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* FakeNationality: Downplayed; Carrol O’Connor, an Irish American, is partying Archie Bunker, of Anglo-Saxon/English heritage.

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* FakeNationality: Downplayed; Carrol O’Connor, Carroll O'Connor, an Irish American, is partying Archie Bunker, of Anglo-Saxon/English heritage.



** Oddly enough, the only one out of the core foursome to fully escape this was Sally Struthers, who put on quite a bit of weight, and then became [[NeverLiveItDown widely known and ridiculed]] for those commercials shilling correspondence diplomas ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RKQRVn4NAs you know the ones]]) and later, {{narm}}-laden appeals for children-oriented charities.

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** Oddly enough, the only one out of the core foursome to fully escape this was Sally Struthers, who put on quite a bit of weight, and then became [[NeverLiveItDown widely known and ridiculed]] ridiculed for those commercials shilling correspondence diplomas ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RKQRVn4NAs you know the ones]]) and later, {{narm}}-laden appeals for children-oriented charities.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: While it would certainly still be sad, the Stivics' move to California would have been a lot easier on the Bunkers in today's age of free long-distance calling, text messaging, social networking, and Skype. Could also work as a bit of Fridge Sadness for young viewers when they stop and think how hard it really must have been on the Bunkers for the kids to move across the country without all of today's technology to keep them close.


** Creator/JackieGleason turned down the role of Archie Bunker.



** Long before she became [[Series/LaverneAndShirley Laverne]], Penny Marshall was up for the role of Gloria. Had she gotten it, she could have worked alongside [[RealLifeRelative then-husband]] Rob Reiner.

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** Long before she became [[Series/LaverneAndShirley Laverne]], Penny Marshall Creator/PennyMarshall was up for the role of Gloria. Had she gotten it, she could have worked alongside [[RealLifeRelative then-husband]] Rob Reiner.

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* FakeNationality: Downplayed; Carrol O’Connor, an Irish American, is partying Archie Bunker, of Anglo-Saxon/English heritage.


** Creator/HarlanEllison wrote that he saw the filming of the pilot for the show then called ''Those Were The Days'' and planned for ABC, and it included the famous scene where Archie explains that "God damn it" isn't really swearing.[[note]]That did get used in the show, in "We're Having A Heatwave", after Michael's beautiful "WATERGATEWATERGATEWATERGATE" moment.[[/note]] Ellison said the show had "rare good humor and extraordinarily good taste.", was "adult, funny and presumptuous", and "would have made a dynamite series." When Lear asked the audience for comments, Ellison asked him if, given what happened with NBC's ''Turn-On'', Lear really thought ABC would go for it. Lear was sure they would, and of course they didn't, and Ellison wrote his ''Glass Teat'' column for that week shaking his head regretfully over Lear's "belief in Santa Claus".

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** Creator/HarlanEllison wrote that he saw the filming of the pilot for the show then called ''Those Were The Days'' and planned for ABC, and it included the famous scene where Archie explains that "God damn it" isn't really swearing.[[note]]That did get used in the show, in "We're Having A Heatwave", after Michael's beautiful "WATERGATEWATERGATEWATERGATE" moment.[[/note]] Ellison said the show had "rare good humor and extraordinarily good taste.", was "adult, funny and presumptuous", and "would have made a dynamite series." When Lear asked the audience for comments, Ellison asked him if, given what happened with NBC's ABC's ''Turn-On'', Lear really thought ABC would go for it. Lear was sure they would, and of course they didn't, and Ellison wrote his ''Glass Teat'' column for that week shaking his head regretfully over Lear's "belief in Santa Claus".


** The pilot episode, "Meet the Bunkers", was actually the ''third'' pilot produced (becoming the first show with three separate pilots - a few years earlier, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Star Trek]]'' had been the first with two). In both pilots prior to the one that was greenlit, Michael was an Irish-American named Dickie and the Bunkers' last name was Justice. The first pilot, produced in 1968 for Creator/{{ABC}}, not CBS, was entitled "[[PunBasedTitle Justice for All]]" and was actually filmed in New York; the second pilot, filmed in Hollywood in 1969, was called "Those Were the Days". "Dickie" and Gloria were recast twice; the same actor (D'Urville Martin) played Lionel in both original pilots but was replaced for the final 1970 pilot.

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** The pilot episode, "Meet the Bunkers", was actually the ''third'' pilot produced (becoming the first show with three separate pilots - a few years earlier, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Star Trek]]'' had been the first with two). In both pilots prior to the one that was greenlit, Michael was an Irish-American named Dickie and the Bunkers' last name was Justice. The first pilot, produced in 1968 for Creator/{{ABC}}, not CBS, was entitled "[[PunBasedTitle Justice for All]]" and was actually filmed in New York; the second pilot, filmed in Hollywood in 1969, was called "Those Were the Days". ABC turned the project down out of fear over what happened regarding the infamous sketch comedy ''Turn-On''. "Dickie" and Gloria were recast twice; the same actor (D'Urville Martin) played Lionel in both original pilots but was replaced for the final 1970 pilot.

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* DyeHard: Creator/RobReiner actually wore a wig for most of his run as Mike due to his baldness advancing quickly.

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** Roscoe Lee Brown appeared twice as two different people. As Archie's French hospital roommate Jean Duval in "Archie In The Hospital" and as Hugh Victor Thompson III in "The Elevator Story".

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* MissingEpisode: Several, though none were "episodes" in the traditional sense of the word.
** Both the first and second pilot never aired, as the roles were re-cast and the sets rebuilt. All three pilots, including the aired "Meet the Bunkers", use largely the same script.
** In 1975, in response to the FCC instituting the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Viewing_Hour Family Viewing Hour]] (similar to the {{Watershed}} in most other countries), the cast performed [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oypjEhAdzsA a sketch]] showing what ''All in the Family'' would be like (as the show aired at 8:00 - it was moved to 9:00 in the following season specifically to avoid having to lighten its tone or content). The sketch is notable as the first example of the many "''All in the Family'' could never work today" parody sketches that have been made over the years - but as performed by ''the actual cast''. This was followed by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvrIltxWnS0 a reworking of the iconic theme tune]] called "These ''Are'' The Days". This sketch was never aired, though it was performed before the live studio audience (presumably as a warmup for a taping of a real episode).

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** Creator/HarlanEllison wrote that he saw the filming of the pilot for the show then called ''Those Were The Days'' and planned for ABC, and it included the famous scene where Archie explains that "God damn it" isn't really swearing.[[note]]That did get used in the show, in "We're Having A Heatwave", after Michael's beautiful "WATERGATEWATERGATEWATERGATE" moment.[[/note]] Ellison said the show had "rare good humor and extraordinarily good taste.", was "adult, funny and presumptuous", and "would have made a dynamite series." When Lear asked the audience for comments, Ellison asked him if, given what happened with NBC's ''Turn-On'', Lear really thought ABC would go for it. Lear was sure they would, and of course they didn't, and Ellison wrote his ''Glass Teat'' column for that week shaking his head regretfully over Lear's "belief in Santa Claus".


* PostScriptSeason: The show wrapped up its eighth season with Mike, Gloria, and Joey moving to California. Creator/RobReiner and Sally Struthers had announced they were leaving the show, and producer NormanLear couldn't imagine continuing it without them, so having the Stivics say goodbye to Archie and Edith was conceived as a perfect TearJerker ending to the show... until CBS executives offered Carroll O'Connor [[MoneyDearBoy $100,000 an episode]] to come back as Archie, and he agreed. Not only did the show continue for a ninth season (without Reiner, Struthers, or Lear), it got an AfterShow in ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace''.

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* PostScriptSeason: The show wrapped up its eighth season with Mike, Gloria, and Joey moving to California. Creator/RobReiner and Sally Struthers had announced they were leaving the show, and producer NormanLear Creator/NormanLear couldn't imagine continuing it without them, so having the Stivics say goodbye to Archie and Edith was conceived as a perfect TearJerker ending to the show... until CBS executives offered Carroll O'Connor [[MoneyDearBoy $100,000 an episode]] to come back as Archie, and he agreed. Not only did the show continue for a ninth season (without Reiner, Struthers, or Lear), it got an AfterShow in ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace''.

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://all-in-the-family-tv-show.wikia.com/wiki/All_In_The_Family_TV_show_Wiki All In The Family Wiki]], and another [[http://allinthefamily.wikia.com/wiki/All_in_the_Family All In The Family Wiki]].


* SeparatedAtBirthCasting: By all reports, what sealed the casting of Sally Struthers for the role of Gloria (over stronger, more assertive actresses like Penny Marshall) was her strong resemblance to Carroll O'Connor.

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* SeparatedAtBirthCasting: By all reports, what sealed the casting of Sally Struthers for the role of Gloria (over stronger, more assertive actresses like Penny Marshall) was her strong resemblance to Carroll O'Connor.

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* SeparatedAtBirthCasting: By all reports, what sealed the casting of Sally Struthers for the role of Gloria (over stronger, more assertive actresses like Penny Marshall) was her strong resemblance to Carroll O'Connor.


** Even Rob Reiner, who became a successful director, has often said that if he were to win the Nobel Prize, all the headlines would read "MEATHEAD WINS NOBEL PRIZE". It was a double trumping as he was first known mostly as Carl Reiner's son.

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** Even Rob Reiner, Creator/RobReiner, who became a successful director, has often said that if he were to win the Nobel Prize, all the headlines would read "MEATHEAD WINS NOBEL PRIZE". It was a double trumping as he was first known mostly as Carl Reiner's son.


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* PostScriptSeason: The show wrapped up its eighth season with Mike, Gloria, and Joey moving to California. Creator/RobReiner and Sally Struthers had announced they were leaving the show, and producer NormanLear couldn't imagine continuing it without them, so having the Stivics say goodbye to Archie and Edith was conceived as a perfect TearJerker ending to the show... until CBS executives offered Carroll O'Connor [[MoneyDearBoy $100,000 an episode]] to come back as Archie, and he agreed. Not only did the show continue for a ninth season (without Reiner, Struthers, or Lear), it got an AfterShow in ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace''.

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