffed by how [[https://www.altpress.com/news/poppy-mad-decent-record-store-day-release/ who according to her]] in her account]], they released vinyl pressings of some of her music without her consent.

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