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* HeyItsThatPlace: The gas station was previously seen in ''Film/TheFog''.

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* HeyItsThatPlace: The gas station was previously seen in ''Film/TheFog''.''Film/TheFog1980''.
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* WordOfGod: Tom Atkins is on record boasting that "of course" his character succeeds at the end of the film and stops Cochran's commercial, but it comes off more like prideful self-aggrandizing of his role/character than canonical confirmation.
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* CreatorCouple: Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife.

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* CreatorCouple: Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife. John Carpenter and Debra Hill were also still a couple at the time.
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** Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film. When producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.

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** Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film. When producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product product, he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.
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** Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.

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** Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when film. When producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.
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* StillbornFranchise: This version was intended to turn the film series into a horror anthology; when it failed with critics, every other movie returned to the Michael Myers plotline and stuck to it like glue.

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* StillbornFranchise: This version film was intended to turn the film series into a horror anthology; when it failed with critics, every other movie returned to the Michael Myers plotline and stuck to it like glue.glue. The Silver Shamrock masks would later appear as a MythologyGag in the 2018 ''Film/{{Halloween|2018}}'' film and ''Film/HalloweenKills''.
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* {{Defictionalization}}: The Silver Shamrock masks would be released by the original creator Don Post and his company as a tie-in for the movie, with eventual replicas made in the 2010s. Ironically, the Skeleton and Witch masks were [[OffTheShelfFX already altered from pre-existing molds]].
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-->Whenever I use a Cork accent, I'm having a good time, and I used a Cork accent in [H>alloween III]. I thoroughly enjoyed the role, but I didn't think it was much of a picture, no.

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-->Whenever --->Whenever I use a Cork accent, I'm having a good time, and I used a Cork accent in [H>alloween III].[''Halloween III'']. I thoroughly enjoyed the role, but I didn't think it was much of a picture, no.

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** Dan O'Herlihy admitted in an interview with ''Starlog'' magazine that he was not particularly impressed with the finished film. When asked what he thought of working in the horror film, O'Herlihy responded:
-->Whenever I use a Cork accent, I'm having a good time, and I used a Cork accent in [H>alloween III]. I thoroughly enjoyed the role, but I didn't think it was much of a picture, no.
* CreatorCouple: Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife.
* DarkhorseCasting: The cast consisted mostly of character actors whose previous acting credits included cameo appearances on various television series. The exceptions were Tom Atkins and veteran actor Dan O'Herlihy.



* RealLifeRelative:
** Garn Stephens, who plays Marge Guttman, was Tom Atkins's wife at the time.
** Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife.

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RealLifeRelative: Garn Stephens, who plays Marge Guttman, was Tom Atkins's Atkins' wife at the time.
** Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife.
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** Conal Cochran was originally a three thousand year old demon.

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* ActorAllusion:
** Tom Atkins hopped into bed with a brunette girl he'd only just met in [[Film/TheFog another John Carpenter film]].
** Near the start of the film, a nurse can be heard referencing a "Mr Castle". As well as being the actor who played Michael Myers in the previous films, it was also the name of Tom Atkins's character in ''The Fog''.
** Dr Challis's ex-wife is named Linda. This the same name as the third friend in ''Halloween'' after Laurie and Annie - and the only one whose actress doesn't cameo in this film.



* YouLookFamiliar:
** Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.
** Jamie Lee Curtis voices the operator and the person announcing the curfew.

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YouLookFamiliar: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.
** Jamie Lee Curtis * YouSoundFamiliar: Creator/JamieLeeCurtis voices the operator and the person announcing the curfew.
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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: The Adelphia (before merging with Comcast) guide information for this movie stated that the Silver Shamrock masks explode rather than conjure insects and snakes to devour the wearer.

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* ActorAllusion: Tom Atkins hopped into bed with a brunette girl he'd only just met in [[Film/TheFog another John Carpenter film]].
* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.

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* ActorAllusion: ActorAllusion:
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Tom Atkins hopped into bed with a brunette girl he'd only just met in [[Film/TheFog another John Carpenter film]].
** Near the start of the film, a nurse can be heard referencing a "Mr Castle". As well as being the actor who played Michael Myers in the previous films, it was also the name of Tom Atkins's character in ''The Fog''.
** Dr Challis's ex-wife is named Linda. This the same name as the third friend in ''Halloween'' after Laurie and Annie - and the only one whose actress doesn't cameo in this film.
* CreatorBacklash: CreatorBacklash:
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Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.
** Executive Producer Irwin Yablans was against not having Michael Myers in the film and as a result had as little to do with it as possible.
* HeyItsThatPlace: The gas station was previously seen in ''Film/TheFog''.
* RealLifeRelative:
** Garn Stephens, who plays Marge Guttman, was Tom Atkins's wife at the time.
** Nancy Loomis, who plays the ex-wife, was Tommy Lee Wallace's wife.
* SerendipityWritesThePlot:
** The Silver Shamrock jingle is set to the tune of 'London Bridge Is Falling Down' because it was in the public domain.
** The film's genesis apparently came from one critic who had panned the second film saying he'd turn in his press card if they made a third.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks reception]] for this one hadn't been so negative, Carpenter might have been able to continue with his original idea of making ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' an anthology series with a fresh plot and characters for each movie. The only unifying thread would have been that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they all take place on Halloween]] -- the possibilities would have been endless.

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If the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks reception]] for this one hadn't been so negative, Carpenter might have been able to continue with his original idea of making ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' an anthology series with a fresh plot and characters for each movie. The only unifying thread would have been that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they all take place on Halloween]] -- the possibilities would have been endless.



** Carpenter wanted Creator/JoeDante to direct.
* YouLookFamiliar: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.

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** Carpenter wanted Creator/JoeDante to direct.
direct. Tommy Lee Wallace ended up taking the helm.
** Tommy Lee Wallace wanted to cast all redheads to play Conal Cochran's flunkies as an early idea.
** Tom Atkins revealed in a press interview that he didn't know how the film would end, as they shot a couple of different possible endings. One possibility was that the fade to black would have [[spoiler: the sounds of children screaming]]. WordOfGod is that they wanted a more AmbiguousEnding [[spoiler: to suggest that the children could have survived]].
* YouLookFamiliar: YouLookFamiliar:
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Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.ex-wife.
** Jamie Lee Curtis voices the operator and the person announcing the curfew.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's Film/PrinceOfDarkness, which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's Film/PrinceOfDarkness, ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films).

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films). He later commented on the film, saying that Carpenter had 'carpentered' the script into saw dust, and wondered if Carpenter's Film/PrinceOfDarkness, which had many homages to Kneale's work, was a riposte to his indignation or an apologetic homage.
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* CreatorCameo: Writer/director Tommy Lee Wallace is the voice of the announcer in the Silver Shamrock commercials.
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** Carpenter wanted Creator/JoeDante to direct.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: The curfew announcement is read by Creator/JamieLeeCurtis.
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* StillbornFranchise: This version was intended to turn the film series into a horror anthology; when it failed with critics, every other movie returned to the Michael Myers plotline and stuck to it like glue.
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* YouLookFamiliar: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.ex-wife.
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* This red-headed stepchild managed to find a home on the Main/RogerEbertMostHatedFilmList.
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* CreatorCameo: Writer/director Tommy Lee Wallace is the voice of the announcer in the Silver Shamrock commercials.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films).

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, Kneale began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films).


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** The original script was apparently more of a tongue-in-cheek mystery film that seemed to be aware of the ludicrous concept, ExecutiveMeddling killed it before filming.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NigelKneale was the original writer of the film, when producer Dino De Laurentiis demanded that the movie become darker and gorier, began to object, but went unheard. When he saw the final product he asked Carpenter to take his name off the project, left, and never worked on another major movie again (aside from some British TV horror films).

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.


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* YouLookFamiliar: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.
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* ActorAllusion: Tom Atkins hopped into bed with a brunette girl he'd only just met in [[Film/TheFog another John Carpenter film]].
* HeyItsThatGuy: Nancy Loomis (Annie from the first film) plays Challis's ex-wife.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: The curfew announcement is read by JamieLeeCurtis.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: The curfew announcement is read by JamieLeeCurtis.Creator/JamieLeeCurtis.
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* {{Novelization}}: Contains lots of PurpleProse.
* ShoutOut:
** ''Halloween'' is playing on the TV in the bar, and again during the Horror-thon (an odd choice considering Conal's target audience, but whatever).
** Santa Mira is the name of the town in ''InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers''. Fitting, no?
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* HeyitsThatVoice: The curfew announcement is read by JamieLeeCurtis.

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* HeyitsThatVoice: HeyItsThatVoice: The curfew announcement is read by JamieLeeCurtis.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks reception]] for this one hadn't been so negative, Carpenter might have been able to continue with his original idea of making ''{{Film/Halloween}}'' an anthology series with a fresh plot and characters for each movie. The only unifying thread would have been that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they all take place on Halloween]]--the possibilities would have been endless.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks reception]] for this one hadn't been so negative, Carpenter might have been able to continue with his original idea of making ''{{Film/Halloween}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' an anthology series with a fresh plot and characters for each movie. The only unifying thread would have been that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they all take place on Halloween]]--the Halloween]] -- the possibilities would have been endless.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks reception]] for this one hadn't been so negative, Carpenter might have been able to continue with his original idea of making ''{{Film/Halloween}}'' an anthology series with a fresh plot and characters for each movie. The only unifying thread would have been that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they all take place on Halloween]]--the possibilities would have been endless.

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