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*** The music during this scene ("Letting Go") could not be fitting better. You can ''feel'' the desperation by just listening to the piece separately.

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* Three words "Forgive me Jane."

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* Three words "Forgive me me, Jane.""
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*** It's pretty sad for Odin, too. His final words to Loki before Loki let go probably ring through his head constantly. If he had just said something more compassionate and understanding, perhaps Loki would have accepted him to some degree but instead, Odin's final words were all he needed to hear to sink into the abyss. Made only worse by what happens [[Film/TheAvengers after]], because he probably saw everything and knew that in some way, he was always going to have to bear some of that blame.

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*** It's pretty sad for Odin, too. His final words to Loki before Loki let go probably ring through his head constantly. If he had just said something more compassionate and understanding, perhaps Loki would have accepted him to some degree but instead, Odin's final words were all he needed to hear to sink into the abyss. Made only worse by what happens [[Film/TheAvengers [[Film/TheAvengers2012 after]], because he probably saw everything and knew that in some way, he was always going to have to bear some of that blame.
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*** Thor thanking Loki for coming to see him. We know that Loki's manipulating him, but he still sees him as his brother and loves him. Poor guy.
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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.

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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.brother.
* Three words "Forgive me Jane."
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* Thor trying and failing to lift Mjölnir halfway through the movie. He walks up, a big grin on his face, and grabs the hammer...but he can't pull it out. He tries for a few minutes before falling to his knees and [[SkywardScream screaming incoherently at the sky]]. It's hard to describe the exact look on his face--it's like a soldier coming home to his wife, looking forward to his favorite meal, and finding out she doesn't even remember him.

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* Thor trying and failing to lift Mjölnir halfway through the movie. He walks up, a big grin on his face, and grabs the hammer...but he can't pull it out. He tries for a few minutes before falling to his knees and [[SkywardScream screaming incoherently at the sky]]. It's hard to describe the exact look on his face--it's face -- it's like a soldier coming home to his wife, looking forward to his favorite meal, and finding out she doesn't even remember him.



** From the Fridge Brilliance page, the first thing out of Loki's mouth when Odin walks in is 'Am I cursed?'. He's essentially figured out who he is and clearly wants ''desperately'' for it to be wrong, because he's a sorcerer, and if he's been cursed then he should be able to fix it, but even that's denied to him - he's clinging on till that moment, but when Odin confirms it, the audience can practically see him lose it.

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** From the Fridge Brilliance page, the first thing out of Loki's mouth when Odin walks in is 'Am I cursed?'. He's essentially figured out who he is and clearly wants ''desperately'' for it to be wrong, because he's a sorcerer, and if he's been cursed then he should be able to fix it, but even that's denied to him - -- he's clinging on till that moment, but when Odin confirms it, the audience can practically see him lose it.



* Odin's reaction to Thor's CallingTheOldManOut. It's so easy to forget that he's not just a king, he's a father who was terrified when his sons were [[AdultFear nearly killed going to the Jotunheim]] and therefore [[AngerBornOfWorry furious that Thor would put them (including his own younger brother) in such danger]]. Also Thor's look of shocked disbelief that [[IHaveNoSon his own father casts him out]]! The tremor in Odin's voice during this sequence cements it.

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* Odin's reaction to Thor's CallingTheOldManOut. It's so easy to forget that he's not just a king, he's a father who was terrified when his sons were [[AdultFear nearly killed going to the Jotunheim]] Jötunheim]] and therefore [[AngerBornOfWorry furious that Thor would put them (including his own younger brother) in such danger]]. Also Thor's look of shocked disbelief that [[IHaveNoSon his own father casts him out]]! The tremor in Odin's voice during this sequence cements it.



*** It's pretty sad for Odin too. His final words to Loki before Loki let go probably ring through his head constantly. If he had just said something more compassionate and understanding, perhaps Loki would have accepted him to some degree but instead, Odin's final words were all he needed to hear to sink into the abyss. Made only worse by what happens [[Film/TheAvengers after]], because he probably saw everything and knew that in some way, he was always going to have to bear some of that blame.

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*** It's pretty sad for Odin Odin, too. His final words to Loki before Loki let go probably ring through his head constantly. If he had just said something more compassionate and understanding, perhaps Loki would have accepted him to some degree but instead, Odin's final words were all he needed to hear to sink into the abyss. Made only worse by what happens [[Film/TheAvengers after]], because he probably saw everything and knew that in some way, he was always going to have to bear some of that blame.



* A blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment: just after Odin banishes Thor, Loki turns to look at him with a mixture of disbelief, hurt and anger. If you wanted proof that that wasn't part of his plan, there you have it.

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* A blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment: just after Odin banishes Thor, Loki turns to look at him with a mixture of disbelief, hurt hurt, and anger. If you wanted proof that that wasn't part of his plan, there you have it.
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** The trefoil sign appears as if to say, "You are not worthy" in what appears to be a small, quiet voice, making it even worse.
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* Thor trying and failing to lift Mjolnir halfway through the movie. He walks up, a big grin on his face, and grabs the hammer...but he can't pull it out. He tries for a few minutes before falling to his knees and [[SkywardScream screaming incoherently at the sky]]. It's hard to describe the exact look on his face--it's like a soldier coming home to his wife, looking forward to his favorite meal, and finding out she doesn't even remember him.
** Not long after this, a downtrodden Thor is taken into custody without a fight by the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, despite tearing through them minutes ago to reclaim Mjolnir.

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* Thor trying and failing to lift Mjolnir Mjölnir halfway through the movie. He walks up, a big grin on his face, and grabs the hammer...but he can't pull it out. He tries for a few minutes before falling to his knees and [[SkywardScream screaming incoherently at the sky]]. It's hard to describe the exact look on his face--it's like a soldier coming home to his wife, looking forward to his favorite meal, and finding out she doesn't even remember him.
** Not long after this, a downtrodden Thor is taken into custody without a fight by the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, despite tearing through them minutes ago to reclaim Mjolnir.Mjölnir.
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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's son]]. And when he's screaming about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' caused, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.

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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's Laufey's son]]. And when he's screaming about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' caused, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.
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** Not long after this, a downtrodden Thor is taken into custody without a fight by the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, despite tearing through them minutes ago to reclaim Mjolnir.
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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was ''Thor's'' favorite. If there's one thing that's pretty clear in the movie, it's that Thor genuinely loves his little brother.

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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was ''Thor's'' favorite. If And if there's one thing that's pretty clear in the movie, it's that Thor genuinely loves his little brother.
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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was Thor's favorite.

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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was Thor's favorite.''Thor's'' favorite. If there's one thing that's pretty clear in the movie, it's that Thor genuinely loves his little brother.
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* Odin's reaction to Thor's CallingTheOldManOut. It's so easy to forget that he's not just a king, he's a father who was terrified when his sons were [[AdultFear nearly killed going to the Jotunheim]] and therefore [[AngerBornOfWorry furious that Thor would put them in such danger]]. Also Thor's look of shocked disbelief that [[IHaveNoSon his own father casts him out]]! The tremor in Odin's voice during this sequence cements it.

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* Odin's reaction to Thor's CallingTheOldManOut. It's so easy to forget that he's not just a king, he's a father who was terrified when his sons were [[AdultFear nearly killed going to the Jotunheim]] and therefore [[AngerBornOfWorry furious that Thor would put them (including his own younger brother) in such danger]]. Also Thor's look of shocked disbelief that [[IHaveNoSon his own father casts him out]]! The tremor in Odin's voice during this sequence cements it.

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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.

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Thor: The Dark World Prelude #2
* After the events of the first film and ''Film/TheAvengers'', where a significant part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.
Thor: The Dark World
* When Thor visits Loki in his cell for the first time [[spoiler:to ask for his help to stop Malekith]], and Loki is all tough and defensive towards Thor, Thor tells Loki to drop his illusion. There's that split-second where Loki's eyes widen from the realization--that here is his brother who never fails to see through him and his true feelings and that there really is no point in pretending when it's him--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.
** And that's before we get to the reason why Loki is so broken: [[spoiler: he's grieving for the loss of their mother Frygga, who was killed by Malakith during the Dark Elf invasion of Asgard. Loki played a small but vital role in the events that led to her death (telling Malakith's Dragon to 'take the stairs to the left,' which led directly to Odin's chambers, where Frygga and Jane were hiding).]]

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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.

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Thor: The Dark World Prelude #2
* After the events of the first film and ''Film/TheAvengers'', where a significant part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.
Thor: The Dark World
* When Thor visits Loki in his cell for the first time [[spoiler:to ask for his help to stop Malekith]], and Loki is all tough and defensive towards Thor, Thor tells Loki to drop his illusion. There's that split-second where Loki's eyes widen from the realization--that here is his brother who never fails to see through him and his true feelings and that there really is no point in pretending when it's him--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.
** And that's before we get to the reason why Loki is so broken: [[spoiler: he's grieving for the loss of their mother Frygga, who was killed by Malakith during the Dark Elf invasion of Asgard. Loki played a small but vital role in the events that led to her death (telling Malakith's Dragon to 'take the stairs to the left,' which led directly to Odin's chambers, where Frygga and Jane were hiding).]]
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* When Thor visits Loki in his cell for the first time [[spoiler:to ask for his help to stop Malekith]], and Loki is all tough and defensive towards Thor, Thor tells Loki to drop his illusion. There's that split-second where Loki's eyes widen from the realization--that here is his brother who never fails to see through him and his true feelings and that there really is no point in pretending when it's him--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.

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* When Thor visits Loki in his cell for the first time [[spoiler:to ask for his help to stop Malekith]], and Loki is all tough and defensive towards Thor, Thor tells Loki to drop his illusion. There's that split-second where Loki's eyes widen from the realization--that here is his brother who never fails to see through him and his true feelings and that there really is no point in pretending when it's him--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.shambles.
** And that's before we get to the reason why Loki is so broken: [[spoiler: he's grieving for the loss of their mother Frygga, who was killed by Malakith during the Dark Elf invasion of Asgard. Loki played a small but vital role in the events that led to her death (telling Malakith's Dragon to 'take the stairs to the left,' which led directly to Odin's chambers, where Frygga and Jane were hiding).]]

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* When Thor calls on Loki's illusion and there's that split second where Loki's eyes widen from realization--that here is his brother who always sees through him and his true feelings--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.

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Thor: The Dark World
* When Thor calls on Loki's illusion visits Loki in his cell for the first time [[spoiler:to ask for his help to stop Malekith]], and there's Loki is all tough and defensive towards Thor, Thor tells Loki to drop his illusion. There's that split second split-second where Loki's eyes widen from the realization--that here is his brother who always sees never fails to see through him and his true feelings--before feelings and that there really is no point in pretending when it's him--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.
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* After the events of the first film and ''Film/TheAvengers'', where a significant part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.

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* After the events of the first film and ''Film/TheAvengers'', where a significant part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.face.
* When Thor calls on Loki's illusion and there's that split second where Loki's eyes widen from realization--that here is his brother who always sees through him and his true feelings--before he drops the act and we see him broken in the corner with his cell in shambles.
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** Odin accuses Loki of twisting his words during this scene, but you really don't need to do a lot of twisting to see how this conversation pushed the guy over the edge. Odin flat out states that his plans to use Loki for political peace no longer matter; so by extension, Loki no longer matters. At this stage Loki really looks like he's going to burst into tears.

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** Odin accuses Loki of twisting his words during this scene, but you really don't need to do a lot of twisting to see how this conversation pushed the guy over the edge. Odin flat out states that his plans to use Loki for political peace no longer matter; so by extension, Loki (mistakenly) believes he no longer matters. At this stage Loki really looks like he's going to burst into tears.
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*** Just listen to Loki while he's (more or less) begging Odin to understand his intentions. He sounds so young, you can hear the hurt little boy asking for reassurance from his father.
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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was his brother Thor's favorite.

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** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was his brother Thor's favorite.
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* In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was his brother Thor's favorite.

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* ** In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was his brother Thor's favorite.
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* In a meta example, it's really sad that Loki spent all this time wallowing in the fact that he wasn't his father's favorite, so much so that he never even realized he was his brother Thor's favorite.
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* After the events of the first film and [[''Film/TheAvengers'']], where part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.

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* After the events of the first film and [[''Film/TheAvengers'']], ''Film/TheAvengers'', where a significant part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.
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* After the events of the first film and [[Film/TheAvengers]], where part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.

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* After the events of the first film and [[Film/TheAvengers]], [[''Film/TheAvengers'']], where part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.
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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.

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** You'll notice while Loki is fighting, Loki is going all out but Thor is obviously holding back. Loki just assumes Thor is toying with him...Thor just doesn't want to hurt his little brother.brother.

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Thor: The Dark World Prelude #2
* After the events of the first film and [[Film/TheAvengers]], where part of Loki's motivation for his deeds was to obtain his adoptive father's approval, Odin disowns Loki and calls him Laufeyson to his face.
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** Odin accuses Loki of twisting his words during this scene, but you really don't need to do a lot of twisting to see how this conversation pushed the guy over the edge. Odin flat out states that his plans to use Loki for political peace no longer matter; so by extension, Loki no longer matters. At this stage Loki really looks like he's going to burst into tears.
**And you can hardly say is 'I am the monster parents tell their children about' line is unjustified, given that we've seen that Frost Giants were the monsters he was told about as a child. It's basically the equivalent of a human child finding out they're actually the bogey man.
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** From the Fridge Brilliance page, the first thing out of Loki's mouth when Odin walks in is 'Am I cursed?'. He's essentially figured out who he is and clearly wants ''desperately'' for it to be wrong, because he's a sorcerer, and if he's been cursed then he should be able to fix it, but even that's denied to him - he's clinging on till that moment, but when Odin confirms it, the audience can practically see him lose it.
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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's son]]. And when he's ranting about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' caused, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.

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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's son]]. And when he's ranting screaming about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' caused, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.
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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's son]]. And when he's ranting about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' cause, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.

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* The scene where Loki discovers that he's [[spoiler:a Frost Giant and Laufrey's son]]. And when he's ranting about how it's obvious that Odin never loved him as much as Thor, Odin falls into the Odinsleep. Loki, realizing what has happened that ''he'' cause, caused, looks horrified and slowly reaches out to hold Odin's hand before calling the guards in panic.

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