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* [[ExpositionFairy Omochao]] gets a lot of heat for being an AnnoyingVideoGameHelper with a grating voice and advice, which couldn't be disabled until ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' and was often the grade of [[CaptainObvious "keep your HP above zero" and "hit the boss."]] To make matters worse, not only is he a [[ReplacementScrappy downgraded Tikal]] -- who served the same role, but with less of Omochao's flaws and actually being relevant to the story -- but also replaced Cream in ''VideoGame/TeamSonicRacing'' for Team Rose's lineup, with no mention of her anywhere. While the series has made several self-aware references to his unpopularity, to the point where he's ammo for the hidden [[LethalJokeWeapon Omochao Gun]] in ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'', fans wish he could just be sent to the scrapyard for good.

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* [[ExpositionFairy Omochao]] gets a lot of heat for being an AnnoyingVideoGameHelper with a grating voice and advice, which couldn't be disabled until ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' and was often the grade of [[CaptainObvious "keep your HP above zero" and "hit the boss."]] boss"]]. To make matters worse, not only is he a [[ReplacementScrappy downgraded Tikal]] -- who served the same role, but with less of Omochao's flaws and actually being relevant to the story -- but also replaced Cream in ''VideoGame/TeamSonicRacing'' for Team Rose's lineup, line-up, with no mention of her anywhere. While the series has made several self-aware references to his unpopularity, to unpopularity (to the point where he's ammo for the hidden [[LethalJokeWeapon Omochao Gun]] in ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'', ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog''), fans wish he they could just be sent to the scrapyard remove his batteries and leave him that way for good.



** The [[GeneralRipper G.U.N. Commander]] has his fair share of people who see him as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. A younger brother figure to Maria, he's so heartbroken by her death fifty years later that [[RevengeBeforeReason he blames Shadow for everything]] that happened aboard the ARK, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite rising to take leadership of the faction that caused Maria's death]]. And all the Commander gets is a HeelRealization when he realizes Shadow wasn't at fault. Other than a brief appearance in ''Videogame/SonicChronicles'', the character has been quietly dropped, and there are few fans who mourn his absence.

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** The [[GeneralRipper G.U.N. Commander]] has his fair share of people who see him as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. A younger brother figure to Maria, he's so heartbroken by her death fifty years later that [[RevengeBeforeReason he blames Shadow for everything]] that happened aboard the ARK, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite rising to take leadership of the faction that caused Maria's death]]. And Then, all the Commander gets development-wise is a HeelRealization when he realizes Shadow wasn't at fault. Other than a brief appearance in ''Videogame/SonicChronicles'', the character has been quietly dropped, and there are few fans who mourn his absence.
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Unlike the Omochao example above, Eggman didn't have an established team, so Zavok didn't technically "replace" anyone.


* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaCopy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has gotten particular flak for his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaCopy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has gotten particular flak for his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] role of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaCopy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaCopy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to gotten particular flak for his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* Big the Cat made a rather poor first impression in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''. He was a fairly shallow FatIdiot who spends his share of the story constantly chasing after his pet Froggy, only to lose him over and over again. He's [[TrappedByMountainLions only tangentially related to the plot]] by virtue of his pet frog swallowing a Chaos Emerald. His gameplay is also generally considered the weakest, composed of slow, dull, repetitive fishing for the frog. ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' would reduce him to a background gag in some cutscenes and levels, though he occasionally reappears as Amy's teammate.
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* Big the Cat made a rather poor first impression in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''. He was a fairly shallow FatIdiot who spends his share of the story constantly chasing after his pet Froggy, only to lose him over and over again. He's [[TrappedByMountainLions only tangentially related to the plot]] by virtue of his pet frog swallowing a Chaos Emerald. His gameplay is also generally considered the weakest, composed of slow, dull, repetitive fishing for the frog. ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' would reduce him to a background gag in some cutscenes and levels, though he occasionally reappears as Amy's teammate.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaExpy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaExpy [[KingKoopaCopy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[KingKoopaExpy Bowser and his Koopalings]] in a game geared toward [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]].Mario]] fans. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits, [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and pathetically easy boss fights. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being [[FlatCharacter mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits, traits]], [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and [[AnticlimaxBoss pathetically easy boss fights.fights]]. They only really exist as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits, with [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]] and [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], only really being added as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits, with [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]] and designs]], [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], and pathetically easy boss fights. They only really being added exist as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being mostly-bland and forgettable villains with [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]] and [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], only really being added as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.

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* ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'': The [[PsychoRangers Deadly Six]] are generally disliked as a group for being mostly-bland mostly bland and forgettable villains explicitly written around singular defining traits, with [[NonStandardCharacterDesign unfitting character designs]] and [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere little explanation for their existence]], only really being added as Sonic's answer to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser and his Koopalings]]. Their leader, Zavok, has been called a CreatorsPet due to his overexposure in games following his debut; including having a boss fight in ''Videogame/SonicForces'' and being the third member of Team Eggman in ''Videogame/TeamSonicRacing'' despite how inconsistent this is with his previous motivations, particularly how he's canonically established to loathe Eggman. Some fans [[ReplacementScrappy believe he usurped the role]] of better-received characters who would have fit the team more naturally -- good examples including [[TheDragon Infinite]] or [[BumblingHenchmenDuo Orbot & Cubot]] -- in ''Team Sonic Racing''.
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** [[DomesticAbuse Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. [[XPacHeat They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all]].

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** [[DomesticAbuse Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. [[XPacHeat They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all]]. If anything, him not appearing in the IDW comic is usually seen as being ''almost'' worth the original comic's cancellation.
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** [[DomesticAbuse Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.

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** [[DomesticAbuse Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. [[XPacHeat They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.all]].
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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles[[note]]The most infamous case being with Amy’s role in inspiring Shadow’s HeelFaceTurn in the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' adaptation[[/note]]). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.

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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles[[note]]The most infamous case being with Amy’s role in [[spoiler: inspiring Shadow’s HeelFaceTurn HeelFaceTurn]] in the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' adaptation[[/note]]). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.
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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles[[note]]Most infamously with Amy’s role in Shadow’s HeelFaceTurn in the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' adaptation[[/note]]). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.

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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles[[note]]Most infamously roles[[note]]The most infamous case being with Amy’s role in inspiring Shadow’s HeelFaceTurn in the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' adaptation[[/note]]). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.
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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.

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* ''Anime/SonicX'': [[TagalongKid Chris Thorndyke]] for taking the spotlight away from the canon cast, even getting more screentime than Sonic himself. Chris compensates by being an unpopular character in his own right, with no meaningful development across two seasons[[note]]only by the end of season 2, he starts to learn to be less dependant of Sonic[[/note]], lack of relatability despite being an AudienceSurrogate, [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading unnerving]] dependence [[NoYay on Sonic]][[note]]To the point where he prevented Sonic's departure and likely stranded him on Earth, and he went to Sonic's world on his own as an adult just for an opportunity to see Sonic and friends again.[[/note]], and bare contributions to the plot (aside from getting kidnapped or taking other characters' roles).roles[[note]]Most infamously with Amy’s role in Shadow’s HeelFaceTurn in the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' adaptation[[/note]]). While Chris was more useful and had more character development in the third season, it wasn't enough for many.
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** Abby the koala from ''Mobius: 25 Years Later'', Knuckles and Julie-Su's maid, is a very minor character who nevertheless has a rather large hatedom. It stems from a combination of her creepy design (she looks a bit ''too'' much like an actual koala when put next to the other, stylized characters) and her characterization veering too close to TheMammy for most people.

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** Abby the koala from ''Mobius: 25 Years Later'', Knuckles and Julie-Su's maid, is a very minor character who nevertheless has a rather large hatedom. It stems from a combination of her creepy design (she looks a bit ''too'' much like an actual koala when put next to the other, stylized characters) and her characterization veering too close to TheMammy a {{Mammy}} for most people.
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** Abby the koala from ''Mobius: 25 Years Later'', Knuckles and Julie-Su's maid, is a very minor character who nevertheless has a rather large hatedom. It stems from a combination of her creepy design (she looks a bit ''too'' much like an actual koala when put next to the other, stylized characters) and her characterization veering too close to TheMammy for most people.
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** [[DomesticAbuser Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.

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** [[DomesticAbuser [[DomesticAbuse Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[KindheartedSimpleton Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap all characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.
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** [[DamselInDistress Princess]] [[BarrierMaiden Elise]]'s role is [[DamselScrappy essentially to get kidnapped repeatedly]] and reduce Sonic's role in the story to [[TrappedByMountainLions having to chase after and lose her each time]]. She also has [[FlatCharacter barely any clear traits beyond being blandly nice]], and -- outside of the two levels where she accompanies Sonic -- can't do much to help the heroes. Yet these pale in comparison to her InterspeciesRomance with Sonic, culminating in [[spoiler:her [[DudeShesLikeInAComa kissing his corpse]] to [[BackFromTheDead resurrect him]] in the finale]], adding both [[DieForOurShip shipping]] [[NoYay controversy]] and {{Squick}} to the mix.

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** [[DamselInDistress Princess]] [[BarrierMaiden Princess Elise]]'s role is [[DamselScrappy essentially to get kidnapped repeatedly]] and reduce Sonic's role in the story to [[TrappedByMountainLions having to chase after and lose her each time]]. She also has [[FlatCharacter barely any clear traits beyond being blandly nice]], and -- outside of the two levels where she accompanies Sonic -- can't do much to help the heroes. Yet these pale in comparison to her InterspeciesRomance with Sonic, culminating in [[spoiler:her [[DudeShesLikeInAComa kissing his corpse]] to [[BackFromTheDead resurrect him]] in the finale]], adding both [[DieForOurShip shipping]] [[NoYay shipping controversy]] and {{Squick}} to the mix.



** [[DomesticAbuser Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[BigFun Big]] [[KindheartedSimpleton the]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cat]] of all characters). However, readers thought this missed the point. They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.

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** [[DomesticAbuser Drago Wolf]] goes beyond HateSink or LoveToHate into this. For many, his abusive behavior hit too close to home and was out of left field in a ''Sonic'' comic. His other contribution to the ''Endgame'' arc, framing Sonic for murder, made little sense and sidetracked the story. [[CreatorsPest Not even writer Ian Flynn liked Drago]], gleefully stating that he only used the guy whenever he wants someone to be [[TheChewToy thrashed by the heroes]] (at one point even [[CurbStompBattle getting his teeth knocked in]] by [[BigFun Big]] [[KindheartedSimpleton the]] Big the Cat]] of [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Cat]] of all characters).characters]]). However, readers thought this missed the point. They didn't want to see Drago beaten up; they just didn't want to see him at all.



** Rosemary and Amadeus Prower, Tails' mother and father respectively, are disliked for leading a civil war against the Acorns. Rosemary is disliked more than Amadeus due to her more prominent role in said civil war and [[ObstructiveBureaucrat continuing to vote against the Freedom Fighters]] out of an overwhelming distrust of the Acorn crown. Amadeus at least managed to settle things with the Acorns peacefully and have a change of heart, but Rosemary continued to [[TheMillstone constantly make things worse than if she weren't there for the Freedom Fighters]], complete with arguments against the crown that bordered on IrrationalHatred. While the JerkassHasAPoint due to Maximilian's HorribleJudgeOfCharacter leading to the Great War, it didn't help Rosemary's popularity with the reader base. She and her husband [[RetGone never survived]] [[ExiledFromContinuity the Genesis Waves]].

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** Rosemary and Amadeus Prower, Tails' mother and father respectively, are disliked for leading a civil war against the Acorns. Rosemary is disliked more than Amadeus due to her more prominent role in said civil war and [[ObstructiveBureaucrat continuing to vote against the Freedom Fighters]] out of an overwhelming distrust of the Acorn crown. Amadeus at least managed to settle things with the Acorns peacefully and have a change of heart, but Rosemary continued to [[TheMillstone constantly make things worse than if she weren't there for the Freedom Fighters]], complete with arguments against the crown that bordered on IrrationalHatred. While the JerkassHasAPoint due to Maximilian's HorribleJudgeOfCharacter leading to the Great War, it didn't help Rosemary's popularity with the reader base. She and her husband [[RetGone never survived]] the [[ExiledFromContinuity the Genesis Waves]].
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** [[DamselInDistress Princess]] [[BarrierMaiden Elise]]'s role is [[DamselScrappy essentially to get kidnapped repeatedly]] and reduce Sonic's role in the story to [[TrappedByMountainLions having to chase after and lose her each time]]. She also has [[FlatCharacter barely any clear traits beyond being blandly nice]], and -- outside of the two levels where she accompanies Sonic -- can't do much to help the heroes. Yet these pale in comparison to her InterspeciesRomance with Sonic, culminating in [[spoiler:her [[DudeShesLikeInAComa kissing his corpse]] to [[BackFromTheDead resurrect him]] in the finale]], adding both [[DieForOurShip shipping controversy]] and {{Squick}} to the mix.

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** [[DamselInDistress Princess]] [[BarrierMaiden Elise]]'s role is [[DamselScrappy essentially to get kidnapped repeatedly]] and reduce Sonic's role in the story to [[TrappedByMountainLions having to chase after and lose her each time]]. She also has [[FlatCharacter barely any clear traits beyond being blandly nice]], and -- outside of the two levels where she accompanies Sonic -- can't do much to help the heroes. Yet these pale in comparison to her InterspeciesRomance with Sonic, culminating in [[spoiler:her [[DudeShesLikeInAComa kissing his corpse]] to [[BackFromTheDead resurrect him]] in the finale]], adding both [[DieForOurShip shipping shipping]] [[NoYay controversy]] and {{Squick}} to the mix.
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** Locke, Knuckles' dad, is very much hated for being framed in-story as a wise, sympathetic, well-intentioned figure despite all the questionable (and sometimes outright ''monstrous'') ways he guides his son into becoming an ideal guardian, from constant spying and manipulating to ''bombarding an unborn Knuckles with radiation in order to mutate him''. Even Locke's HeroicSacrifice to free Knuckles from his Enejak persona did little to rescue him from scrappydom, especially since he still needed half a dozen different callouts about all the stuff he did beforehand in order to take a hint about his own responsibility in that situation. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through.

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** Locke, Knuckles' dad, is very much hated for being framed in-story as a wise, sympathetic, well-intentioned figure despite all the questionable (and sometimes outright ''monstrous'') ways he guides his son into becoming an ideal guardian, from constant spying and manipulating to ''bombarding an unborn Knuckles with radiation in order to mutate him''. Even Locke's HeroicSacrifice to free Knuckles from his Enejak Enerjak persona did little to rescue him from scrappydom, especially since he still needed half a dozen different callouts about all the stuff he did beforehand in order to take a hint about his own responsibility in that situation. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad ([[{{Hypocrite}} anti-technology except when using it to spy on citizens]], [[FantasticRacism racist against Dingo minorities]], etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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** Locke, Knuckles' dad, is very much hated for being framed in-story as a wise, sympathetic, well-intentioned figure despite all the questionable (and sometimes outright ''monstrous'') ways he guides his son into becoming an ideal guardian, from constant spying and manipulating to ''bombarding an unborn Knuckles with radiation in order to mutate him''. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through. Even Locke's HeroicSacrifice to free Knuckles from his Enejak persona did little to rescue him from scrappydom, especially since he still needed half a dozen different callouts about all the stuff he did beforehand in order to take a hint about his own responsibility in that situation.

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** Locke, Knuckles' dad, is very much hated for being framed in-story as a wise, sympathetic, well-intentioned figure despite all the questionable (and sometimes outright ''monstrous'') ways he guides his son into becoming an ideal guardian, from constant spying and manipulating to ''bombarding an unborn Knuckles with radiation in order to mutate him''. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through. Even Locke's HeroicSacrifice to free Knuckles from his Enejak persona did little to rescue him from scrappydom, especially since he still needed half a dozen different callouts about all the stuff he did beforehand in order to take a hint about his own responsibility in that situation. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad ([[{{Hypocrite anti-technology except when using it to spy on citizens}}]], [[FantasticRacism racist against Dingo minorities]], etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad ([[{{Hypocrite ([[{{Hypocrite}} anti-technology except when using it to spy on citizens}}]], citizens]], [[FantasticRacism racist against Dingo minorities]], etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad (anti-technology despite using it all the time to spy on citizens, racist against Dingo minorities, etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad (anti-technology despite ([[{{Hypocrite anti-technology except when using it all the time to spy on citizens, citizens}}]], [[FantasticRacism racist against Dingo minorities, minorities]], etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad (anti-technology despite using it all the time to spy on citizens, racist against Dingo minorities, etc.) and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they all look like Knuckles, but one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they are numerous and all look like Knuckles, but with one or two differing accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they all share Knuckles' general design with one or two differing accessories, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they all share Knuckles' general design with look like Knuckles, but one or two differing accessories, accessories and sometimes an alternate color, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.
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** Locke, Knuckles' dad, is very much hated for being framed in-story as a wise, sympathetic, well-intentioned figure despite all the questionable (and sometimes outright ''monstrous'') ways he guides his son into becoming an ideal guardian, from constant spying and manipulating to ''bombarding an unborn Knuckles with radiation in order to mutate him''. Seeing that his creator, Ken Penders, wrote him as a stand-in for his own father, it's almost impossible to not notice a case of CreatorsPet seeping through. Even Locke's HeroicSacrifice to free Knuckles from his Enejak persona did little to rescue him from scrappydom, especially since he still needed half a dozen different callouts about all the stuff he did beforehand in order to take a hint about his own responsibility in that situation.
*** Related to Locke, the whole Brotherhood of Guardians, mostly because they share the same problematic ideals as Knuckles' dad and are supposed to be seen as a benevolent force despite coming off more as immortal {{Control Freak}}s, all while never getting attributed responsibility for any wrongdoing from their part. It also doesn't help that they all share Knuckles' general design with one or two differing accessories, making it hard to care about or take them seriously.

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