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* Ser Duncan relating the tragedy of Summerhall, and the sorrow he felt when his friend and liege Aegon the Unlikely ordered Duncan to leave him behind in the flames with his dead son.

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* Ser Duncan relating the tragedy of Summerhall, and the sorrow he felt when his friend and liege Aegon the Unlikely ordered Duncan to leave him behind in the flames with his dead son.son.
* Varys having to kill Jon Connington and Aegon, which he had to because they would have been too obstinate and unwilling to face the reality of the Call. It is also revealed that both Connington and Varys knew that Aegon was not a Targaryen, which means both men lied to a kid who probably barely even realized everything that was tied down to that name.


* Daenerys hears of the wildfire plot and rocked to finally understand just how twisted and insane her father was. Also, how her brother must have known of this and had a hand in it.

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* Daenerys hears of the wildfire plot and rocked to finally understand just how twisted and insane her father was. Also, how her brother must have known of this and had a hand in it.it.
* Ser Duncan relating the tragedy of Summerhall, and the sorrow he felt when his friend and liege Aegon the Unlikely ordered Duncan to leave him behind in the flames with his dead son.


** Tywin makes it clear that pretty much the only reason he doesn't kill Cersei himself is because he doesn't want to disgrace the Lannister name any more than she already has by slaying his own daughter. He flatly tells her that she is an utter disgrace and washes his hands of her before leaving her in her cell.

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** Tywin makes it clear that pretty much the only reason he doesn't kill Cersei himself is because he doesn't want to disgrace the Lannister name any more than she already has by slaying his own daughter. He flatly tells her that she is an utter disgrace and washes his hands of her before leaving her in her cell.cell.
* Daenerys hears of the wildfire plot and rocked to finally understand just how twisted and insane her father was. Also, how her brother must have known of this and had a hand in it.


** Made worse when Tywin [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spells out to Cersei about how much she's screwed up]]. He mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness/instability (Tommen, though nice, is a bit cat-crazy), and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now, that promising future is gone, [[WiseBeyondTheirYears she's completely aware of it]], Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Grandfather Tywin has promised to be kind to her. Tywin even says that even he wanted to weep at that.

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** Made worse when Tywin [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spells out to Cersei about how much she's screwed up]]. He mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness/instability (Tommen, though nice, is a bit cat-crazy), and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now, that promising future is gone, [[WiseBeyondTheirYears she's completely aware of it]], Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Grandfather Tywin has promised to her future husband would be kind to her. Tywin even says that even he wanted to weep at that.


** During his rant, Tywin states that, for the first time in his life, he's almost grateful his wife is dead because knowing what her twins were doing would have broken her heart.

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** During his rant, Tywin states that, for the first time in his life, he's almost grateful his wife is dead because knowing what her twins were doing would have broken her heart.heart.
** Tywin makes it clear that pretty much the only reason he doesn't kill Cersei himself is because he doesn't want to disgrace the Lannister name any more than she already has by slaying his own daughter. He flatly tells her that she is an utter disgrace and washes his hands of her before leaving her in her cell.


** Made worse when Tywin [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spells out to Cersei about how much she's screwed up]]. He mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness/instability (Tommen, though nice, is a bit cat-crazy), and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now, that promising future is gone, [[WiseBeyondTheirYears she's completely aware of it]], Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Grandfather Tywin has promised to be kind to her. Tywin even says that even he wanted to weep at that.

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** Made worse when Tywin [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spells out to Cersei about how much she's screwed up]]. He mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness/instability (Tommen, though nice, is a bit cat-crazy), and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now, that promising future is gone, [[WiseBeyondTheirYears she's completely aware of it]], Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Grandfather Tywin has promised to be kind to her. Tywin even says that even he wanted to weep at that.that.
** During his rant, Tywin states that, for the first time in his life, he's almost grateful his wife is dead because knowing what her twins were doing would have broken her heart.


** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersei about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.

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** Made worse when Tywin talks [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spells out to Cersei about how much she's screwed up, he up]]. He mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, madness/instability (Tommen, though nice, is a bit cat-crazy), and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now now, that promising future is gone, [[WiseBeyondTheirYears she's completely aware of it, it]], Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Grandfather Tywin will has promised to be kind to her.her. Tywin even says that even he wanted to weep at that.


** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersi about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.

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** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersi Cersei about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, Tywin can ''tell'' she's aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.


* Myrcella's internal despair at how her life's been ruined by the reveal that she's a bastard.

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* Myrcella's internal despair at how her life's been ruined by the reveal that she's a bastard.bastard.
** Made worse when Tywin talks to Cersi about how much she's screwed up, he mentions that Myrcella is the only one of her children to escape the taint of madness[=/=]instability, and he talks about how promising she was, how intelligent and practical she is, how the heirs of the great houses would be clambering over each other for the honour of marrying her, how she had a good chance of marrying [[TheAce Robb Stark]]... and now that promising future is gone, she's completely aware of it, and the only good thing she has left is that Tywin will be kind to her.


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* [[spoiler: Jon's entire ''life'' crashes around his ears when Ned tells him he's his ''nephew'', half a Targaryen and the ''Mad King's'' grandson.]]
* Theon's reaction when Robb tells him that he betrayed the North in the original timeline? Puking his guts out, and asking why Robb didn't kill him after waking up in the past.

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* [[spoiler: Jon's entire ''life'' crashes around his ears when Ned tells him he's his ''nephew'', half a Targaryen and the ''Mad King's'' grandson.]]
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* Theon's reaction when Robb tells him that he betrayed the North in the original timeline? [[StressVomit Puking his guts out, out]], and asking why Robb didn't kill him after waking up in the past.



* [[spoiler:Lord Alster Dayne's death]] in Chapter 48.

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* [[spoiler:Lord Lord Alster Dayne's death]] death in Chapter 48.



* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or not, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]

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* [[spoiler:Rhaegar's Rhaegar's second and last meeting with the Green Man, who he realises with horror is the former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Duncan the Tall. By this point, whatever pride and arrogance he swaggered in with is gone - [[MoralEventHorizon he's abducted and raped Lyanna,]] his father has killed two Starks and several of their bannermen and friends and set alight a civil war, [[AllForNothing and he's confronted with the fact that he's both a failure of a prince and king,]] and if he does nothing less than let Robert Baratheon kill him, all of Westeros will be in disarray, which is exactly what he ''didn't'' want. Deserved or not, Rhaegar's final fate is to march out, meet Robert on the battlefield, and FaceDeathWithDignity, [[DeathEqualsRedemption in an effort to salvage something from the mess he made,]] all for a prophecy he and many others before him had misunderstood.]]



* TheReveal that [[spoiler: Edric Dayne is actually the bastard son of Eddard and Ashara Dayne, on many levels: his conception was a moment of grief between a drugged, drunk, sorrowful Eddard right after the events in Tower of Joy, and a grieving Ashara who had just lost Elia Martell and her brother Arthur; just like Jon, all of Edric's life that he knew up to that point was a lie; and just when Ned and Cat seemed to have got over Eddard's suspected infidelity by telling her the truth, this fact pops up that shows he ''did'' have a bastard after all, and he never knew about it and can never acknowledge it in public]].

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* TheReveal that [[spoiler: Edric Dayne is actually the bastard son of Eddard and Ashara Dayne, on many levels: his conception was a moment of grief between a drugged, drunk, sorrowful Eddard right after the events in Tower of Joy, and a grieving Ashara who had just lost Elia Martell and her brother Arthur; just like Jon, all of Edric's life that he knew up to that point was a lie; and just when Ned and Cat seemed to have got over Eddard's suspected infidelity by telling her the truth, this fact pops up that shows he ''did'' have a bastard after all, and he never knew about it and can never acknowledge it in public]].public.



* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, which means that by not speaking up about one of the few things he was proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, out of pure stubborness, he has actually put the city at greater risk]].

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* Despite what he's done, it's still sad to see Jaime discover that [[spoiler: he was wrong about wildfire degrading over time, which means that by not speaking up about one of the few things he was proud of, saving King's Landing from Aerys, out of pure stubborness, stubbornness, he has actually put the city at greater risk]].risk.



%%** Only gets worse later when he learns [[spoiler: the Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander before him, held Lyanna down so Rhaegar could rape her]]. Selmy is utterly shaken that people he knew, his ''friends'', could do something so horrible.

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%%** ** Only gets worse later when he learns [[spoiler: that the Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander before him, held Lyanna down so Rhaegar could rape her]]. her. Selmy is utterly shaken that people he knew, his ''friends'', [[BrokenPedestal could do something so horrible. horrible]], and given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he is obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.



* Robert finally learns that [[spoiler:Lyanna bore a child by Rhaegar, and she was so afraid of Robert killing her baby she made Ned promise to hide him. Hearing that he scared the love of his life and his best friend so much is a heavy blow to Robert.]]
* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon is Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to, as the realm needed their king more than ever.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.

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* Robert finally learns that [[spoiler:Lyanna Lyanna bore a child by Rhaegar, and she was so afraid of Robert killing her baby she made Ned promise to hide him. Hearing that he scared the love of his life and his best friend so much is [[HeelRealization a heavy blow to Robert.]]
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* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon is Lyanna's son]] son, Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to, as the realm needed their king more than ever.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.
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* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.

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* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.influence.
* Myrcella's internal despair at how her life's been ruined by the reveal that she's a bastard.


** And later, Alerie and Olenna arrive to pay their respects to their husband and son.



%%* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.

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%%* * When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was is Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.to, as the realm needed their king more than ever.


%%* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.

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%%* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.to.
* Barristan Selmy learning that Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, and Gerold Hightower directly aided Rhaegar in raping Lyanna by holding her down. Given how he dislikes the current Kingsguard and has been assigned to rebuild it, he was obviously greatly distressed to learn the order had been in shambles long before Cersei's influence.


** Only gets worse later when he learns [[spoiler: the Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander before him, held Lyanna down so Rhaegar could rape her]]. Selmy is utterly shaken that people he knew, his ''friends'', could do something so horrible.

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** %%** Only gets worse later when he learns [[spoiler: the Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander before him, held Lyanna down so Rhaegar could rape her]]. Selmy is utterly shaken that people he knew, his ''friends'', could do something so horrible.


* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.

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* %%* When discussing [[spoiler: Robert knowing that Jon was Lyanna's son]] Ned brings up the death of Elia's children. Robert admits that he had been terrified of being king and when Tywin showed him the bodies he knew he had to be strong... so he laughed. Only when he saw how mad Ned was and disappointed Jon was he knew he'd made a mistake. After Ned left Robert wanted to just sit down and sob and then tried to follow after to save Lyanna but Jon convinced him not to.

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