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'''Wei Wuxian''': I doubt you’ll even return all of them. [[NoSympathy Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!]]

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'''Wei Wuxian''': '''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you’ll even return all of them. [[NoSympathy Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!]]
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** What makes it worse is that Jin Guangyao's speech might have been the final ''final'' push for Jiang Cheng to let go of Wei Wuxian for good. After hearing such a cutting statement, he might have felt that he's a terrible brother who's unworthy of Wei Wuxian's loyalty.

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** What makes it worse is that Jin Guangyao's speech might have been the very final ''final'' push for Jiang Cheng to let go of Wei Wuxian for good. After hearing such a cutting statement, he might have felt be thinking that he's a terrible brother who's unworthy of Wei Wuxian's loyalty.

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* As Wei Wuxian sees Lan Wangji off, he wonders if they'll ever meet each other again so he can actually treat him to a meal, but thinks against it when he feels they always part on bad terms whenever they meet.


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* After making out with Lan Wangji and both of them getting physically intimate, Wei Wuxian thanks Lan Wangji for being there for him, but he mistakes his words to mean something else entirely and Wei Wuxian realizes that Lan Wangji had sobered up.
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** He also adds that Lan Wangji had always followed the rules of their sect as well as being the epitome of moral goodness.
--> '''Lan Xichen:''' The only mistake he made all his life... was you. You're telling me... you're telling me you didn't know?
* After Lan Xichen reveals that information to him, Wei Wuxian immediately tries to run back to Lan Wangji, realizing how terrible he left the situation between them. But then he's stopped by Jin Guangyao's men who eventually overpower him.
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** Followed soon after is Wen Qing's reaction when she realizes that Wen Ning is already dead. The audio drama sinks the knife in even further by gracing our ears with her anguished cries. In the ''donghua'', she doesn't even get to do that; as soon as Wen Ning's death fully sinks in, she sheds some tears... and faints then and there because she's too exhausted to do anything else. That, or the grief shocked her too much to do anything else.

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** Followed soon after is Wen Qing's reaction when she realizes that Wen Ning is already dead. The audio drama sinks the knife in even further by gracing our ears with her anguished cries. In the ''donghua'', she doesn't even get to do that; as soon as Wen Ning's death fully sinks in, she sheds some tears... and faints then and there because she's too exhausted to do anything else. That, or the grief shocked her and the resulting shock was too much for her to do anything else.take.
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'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Sect. That's the only way to make the subject die!
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\'

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'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?
what?\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Sect. That's the only way to make the subject die!
die!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\'end!\\

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* It's subtle, but the first Wen Jiang Cheng meets is ''Wen Yuan'', who is a toddler. The fact ''that'' does nothing to change Jiang Cheng's mindset, that he still refuses to help blatant innocents in front of them ''despite the proof that only civilians were there'' and even go so far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed, is absolutely heartbreaking.
--> '''Jiang Cheng''': The only way of making up for things is for us to end things before they get the chance to!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Sect. That's the only way to make the subject die!
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\'
'''Wei Wuxian''': I doubt you’ll even return all of them. [[NoSympathy Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!]]



* It's subtle, but the first Wen Jiang Cheng meets is ''Wen Yuan'', who is a toddler. The fact ''that'' does nothing to change Jiang Cheng's mindset, that he still refuses to help blatant innocents in front of them ''despite the proof that only civilians were there'', is absolutely heartbreaking.
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* It's subtle, but the first Wen Jiang Cheng meets is ''Wen Yuan'', who is a toddler. The fact ''that'' does nothing to change Jiang Cheng's mindset, that he still refuses to help blatant innocents in front of them ''despite the proof that only civilians were there'', is absolutely heartbreaking.
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* Seeing Wei Wuxian cough, Lan Wangji offers to give him spiritual energy to help heal his wound but Wei Wuxian vehemently refuses. He claims it's so Lan Wangji wouldn't waste energy on such a small wound, but it was to deflect him from finding out that Wei Wuxian no longer has a golden core.
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* As Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian manage to contain the malevolent energy in Wen Ning and bring his consciousness back, Wen Qing and the other Wen's break into happy tears and ask Wen Ning if he can recognize them.
** Although a downer minor moment as Wen Ning quietly says that he wants to cry but can't anymore. When Wei Wuxian inquires if he can remember what happened before they restored his consciousness, he solemnly nods.
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* Lan Wangji goes to visit Yunmeng and tries to plead Wei Wuxian from continuing to use demonic cultivation which only angers the other and when Wei Wuxian slams his fist into the table the female ghosts he called off react to his anger by hissing at Lan Wangji. Afterwards, Lan Wangji apologizes for stepping out of line.
** Wei Wuxian then decides he shouldn't have bothered Lan Wangji today and tells him he won't be a bother to him anymore. Before he leaves he hopes they'll have another chance to meet.
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* Jiang Cheng shoving Wei Wuxian and telling him in a broken voice that he used all of his spiritual power in that shove. And no matter how many times he can try, the result will always be the same, because his golden core was destroyed by Wen Zhuliu.

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* Wei Wuxian threatening to kill Wen Ning and even calling him a Wen dog like everyone else. Wen Ning doesn't hold it against Wei Wuxian, but it's sad to think that Wei Wuxian's grief and anger are slowly clouding his mind like everyone else as they direct that anger to the Wen's.

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* In the audio drama as Wei Wuxian runs to find Jiang Cheng, he starts getting flashbacks of his life at Lotus Pier before its fall. When he trips and falls, it's only then does he let his grief sink in as he angrily punches the ground and cries, likely feeling that everything that happened ''was'' his fault.
* Wei Wuxian threatening to kill Wen Ning and even calling him a Wen dog like everyone else. Wen Ning doesn't hold it against Wei Wuxian, but it's sad to think that Wei Wuxian's grief and anger are slowly has started clouding his mind like everyone else as they direct that anger to the Wen's.
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* Jin Ling fearfully telling Fairy to run away when Jin Guangyao orders Su She to kill the dog. Jin Ling starts to cry as he asks his uncle why he would hurt Fairy when he gifted them to him when he was a child.

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* Wei Wuxian threatening to kill Wen Ning and even calling him a Wen dog like everyone else. Wen Ning doesn't hold it against Wei Wuxian, but it's sad to think that Wei Wuxian's grief and anger are slowly clouding his mind like everyone else as they direct that anger to the Wen's.




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* "Gifting A Dog": Jin Ling gets bullied for being parentless and some Jin kids even try to take his sword away, leading Jin Ling to fighting the group and biting one kid. Once he returns home in tears, he starts screaming and tearing his room apart with the adults around him unsure of how they should intervene. The story ends with Jin Guangyao gently giving Jin Ling a puppy he asks to name and look after.
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** On the other side of the argument, however, while there's no justifying how Jiang Fengmian is a lousy father to Jiang Cheng, he ''was'' forcefully roped into a marriage with someone he was incompatible with, something he knew from the start. Considering that he went to the Cloud Recesses and likely heard the story of why Wei Wuxian got into a fight with Jin Zixuan (who at the time had nothing but disdain for Jiang Yanli), it's at least easy to understand his reasons for cancelling his daughter's engagement. Even when you take into account the issue of DeliberateValuesDissonance and cultural differences, no parent in their right mind would force their child to marry someone who doesn't even like them, political connections be damned.

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** On the other side of the argument, however, while there's no justifying how Jiang Fengmian is a lousy father to Jiang Cheng, he ''was'' forcefully roped into a marriage with someone he was incompatible with, something he knew from the start. Considering that he went to the Cloud Recesses and likely heard the story of why Wei Wuxian got into a fight with Jin Zixuan (who at the time had nothing but disdain for Jiang Yanli), it's at least easy to understand his reasons for cancelling his daughter's engagement. Even when you take into account the issue of DeliberateValuesDissonance ValuesDissonance and cultural differences, no parent in their right mind would force their child to marry someone who doesn't even like them, political connections be damned.
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* After beating up the other Jin sect juniors Wei Wuxian talks about how Jin Ling should get into some scraps since he's still young, and realizes he can't call for back up because he has no friends. When he talks with Lan Wangji Wei Wuxian realizes Jin Ling was always alone on night hunts, and only Jiang Cheng seemed to be an exception. He wonders whether or not his nephew actually has friends his age.
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[[caption-width-right:350:In a world of prejudice, NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:In a world of prejudice, filled with prejudice and injustice, NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished.]]
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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies, but they're far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have ''a'' relationship, or anything resembling one.

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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies, but they're far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have ''a'' a relationship, or anything resembling one.
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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies, but they're far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have ''a'' relationship, or anything that vaguely resembles one.

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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies, but they're far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have ''a'' relationship, or anything that vaguely resembles resembling one.

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--> '''Jiang Cheng:''' I want my dad and mom... ''I want my dad and mom''!!!!



* Jin Zixuan's death. He was innocent of his family's plot to kill Wei Wuxian, and knew nothing about it; indeed, he was trying to ''deescalate'' the altercation before Wei Wuxian loses control. His last breath is spent telling Wei Wuxian that Yanli was waiting for him to arrive.
--> '''Jin Zixuan:''' A-Li... is still... waiting for you...

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* Jin Zixuan's death. He was innocent of his family's plot to kill Wei Wuxian, and knew nothing about it; indeed, he was trying to ''deescalate'' the altercation before Wei Wuxian loses control. His last breath is spent telling Wei Wuxian that Jiang Yanli was waiting for him to arrive.
--> '''Jin Zixuan:''' A-Li... is still... waiting for you...
arrive.



--> ''Wei Wuxian spun around to dodge the attack and laughed,'' "Fine, fine. I knew since the start that we’d have to fight a real fight like this one sooner or later. You’ve always found me disagreeable no matter what. Come on!"

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--> ''Wei Wuxian spun around to dodge the attack and laughed,'' "Fine, fine. I knew since the start that we’d we'd have to fight a real fight like this one sooner or later. You’ve You've always found me disagreeable no matter what. Come on!"



--> ''Although he shouted the words, any sane person would be able to tell that Lan Wangji’s voice was clearly shaking. However, right now, Wei Wuxian had already lost his judgement. He was already half-mad, half-unconscious. All evil was being augmented by him. He felt that everyone loathed him and he loathed everyone as well. He wouldn’t be scared no matter who came at him. It wouldn’t matter no matter who came at him. It was all the same anyway.''
* In the ''donghua'' Lan Wangji tries to reach out to Wei Wuxian, but due to Wei Wuxian's belief that Lan Wangji only sees him as a threat leads to these words:
--> '''Wei Wuxian:''' I always knew we would fight to the death one day.\\
'''Lan Wangji:''' Stop this at once! You've lost control!\\
'''Wei Wuxian:''' So this is it... ''you've always seen me as an annoyance''!

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--> ''Although he shouted the words, any sane person would be able to tell that Lan Wangji’s Wangji's voice was clearly shaking. However, right now, Wei Wuxian had already lost his judgement. He was already half-mad, half-unconscious. All evil was being augmented by him. He felt that everyone loathed him and he loathed everyone as well. He wouldn’t be scared no matter who came at him. It wouldn’t wouldn't matter no matter who came at him. It was all the same anyway.''
* In the ** The ''donghua'' takes a slightly different spin on this scene, with Wei Wuxian wrongfully accusing Lan Wangji tries to reach out to Wei Wuxian, but due to Wei Wuxian's belief that Lan Wangji only sees him as a threat leads to these words:
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'''Wei Wuxian:''' I always knew we would fight to the death one day.\\
'''Lan Wangji:''' Stop this at once!
Wuxian''': You've lost control!\\
'''Wei Wuxian:''' So this is it... ''you've
always seen me as an annoyance''! annoyance!



* Qin Su finding out that the man she loved lied to her for their entire marriage and (possibly) murdered their son. Worse, the man she loved is her ''brother''. What makes it even worse is that she was otherwise a NiceGirl; her only mistake was that she fell in love with the wrong person.

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* Qin Su finding out that the man she loved lied to her for their entire marriage and (possibly) murdered their son. Worse, the man she loved is her ''brother''. What makes it even worse is that she was otherwise a NiceGirl; her only mistake NiceGirl who was that she fell unlucky enough to fall in love with the wrong person.



* Lan Xichen now fully aware that Wei Wuxian has returned fills him on the things Lan Wangji refuses to tell him directly. After the Nightless City Attack, Lan Wangji took Wei Wuxian away and hid him in a cave while giving him spiritual energy. Lan Xichen says his brother spoke gently to Wei Wuxian the entire time, but since this was right after Wei Wuxian had witnessed his sister get killed because of him, he only [[MadnessMantra kept repeating one thing]] to Lan Wangji:
--> '''Wei Wuxian:''' [[LeaveMeAlone Get lost]]!



* Lan Xichen filling in some of the blanks in Wei Wuxian's memory. After the Nightless City attack, Lan Wangji took Wei Wuxian away and hid him in a cave while giving him spiritual energy. Lan Xichen says his brother spoke gently to Wei Wuxian the entire time, but since this was right after Wei Wuxian had witnessed his adoptive sister's death and subsequently lost his mind, he only [[MadnessMantra kept repeating one thing]] to Lan Wangji:
--> '''Wei Wuxian''': [[LeaveMeAlone Get lost]]!



** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies but they're also far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have anything ''resembling'' a relationship.

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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies enemies, but they're also far from friends or even brothers. They no longer have ''a'' relationship, or anything ''resembling'' a relationship.that vaguely resembles one.



* The extra where Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji go on a date in Yunmeng is mostly sweet. But there are bittersweet implications in the chapter nevertheless; the couple has fun in many places, but never once do they state any plans to visit Lotus Pier, and the place is only mentioned a few times when Wei Wuxian reminisces about the past. Wei Wuxian is in a much better place now, both physically and emotionally, but it's a little sad that he's keeping his distance from his old home. After all, what was the last thing Jiang Cheng told him the last time he was in Lotus Pier?

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* The extra where Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji go on a date in Yunmeng is mostly sweet. But there are bittersweet implications in the chapter nevertheless; the couple has fun in many places, but never once do they state any plans to visit Lotus Pier, and the place is only mentioned a few times when Wei Wuxian reminisces about the past. Wei Wuxian is in a much better place now, both physically now and emotionally, has made peace with almost everything in his life, but it's a little sad that he's keeping his distance from his old home. After all, [[GetOut what was the last thing Jiang Cheng told him the last time he was in Lotus Pier? Pier]]?
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* Despite his small role in the story, it's not hard to believe why Mo Xuanyu sacrificed his spirit in order to bring back Wei Wuxian. He was one of the many bastards of Jin Guangshan, was kicked out of his sect due to his low cultivation and because of his sexuality, and wasn't treated any better by his aunt, uncle and cousin back at the Mo manor. Soon afterwards, everyone else starts labelling him a lunatic once his mental states starts to deteriorate after all of the abuse he suffered through. It was only a matter of time before he snapped and believed getting his revenge via Wei Wuxian was a better alternative than living.
** The audio drama even makes this clearer where he calls for Wei Wuxian in broken tears, saying death would be preferable over living anymore.

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* Despite his small role in the story, it's not hard to believe why Mo Xuanyu sacrificed his spirit in order to bring back Wei Wuxian. He was one of the many bastards of Jin Guangshan, was kicked out of his sect due to his low cultivation and because of his sexuality, and wasn't treated any better by his aunt, uncle and cousin back at the Mo manor. Soon afterwards, everyone else starts labelling him a lunatic once his mental states state starts to deteriorate after all of the abuse he suffered through. It was only a matter of time before he snapped and believed getting his revenge via Wei Wuxian was a better alternative than living.
** The audio drama even makes this clearer where he calls for Wei Wuxian in broken tears, saying death would be preferable over living anymore.tears.
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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies but they're also far from friends. They no longer have anything ''resembling'' a relationship.

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** [[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 A quote from one of the first promotional posters]] of the ''donghua'' even confirms that they're no longer enemies but they're also far from friends.friends or even brothers. They no longer have anything ''resembling'' a relationship.
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** And Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just silently wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his friendship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, but it's still not the closure he wanted, yet he knows he has to accept it.

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** And Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just silently wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down.down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his friendship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, but it's still not the closure he wanted, yet he knows he has to accept it.

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* As Lan Wangji arrives to attempt to deescelate the situation, Wei Wuxian doesn't heed any of his words literally and metaphorically breaking the bridge between him and the cultivation world. The face that Lan Wangji wears when he tries to peacefully confront Wei Wuxian is nothing short of worried.

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* As Lan Wangji arrives to attempt to deescelate deescalate the situation, Wei Wuxian doesn't heed any of his words as he literally and metaphorically breaking breaks the bridge between him and the cultivation world. The face that Lan Wangji wears when he tries to peacefully confront Wei Wuxian is nothing short of worried.worried for what will happen if Wei Wuxian continues down this path.



* Wei Wuxian being accused of cursing Jin Zixun, and he only seems mildly annoyed to even tired that everyone wants to blame all the evil in the world on him because he's become an easy target to pin misfortune on.




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* In the ''donghua'' Lan Wangji tries to reach out to Wei Wuxian, but due to Wei Wuxian's belief that Lan Wangji only sees him as a threat leads to these words:
--> '''Wei Wuxian:''' I always knew we would fight to the death one day.\\
'''Lan Wangji:''' Stop this at once! You've lost control!\\
'''Wei Wuxian:''' So this is it... ''you've always seen me as an annoyance''!
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--> '''Jin Guangyao''': [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Sect Leader Jiang, if only your attitude towards your]] ''[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shixiong]]'' [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech was just a bit better, showing everyone that your bond was too strong to be broken for them to have a chance, or if you exhibited just a bit more tolerance after what happened,]] [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot things wouldn't have become what they were.]] [[VillainHasAPoint Oh, speaking of it, you were also a main force of the siege at the Burial Mounds...]]

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--> '''Jin Guangyao''': Sect Leader Jiang, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Sect Leader Jiang, if only your attitude towards your]] ''[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shixiong]]'' [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech was just a bit better, showing everyone that your bond was too strong to be broken for them to have a chance, or if you exhibited just a bit more tolerance after what happened,]] [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot things wouldn't have become what they were.]] [[VillainHasAPoint were]]. Oh, speaking of it, [[VillainHasAPoint you were also a main force of the siege at the Burial Mounds...]]
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* The extra where Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji go on a date in Yunmeng is mostly sweet. But there are bittersweet implications in the chapter nevertheless; the couple has fun in many places, but never once do they state any plans to visit Lotus Pier, and the place is only mentioned a few times when Wei Wuxian reminisces about the past. Wei Wuxian is in a much better place now, both physically and emotionally, but it's a little sad that he's keeping his distance from his old home. After all, what was the last thing Jiang Cheng told him the last time he was in Lotus Pier?

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