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* ContinuityLockout: Despite what Brad Winderbaum has said above in AuthorsSavingThrow about trying to avoid this trope, there is still ''some'' connections to past MCU series that are required watching to make full sense of the characters:
** ''Series/Hawkeye2021'' is essentially required watching to get the full impact of Fisk and Maya's relationship, not to mention this is technically a SequelSeries to it.
** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows, but heavily implies.
** ''Series/Hawkeye2021'' is essentially required watching to get the full impact of Fisk and Maya's relationship, not to mention this is technically a SequelSeries to it.
** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows, but heavily implies.
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** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and are now part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', ''[[Film/SpidermanNoWayHome Spiderman: No Way Home]]'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points is quite explicit. In this series, Fisk tells Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' are well-loved by fans, and officially integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no continuity issues to speak of..
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** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and are now part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', ''[[Film/SpidermanNoWayHome Spiderman: No Way Home]]'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points is quite explicit. In this series, Fisk tells Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' series are well-loved by fans, and officially integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' series almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no continuity issues to speak of..of.
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* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctaw descent.[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox is Menominee and Mohican, Creator/ChaskeSpencer is Lakota, Nez Perce, and Muscogee, Tantoo Cardinal is Cree and Métis from Canada, Devery Jacobs is Mohawk, Creator/ZahnMcClarnon is Lakota, Cody Lightning is Cree, and Creator/{{Graham Greene|Actor}} is Oneida.[[/note]]
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* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctaw descent.[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox is Menominee and Mohican, Mohican; Creator/ChaskeSpencer is Lakota, Nez Perce, and Muscogee, Muscogee; Tantoo Cardinal is Cree and Métis from Canada, Canada; Devery Jacobs is Mohawk, Mohawk; Creator/ZahnMcClarnon is Lakota, Lakota; Cody Lightning is Cree, Cree; and Creator/{{Graham Greene|Actor}} is Oneida.[[/note]]
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** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', Film/SpidermanNoWayHome'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points in this series is Fisk telling Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' are well-loved by fans, and integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no issues with continuity.
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** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and are now part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', Film/SpidermanNoWayHome'' ''[[Film/SpidermanNoWayHome Spiderman: No Way Home]]'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points in is quite explicit. In this series is series, Fisk telling tells Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' are well-loved by fans, and officially integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no continuity issues with continuity.to speak of..
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Shortly after the trailer for this series released, Marvel announced [[https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-mcu-fatigue-spotlight the creation of a new categorization of branding]] called "Spotlight" which is meant to help separate the less important installments of the MCU from the major ones, as a way of helping fans suffering from ContinuityLockout. For this show in particular, Marvel's Head of Streaming, Brad Winderbaum, [[WordOfGod confirmed that]] Maya's story is a standalone street-level series, and doesn't require viewing any prior MCU works to watch beforehand.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Shortly after the trailer for this series released, Marvel announced [[https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-mcu-fatigue-spotlight the creation of a new categorization of branding]] called "Spotlight" which is meant to help separate the less important installments of the MCU from the major ones, as a way of helping fans suffering from ContinuityLockout. For this show in particular, Marvel's Head of Streaming, Brad Winderbaum, [[WordOfGod confirmed that]] Maya's story is a standalone street-level series, and doesn't require viewing any prior MCU works to watchbeforehand.beforehand.
** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', Film/SpidermanNoWayHome'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points in this series is Fisk telling Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' are well-loved by fans, and integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no issues with continuity.
** Shortly after the trailer for this series released, Marvel announced [[https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-mcu-fatigue-spotlight the creation of a new categorization of branding]] called "Spotlight" which is meant to help separate the less important installments of the MCU from the major ones, as a way of helping fans suffering from ContinuityLockout. For this show in particular, Marvel's Head of Streaming, Brad Winderbaum, [[WordOfGod confirmed that]] Maya's story is a standalone street-level series, and doesn't require viewing any prior MCU works to watch
** This series finally, ''finally'', confirms that ''Series/Daredevil2015'' (and by proxy, the rest of the Netflix era of shows) are canonical to the wider MCU and part of the "Sacred timeline", [[https://www.ign.com/articles/netflixs-daredevil-show-is-mcu-canon-apparently at least in Brad Winderbaums' eyes]]. What helps is that unlike ''Series/Hawkeye2021'', Film/SpidermanNoWayHome'' and ''Series/SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw'', there's more than just small worldbuilding references or attempting to apply SchrodingersCanon; one of the biggest plot points in this series is Fisk telling Maya ([[spoiler:and later, reliving a memory set when he was young]]) of killing his abusive father with a hammer to protect his mother, something that very specifically happened in ''Daredevil'' and they only stop short of using archive footage from the series (though they ''do'' use footage in Echo's official trailer). This news has been a long time coming, as those series' are well-loved by fans, and integrating them into the setting makes a lot of sense, given how those series' almost never referenced the films (or vice-versa), so there's almost no issues with continuity.
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* RealLifeRelative: Alaqua Cox's cousin, Dornell Besaw, returns to play young Maya in the show's flashbacks.
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* RealLifeRelative: Alaqua Cox's cousin, Dornell Darnell Besaw, returns to play young Maya in the show's flashbacks.
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** They bring back Darnell Besaw as young Maya in new flashback scenes.
** Isabella Madrigal [[WesternAnimation/{{Encanto}} (not that one)]] plays young Chula [[spoiler:in Maya's ancestral flashbacks.]]
** They bring back Darnell Besaw as young Maya in new flashback scenes.
** Isabella Madrigal [[WesternAnimation/{{Encanto}} (not that one)]] plays young Chula [[spoiler:in Maya's ancestral flashbacks.]]
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* ActorInspiredElement: Because Creator/AlaquaCox is an amputee, the stunt team incorporated her prosthetic into the show's fight choreography, with Maya able to shrug off low kicks to her leg and using the metal and carbon fibre material to hurt opponents.
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* ActorInspiredElement: Because Creator/AlaquaCox is an amputee, the stunt team incorporated her prosthetic into the show's fight choreography, with Maya able to shrug off low kicks blows to her leg prosthetic and using the metal and carbon fibre material to hurt opponents.
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* StuntDouble: For practical reasons, Echo's more acrobatic stunts and fight choreography was handled by Creator/AlaquaCox's stunt double.[[note]]Principal photography was rushed and chaotic and no one wanted to risk Cox getting injured and causing delays. Plus, Cox's prosthetic doesn't provide the natural range of motion needed to achieve the movements required in some sequences.[[/note]]
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/TantooCardinal (Chula), Devery Jacobs (Bonnie), Cody Lightning (Biscuits), and Creator/GrahamGreeneActor (Skully) are Canadians playing Americans.
* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctaw descent[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox is Menominee and Mohican, Creator/ChaskeSpencer is Lakota, Nez Perce, and Muscogee, Tantoo Cardinal is Cree and Métis from Canada, Devery Jacobs is Mohawk, Creator/ZahnMcClarnon is Lakota, Cody Lightning is Cree, and Creator/GrahamGreeneActor is Oneida[[/note]].
* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctaw descent[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox is Menominee and Mohican, Creator/ChaskeSpencer is Lakota, Nez Perce, and Muscogee, Tantoo Cardinal is Cree and Métis from Canada, Devery Jacobs is Mohawk, Creator/ZahnMcClarnon is Lakota, Cody Lightning is Cree, and Creator/GrahamGreeneActor is Oneida[[/note]].
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/TantooCardinal (Chula), Devery Jacobs (Bonnie), Cody Lightning (Biscuits), and Creator/GrahamGreeneActor Creator/{{Graham Greene|Actor}} (Skully) are Canadians playing Americans.
* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctawdescent[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox descent.[[note]]Creator/AlaquaCox is Menominee and Mohican, Creator/ChaskeSpencer is Lakota, Nez Perce, and Muscogee, Tantoo Cardinal is Cree and Métis from Canada, Devery Jacobs is Mohawk, Creator/ZahnMcClarnon is Lakota, Cody Lightning is Cree, and Creator/GrahamGreeneActor Creator/{{Graham Greene|Actor}} is Oneida[[/note]].Oneida.[[/note]]
* FakeNationality: Not about US citizenship (bar some Canadians), rather about UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} nations. Maya and her family are Choctaw but none of the actors are of Choctaw
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** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows.
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** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows.shows, but heavily implies.
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* ContinuityLockout: Despite what Brad Winderbaum has said above in AuthorsSavingThrow about trying to avoid this trope, there is still ''some'' connections to past MCU series that are required watching to make full sense of the characters:
** ''Series/Hawkeye2021'' is essentially required watching to get the full impact of Fisk and Maya's relationship, not to mention this is technically a SequelSeries to it.
** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows.
** ''Series/Hawkeye2021'' is essentially required watching to get the full impact of Fisk and Maya's relationship, not to mention this is technically a SequelSeries to it.
** ''Series/Daredevil2015'' is also considered canonical to the wider [=MCU=] as of this series airing, so watching at least the first series of that show will better display what Fisk was like when he was young, show Daredevil in his old suit using his older, more brutal TheOner fighting style, and also includes the attack on his father this series never shows.
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* CanonWelding: This series establishes that Fisk's backstory is the one shown in ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}''. Moreover, as of ''Echo'''s premiere on Disney+, the six Marvel Netflix series (''Daredevil'', ''Series/JessicaJones'', ''Series/LukeCage'', ''Series/IronFist'', ''Series/{{The Defenders|2017}}'' and ''Series/ThePunisher'') have been added to the official MCU chronological order and all of the six series plus ''Echo'' are listed together under ''The Defenders'' playlist
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** Creator/DeveryJacobs, who previously voiced OriginalCreation character Kahhori in ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If...?]]'', portrays Bonnie in this series. Jacobs is very much aware of the coincidence and has noted that her two characters aren't related.
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** Creator/DeveryJacobs, Creator/KawennahereDeveryJacobs, who previously voiced OriginalCreation OriginalGeneration character Kahhori in ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If...?]]'', portrays Bonnie in this series. Jacobs is very much aware of the coincidence and has noted that her two characters aren't related.