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** The first four albums (though they do have their fans), for both the fans and the band themselves. For some fans, anyways, it falls under FanonDiscontinuity. Anselmo's first album, ''Power Metal'', was later dismissed by him as "immature":
--> "I sang on over half the record and I'd only been in the band a month. It should never have been released."
** Interestingly, Anselmo seems to have lightened up on ''Power Metal'' a bit - when asked about how he'd feel about a hypothetical reissue, he said he wouldn't be opposed, calling it "a pretty solid metal record all around in the vein of Music/JudasPriest" and praising Dimebag's "brutal" guitar work on certain songs.
** Phil has, as of 2015, expressed some discomfort [[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/phil-anselmo-on-confederate-flag-i-dont-want-anything-to-do-with-it-20150713 with Pantera's use of the Confederate flag]] in merchandising and images, mentioning they used it partially due to their "love for bands like Music/LynyrdSkynyrd" and that they had never meant to use it to promote hatred or racism. Which didn't stop him from doing a nazi salute while shouting "White power" at the end of a Pantera tribute concert in 2016, something he later apologized for but still got his band ''Music/{{Down}}'' banned from a festival in Netherlands.



* OldShame: The first four albums mentioned above(though they do have their fans), for both the fans and the band themselves. For some fans, anyways, it falls under FanonDiscontinuity. Anselmo's first album, ''Power Metal'', was later dismissed by him as "immature":
--> "I sang on over half the record and I'd only been in the band a month. It should never have been released."
** Interestingly, Anselmo seems to have lightened up on ''Power Metal'' a bit - when asked about how he'd feel about a hypothetical reissue, he said he wouldn't be opposed, calling it "a pretty solid metal record all around in the vein of Music/JudasPriest" and praising Dimebag's "brutal" guitar work on certain songs.
** Phil has, as of 2015, expressed some discomfort [[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/phil-anselmo-on-confederate-flag-i-dont-want-anything-to-do-with-it-20150713 with Pantera's use of the Confederate flag]] in merchandising and images, mentioning they used it partially due to their "love for bands like Music/LynyrdSkynyrd" and that they had never meant to use it to promote hatred or racism. Which didn't stop him from doing a nazi salute while shouting "White power" at the end of a Pantera tribute concert in 2016, something he later apologized for but still got his band ''Music/{{Down}}'' banned from a festival in Netherlands.

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