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** And frankly, watching the immediate aftermath of that breakup-getting drunk with Jason (who's facing the prospect of getting fired for sleeping with Sal) and causing mayhem at Galasso's-makes it seem that Walky's on the verge of a mental breakdown.
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* Dorothy and Walky have broken up. They tried to be 'on pause' until Dorothy's grades improved but after a relapse, they decide they can't be together because Dorothy just doesn't have enough time or energy to juggle schoolwork, extracurricular activities, a social life, ''and'' Walky. And Walky, for his part, no longer feels he has any reason to improve himself and, despite agreeing to the breakup, feels like he left the best version of himself at the spot they broke up.
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* Dorothy and Walky have broken up. They tried to be 'on pause' until Dorothy's grades improved but after a relapse, they decide they can't be together because Dorothy just doesn't have enough time or energy to juggle schoolwork, extracurricular activities, a social life, ''and'' Walky. And Walky, for his part, no longer feels he has any reason to improve himself and, despite agreeing to the breakup, feels like he left the best version of himself at the spot they broke up. Even when they were 'on pause' Walky quickly slipped back into his old habits of being a slob, eating junk food, and ignoring the fact that he's failing math.
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* Dorothy and Walky have broken up. They tried to be 'on pause' until Dorothy's grades improved but after a relapse, they decide they can't be together because Dorothy just doesn't have enough time or energy to juggle schoolwork, extracurricular activities, a social life, ''and'' Walky. And Walky, for his part, no longer feels he has any reason to improve himself and, despite agreeing to the breakup, feels like he left the best version of himself at the spot they broke up.
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because [[spoiler:she's the nicest person to him. I mean, we all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life?]]
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* Becky's [[spoiler: AnguishedDeclarationOfLove]] to Joyce, only for Joyce to reluctantly rebuff her.
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* Becky's [[spoiler: AnguishedDeclarationOfLove]] AnguishedDeclarationOfLove to Joyce, only for Joyce [[IncompatibleOrientation to reluctantly rebuff her.her]].
-->'''AltText''': oh god oh god i'm so sorry becky i'll make joyce gay if it makes you stop crying oh god please stop don't be sad
-->'''AltText''': oh god oh god i'm so sorry becky i'll make joyce gay if it makes you stop crying oh god please stop don't be sad
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* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/dark-room/ Joyce is really repressed]].
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* Joyce's acceptance and love for Becky is starting to become this, as it becomes obvious it is making it harder for Becky to accept Joyce's rejection. It gets to the point that Becky demands Joyce to be mad at her, after she fired Ethan as Joyce's boyfriend, but joyce had already broken up with Ethan, so Joyce just tells her that she helped.
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* Joyce's acceptance and love for Becky is starting to become this, as it becomes obvious it is making it harder for Becky to accept Joyce's rejection. It gets to the point that Becky demands Joyce to be mad at her, after she fired Ethan as Joyce's boyfriend, but joyce Joyce had already broken up with Ethan, so Joyce just tells her that she helped.
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** And leading to this, Joe sincerely believes it's better if [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/shallow/ nobody actually cares about him]], likely stemming from [[FreudianExcuse seeing his parents' marriage dissolve because of his father's philandering]].
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** And leading to this, Joe sincerely believes it's better if [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/shallow/ nobody actually cares about him]], likely stemming from [[FreudianExcuse seeing his parents' marriage dissolve dissolve]] because of [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/persistent/ his father's philandering]].
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-->'''Joyce''': Because I '''remember''' your list, and I understand that the game ''wasn't'' just limited t-to ''him''. That ''anybody could be thinking of me as an object. E-even my friends. And that it's seen as a ''harmless joke''. And I'm reminded that I-- I am '''never safe'''. '''[[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre Everything you do matters, Joe. More than you know]]'''.
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* Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/object/ lays some harsh realities on]] LoveableSexManiac Joe.
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-->Amber: [[spoiler: Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
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-->Danny:
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a
-->Amber:
'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.
-->Danny:
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling,
-->Amber:
'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.
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'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
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-->'''Sal''': You fuckin'- You really think this started that day? you really think ''That'' was the beginning? It fuckin' started the day we were born and you came out '''whiter'''.
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-->'''Sal''': You fuckin'- You really think this started that day? you You really think ''That'' ''that'' was the beginning? It fuckin' started the day we were born and you came out '''whiter'''.
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-->'''Becky (in tears):'''[[spoiler:Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that, right?]]
-->'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
* A commentor on the site gives a pretty clear reason why "To Those Who'd Ground Me" is a pretty crushing story arc;
-->'''Commenter:'''[[spoiler:This has been a genuinely painful arc. We have seen beloved characters hurt and humiliated and brought down to their lowest point. We have seen Dina lay bleeding in the woods, Joyce frozen in fear, her best friend taken from her and Becky brought by gunpoint to the horrible fate she tried to escape. We have seen a very realistic portrayal of power abuse and something that’s a real fear for too many youths.]]
-->'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
* A commentor on the site gives a pretty clear reason why "To Those Who'd Ground Me" is a pretty crushing story arc;
-->'''Commenter:'''[[spoiler:This has been a genuinely painful arc. We have seen beloved characters hurt and humiliated and brought down to their lowest point. We have seen Dina lay bleeding in the woods, Joyce frozen in fear, her best friend taken from her and Becky brought by gunpoint to the horrible fate she tried to escape. We have seen a very realistic portrayal of power abuse and something that’s a real fear for too many youths.]]
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-->'''Becky (in tears):'''[[spoiler:Do tears):''' [[spoiler:Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that, right?]]
-->'''Rossright?]]\\
'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
* Acommentor commenter on the site gives a pretty clear reason why "To Those Who'd Ground Me" is a pretty crushing story arc;
-->'''Commenter:'''[[spoiler:This -->'''Commenter:''' [[spoiler:This has been a genuinely painful arc. We have seen beloved characters hurt and humiliated and brought down to their lowest point. We have seen Dina lay bleeding in the woods, Joyce frozen in fear, her best friend taken from her and Becky brought by gunpoint to the horrible fate she tried to escape. We have seen a very realistic portrayal of power abuse and something that’s a real fear for too many youths.]]
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'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
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* [[spoiler:Ruth in hospital. Things seem to be going well(ish). Then Ruth and Billie hug, and...]]
-->'''Ruth:''' [inaudible]
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
-->'''Ruth:''' [inaudible]
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
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* [[spoiler:Ruth in the hospital. Things seem to be going well(ish). Then Ruth and Billie hug, and...]]
-->'''Ruth:'''[inaudible]
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:'''[inaudible]\\
'''Billie:''' What?\\
'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
-->'''Ruth:'''
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:'''
'''Billie:''' What?\\
'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
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* When Sal [[tries to talk casually to Danny (when she barely talks casually at all), Danny tells her to go away, [[spoiler:since Amber had just cut all ties with him for talking with Sal moments before]]. Sal looks genuinely hurt in panel 6. It doesn't help that she had admitted to herself that she's afraid of opening up to people [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/dumped/ just minutes ago]].
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* When Sal [[tries [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/dumped/ tries to talk casually to Danny with Danny]] (when she barely talks casually at all), Danny tells her to go away, [[spoiler:since Amber had just cut all ties with him for talking with Sal moments before]]. Sal looks genuinely hurt in panel 6. It doesn't help that she had admitted to herself that she's afraid of opening up to people [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/dumped/ com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/pissybaby/ just minutes ago]].ago]].
** And in the strip where she talks to herself, the first two panels are heartbreaking as well. Walky tells her in the first panel to not blame him for not being able to talk to family, since he had just given her a chance to. Sal in the second panel is obviously saddened. She ''knows'' she's messed up somehow, but her rough childhood and the mannerisms she got from that ''just won't let her do anything'' about it.
** And in the strip where she talks to herself, the first two panels are heartbreaking as well. Walky tells her in the first panel to not blame him for not being able to talk to family, since he had just given her a chance to. Sal in the second panel is obviously saddened. She ''knows'' she's messed up somehow, but her rough childhood and the mannerisms she got from that ''just won't let her do anything'' about it.
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* [[spoiler:Ruth in hospital. Things seem to be going well(ish). Then Ruth and Billie hug, and...]]
-->'''Ruth:''' [inaudible]
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
-->'''Ruth:''' [inaudible]
-->'''Billie:''' What?
-->'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
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* When discussing Dexter and Monkey Master with Dorothy, Walky mentions he and Sal used to watch it together. Compare the thought of ''Sal'' sitting down to watch a cartoon with her brother to the present day, where it's rare for her to be around Walky for more than a few minutes at best.
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** Quickly followed by TheReveal of [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/under/ her identity to Danny]].
--->'''Danny''': ''[[LateToTheRealization Oh my God]]''. Are you... ''Amber'' under there?\\
'''Amber''': ...[[BecomingTheMask I don't know.]]
--->'''Danny''': ''[[LateToTheRealization Oh my God]]''. Are you... ''Amber'' under there?\\
'''Amber''': ...[[BecomingTheMask I don't know.]]
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* While Becky is inside of her own home, reminiscing her life with her parents, we find out that [[spoiler:her mother attempted suicide, and it is ''soul-crushing.'''']]
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The strip's warning explicitly says it was attempted suicide. We don't know yet how Becky's mom exactly died.
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* While Becky is [[spoiler: inside of her own home, reminiscing her life with her parents, we find out just how Becky's that [[spoiler:her mother died, attempted suicide, and it is ''soul-crushing.'' [[DrivenToSuicide She killed herself via some kind of medicine/drug in a container.]]]]
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* Danny learns that [[spoiler: Amber could've been killed when she rescued Becky, and takes Sal's advice to try and get her to give up the act out of fear for her safety. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/buckle/ It does not go well, as Amber cuts all ties with him on the spot.]]]] What makes it worse that [[FunnyAneurysmMoment Danny messing things up used to be played for laughs.]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
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-->Amber: [[spoiler: Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]
-->Amber: [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.]]
-->Danny: [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
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--> '''Carla:''' You do whatever you want. I'm used to being everyone's acceptable loss.]]
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--> '''Carla:''' You do whatever you want. I'm used to being everyone's acceptable loss.]]
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* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD. [[spoiler:Her mother]] pushes her closer and closer [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Bonus points for her telling Joyce [[MeaningfulEcho the exact same line]] Ross told Becky when he was pointing a gun at her, no less. What is worse is that David Willis is directly channeling [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had his own experiences with his mother.]]
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* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD. [[spoiler:Her mother]] pushes her closer and closer [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ in this strip.]] Bonus points for her telling Joyce [[MeaningfulEcho the exact same line]] Ross told Becky when he was pointing a gun at her, no less. What is worse is that David Willis is directly channeling [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had his own experiences with his mother.]]
