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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. He was a successful civil engineer, HappilyMarried to his wife Jill, and the two were expecting a child...until she suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they went through a messy divorce. John's nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle by a greedy dealer. When John was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain and could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky and his tumor was inoperable. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, [[StartOfDarkness which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature.]]
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. He was a successful civil engineer, HappilyMarried to his wife Jill, and the two were expecting a child...son...until she suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic (Cecil) and they went through a messy divorce. John's nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle by a greedy dealer.dealer (Mitch). When John was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain and could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky expensive (William) and his tumor was inoperable. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, [[StartOfDarkness which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature.]]]]
** Perhaps what's most depressing isn't just that John faced so many hardships throughout his life. It's that he, originally a very caring philanthropist, had his life screwed over again and again because if all the despicable people he kept running into or just saw: deceitful lawyers, abusive families, drug addicts, dirty cops, murders, corrupt politicians and CEOs, etc. As time went on and he faced HopeSpot after HopeSpot, he grew more and more dissatisfied, angry, and hopeless. But even as Jigsaw, he never really lost his belief in people or his desire to help them. His methods just became more extreme, born from a desperate desire to make sense of his fading life...
** Perhaps what's most depressing isn't just that John faced so many hardships throughout his life. It's that he, originally a very caring philanthropist, had his life screwed over again and again because if all the despicable people he kept running into or just saw: deceitful lawyers, abusive families, drug addicts, dirty cops, murders, corrupt politicians and CEOs, etc. As time went on and he faced HopeSpot after HopeSpot, he grew more and more dissatisfied, angry, and hopeless. But even as Jigsaw, he never really lost his belief in people or his desire to help them. His methods just became more extreme, born from a desperate desire to make sense of his fading life...
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife Jill suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; and after he was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain, but it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, [[StartOfDarkness which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature.]]
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His He was a successful civil engineer, HappilyMarried to his wife Jill Jill, and the two were expecting a child...until she suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his divorce. John's nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; and after he motorcycle by a greedy dealer. When John was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain, but it brain and could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky. risky and his tumor was inoperable. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide suicide]] by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, [[StartOfDarkness which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature.]] ]]
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** The last scene in general is absolutely heartbreaking. Adam has just brutally killed Zep to save Lawrence, and he immediately [[BleedEmAndWeep breaks down sobbing afterward,]] and Lawrence crawls across the floor, bleeding profusely, just to comfort him. They [[HeadButtOfLove press their foreheads together,]] and Lawrence hoarsely promises to get help for the two of them, but Adam grips onto him for dear life, [[PleaseDontLeaveMe begging him to not leave.]] Right as Lawrence is about to crawl out, Adam tearfully asks if they're going to be okay, and Lawrence says that he wouldn't lie to him. It just shows how far they've come from the beginning of the film, where they were burdened with suspicions of each other, to the point where they trust each other with their lives.
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** The last scene in general is absolutely heartbreaking. Adam has just brutally killed Zep Zepp to save Lawrence, and he immediately [[BleedEmAndWeep breaks down sobbing afterward,]] and Lawrence crawls across the floor, bleeding profusely, just to comfort him. They [[HeadButtOfLove press their foreheads together,]] and Lawrence hoarsely promises to get help for the two of them, but Adam grips onto him for dear life, [[PleaseDontLeaveMe begging him to not leave.]] Right as Lawrence is about to crawl out, Adam tearfully asks if they're going to be okay, and Lawrence says that he wouldn't lie to him. It just shows how far they've come from the beginning of the film, where they were burdened with suspicions of each other, to the point where they trust each other with their lives.
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager, and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages;]] he likely felt an immense amount of [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]] for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager, and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages;]] he likely felt an immense amount of [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]] for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.alive.
* Anna's husband Matthew and their baby have to be two of the most tragic victims in the entire franchise. Their family was originally very kind and supportive neighbors of John's, helping him get through his chemo treatments. As time went on, however, they argued more often and Anna became increasingly frustrated and spiteful toward their baby. One night, when their baby wouldn't stop crying, Anna ''suffocated them'' and framed Matthew. He was utterly devastated by the event and was sent to an asylum by police. Overwhelmed by guilt, [[DrivenToSuicide he hanged himself.]]
* Anna's husband Matthew and their baby have to be two of the most tragic victims in the entire franchise. Their family was originally very kind and supportive neighbors of John's, helping him get through his chemo treatments. As time went on, however, they argued more often and Anna became increasingly frustrated and spiteful toward their baby. One night, when their baby wouldn't stop crying, Anna ''suffocated them'' and framed Matthew. He was utterly devastated by the event and was sent to an asylum by police. Overwhelmed by guilt, [[DrivenToSuicide he hanged himself.]]
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife Jill suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; and after he was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain, but it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife Jill suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; and after he was diagnosed with colon cancer, it metastasized to his brain, but it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage since it was risky. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, [[StartOfDarkness which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. nature.]]
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager, and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages;]] he likely feels an immense amount of [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]] for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager, and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages;]] he likely feels felt an immense amount of [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]] for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have for them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have for them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son, and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, and it was possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy is condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken. It's horrifying to watch, as he's able to beg for help and scream in pain the entire time. Judge Halden implores Jeff to help, and he just stands there, gloating. But eventually it sets in for Jeff after Halden is shot while trying to help Timothy, and Jeff tries to stop the machine from snapping his neck with his bare hands, screaming that he forgives Timothy, but it's too late.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's eight year-old son, and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, and it was possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy is condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken. It's horrifying to watch, as he's able to beg for help and scream in pain the entire time. Judge Halden implores Jeff to help, and he just stands there, gloating. But eventually it sets in for Jeff after Halden is shot while trying to help Timothy, and Jeff tries to stop the machine from snapping his neck with his bare hands, screaming that he forgives Timothy, but it's too late.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. In his own twisted worldview, he has good intentions.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife Jill suffered a miscarriage during a botched robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; and after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that cancer, it metastasized to his brain, but it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital (Logan) not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be denied health insurance coverage.coverage since it was risky. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. In his own twisted worldview, he has good intentions.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy is condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son son, and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, and it was possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy is condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken. It's horrifying to watch, as he's able to beg for help and scream in pain the entire time. Judge Halden implores Jeff to help, and he just stands there, gloating. But eventually it sets in for Jeff after Halden is shot while trying to help Timothy, and Jeff tries to stop the machine from snapping his neck with his bare hands, screaming that he forgives Timothy, but it's too late.
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages; he probably feels an immense amount of SurvivorGuilt for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.]]
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager teenager, and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages; marriages;]] he probably likely feels an immense amount of SurvivorGuilt [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]] for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.]]
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* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the ending of ''Jigsaw.'' After being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves in the final test, shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he remembers John's words and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys, [[ExactWords realizes what John meant]], and breaks down crying.
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* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, and gruff, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the ending of ''Jigsaw.'' After being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves in the final test, shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he remembers John's words and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys, [[ExactWords realizes what John meant]], and breaks down crying.
--> '''Ryan:''' We could've been free,Anna...Anna...
** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages; he probably feels an immense amount of SurvivorGuilt for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.]]
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** For everyone else in the trap, their reason for being there was because of a crime they committed out of greed, negligence, or malice... except for Ryan, who pulled a reckless prank as a teenager and the car he was in with his friends crashed as a result. Once you learn this, [[FridgeHorror it makes more sense as to why he's had so many problems with substance abuse and unstable marriages; he probably feels an immense amount of SurvivorGuilt for being the only one to make it out of the wreck alive.]]
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. Had something along this chain been broken, the man may not have gone down the path he did.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. Had something along this chain been broken, the man may not have gone down the path In his own twisted worldview, he did.has good intentions.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. In his own twisted worldview, the man had good intentions.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. In his own twisted worldview, Had something along this chain been broken, the man had good intentions.may not have gone down the path he did.
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* [[TragicVillain John Kramer's]] life was one long nightmare. His wife suffered a miscarriage during a robbery at her clinic and they later went through a messy divorce; his nephew was killed after he was sold a faulty motorcycle; after he was diagnosed with colon cancer that metastasized to his brain, it could've been caught early had an intern at the hospital not accidentally mislabeled his X-ray. He tried chemo and even tried to participate in an experimental drug trial, only to be health insurance coverage. Ultimately, having lost hope, he tried to commit suicide by driving his car off a cliff. To his amazement, he survived, which lead him on the path to start testing the fabric of human nature. He saw people who he felt were wasting their lives and didn't appreciate what they had, and decided that they needed his help. In his own twisted worldview, the man had good intentions.
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* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the of ''Jigsaw.'' Being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell, and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he realizes that [[ExactWords John's words were meant literally]] and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys and breaks down crying.
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* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the ending of ''Jigsaw.'' Being After being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves in the final test, shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell, shell and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he realizes that [[ExactWords remembers John's words were meant literally]] and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys keys, [[ExactWords realizes what John meant]], and breaks down crying.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken.
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy is condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken.broken.
* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the of ''Jigsaw.'' Being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell, and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he realizes that [[ExactWords John's words were meant literally]] and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys and breaks down crying.
--> '''Ryan:''' We could've been free, Anna...
* Even if he is a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]] {{Jerkass}}, you can't help but feel sorry for Ryan by the of ''Jigsaw.'' Being forced to cut off his leg, he and Anna find themselves shackled to opposite walls as John explains that they've been doing things backwards. He offers them their key to freedom in the form of a shotgun and a shell, and says the choice is up to them. Anna takes it to mean that her only way out is to kill Ryan. As he begs her not to shoot, he realizes that [[ExactWords John's words were meant literally]] and tries to warn her, but the shotgun backfires, killing her instantly. Then, in the cartridge, Ryan finds a broken pair of keys and breaks down crying.
--> '''Ryan:''' We could've been free, Anna...
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** Before they enter the trap, judging by the look on Brit's face when Mallick angrily asks her if she knew about the eight people living in the warehouse when she decided to have it burned down to take the property, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she seems to have realized the gravity of what she's done.]]
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* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken.
* The Rack scene in ''Saw III.'' At 24 years old, while driving drunk, Timothy accidentally killed Jeff Denlon's son and was utterly devastated by what he'd done. He was sentenced to only six months in prison, but he still carried the guilt of what happened with him, possibly what drove him to become a medical student. Three years later, Jigsaw kidnaps him and puts him in a game, where Jeff, still filled with hatred over what happened, can't bring himself to help Timothy in time. Even when he tries to save him and even screams that he forgives him and for the trap to stop, it's too late. Timothy condemned to a truly CruelAndUnusualDeath where all of his limbs are twisted around and his neck is broken.
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* The look on [[BrokenBird Amanda's]] face as she lay on the floor, bleeding out at the end of ''Saw III,'' where the absolute terror is clearly visible. [[spoiler: All because of Hoffman wanting to take her out of the picture to become the new Jigsaw.]]
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* The look on [[BrokenBird Amanda's]] face as she lay on the floor, bleeding out at the end of ''Saw III,'' where the her absolute terror is clearly visible. [[spoiler: All because of Hoffman wanting wanted to take her out of the picture to so he could become the new Jigsaw.]]
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* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
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* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his daughter Diana in the first movie ''Saw I'' were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
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** Before they enter the trap, judging by the look on Brit's face when Mallick angrily asks her if she knew about the eight people living in the warehouse before she decided to have it burned down to take the property, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she seems to have realized the gravity of what she's done.]]
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** Before they enter the trap, judging by the look on Brit's face when Mallick angrily asks her if she knew about the eight people living in the warehouse before when she decided to have it burned down to take the property, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she seems to have realized the gravity of what she's done.]]
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have for them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have for them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.alive.
** Before they enter the trap, judging by the look on Brit's face when Mallick angrily asks her if she knew about the eight people living in the warehouse before she decided to have it burned down to take the property, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she seems to have realized the gravity of what she's done.]]
** Before they enter the trap, judging by the look on Brit's face when Mallick angrily asks her if she knew about the eight people living in the warehouse before she decided to have it burned down to take the property, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she seems to have realized the gravity of what she's done.]]
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* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
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* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have with them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have with for them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
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** Amanda's entire backstory. She was abused by her father as a child, was framed by Eric Matthews for a crime she didn't commit, sent to prison where she became addicted to heroin while inside, and was put in the Reverse Bear Trap for being part of the robbery at Jill's clinic where Gideon was accidentally killed. All this before she became an apprentice.
* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter withher.her.
* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have with them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
* A little one, but the last words Lawrence said to his Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with
* Although it may depend on how much sympathy you have with them, since they're both criminals who were part of a fire that killed eight people, Brit and Mallick in ''Saw V'' comforting each other before they go into the 10 Pints of Sacrifice Trap is pretty touching. They help each other tie their arms to cut off circulation, and Mallick desperately says that he can't do it alone, and Brit agrees that he's not going to. And after they both survive, she wakes up and very tiredly and softly tells them that they won and they're alive.
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of ''Saw I.'' Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits as John locks him away to starve, even though [[Shoottheshaggydog he technically survived his test.]]
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of ''Saw I.'' Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits as John locks him away to starve, even though [[Shoottheshaggydog [[ShootTheShaggyDog he technically survived his test.]]
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of ''Saw I.'' Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits as John locks him away to starve, even though [[KickTheShaggyDog he technically survived his test.]]
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of ''Saw I.'' Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits as John locks him away to starve, even though [[KickTheShaggyDog [[Shoottheshaggydog he technically survived his test.]]
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of the original. Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits.
* His last moments with Lawrence. A wounded Lawrence is desperately trying to calm down a hysterical, crying Adam, telling him he needs to get help and promising to bring someone back. Gripping each other and pressing their foreheads together, Adam begging and screaming for him to not leave.
* Amanda was by no means a great person, but her death at the end of ''Saw III'' is pretty painful to watch. Especially with her fear and pain visible on her face, and John reaching out to her with that look of utter sorrow.
* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually gets out of his restraints and leaves him to die.
* His last moments with Lawrence. A wounded Lawrence is desperately trying to calm down a hysterical, crying Adam, telling him he needs to get help and promising to bring someone back. Gripping each other and pressing their foreheads together, Adam begging and screaming for him to not leave.
* Amanda was by no means a great person, but her death at the end of ''Saw III'' is pretty painful to watch. Especially with her fear and pain visible on her face, and John reaching out to her with that look of utter sorrow.
* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually gets out of his restraints and leaves him to die.
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of the original. ''Saw I.'' Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits.
* Hiscredits as John locks him away to starve, even though [[KickTheShaggyDog he technically survived his test.]]
** The lastmoments with Lawrence. A wounded scene in general is absolutely heartbreaking. Adam has just brutally killed Zep to save Lawrence, and he immediately [[BleedEmAndWeep breaks down sobbing afterward,]] and Lawrence is desperately trying crawls across the floor, bleeding profusely, just to calm down a hysterical, crying Adam, telling him he needs to get help and promising to bring someone back. Gripping each other and pressing comfort him. They [[HeadButtOfLove press their foreheads together, together,]] and Lawrence hoarsely promises to get help for the two of them, but Adam grips onto him for dear life, [[PleaseDontLeaveMe begging and screaming for him to not leave.
leave.]] Right as Lawrence is about to crawl out, Adam tearfully asks if they're going to be okay, and Lawrence says that he wouldn't lie to him. It just shows how far they've come from the beginning of the film, where they were burdened with suspicions of each other, to the point where they trust each other with their lives.
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* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually getsout of his restraints and leaves him the picture to die.become the new Jigsaw.]]
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* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually gets
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* A little one, but the last words Gordon said to his daughter in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him, taking their daughter with her.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.
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* A little one, but the last words Gordon Lawrence said to his daughter Diana in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him, him due to his mental instability from his PTSD, taking their daughter with her.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.her.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.
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* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of the original. Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits.
* His last moments with Lawrence. A wounded Lawrence is desperately trying to calm down a hysterical, crying Adam, telling him he needs to get help and promising to bring someone back. Gripping each other and pressing their foreheads together, Adam begging and screaming for him to not leave.
* Amanda was by no means a great person, but her death at the end of ''Saw III'' is pretty painful to watch. Especially with her fear and pain visible on her face, and John reaching out to her with that look of utter sorrow.
* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually gets out of his restraints and leaves him to die.
* A little one, but the last words Gordon said to his daughter in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him, taking their daughter with her.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.
* One of the most depressing moments in the franchise is Adam being left to die in the bathroom at the end of the original. Just listen to his increasingly panicked screams over the end credits.
* His last moments with Lawrence. A wounded Lawrence is desperately trying to calm down a hysterical, crying Adam, telling him he needs to get help and promising to bring someone back. Gripping each other and pressing their foreheads together, Adam begging and screaming for him to not leave.
* Amanda was by no means a great person, but her death at the end of ''Saw III'' is pretty painful to watch. Especially with her fear and pain visible on her face, and John reaching out to her with that look of utter sorrow.
* The ending of ''Saw IV''. Matthews ends up fatally shooting Rigg to try and stop him from opening the door... and [[YourHeadAsplode ends up dying]] ''right in front of Rigg'', who is left confused, ranting, and slowly bleeding out... and then [[HiredToHuntYourself Hoffman]] casually gets out of his restraints and leaves him to die.
* A little one, but the last words Gordon said to his daughter in the first movie were him promising that he's not going to leave her. Come the seventh movie, it turns out that his wife left him, taking their daughter with her.
* From the second game, the collectable tapes telling the story behind David Tapp's suicide, including his faltering relationship with his son, Michael.
