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* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated that Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that [[TheBadGuyWins Hemlock is still out there and that he got him]].

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* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated that Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that [[TheBadGuyWins Hemlock is still out there and that he got him]].him]].
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* Cedric Maplethorpe, [[LastOfHisKind the last living member of the Maplethorpe family]] and his family as a whole. Tragedy just seemed to follow the man left and right for most of his life and almost everything that could have gone wrong with him did. Thirty-seven years prior to the game's events, Cedric once had a twin brother by the name of Ronald Maplethrope. For Cedric's and Ronald's early days on the Maplethorpe farm (which is now known as the Maplethorpe Hotel), all was quite well and they would spend most of their days playing in the old nursery room (the same room in which the sealed off Room 106 is in). One day, Ronald was accidentally shot between the eyes by his own grandfather, Thomas Maplethorpe, who was rumored to be the ghost of the hotel. Thomas proceeded to spend the rest of his days begging for forgiveness for what happened to Ronald, but after the slaying of Ronald, the family cut off all ties from the man. Out of guilt for what happened to Ronald, he decided to [[DrivenToSuicide take himself out with the very same flintlock pistol that claimed Ronald's life.]] Sad to say, that wasn't the end of Cedric's troubles. It seems tragedy followed him ''even onto his adult years''. When James, his other brother, passed away due to unknown circumstances, Cedric had no means of affording a proper tomb for James. For that reason, Cedric decided to get himself into dealing with Aculeus in order to make enough money for a proper tomb. Unfortunately, someone by the name of Victor Barrows was trying to dig up dirt on Maplethorpe and his employer by the request of James Trent. In a desperate struggle to silence Vic, he winds up accidentally killing his own coworker, Stan Nyph, and he let Maris Rubin take the fall for his own actions like a coward. Cedric is the kind of man who would rather run away from his problems, and he's been keeping stuff like this bottled up for so many long years, that the stress has more than likely done damage to not only physically and mentally, but psychologically as well. For thirty-seven years, he's blamed himself for not being able to stop the death of his twin brother and always believed that his grandfather was punishing him from beyond the grave because the man's family never forgave him. It especially showed during his [[VillainousBreakdown rather loquacious meltdown]]. Although he confesses his long since bottled pain, anger, and despair in court, Cedric would have rather died than elaborate on whom or what it is that he worked for, and he knew that [[DeadManWalking he'd be a dead man the moment that he confessed his sins]]. If Cedric confessed, the odds are highly likely that his employer would have slain Maris before slaying him, just to spite him. Later, in ''Turnabout of The Snow'', Cedric winds up being strangled via garrote wire, and by the same person that he worked for. Cedric basically lived his life suffering, but at least he doesn't have to suffer, anymore. With the man's death, however, the Maplethorpes are now [[GoneForever no more]].

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* Cedric Maplethorpe, [[LastOfHisKind the last living member of the Maplethorpe family]] and his family as a whole. Tragedy just seemed to follow the man left and right for most of his life and almost everything that could have gone wrong with him did. Thirty-seven years prior to the game's events, Cedric once had a twin brother by the name of Ronald Maplethrope. For Cedric's and Ronald's early days on the Maplethorpe farm (which is now known as the Maplethorpe Hotel), all was quite well and they would spend most of their days playing in the old nursery room (the same room in which the sealed off Room 106 is in). One day, Ronald was accidentally shot between the eyes by his own grandfather, Thomas Maplethorpe, who was rumored to be the ghost of the hotel. Thomas proceeded to spend the rest of his days begging for forgiveness for what happened to Ronald, but after the slaying of Ronald, the family cut off all ties from the man. Out of guilt for what happened to Ronald, he decided to [[DrivenToSuicide take himself out with the very same flintlock pistol that claimed Ronald's life.]] Sad to say, that wasn't the end of Cedric's troubles. It seems tragedy followed him ''even onto his adult years''. When James, his other brother, passed away due to unknown circumstances, Cedric had no means of affording a proper tomb for James. For that reason, Cedric decided to get himself into dealing with Aculeus in order to make enough money for a proper tomb. Unfortunately, someone by the name of Victor Barrows was trying to dig up dirt on Maplethorpe and his employer by the request of James Trent. In a desperate struggle to silence Vic, he winds up accidentally killing his own coworker, Stan Nyph, and he let Maris Rubin take the fall for his own actions like a coward. Cedric is the kind of man who would rather run away from his problems, and he's been keeping stuff like this bottled up for so many long years, that the stress has more than likely done damage to not only physically and mentally, but psychologically as well. For thirty-seven years, he's blamed himself for not being able to stop the death of his twin brother and always believed that his grandfather was punishing him from beyond the grave because the man's family never forgave him. It especially showed during his [[VillainousBreakdown rather loquacious meltdown]]. Although he confesses his long since bottled pain, anger, and despair in court, Cedric would have rather died than elaborate on whom or what it is that he worked for, and he knew that [[DeadManWalking he'd be a dead man the moment that he confessed his sins]]. If Cedric confessed, the odds are highly likely that his employer would have slain Maris before slaying him, just to spite him. Later, in ''Turnabout of The Snow'', Cedric winds up being strangled via garrote wire, and by the same person that he worked for. Cedric basically lived his life suffering, but at least he doesn't have to suffer, anymore. With the man's death, however, the Maplethorpes are now [[GoneForever no more]].more.
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* Cedric Maplethorpe, [[LastOfHisKind the last living member of the Maplethorpe family]] and his family as a whole. Tragedy just seemed to follow the man left and right for most of his life and almost everything that could have gone wrong with him did. Thirty-seven years prior to the game's events, Cedric once had a twin brother by the name of Ronald Maplethrope. For Cedric's and Ronald's early days on the Maplethorpe farm (which is now known as the Maplethorpe Hotel), all was quite well and they would spend most of their days playing in the old nursery room (the same room in which the sealed off Room 106 is in). One day, Ronald was accidentally shot between the eyes by his own grandfather, Thomas Maplethorpe, who was rumored to be the ghost of the hotel. Thomas proceeded to spend the rest of his days begging for forgiveness for what happened to Ronald, but after the slaying of Ronald, the family cut off all ties from the man. Out of guilt for what happened to Ronald, he decided to [[DrivenToSuicide take himself out with the very same flintlock pistol that claimed Ronald's life.]] Sad to say, that wasn't the end of Cedric's troubles. It seems tragedy followed him ''even onto his adult years''. When James, his other brother, passed away due to unknown circumstances, Cedric had no means of affording a proper tomb for James. For that reason, Cedric decided to get himself into dealing with Aculeus in order to make enough money for a proper tomb. Unfortunately, someone by the name of Victor Barrows was trying to dig up dirt on Maplethorpe and his employer by the request of James Trent. In a desperate struggle to silence Vic, he winds up accidentally killing his own coworker, Stan Nyph, and he let Maris Rubin take the fall for his own actions like a coward. Cedric is the kind of man who would rather run away from his problems, and he's been keeping stuff like this bottled up for so many long years, that the stress has more than likely done damage to not only physically and mentally, but psychologically as well. For thirty-seven years, he's blamed himself for not being able to stop the death of his twin brother and always believed that his grandfather was punishing him from beyond the grave because the man's family never forgave him. It especially showed during his [[VillainousBreakdown rather loquacious meltdown]]. Although he confesses his long since bottled pain, anger, and despair in court, Cedric would have rather died than elaborate on whom or what it is that he worked for, and he knew that [[DeadManWalking he'd be a dead man the moment that he confessed his sins]]. If Cedric confessed, the odds are highly likely that his employer would have slain Maris before slaying him, just to spite him. Later, in ''Turnabout of The Snow'', Cedric winds up being strangled via garrote wire, and by the same person that he worked for. Cedric basically lived his life suffering, but at least he doesn't have to suffer, anymore. With the man's death, however, the Maplethorpes are now [[GoneForever no more]].
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** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. It's clear that Smith [[Jerkass isn't a nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments on how the two often see each other and how good they get along.

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** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. It's clear that Smith [[Jerkass [[{{Jerkass}} isn't a nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments on how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
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* [[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), his brother rats him out to [[{{Blackmail}} Redd White]], who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course]], and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[MacGuffin enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[YankTheDogsChain or, rather, Brisbane]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother? No. Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] by Hemlock in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows]], or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]].

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* [[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy [[TheSyndicate Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), his brother rats him out to [[{{Blackmail}} Redd White]], who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course]], and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[MacGuffin enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[YankTheDogsChain or, rather, Brisbane]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother? No. Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] by Hemlock in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows]], or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]].



* This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to the plate is Terry Greisen aka. James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which led to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is also what led to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only led to his partner Victor Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and he finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping no other innocent person would be killed.

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* This game is very good with having tragic backstories backstories, and the next up to the plate is Terry Greisen aka. James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and eager: Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being was really killed by the hands of Helmock. Hemlock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock.Hemlock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which led to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is also what led to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can to throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only led to his partner Victor Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually really being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and he finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took It takes a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock Hemlock hoping no other innocent person would be killed.



* It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. It's reveled that after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has to witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note that while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.
** To go further into this, Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor did he steal the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.
** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[{{Jerkass}} nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments on how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hellbent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].

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* It's In case 4, you finally about time get to hear what what's happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. It's reveled revealed that after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock Hemlock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived relieved to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad intense guilt over the fact that he has to witness all of these crimes the murders firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really ''really'' gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was is nearly assaulted to death killed by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, this - witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Hemlock's tracks - Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended Hemlock ends up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note that while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's Hemlock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.
** To go further into this, Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor did he steal the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock Hemlock but that means if Helmock Hemlock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.
** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it It's clear that he Smith [[Jerkass isn't a [[{{Jerkass}} nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments on how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that Helmock Hemlock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hellbent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].



* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated that Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.

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* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated that Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) [[TheBadGuyWins Hemlock is still out there and that he got him.him]].
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** To make it all the more tragic, James and Sarah actually had plans for the future together once they apprehended Hemlock. They'd likely settle down and start a family, retire and grow old together until the end of their days. Hemlock basically took all that away from James once he murdered Sarah in cold blood. Of course, when Hemlock had the nerve to not only rub Sarah's death in James's face, but [[InsaneTrollLogic claim that her dying was all her fault because she]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch stuck her nose in business she shouldn't have]], is it any wonder why he's so outraged?

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** To make it all the more tragic, James and Sarah actually had plans for the future together once they apprehended Hemlock. They'd likely settle down and start a family, retire and grow old together until the end of their days. Hemlock basically took all that away from James once he murdered Sarah in cold blood. Of course, when Hemlock had the nerve to not only rub Sarah's death in James's face, but [[InsaneTrollLogic claim that her dying was all her and James's fault because she]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch stuck her nose in business she shouldn't have]], is it any wonder why he's so outraged?
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** To make it all the more tragic, James and Sarah actually had plans for the future together once they apprehended Hemlock. They'd likely settle down and start a family, retire and grow old together until the end of their days. Hemlock basically took all that away from James once he murdered Sarah in cold blood. Of course, when Hemlock had the nerve to not only rub Sarah's death in James's face, but [[InsaneTrollLogic claim that her dying was all her fault because she]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch stuck her nose in business she shouldn't have]], is it any wonder why he's so outraged?

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This game definitely has some of the most sympathetic characters...

* Hearing that Marvin Grossberg had been murdered would certainly upset and unsettle an Ace Attorney fan.

* [[JerkassWoobie Brisbane's]] story. [[spoiler:For the first 25 years of his life, he's a ShrinkingViolet, most likely intimidated and bullied a lot. Then, [[ThatOneCase his best friend is mysteriously murdered in front of his eyes]], and [[TheScapegoat he is framed]]. His [[CrusadingLawyer attorney]] manages to acquit him and discover his friend's true murderer, but they're not done trying to screw up his life - as a parting gift, they throw the murder weapon at him before being dragged off, resulting in the [[EyeScream loss of an eye]]]]. No wonder he [[HairTriggerTemper turned]] [[AmoralAttorney out]] [[JerkAss so]] [[ScaryBlackMan rough]].
* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), his brother rats him out to [[BlackMail Redd White]], who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course]], and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[MacGuffin enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[YankTheDogsChain or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows]], or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].
* Just about everything about poor Maris Rubin. The girl wants nothing more to please her customers and cannot bring herself to make a mistake in front of them. When she cut her hand badily on the rail as she was delivering coffee, she hid the cut under some gloves because she was worried about upsetting the customer. Unfortunately for her, [[spoiler: the client ended up being the extremely paranoid Stan Nyph who took her wearing gloves the wrong way thinking she has poisoned his coffee and pointed a loaded gun at her. Maris understandably was frightened and managed to get the gun from him but suddenly a very loud gunshot was heard and Nyph was dead. Maris then stated she saw a "ghost" and later even believed she shot Nyph. It was at that point that no one not even Maris herself believe she was innocent. It was a good thing Phoenix was there to get to the bottom of it as always.]]
* This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to plate is Terry Greisen [[spoiler: aka James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which left to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is what lead to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only lead to Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping other innocent person would be killed.]]
* It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. [[spoiler: It's reveled after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has it witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.]]
** To go further into this, [[spoiler: Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor he stole the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.]]
** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[JerkAss nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that [[spoiler: Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hell bent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].]]

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* Hearing that Marvin Grossberg had been murdered would certainly upset and unsettle an Ace Attorney ''Ace Attorney'' fan.

* [[JerkassWoobie Brisbane's]] story. [[spoiler:For For the first 25 years of his life, he's a ShrinkingViolet, most likely intimidated and bullied a lot. Then, [[ThatOneCase his best friend is mysteriously murdered in front of his eyes]], and [[TheScapegoat he is framed]]. His [[CrusadingLawyer attorney]] manages to acquit him and discover his friend's true murderer, but they're not done trying to screw up his life - as a parting gift, they throw the murder weapon at him before being dragged off, resulting in the [[EyeScream loss of an eye]]]].eye]]. No wonder he [[HairTriggerTemper turned]] [[AmoralAttorney out]] [[JerkAss so]] [[ScaryBlackMan rough]].
* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy [[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] per's]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), his brother rats him out to [[BlackMail [[{{Blackmail}} Redd White]], who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course]], and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. it. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[MacGuffin enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[YankTheDogsChain or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. Brisbane]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? step-brother? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. justice]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) Hemlock in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows]], or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].
night]].
* Just about everything about poor Maris Rubin. The girl wants nothing more than to please her customers and cannot bring herself to make a mistake in front of them. When she cut her hand badily badly on the rail of the Maplethorpe Hotel's stairway as she was delivering coffee, she hid the cut under some gloves because she was worried about upsetting the customer. Unfortunately for her, [[spoiler: the client ended up being the extremely paranoid Stan Nyph who took her wearing gloves the wrong way thinking she has had poisoned his coffee and pointed a loaded gun at her. Maris understandably was frightened and managed to get the gun from him but suddenly a very loud gunshot was heard and Nyph was dead. Maris then stated she saw a "ghost" and later even believed she shot Nyph. It was at that point that no one one, not even Maris herself believe herself, believes she was innocent. It was a good thing Phoenix was there to get to the bottom of it as always.]]
always.
* This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to the plate is Terry Greisen [[spoiler: aka aka. James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which left led to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is also what lead led to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only lead led to his partner Victor Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and he finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping no other innocent person would be killed.]]
killed.
* It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. [[spoiler: It's reveled that after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has it to witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note that while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.]]
one.
** To go further into this, [[spoiler: Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor did he stole steal the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.]]
well.
** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[JerkAss [[{{Jerkass}} nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments on how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that [[spoiler: Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hell bent hellbent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].]]



* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. [[spoiler: Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated the Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.]]

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* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. [[spoiler: Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated the that Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.]]
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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].

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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself his brother rats him out to [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, White]], who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] course]], and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum [[MacGuffin enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice [[YankTheDogsChain or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] gallows]], or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].
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* Just about everything about poor Maris Rubin. The girl wants nothing more to please her customers and cannot bring herself to make a mistake in front of them. When she cut her hand badily on the rail as she was delivering coffee, she hid the cut under some gloves because she was worried about upsetting the customer. Unfortunately for her, [[spoiler: the client ended up being the extremely paranoid Stan Nyph who took her wearing gloves the wrong way thinking she has poisoned his coffee and pointed a loaded gun at her. Maris understandably was frightened and managed to get the gun from him but suddenly a very loud gunshot was heard and Nyph was dead. Maris then stated she saw a "ghost" and later even believed she shot Nyph. It was at that point that no one not even Maris herself believe she was innocent. It was a good thing Phoenix was there to get to the bottom of it as always.]]
* This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to plate is Terry Greisen [[spoiler: aka James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which left to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is what lead to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only lead to Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping other innocent person would be killed.]]
* It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. [[spoiler: It's reveled after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has it witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.]]
** To go further into this, [[spoiler: Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor he stole the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.]]
** And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[JerkAss nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that [[spoiler: Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hell bent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].]]
* To follow up on that, Morag Weever may seem like a strict person, but she genuinely is touched on how Brisbane and Smith get along and she really doesn't want to believe that Smith tried to kill him. She only stated what she saw in court and even looked saddened from all of that.
* The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. [[spoiler: Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated the Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.]]

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* Just *Just about everything about poor Maris Rubin. The girl wants nothing more to please her customers and cannot bring herself to make a mistake in front of them. When she cut her hand badily on the rail as she was delivering coffee, she hid the cut under some gloves because she was worried about upsetting the customer. Unfortunately for her, [[spoiler: the client ended up being the extremely paranoid Stan Nyph who took her wearing gloves the wrong way thinking she has poisoned his coffee and pointed a loaded gun at her. Maris understandably was frightened and managed to get the gun from him but suddenly a very loud gunshot was heard and Nyph was dead. Maris then stated she saw a "ghost" and later even believed she shot Nyph. It was at that point that no one not even Maris herself believe she was innocent. It was a good thing Phoenix was there to get to the bottom of it as always.]]
* This *This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to plate is Terry Greisen [[spoiler: aka James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which left to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is what lead to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only lead to Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping other innocent person would be killed.]]
* It's *It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. [[spoiler: It's reveled after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has it witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.]]
** To **To go further into this, [[spoiler: Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor he stole the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.]]
** And **And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[JerkAss nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
** Hell, **Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that [[spoiler: Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hell bent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].]]
* To *To follow up on that, Morag Weever may seem like a strict person, but she genuinely is touched on how Brisbane and Smith get along and she really doesn't want to believe that Smith tried to kill him. She only stated what she saw in court and even looked saddened from all of that.
* The *The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. [[spoiler: Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated the Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.]]

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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].

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\n* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] or simply let [[TheDreaded the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].night]]]].
*Just about everything about poor Maris Rubin. The girl wants nothing more to please her customers and cannot bring herself to make a mistake in front of them. When she cut her hand badily on the rail as she was delivering coffee, she hid the cut under some gloves because she was worried about upsetting the customer. Unfortunately for her, [[spoiler: the client ended up being the extremely paranoid Stan Nyph who took her wearing gloves the wrong way thinking she has poisoned his coffee and pointed a loaded gun at her. Maris understandably was frightened and managed to get the gun from him but suddenly a very loud gunshot was heard and Nyph was dead. Maris then stated she saw a "ghost" and later even believed she shot Nyph. It was at that point that no one not even Maris herself believe she was innocent. It was a good thing Phoenix was there to get to the bottom of it as always.]]
*This game is very good with having tragic backstories and the next up to plate is Terry Greisen [[spoiler: aka James Trent. Many years ago, James and his wife Sarah Trent (along with Clive Warren) were a very good detective team and were cracking open cases up and down. They soon stumbled upon the smuggling ring and decided to take it down as well. Unfortunately, they got too eager and Warren was almost killed and Sarah ended up being killed by the hands of Helmock. James took her death very hard and decided to dedicate the rest of his life to taking down Helmock. When James tried to continue the search for Hemlock and the smuggling ring to Interpol, they decided against it which left to James leaving Interpol and taking matters into his own hands. This is what lead to James changing his name to Terry Greisen and developing his over-the-top detective lingo so that it can throw Hemlock off. Poor James because this only lead to Barrows nearly getting killed and Perry Docks aka. Clive Warren actually being killed. James was dealing with the pressure of having two people he cared about being killed. This was all discussed to Phoenix after Phoenix managed to break his Psyche-Locks and, like with Vulper, James has a unique animation where his jacket falls off and finally [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness drops the detective lingo]]. The real kicker is the next animation where the poor guy looks like he could burst into tears any moment to the point he was actually having an [[HeroicBSOD emotional breakdown.]] Fortunately, it took a very heartwarming speech from Phoenix to get him out of it and James leaves it to Phoenix to take down Helmock hoping other innocent person would be killed.]]
*It's finally about time to hear what happened with [[DirtyCop Renwick Smith]] for the past 5 years. [[spoiler: It's reveled after Hemlock figured out Smith hid the enigmium and refused to tell him where it is, Helmock forced Smith to be his right-hand-man and had him constantly cover up his tracks for his murders. Though Smith was relived to not have to kill anyone himself, he still feels bad that he has it witness all of these crimes firsthand and can't do a damn thing about it. It really gets to him when [[OnlyFriend Brisbane]] was nearly assaulted to death by Hemlock. Remember, doing all of this, witnessing all of these crimes, covering Helmock's tracks, Smith did it all for the protection of Brisbane, the only person Smith himself stated that he cares about. And Helmock ended up nearly killing Brisbane anyway after finding that he had the enigmium! Note while Smith is explaining all of this to Phoenix, very somber music plays in the background to drive this home. Right before Phoenix presents Smith's profile to reveal he's Helmock's #2, Smith has a unique sprite where he is actually frowning. Not the usual bored/angry frown, but a genuine sad one.]]
**To go further into this, [[spoiler: Smith technically ''is'' guilty of his crimes. Sure, he didn't try to kill Brisbane nor he stole the enigmium, but he was revealed to have tampered with the crime scene and a bunch of other things for the sake of Helmock. Even though Smith isn't evil, he is still a guilty man for other crimes and Phoenix was just trying to figure out what to do about all of this. Sure, his plan is the same to take down Helmock but that means if Helmock goes down, Smith will most likely be facing charges as well.]]
**And it's particularly sweet how Smith truly cares about Brisbane and was willing to commit many crimes just to keep him safe. Smith made it clear that he isn't a [[JerkAss nice guy]] and is very anti-social. However, Brisbane was the first person he could truly connect to and Brisbane feels the same way. Even Weever comments how the two often see each other and how good they get along.
**Hell, even Brisbane told Smith if he told him that [[spoiler: Helmock was harassing him for the enigmium all those years, Brisbane would've gave it to him no questions asked. This was a guy who was hell bent on keeping that material for himself (not for money but as a memento of Jack Crane). Indeed, [[HeterosexualLifePartners Brisbane and Smith are the best of friends]].]]
*To follow up on that, Morag Weever may seem like a strict person, but she genuinely is touched on how Brisbane and Smith get along and she really doesn't want to believe that Smith tried to kill him. She only stated what she saw in court and even looked saddened from all of that.
*The BadEnding if Phoenix fails to present the correct evidence during any of Freude's RageBreakingPoint moments. [[spoiler: Freude ''breaks'' Phoenix's badge and per the agreement, Phoenix was forced to step down as defense attorney. Phoenix, clearly in a state of depression, stated the Smith was found guilty and Brisbane [[AFateWorseThanDeath never woke up from his coma]]. He finishes saying that the Boogeyman (Helmock) is still out there and that he got him.]]
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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] [[SadisticChoice or simply let]] [[TheDreaded The Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].

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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] [[SadisticChoice or simply let]] let [[TheDreaded The the Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].
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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] [[SadisticChoice or simply let]] [[TheDreaded The Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].

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* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to steal it and split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] [[SadisticChoice or simply let]] [[TheDreaded The Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].

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* [[JerkassWoobie Brisbane's]] story. [[spoiler:For the first 25 years of his life, he's a ShrinkingViolet, most likely intimidated and bullied a lot. Then, [[ThatOneCase his best friend is mysteriously murdered in front of his eyes]], and [[TheScapegoat he is framed]]. His [[CrusadingLawyer attorney]] manages to acquit him and discover his friend's true murderer, but they're not done trying to screw up his life - as a parting gift, they throw the murder weapon at him before being dragged off, resulting in the [[EyeScream loss of an eye]]]]. No wonder he [[HairTriggerTemper turned]] [[AmoralAttorney out]] [[JerkAss so]] [[ScaryBlackMan rough]].

* [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Vul]][[LaughablyEvil per's]]]] [[TragicVillain story]] could apply as this. [[spoiler:He starts off as just an average prosecutor, when his [[AssholeVictim step-brother, Jack Crane]], a member of [[TheConspiracy Aculeus]], contacts him, and [[StartOfDarkness sets him up with a forger]]. It all goes downhill from there. Not only is he roped in with Aculeus (and, by extension, [[TheDreaded Hemlock]]), he soon finds himself [[BlackMail crossing paths]] with Redd White, who sends him to [[HeKnowsTooMuch assassinate]] [[CrusadingLawyer Vincenzo Cicatrice]]. He is [[SavedByCanon unsuccessful, of course,]] and even gets [[GoodScarsEvilScars a scar]] for it]]. [[SarcasmMode And it gets better!]] One year later, [[spoiler:the two brothers are assigned to transport the incredibly valuable [[AppliedPhlebitonum enigmium]], but Crane decides to split the fortune with his brother... [[CrossingTheLineTwice or, rather, Brisbane]]]]. After going through this, is it any wonder he decided to [[spoiler: [[DeadlyEuphemism off]] his step-brother]]? No. [[spoiler: Following this, Vulper [[KarmaHoudini flees the country]] for [[TimeSkip five years]], eventually returning to do some... [[MoralEventHorizon admittedly pretty horrible things]], and is finally [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty brought to justice]]]]. But the universe [[CosmicPlaything isn't done with him yet]], oh no: [[spoiler:After [[AntiVillain Cedric Maplethorpe]] is imprisoned for attempted murder and manslaughter, he is [[AlasPoorVillain murdered]] (presumably by Hemlock) in his cell, and Vulper is [[NotMeThisTime set up]] [[TheScapegoat as the obvious culprit]]. At this point, Vulper knows it's over: he can [[SadisticChoice either]] [[MiscarriageofJustice confess to a murder he didn't commit, dooming him to the gallows,]] [[SadisticChoice or simply let]] [[TheDreaded The Boogeyman]] [[DeadlyEuphemism bump him off]] [[NeverSleepAgain in the night]]]].
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