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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when Optimus informs the children and seeing their reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. ''Ouch.'' Legends of the Microns even goes as far as to completely mute the kids' reactions so you can hear the emotional music.

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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when Optimus informs the children and seeing their reactions reactions. [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. Alexis.]] ''Ouch.'' Legends of the Microns even goes as far as to completely mute the kids' reactions so you can hear the emotional music.
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** Hot Shot blaming himself for Optimus's death in the following episode just hurts to watch considering that he blamed him for Starscream's betrayal.
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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when Optimus informs the children and seeing their reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. ''Ouch.''

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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when Optimus informs the children and seeing their reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. ''Ouch.'''' Legends of the Microns even goes as far as to completely mute the kids' reactions so you can hear the emotional music.

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** What got me with Optimus's death in ''Armada'' was Jetfire's reaction, the screams, and then his discovery that all that remained of Optimus was his faithful Mini-Con holding his Matrix.
** Sparkplug was what did it for me too. He didn't seem to know what was going on, just that he had to hold on to that thing.

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** What got me with A prominent part of Optimus's death in ''Armada'' was Jetfire's reaction, the screams, and then his discovery that all that remained of Optimus was his faithful Mini-Con holding his Matrix.
** Sparkplug was what did it for me too.
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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly ashamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
* The ending of episode 37, "Crack". Starscream choosing to abandon his new human friends he'd made among the Autobots for a chance to take down Megatron.
* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis". He didn't want to harm the earth and he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode, his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus. Looks like no matter which universe you're in, it sucks to be Screamer.
* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]] in "Cramp". It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. Their last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.

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* Hotshot's Hot Shot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath wrath, and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot Hot Shot, and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot Hot Shot is clearly ashamed and does not doesn't save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
* The ending of episode 37, "Crack". "Crack," when Starscream choosing chooses to abandon his new human friends he'd made among the Autobots for a chance to take down Megatron.
* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis". He didn't want to harm the earth earth, and he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode, his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out killed, and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus. Looks like no No matter which universe you're in, it sucks to be Screamer.
* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]] in "Cramp". It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, drama, but it was getting there. Their last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.



--> [[spoiler:'''Starscream''']]: None of that matters now. You must listen, do as Optimus says and join forces with the Autobots, or else every last one of us is doomed! ''Please sir...'' do it for me...
** Just to drive home the tragedy here, in the Japanese version, it's more clear that Starscream turns off his sword and that he allowed Megatron to finish him to make the point that infighting was pointless. Made even WORSE that prior to this in the Japanese dub, Starscream called Galvatron the "ultimate fighter". It certainly seems Starscream could've won the duel, but sacrificed himself for the greater good.
** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform the children, and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. ''Ouch.''
** There's also the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted. He just stands there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.
*** The truly touching thing was that Starscream was desperately trying to get Megatron to do the right thing, even if cost him his own life. He made a point how he remembers that a very long time ago he made an oath to Megatron and knows that he could never bring himself to break that oath by striking down Megatron.

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--> [[spoiler:'''Starscream''']]: None of that matters now. You must listen, do as Optimus says and join forces with the Autobots, or else every last one of us is doomed! ''Please ''Please, sir...'' do it for me...
** Just to To drive home the tragedy here, in the Japanese version, it's more clear that Starscream turns off his sword and that he allowed Megatron to finish him to make the point that infighting was pointless. Made even WORSE that prior to this Before this, in the Japanese dub, Starscream called Galvatron the "ultimate fighter". fighter," making it even WORSE. It certainly seems Starscream could've won the duel, duel but sacrificed himself for the greater good.
** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform Optimus informs the children, children and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. ''Ouch.''
** There's also the way Starscream's Minicon Mini-Con partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted. He just stands there, in the silence silence, and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.
*** The truly touching thing was that Starscream was desperately trying to get Megatron to do the right thing, even if it cost him his own life. He made a point Starscream points out how he remembers that a very long time ago he made an oath to Megatron a very long time ago and knows that he could never bring himself to break that oath by striking down Megatron.



* Optimus Prime's death in episode 39. (It's Optimus, of course he dies at least once.)
** What got me with Optimus's death in Armada was Jetfire's reaction, the screams and then his discovery that all that was left of Optimus was his faithful Minicon holding his Matrix.

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* Optimus Prime's death in episode 39. "Crisis". (It's Optimus, of course course, he dies at least once.)
** What got me with Optimus's death in Armada ''Armada'' was Jetfire's reaction, the screams screams, and then his discovery that all that was left remained of Optimus was his faithful Minicon Mini-Con holding his Matrix.



** How about the fact that unlike other versions? This one wasn't triumphant and nor did it look heroic.... he just.... turned to dust and that's it for him.
* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.
* [[spoiler:Galvatron sending himself to his own demise, knowing that if he lived the war would continue and Unicron would arise again.]] This show's got a high body count, but they make every one count.

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** How about the fact that unlike other versions? This one wasn't triumphant triumphant, and nor did it look heroic.... he just.... turned to dust dust, and that's it for him.
** The Japanese version makes it more heartwrenching with Rad's ending narration, suggesting that the falling meteorites in the last shot aren't meteorites but might be fragments of Optimus's body.
* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, ''Armada'', Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.
* [[spoiler:Galvatron sending himself to his own demise, knowing that if he lived lived, the war would continue and Unicron would arise again.]] This show's got a high body count, but they make every one count.
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** There's also the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.

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** There's also the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he reacted. He just stands there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.
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* The ending of episode 37, "Crack". Starscream choosing to abandon his new human friends he'd has made among the Autobots for a chance to take down Megatron.

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* The ending of episode 37, "Crack". Starscream choosing to abandon his new human friends he'd has he'd made among the Autobots for a chance to take down Megatron.
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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform the children, and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. I ''bawled.''
** How about the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.

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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform the children, and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. I ''bawled.''Ouch.''
** How about There's also the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.

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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly ashamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
* The ending of episode 37, "Crack". Starscream choosing to abandon his new human friends he'd has made among the Autobots for a chance to take down Megatron.



* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]]. It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. Their last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.

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* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]].suicide-by-Megatron]] in "Cramp". It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. Their last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.



* Optimus Prime's death. (It's Optimus, of course he dies at least once.)

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* Optimus Prime's death.death in episode 39. (It's Optimus, of course he dies at least once.)



* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.



* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.
* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly ashamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.

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* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.
* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly ashamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.

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[[caption-width-right:350: And to think in most continuities, Starscream didn't qualify for this...]]



** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform the children, and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. I BAWLED.

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** That wasn't even the most heartbreaking part. The worst part is when they inform the children, and seeing their individual reactions [[spoiler:Especially Alexis]]. I BAWLED.''bawled.''

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**In the following episode, when Megatron talks about Starscream, it may well the only time any Megatron has ever shown any Starscream some respect.



* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.

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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Star Saber away from Hotshot and it lands in front of the then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed ashamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
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** Just to drive home the tragedy here, in the Japanese version, it's more clear that Starscream turns off his sword and that he allowed Megatron to finish him to make the point that infighting was pointless. Made even WORSE that prior to this in the Japanese dub, Starscream called Galvatron the "ultimate fighter". It certainly seems Starscream could've won the duel, but sacrificed himself for the greater good.
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** How about the fact that unlike other versions? This one wasn't triumphant and nor did it look heroic.... he just.... turned to dust and that's it for him.
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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Starsber from Hotshot and land infront of the then evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.

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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sideways kicks the Starsber Star Saber away from Hotshot and land infront it lands in front of the then evil then-evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
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* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis". He didn't want to harm the earth and he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode, his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus. Looks like no matter which universe your in, it sucks to be Screamer.
* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]]. It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. There last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.

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* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis". He didn't want to harm the earth and he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode, his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus. Looks like no matter which universe your you're in, it sucks to be Screamer.
* [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]]. It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. There Their last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.



** How about the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands their, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.

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** How about the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands their, there, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.
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* [[spoiler: Smokescreen]] getting shot with the Requiem Blaster. Mostly just cause it looked so damn ''painful'', [[spoiler: even if Red Alert rebuilt him next episode]].
** Also if only just because he keeps trying to fight, even with the tree trunk-sized hole blown through his stomach and the metal on his body actually melting.
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* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis", he didn't want to harm the earth, he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus... Looks like no matter which universe your in, it sucks to be Screamer.

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* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis", he "Crisis". He didn't want to harm the earth, earth and he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode episode, his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus...Optimus. Looks like no matter which universe your in, it sucks to be Screamer.
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* Hotshot's beating "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sidewys kicks the Starsber from Hotshot and land infront of the then evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.

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* Hotshot's beating in "Credulous". He was trying to save Sideways from Megatron's wrath and when he does, he was hit with a rough case of reality. Sidewys Sideways kicks the Starsber from Hotshot and land infront of the then evil Starscream. Hotshot is clearly a shamed and does not save himself from Demolisher and Cyclonus.
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* [[spoiler:Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]]. It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there.

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* [[spoiler:Starscream's [[spoiler: Starscream's suicide-by-Megatron]]. It wasn't [[TearJerker/BeastWars Dinobot]] levels of dramatic, but it was getting there. There last talk certainly helps bring on the water-works.
--> [[spoiler:'''Starscream''']]: I tried to gain favor from you. But nothing was ever good enough. No matter how many battles I fought, [[WellDoneSonGuy you always found fault]]. [[AFatherToHisMen Then I saw how Optimus treated his men]], and I realized he was a leader of integrity. Unlike you.
--> [[spoiler:'''Megatron''']]: [[KickTheDog You were too weak to ever gain my respect.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Starscream''']]: None of that matters now. You must listen, do as Optimus says and join forces with the Autobots, or else every last one of us is doomed! ''Please sir...'' do it for me...
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** Also if only just because he keeps trying to fight, even with the tree trunk-sized hole blown through his stomach and the metal on his body actually melting.
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* After the final battle with Unicron at the end of Armada, Optimus is alive, floating in space. He sees the Matrix floating nearby and thinks to himself that he isn't worthy of wielding it, much less of being a leader anymore.

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* All of Starscream's inner-thoughts in "Crisis", he didn't want to harm the earth, he didn't want to fight Optimus. By the end of the episode his ''former'' human friends were nearly wiped out and he's at least partially responsible for the death of Optimus... Looks like no matter which universe your in, it sucks to be Screamer.
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*** The truly touching thing was that Starscream was desperately trying to get Megatron to do the right thing, even if cost him his own life. He made a point how he remembers that a very long time ago he made an oath to Megatron and knows that he could never bring himself to break that oath by striking down Megatron.
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* [[spoiler: Smokescreen]] getting shot with the Requiem Blaster. Mostly just cause it looked so damn ''painful'', [[spoiler: even if [[HeGotBetter Red Alert rebuilt him next episode]]]].

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** How about the way Starscream's Minicon partner Swindle (who Starscream ejected so he wouldn't share the same fate) reacted, he just stands their, in the silence and asks Optimus if there's any hope of [[spoiler:Starscream being alive]]. It's the ''way'' he beeps that really hits you in the gut.


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