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** Then, it came time to market the film, which was already handicapped in that department by having no big stars in the cast. A trailer shown at a Disney con did not go over well, and Stanton refused to take any advice from the studio's marketing department. He insisted on using LedZeppelin's "Kashmir" in the trailer even after it was pointed out to him that a 30-year-old classic-rock song was not likely to resonate with the younger male audience the film was intended for. In addition to all the titling problems noted above.
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** Then, it came time to market the film, which was already handicapped in that department by having no big stars in the cast. A trailer shown at a Disney con did not go over well, and Stanton refused to take any advice from the studio's marketing department. He insisted on using LedZeppelin's "Kashmir" in the trailer even after it was pointed out to him that a 30-year-old classic-rock song was not likely to resonate with the younger male audience the film was intended for. In addition to all the titling problems noted above.above.
**Granted, once one remembers that film journalists get much of their information from executives, perhaps the above should be taken with a massive grain of salt as an attempt to throw Stanton under the bus.
**Granted, once one remembers that film journalists get much of their information from executives, perhaps the above should be taken with a massive grain of salt as an attempt to throw Stanton under the bus.
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* TroubledProduction: There were reservations at Disney about letting Stanton direct the film, despite his obvious sentimental attachment to the material, because he'd never directed a live-action feature before. But, since he'd made ''WallE'' and ''FindingNemo'' into hits, they let him do it even though he warned them, "I'm not gonna get it right the first time, I'll tell you that right now." Indeed, the film required extensive double reshoots. Throughout production, he ignored the advice of the crewmembers who were live-action veterans in favor of his Pixar friends, back in their offices. Rich Ross and the other studio executives at Disney likewise had little experience with feature films, since most had come from television.
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* TroubledProduction: There were reservations at Disney about letting Stanton direct the film, despite his obvious sentimental attachment to the material, because he'd never directed a live-action feature before. But, since he'd made ''WallE'' ''[[WallE Wall-E]]'' and ''FindingNemo'' into hits, they let him do it even though he warned them, "I'm not gonna get it right the first time, I'll tell you that right now." Indeed, the film required extensive double reshoots. Throughout production, he ignored the advice of the crewmembers who were live-action veterans in favor of his Pixar friends, back in their offices. Rich Ross and the other studio executives at Disney likewise had little experience with feature films, since most had come from television.
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* TroubledProduction: There were reservations at Disney about letting Stanton direct the film, despite his obvious sentimental attachment to the material, because he'd never directed a live-action feature before. But, since he'd made ''WallE'' and ''FindingNemo'' into hits, they let him do it even though he warned them, "I'm not gonna get it right the first time, I'll tell you that right now." Indeed, the film required extensive double reshoots. Throughout production, he ignored the advice of the crewmembers who were live-action veterans in favor of his Pixar friends, back in their offices. Rich Ross and the other studio executives at Disney likewise had little experience with feature films, since most had come from television.
** Then, it came time to market the film, which was already handicapped in that department by having no big stars in the cast. A trailer shown at a Disney con did not go over well, and Stanton refused to take any advice from the studio's marketing department. He insisted on using LedZeppelin's "Kashmir" in the trailer even after it was pointed out to him that a 30-year-old classic-rock song was not likely to resonate with the younger male audience the film was intended for. In addition to all the titling problems noted above.
* TroubledProduction: There were reservations at Disney about letting Stanton direct the film, despite his obvious sentimental attachment to the material, because he'd never directed a live-action feature before. But, since he'd made ''WallE'' and ''FindingNemo'' into hits, they let him do it even though he warned them, "I'm not gonna get it right the first time, I'll tell you that right now." Indeed, the film required extensive double reshoots. Throughout production, he ignored the advice of the crewmembers who were live-action veterans in favor of his Pixar friends, back in their offices. Rich Ross and the other studio executives at Disney likewise had little experience with feature films, since most had come from television.
** Then, it came time to market the film, which was already handicapped in that department by having no big stars in the cast. A trailer shown at a Disney con did not go over well, and Stanton refused to take any advice from the studio's marketing department. He insisted on using LedZeppelin's "Kashmir" in the trailer even after it was pointed out to him that a 30-year-old classic-rock song was not likely to resonate with the younger male audience the film was intended for. In addition to all the titling problems noted above.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped, leaving the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon or BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others. Not to mention that Mars, including the JCM logo, was downplayed in the marketing (along with any mention of creator EdgarRiceBurroughs, the guy also responsible for {{Tarzan}} among others...)
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped, leaving the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon ComicStrip/FlashGordon or BuckRogers ComicStrip/BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others. Not to mention that Mars, including the JCM logo, was downplayed in the marketing (along with any mention of creator EdgarRiceBurroughs, Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs, the guy also responsible for {{Tarzan}} among others...)
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* DuelingMovies: Fought for the same audience as ''TheHungerGames''.
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* CreatorKiller: Rich Ross was fired from his position as Disney Studios leader weeks after Disney predicted they'd lose $200 million on the project (though currently the actual losses stand at just less than $''100'' million, and that's if you count the advertising budget). The film, however, hasn't been proven a StillbornFranchise ''yet'', though it's dangerously close to being one considering where it stands at the moment.
* DuelingMovies: Fought for the same audience as''TheHungerGames''.''Film/TheHungerGames''.
* DuelingMovies: Fought for the same audience as
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* OldShame: Andrew Stanton has already confessed that he isn't too satisfied with how the movie turned out.
* OldShame: Andrew Stanton has already confessed that he isn't too satisfied with how the movie turned out.
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That\'s not a bomb, it\'s an underperformer. There\'s a difference.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: The movie took $250 Million to produce(and the marketing costs([[InvisibleAdvertising surprisingly]]) ratchet the price tag up to 350 million), but factors such as Disney's handling of the film and competition such as the highly anticipated ''HungerGames'' movie caused it to become one of the biggest flops in recent memory.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: The movie cost $250 million to produce, and only made about $234 million in worldwide ticket sales. Because revenue is shared by theatres, Disney has stated that the movie will make a loss of about $200 million dollars, one of the biggest losses for a single film.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: The movie cost $250 million to produce, and only made about $184 $234 million in worldwide ticket sales. Because revenue is shared by theatres, Disney has stated that the movie will make a loss of about $200 million dollars, one of the biggest losses for a single film.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Not two weeks after its release, Disney announced it would take a $200 million write-off on this film.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Not two weeks after its release, Disney announced it would take a $200 million write-off on this film.
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** Reportedly, the name change was done to disassociate it with ''MarsNeedsMoms'', and/or because people thought girls wouldn't watch movies with "Mars" in the title. Earlier on, the original book title ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
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** [[BreakingBad Walter White]] is the Yankee Colonel.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped, leaving the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon or BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped, leaving the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon or BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others. Not to mention that Mars, including the JCM logo, was downplayed in the marketing (along with any mention of creator EdgarRiceBurroughs, the guy also responsible for {{Tarzan}} among others...)
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** Earlier, ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
** Earlier, ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped from the title, reportedly to disassociate it with ''MarsNeedsMoms''. This left dropped, leaving the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon or BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others.
**Earlier, Reportedly, the name change was done to disassociate it with ''MarsNeedsMoms'', and/or because people thought girls wouldn't watch movies with "Mars" in the title. Earlier on, the original book title ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
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** [[{{Rome}} Atia of the Julii]] is Sarkoja.
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** [[MinorityReport Agatha]] is Sola.
** [[MinorityReport Agatha]] is Sola.
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Hello, $100 Million is only the first weekend, the film has over a dozen weekends.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film was apparently titled ''JohnCarterOfMars'' at first. A promotional logo for the film is a stylized "JCM". But then Mars was dropped from the title, reportedly to disassociate it with ''MarsNeedsMoms''. This left the film with a nondescript title. John Carter is a quite ordinary name compared to the likes of FlashGordon or BuckRogers and it stands out precisely because of the association with Mars. No wonder this didn't go over well with fans and others.
** Earlier, ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
* FakeAmerican: Taylor Kitsch (Canadian) as John Carter.
* FakeBrit: Lynn Collins (American, plays a Red Martian speaking in an English accent).
** Earlier, ''A Princess of Mars'' was dropped because people thought boys wouldn't watch movies with "princess" in the title.
* FakeAmerican: Taylor Kitsch (Canadian) as John Carter.
* FakeBrit: Lynn Collins (American, plays a Red Martian speaking in an English accent).
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** [[Film/SherlockHolmes Lord Blackwood]] is Matai Shang
** [[SpyKids Agent Juni Cortez]] is EdgarRiceBurroughs
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** [[Film/SpiderMan The Sandman]] is Tal Hajus
** [[{{Rome}} Julius Caesar and Mark Antony]] are Tardos Mors and Kantos Kan
** [[TheWire Detective Jimmy McNulty]] is Sab Than
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** [[Film/SpiderMan The Sandman]] is TalHajusHajus.
** [[{{Rome}} Julius Caesar and Mark Antony]] are Tardos Mors and Kantos
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** [[Film/SherlockHolmes Lord Blackwood]] is Matai Shang
** [[SpyKids Agent Juni Cortez]] is EdgarRiceBurroughs
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** [[Film/SpiderMan The Green Goblin]] is Tars Tarkas
** [[Film/SpiderMan The Sandman]] is Tal Hajus
** [[XMenOriginsWolverine Gambit]] is John Carter
** [[{{Rome}} Julius Caesar and Mark Antony]] are Tardos Mors and Kantos Kan
** [[TheWire Detective Jimmy McNulty]] is Sab Than
** [[Film/SherlockHolmes Lord Blackwood]] is Matai Shang
** [[SpyKids Agent Juni Cortez]] is EdgarRiceBurroughs
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** [[Film/SpiderMan The Sandman]] is Tal Hajus