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** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersi about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.
** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersi about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.
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* Theon's reaction when Robb tells him that he betrayed the North in the original timeline? Puking his guts out, and asking why Robb didn't kill him after waking up in the past.
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* TheReveal that [[spoiler: Edric Dayne is actually the bastard son of Eddard and Ashara Dayne, on many levels: his conception was a moment of grief between a drugged, drunk, sorrowful Eddard right after the events in Tower of Joy, and a grieving Ashara who had just lost Elia Martell and her brother Arthur; just like Jon, all of Edric's life that he knew up to that point was a lie; and just when Ned and Cat seemed to have got over Eddard's suspected infidelity by telling her the truth, this fact pops up that shows he ''did'' have a bastard after all, and he never knew about it and can never acknowledge it in public]].public.
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* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon is Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to, as the realm needed their king more than ever.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.
* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon is Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to, as the realm needed their king more than ever.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.
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* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.ever.
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* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.
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** Only gets worse later when he learns [[spoiler: the Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander before him, held Lyanna down so Rhaegar could rape her]]. Selmy is utterly shaken that people he knew, his ''friends'', could do something so horrible.
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* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.
* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.
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* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what Tyrion thinks of what's going on, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how it's been too long since he'd seen him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for their mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
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* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what Tyrion thinks of what's going on, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments how it's been too long since he'd seen him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for their mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
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* Mace Tyrell's death. [[KnowNothingKnowItAll For all his failings]], he was a good father to his four children, and in the end [[RedemptionEqualsDeath died after trying to save a Septon's life, accepting his folly of pride, and giving Willas critical information on how to deal with the entity behind the gate]].
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* Mace Tyrell's death. [[KnowNothingKnowItAll For all his failings]], he was a good father to his four children, and in the end [[RedemptionEqualsDeath died after trying to save a Septon's life, accepting his folly of pride, and giving Willas critical information on how to deal with the entity behind the gate]].gate]].
* Robert finally learns that [[spoiler:Lyanna bore a child by Rhaegar, and she was so afraid of Robert killing her baby she made Ned promise to hide him. Hearing he scared so much the love of his love and his best friend is a heavy blow to Robert.]]
* Robert finally learns that [[spoiler:Lyanna bore a child by Rhaegar, and she was so afraid of Robert killing her baby she made Ned promise to hide him. Hearing he scared so much the love of his love and his best friend is a heavy blow to Robert.]]
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* Jaime only did his Trial By Combat because he doesn't want to be free of the title "Kingslayer" on the Wall. When Robert utterly defeats him and he lies on the ground begging Robert to just kill him the Demon of the Trident delivers what might be his worst blow:
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--->'''Robert''': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself, and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. You'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example.
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* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, which means that by not speaking up about one of the few things he was proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, out of pure stubborness, has actually put the city at risk]].
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--->'''Robert''': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example
--->'''Robert''': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example
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--->'''Robert''': No. Gods, you can't even defendyourself yourself, and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll You'll go to the Wall. Learn from my exampleexample.
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--->''Robert'': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example
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* After so many earth-shattering revelations, Ser Barristan Selmy is very much in a funk, feeling he was nothing but a failed knight and not up to the task of rebuilding the Kingsguard.
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* Jaime only did his Trial By Combat because he doesn't want to be called The Kingslayer on the wall. He wants to be finally free of the title. When Robert utterly defeats him and he prostrate on the ground begging Robert to just kill him the Demon of the Trident delivers what might be his worst blow
--->''Robert'': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example
* Jaime only did his Trial By Combat because he doesn't want to be called The Kingslayer on the wall. He wants to be finally free of the title. When Robert utterly defeats him and he prostrate on the ground begging Robert to just kill him the Demon of the Trident delivers what might be his worst blow
--->''Robert'': No. Gods, you can't even defend yourself and I'll not kill such a man, despite what you've done. No. You'll go to the Wall. You'll defend us all. And no more smirking. We need you, [[NeverLiveItDown Kingslayer]]. And I keep my word. you'll go to the Wall. Learn from my example
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* After saving Daenerys from discovery by the Company of the Rose, Jorah chews her out for showing herself to Northerners. When she expresses confusion about the reason why they would want to harm her, he realizes she doesn't know anything about Robert's Rebellion and has to spell out for the poor girl why [[TheCaligula her father]] was called "the Mad King".
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* After saving Daenerys from discovery by the Company of the Rose, Jorah chews her out for showing herself to Northerners. When she expresses confusion about the reason why they would want to harm her, he realizes she doesn't know anything about Robert's Rebellion and [[AwfulTruth has to spell out out]] for the poor girl why [[TheCaligula her father]] was called "the Mad King".
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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, him, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or not, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]
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* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, which means that by not speaking up about one of the few things he was proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, out of pure stubborness, has actually put the city at risk]].risk]].
* After so many earth-shattering revelations, Ser Barristan Selmy is very much in a funk, feeling he was nothing but a failed knight and not up to the task of rebuilding the Kingsguard.
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* When he realizes Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen are not his children, Robert does not become angry: he becomes disappointed, because he had finally realized there was so much good in the latter two only to find out it's not because of him.
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* When he realizes Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen are not his children, Robert does not become angry: he becomes disappointed, because he had finally realized there was so much good in the latter two only to find out it's not because of him.him.
* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, and one of the few things he had to be proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, has actually put the city at risk]].
* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, and one of the few things he had to be proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, has actually put the city at risk]].
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* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what Tyrion thinks of what's going on, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how it's been too long since he'd seen him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for their mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
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* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what Tyrion thinks of what's going on, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how it's been too long since he'd seen him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for their mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].fault]].
* When he realizes Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen are not his children, Robert does not become angry: he becomes disappointed, because he had finally realized there was so much good in the latter two only to find out it's not because of him.
* When he realizes Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen are not his children, Robert does not become angry: he becomes disappointed, because he had finally realized there was so much good in the latter two only to find out it's not because of him.
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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]
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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, not, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]
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* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what Tyrion thinks of what's going on, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how it's been too long since he'd seen him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for their mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
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* After Gendry fixed his stirrup, Tommen is left wondering why the older boy couldn't be his brother instead of Joffrey. That's even more painful in light of Tommen not actually being Robert's child.
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* After Gendry fixed his stirrup, Tommen is left wondering why the older boy couldn't be his brother instead of Joffrey. That's even more painful in light of Tommen not actually being Robert's child.child.
%%* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what his brother is doing, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how much he misses him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for his mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
%%* For all of his faults, his snarking, and his arrogance, there's something extremely sad about Jaime thinking about how little control he has over his life, trying to think of the last time he had truly been in control of his fate, or actually done something for himself, rather than due to the wishes of others. It helps that at the same time he's wondering what his brother is doing, and thinking about [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming how much he misses him]], and how [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming he doesn't understand why Tywin and Cersei blame him for his mother's death, making it clear that he knows it wasn't his fault]].
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* After nearly five hundred years roaming the Lands Beyond The Wall, Coldhands a.k.a. Rickon Stark finally gets to cross the Black Gate and cast the spell that will fix the Wall's enchantments, thus fulfilling his mission and allowing him to die in peace, his last task done.
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* After nearly five hundred years roaming the Lands Beyond The Wall, Coldhands a.k.a. Rickon Stark finally gets to cross the Black Gate and cast the spell that will fix the Wall's enchantments, thus fulfilling his mission and allowing him to die in peace, his last task done.done.
* After Gendry fixed his stirrup, Tommen is left wondering why the older boy couldn't be his brother instead of Joffrey. That's even more painful in light of Tommen not actually being Robert's child.
* After Gendry fixed his stirrup, Tommen is left wondering why the older boy couldn't be his brother instead of Joffrey. That's even more painful in light of Tommen not actually being Robert's child.
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* After reuniting with his nephew Tyrion in Chapter 102, Gerion confesses he disappeared because he fell in love with a lowborn Summer Islander woman, and he knew his brother would never have accepted it. Tyrion sadly concedes it was the safer option.
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%%* After nearly five hundred years roaming the Lands Beyond The Wall, Coldhands a.k.a. Rickon Stark finally gets to cross the Black Gate and cast the spell that will fix the Wall's enchantments, thus fulfilling his mission and allowing him to die in peace, his last task done.
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** In Chapter 70, [[BrokenPedestal she learns that it was all true.]]
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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]
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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]]]
* After reuniting with his nephew Tyrion in Chapter 102, Gerion confesses he disappeared because he fell in love with a lowborn Summer Islander woman, and he knew his brother would never have accepted it. Tyrion sadly concedes it was the safer option.
* After reuniting with his nephew Tyrion in Chapter 102, Gerion confesses he disappeared because he fell in love with a lowborn Summer Islander woman, and he knew his brother would never have accepted it. Tyrion sadly concedes it was the safer option.
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* The very first chapter, in Ned's point-of-view. Because the Lord Stark - the whole Stark family - just can't understand ''why'' Robb was so distressed and acted so strangely one morning after waking up, and now he's so different he's almost a stranger for them.
* [[spoiler: Jon's entire ''life'' crashes around his ears when Ned tells him he's his ''nephew'', half a Targaryen and the ''Mad King's'' grandson.]]
* Theon's reaction when Robb tells him that he betrayed the North in the original timeline? Puking his guts out, and asking why Robb didn't kill him after waking up in the past.
** Before that, Theon is utterly baffled by Robb's hostile and cold demeanor towards him. Of course Robb is justified in his desire to avoid the man responsible for sacking Winterfell and murdering his younger brothers, but Theon hasn't done it ''yet''. Meaning his closest friend suddenly treats him as some diseased vermin and [[BewilderingPunishment he doesn't get why]].
* After saving Daenerys from discovery by the Company of the Rose, Jorah chews her out for showing herself to Northerners. When she expresses confusion about the reason why they would want to harm her, he realizes she doesn't know anything about Robert's Rebellion and has to spell out for the poor girl why [[TheCaligula her father]] was called "the Mad King".
* [[spoiler:Lord Alster Dayne's death]] in Chapter 48.
* Maester Aemon's rant in Chapter 69 about how useless he feels because of his blindness and age.
* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]
* [[spoiler: Jon's entire ''life'' crashes around his ears when Ned tells him he's his ''nephew'', half a Targaryen and the ''Mad King's'' grandson.]]
* Theon's reaction when Robb tells him that he betrayed the North in the original timeline? Puking his guts out, and asking why Robb didn't kill him after waking up in the past.
** Before that, Theon is utterly baffled by Robb's hostile and cold demeanor towards him. Of course Robb is justified in his desire to avoid the man responsible for sacking Winterfell and murdering his younger brothers, but Theon hasn't done it ''yet''. Meaning his closest friend suddenly treats him as some diseased vermin and [[BewilderingPunishment he doesn't get why]].
* After saving Daenerys from discovery by the Company of the Rose, Jorah chews her out for showing herself to Northerners. When she expresses confusion about the reason why they would want to harm her, he realizes she doesn't know anything about Robert's Rebellion and has to spell out for the poor girl why [[TheCaligula her father]] was called "the Mad King".
* [[spoiler:Lord Alster Dayne's death]] in Chapter 48.
* Maester Aemon's rant in Chapter 69 about how useless he feels because of his blindness and age.
* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him and his family, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or no, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]