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* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an HonoraryUncle to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans and his inability to let go of the memory of the horrors they put him through, unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.

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** Said ape happens to be Grey, one of Koba's own loyal followers. Imagine the betrayal he must have felt, thinking the leader he respected was going to save him: only to steal his weapon and leave him to die.
* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an HonoraryUncle to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans and his inability to let go of the memory of the horrors they put him through, unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.
apes. Even worse is that we see Koba fall to his death ''from Caesar's point of view:'' he had to watch the ape he once considered brother plummet to his painful demise, crashing into debris and wires on the way down, because he was too far gone and beyond redemption.

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* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans and his inability to let go of the memory of the horrors they put him through, unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.

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* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts HonoraryUncle to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans and his inability to let go of the memory of the horrors they put him through, unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.
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** Despite how evil Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He was originally an innocent, friendly ape who lived in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who taught them sign language, but then his mum died defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding was cut. Koba was then sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forced Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they failed. When Koba finally tried to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punished Koba by [[EyeScream scarring and blinding his left eye]]. After Tommy committed suicide, it looked as if Koba and Milo would finally be able to escape together...but instead they were captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba was then sent to a lab, where he was repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which made him fall deep into despair and even caused him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba formed a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knew sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allowed to experiment on him just so he could have someone to talk to. But then Amol was fired by Jacobs, who derided Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being taunted again by Jacobs, who mocked the scars Koba had received and derides him as a simple animal, Koba lost all trust and affection he once had for humans, thus becoming the vicious savage we see in the movie.

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** Despite how evil Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He was originally an innocent, friendly ape who lived in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who taught them sign language, but then his mum died defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding was cut. Koba was then sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forced Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they failed. When Koba finally tried to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punished Koba by [[EyeScream scarring and blinding his left eye]]. After Tommy committed suicide, it looked as if Koba and Milo would finally be able to escape together...but instead they were captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba was then sent to a lab, where he was repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which made him fall deep into despair and even caused him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba formed a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knew sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allowed to experiment on him just so he could have someone to talk to. But then Amol was fired by Jacobs, who derided Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being taunted again by Jacobs, who mocked the scars Koba had received and derides derided him as a simple animal, Koba lost all trust and affection he once had for humans, thus becoming the vicious savage we see in the movie.



* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.

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* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans and his inability to let go of the memory of the horrors they put him through, unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.
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* Even though he technically brought it upon himself, it's hard not to feel even a little bit sorry for Koba when he is nearly beaten/strangled to death by Caesar in front of the apes and Malcom's group. It's obviously very traumatizing and humiliating for Koba, and the look of hurt on his face when the other apes avoid his gaze when he looks to them for support implies he feels ''betrayed''. It is this that finally cements Koba's decision to betray Caesar.

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* Even though he technically brought it upon himself, it's hard not to feel even a little bit sorry for Koba when he is nearly beaten/strangled to death by Caesar in front of the apes and Malcom's group. It's obviously very traumatizing and humiliating for Koba, who has already suffered so much, and the look of hurt on his face when the other apes avoid his gaze when he looks to them for support implies he feels ''betrayed''. It is this that finally cements Koba's decision to betray Caesar.
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** Despite how horrible Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He originally lives in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who teaches them sign language, but then his mum dies defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding is cut. Koba is sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forces Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they fail. When Koba finally tries to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punishes Koba by [[EyeScream scarring and blinding his left eye]]. After Tommy commits suicide, it looks as if Koba and Milo will finally be able to escape together...but instead they are captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba is then sent to a lab, where he is repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which makes him fall deep into despair and even causes him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba forms a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knows sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allows to experiment on him just so he can have someone to talk to. But then Amol is fired by Jacobs, who derides Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being taunted by Jacobs, who mocks the scars Koba has received and derides him as a simple animal, Koba loses all trust and affection he once had for humans, thus becoming the vicious ape we see in the movie.
* Even though he technically brought it upon himself, it's hard not to feel sorry for Koba when he is nearly beaten/strangled to death by Caesar in front of the apes and Malcom's group. It's obviously very traumatizing and humiliating for Koba, and the look of hurt on his face when the other apes avoid his gaze when he looks to them for support implies he feels ''betrayed''. It is this that finally cements Koba's decision to betray Caesar.

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** Despite how horrible evil Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He was originally lives an innocent, friendly ape who lived in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who teaches taught them sign language, but then his mum dies died defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding is was cut. Koba is was then sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forces forced Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they fail. failed. When Koba finally tries tried to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punishes punished Koba by [[EyeScream scarring and blinding his left eye]]. After Tommy commits committed suicide, it looks looked as if Koba and Milo will would finally be able to escape together...but instead they are were captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba is was then sent to a lab, where he is was repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which makes made him fall deep into despair and even causes caused him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba forms formed a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knows knew sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allows allowed to experiment on him just so he can could have someone to talk to. But then Amol is was fired by Jacobs, who derides derided Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being taunted again by Jacobs, who mocks mocked the scars Koba has had received and derides him as a simple animal, Koba loses lost all trust and affection he once had for humans, thus becoming the vicious ape savage we see in the movie.
* Even though he technically brought it upon himself, it's hard not to feel even a little bit sorry for Koba when he is nearly beaten/strangled to death by Caesar in front of the apes and Malcom's group. It's obviously very traumatizing and humiliating for Koba, and the look of hurt on his face when the other apes avoid his gaze when he looks to them for support implies he feels ''betrayed''. It is this that finally cements Koba's decision to betray Caesar.

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** It gets even worse in a prequel novel once you learn the circumstances. Dreyfus has to evacuate from San Francisco and leave the plague-infested city behind. At the National Guard station he desperately tries to call his wife Maddie, and when he finally gets her, he learns that one of his sons had been infected and that his family is at risk of catching the illness. After interrogating an Alpha-Omega gang leader Dreyfus orders a car to get back into the city to save his family. It's implied that he was too short on time.
* The fact that for the moment, peace was possible. The humans had done it. They fixed the dam, gotten the power the city needed. Everything would've been ok, as Dreyfus would never have needed to call in the military to fight, and the city would've lived on without needing to bother the apes. And then Koba shot Caesar, and that moment vanished in fire and hate.

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** It gets even worse in a prequel novel once you learn the circumstances. Dreyfus has to evacuate from San Francisco and leave the plague-infested city behind. At the National Guard station he desperately tries to call his wife Maddie, and when he finally gets her, he learns that one of his sons had been infected and that his family is at risk of catching the illness. After interrogating an Alpha-Omega gang leader Dreyfus orders a car to get back into the city to save his family. It's implied Given how he reacts at seeing their photo, it's obvious that he was too short on time.
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** Even worse, during the initial stages of the outbreak he allowed his son Edward to go along his classmates to deliver canned food to the quarantine zones (and to impress his girlfriend) - and in spite of promising to have protective gear and hand sanitizers all time, Edward ''still'' ended up infected. Dreyfus breaking down sobbing in this film gives another horrific and sad interpretation at the same time - it can be presumed that he still blames ''[[ItsAllMyFault himself]]'' for allowing his son to go outside, catch the Simian Flu and doom his family.
* [[HopeSpot The fact that for the moment, peace was possible.possible]]. The humans had done it. They fixed the dam, gotten the power the city needed. Everything would've been ok, as Dreyfus would never have needed to call in the military to fight, and the city would've lived on without needing to bother the apes. [[YankTheDogsChain And then Koba shot Caesar, and that moment vanished in fire and hate.hate]].



*** The origin of the gun was that it belonged to a teen that was learning how to hunt with his father, but then his father caught Simian Flu, he and his mother have to use it to loot, and he's eventually forced to sell it so he can afford food and medicine.

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*** The origin of the gun was that it belonged to a teen that was learning how to hunt with his father, but then his father caught Simian Flu, he and his mother have to use it to loot, and he's eventually forced to sell it so he can afford food and medicine. [[UncertainDoom We never find out what happened to him afterwards.]]



*** A US Marshal who takes the gun for himself ends up becoming a thief himself to help his sick son, and robs a family. He ends up shooting the father who pulled a knife on him, killing him and leaving the rest of the family hysterical. He later gets shot himself by another thief. He's only alive long enough to make a face of resignation before he's shot point blank.

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*** A US Marshal who takes the gun for himself ends up becoming a thief himself to help his sick son, and robs a family. He ends up shooting the father who pulled a knife on him, killing him and leaving the rest of the family hysterical. He later gets shot himself by another thief.thief while evading a hostile group. He's only alive long enough to make a face of resignation before he's shot point blank.
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** It gets even worse in a prequel novel once you learn the circumstances. Dreyfus has to evacuate from San Francisco and leave the plague-infested city behind. At the National Guard station he desperately tries to call his wife Maddie, and when he finally gets her, he learns that [[AdultFear one of his sons had been infected and that his family is at risk of catching the illness]]. After interrogating an Alpha-Omega gang leader Dreyfus orders a car to get back into the city to save his family. It's implied that he was too short on time.

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** It gets even worse in a prequel novel once you learn the circumstances. Dreyfus has to evacuate from San Francisco and leave the plague-infested city behind. At the National Guard station he desperately tries to call his wife Maddie, and when he finally gets her, he learns that [[AdultFear one of his sons had been infected and that his family is at risk of catching the illness]].illness. After interrogating an Alpha-Omega gang leader Dreyfus orders a car to get back into the city to save his family. It's implied that he was too short on time.
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** Despite how evil Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He originally lives in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who teaches them sign language, but then his mum dies defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding is cut. Koba is sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forces Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they fail. When Koba finally tries to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punishes Koba by scarring and blinding his left eye. After Tommy commits suicide, it looks as if Koba and Milo will finally be able to escape together...but instead they are captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba is then sent to a lab, where he is repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which makes him fall deep into despair and even causes him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba forms a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knows sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allows to experiment on him just so he can have someone to talk to. But then Amol is fired by Jacobs, who derides Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being mocked derided by Jacobs as simple animal, Koba loses all trust and affection he once had for humans, becoming the vicious ape who see in the movie.

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** Despite how evil horrible Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He originally lives in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who teaches them sign language, but then his mum dies defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding is cut. Koba is sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forces Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they fail. When Koba finally tries to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punishes Koba by [[EyeScream scarring and blinding his left eye.eye]]. After Tommy commits suicide, it looks as if Koba and Milo will finally be able to escape together...but instead they are captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba is then sent to a lab, where he is repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which makes him fall deep into despair and even causes him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba forms a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knows sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allows to experiment on him just so he can have someone to talk to. But then Amol is fired by Jacobs, who derides Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being mocked derided taunted by Jacobs Jacobs, who mocks the scars Koba has received and derides him as a simple animal, Koba loses all trust and affection he once had for humans, thus becoming the vicious ape who we see in the movie.
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** Despite how evil Koba becomes, his backstory, shown in horrifying detail in the prequel novel, is extremely tragic. He originally lives in a primate search facility with his loving mum and a kind caregiver who teaches them sign language, but then his mum dies defending him from an abusive drunk, and the facility's project funding is cut. Koba is sold to a man named Tommy, who regularly forces Koba and his new chimp friend, Milo, to do silly tricks, electrocuting or beating them if they fail. When Koba finally tries to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punishes Koba by scarring and blinding his left eye. After Tommy commits suicide, it looks as if Koba and Milo will finally be able to escape together...but instead they are captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba is then sent to a lab, where he is repeatedly, cruelly and painfully experimented on and otherwise kept in complete isolation, which makes him fall deep into despair and even causes him to self-harm himself. At one point, Koba forms a relationship with Amol, a scientist who knows sign language, and who Koba reluctantly allows to experiment on him just so he can have someone to talk to. But then Amol is fired by Jacobs, who derides Koba as a "stupid, ugly monkey" before leaving Koba all alone once again. After many more years of torturous experiments, and finally being mocked derided by Jacobs as simple animal, Koba loses all trust and affection he once had for humans, becoming the vicious ape who see in the movie.
* Even though he technically brought it upon himself, it's hard not to feel sorry for Koba when he is nearly beaten/strangled to death by Caesar in front of the apes and Malcom's group. It's obviously very traumatizing and humiliating for Koba, and the look of hurt on his face when the other apes avoid his gaze when he looks to them for support implies he feels ''betrayed''. It is this that finally cements Koba's decision to betray Caesar.
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-->'''Caesar:''' I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now [[NotSoDifferent how much like them we are]].

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-->'''Caesar:''' I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now [[NotSoDifferent [[NotSoDifferentRemark how much like them we are]].
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* Blue Eyes telling Caesar [[spoiler:that Koba killed Ash, causing Blue Eyes to shed tears for his friend. Barely a minute later, he sums up the reasons for him and the other apes for blindly helping Koba in his war with the humans: "[[IControlMyMinionsThrough Fear makes others follow]]", a statement we as a species know all too well.]]

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* Blue Eyes telling Caesar [[spoiler:that that Koba killed Ash, causing Blue Eyes to shed tears for his friend. Barely a minute later, he sums up the reasons for him and the other apes for blindly helping Koba in his war with the humans: "[[IControlMyMinionsThrough Fear makes others follow]]", a statement we as a species know all too well.]]



* The fact that for the moment, peace was possible. The humans had done it. They fixed the dam, gotten the power the city needed. Everything would've been ok, as Dreyfus [[spoiler: would never have needed to call in the military to fight, and the city would've lived on without needing to bother the apes. And then Koba shot Caesar, and that moment vanished in fire and hate.]]
* A wounded Caesar at one point directs Malcolm and his group to an old, decayed house. [[spoiler:Which is quickly revealed to be the remains of Will Rodman's home from the previous movie. Even after all this time, a part of Caesar still misses those days. He even goes up into the attic where he used to play and watches a short recording of his past in which Will teaches him some sign language. The short discussion on the matter between Malcolm and Caesar after the camcorder dies is enough to make almost anyone's eyes water a little:]]
-->'''Malcolm:''' [[spoiler: Who was that...in the video?]]
-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: A good man...like you.]]
* At the end of the film, [[spoiler:with all-out war on the horizon]], this exchange.

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* The fact that for the moment, peace was possible. The humans had done it. They fixed the dam, gotten the power the city needed. Everything would've been ok, as Dreyfus [[spoiler: would never have needed to call in the military to fight, and the city would've lived on without needing to bother the apes. And then Koba shot Caesar, and that moment vanished in fire and hate.]]

* A wounded Caesar at one point directs Malcolm and his group to an old, decayed house. [[spoiler:Which Which is quickly revealed to be the remains of Will Rodman's home from the previous movie. Even after all this time, a part of Caesar still misses those days. He even goes up into the attic where he used to play and watches a short recording of his past in which Will teaches him some sign language. The short discussion on the matter between Malcolm and Caesar after the camcorder dies is enough to make almost anyone's eyes water a little:]]
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-->'''Malcolm:''' [[spoiler: Who was that...in the video?]]
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-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: A good man...like you.]]

* At the end of the film, [[spoiler:with with all-out war on the horizon]], horizon, this exchange.



* This conversation between Blue Eyes and Caesar, [[spoiler: when he is getting his wound fixed.]]
-->'''Blue Eyes:''' (''sign language'') [[spoiler: I'm sorry. For everything.]]
-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: No...I am to blame]]
-->'''Blue Eyes:''' (''sign language'') [[spoiler: But Koba betrayed you.]]
-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now [[NotSoDifferent how much like them we are]].]]

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* This conversation between Blue Eyes and Caesar, [[spoiler: when he is getting his wound fixed.]]
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-->'''Blue Eyes:''' (''sign language'') [[spoiler: I'm sorry. For everything.]]

-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: No...I am to blame]]
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-->'''Blue Eyes:''' (''sign language'') [[spoiler: But Koba betrayed you.]]
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-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now [[NotSoDifferent how much like them we are]].]]



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejrtt37XzOY Spread of Simian Flu]] is about a family struggling to survive on increasingly abandoned streets, while the mother is quarantined for contracting Simian Flu. [[spoiler: The final scene where the daughter dances for her mother, on what is implied to be her final moments, is heartbreaking]]

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejrtt37XzOY Spread of Simian Flu]] is about a family struggling to survive on increasingly abandoned streets, while the mother is quarantined for contracting Simian Flu. [[spoiler: The final scene where the daughter dances for her mother, on what is implied to be her final moments, is heartbreaking]]heartbreaking.



*** The origin of the gun was that it belonged to a teen that was learning how to hunt with his father, but then his father caught Simian Flu, [[spoiler: he and his mother have to use it to loot, and he's eventually forced to sell it so he can afford food and medicine.]]
*** The lady who bought it only did so to protect her children from rioters. [[spoiler: All of them catch Simian Flu and die.]]
*** A US Marshal who takes the gun for himself ends up becoming a thief himself to help his sick son, and robs a family. [[spoiler: He ends up shooting the father who pulled a knife on him, killing him and leaving the rest of the family hysterical. He later gets shot himself by another thief. He's only alive long enough to make a face of resignation before he's shot point blank.]]
*** The conspiracy theorist that gets the gun next comes home from hunting and complains that his friends hadn't cleaned the house they were staying at. He starts eating and sits down in the middle of the room...[[spoiler: and all his friends had long since died, victims of the Simian Flu. He breaks down sobbing and then uses the titular gun to commit suicide.]] It's also pretty clear in hindsight that he's experiencing SanitySlippage.
*** According to WordOfGod, [[spoiler: Will and Caroline]] died (likely from the Simian Flu) in the interlude between ''Rise'' and ''Dawn''. This means that despite saving Apekind, Caesar's [[spoiler: own adoptive parents]] died from the pandemic he helped unleash in the previous film.
* While the fact that Ellie's daughter Sarah died in the outbreak is heartbreaking enough, it's made even worse in the novelization. [[spoiler: She had been reading Sarah's favorite book to her, and then she sneezed blood all over the pages. Sarah was three years old when she contracted the Simian flu.]]
* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] [[RevengeBeforeReason most likely sealing his fate]].]]

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*** The origin of the gun was that it belonged to a teen that was learning how to hunt with his father, but then his father caught Simian Flu, [[spoiler: he and his mother have to use it to loot, and he's eventually forced to sell it so he can afford food and medicine.]]
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*** The lady who bought it only did so to protect her children from rioters. [[spoiler: All of them catch Simian Flu and die.]]
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*** A US Marshal who takes the gun for himself ends up becoming a thief himself to help his sick son, and robs a family. [[spoiler: He ends up shooting the father who pulled a knife on him, killing him and leaving the rest of the family hysterical. He later gets shot himself by another thief. He's only alive long enough to make a face of resignation before he's shot point blank.]]

*** The conspiracy theorist that gets the gun next comes home from hunting and complains that his friends hadn't cleaned the house they were staying at. He starts eating and sits down in the middle of the room...[[spoiler: and all his friends had long since died, victims of the Simian Flu. He breaks down sobbing and then uses the titular gun to commit suicide.]] It's also pretty clear in hindsight that he's experiencing SanitySlippage.
*** According to WordOfGod, [[spoiler: Will and Caroline]] Caroline died (likely from the Simian Flu) in the interlude between ''Rise'' and ''Dawn''. This means that despite saving Apekind, Caesar's [[spoiler: own adoptive parents]] parents died from the pandemic he helped unleash in the previous film.
* While the fact that Ellie's daughter Sarah died in the outbreak is heartbreaking enough, it's made even worse in the novelization. [[spoiler: She had been reading Sarah's favorite book to her, and then she sneezed blood all over the pages. Sarah was three years old when she contracted the Simian flu.]]

* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] [[RevengeBeforeReason most likely sealing his fate]].]]
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* The opening credits of the movie showing various different news reports explaining what happened during the [[Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes previous film,]] the Simian Flu outbreak and the Government shutting down as a whole while [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msv59gwSRek soft piano music plays.]]

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* The opening credits of the movie showing various different news reports explaining what happened during the [[Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes previous film,]] film]], the Simian Flu outbreak and the Government shutting down as a whole while [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msv59gwSRek soft piano music plays.]]plays]].



* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.

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* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.apes.

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* Koba's outraged yells of 'human work?' as he points out the scars all over his body: it really hammers home that he was just an ape once, and he went through horrific abuse all his life. Humans may have made him smart, [[CreateYourOwnVillain but they also made him a monster]].

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* Koba's outraged yells of 'human work?' as he points out the scars all over his body: it really hammers home that he was just an ape once, and he went through horrific abuse all his life. Humans may have made him smart, [[CreateYourOwnVillain [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil but they also made him a monster]].
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* Koba's outraged yells of 'human work?' as he points out the scars all over his body: it really hammers home that he was just an ape once, and he went through horrific abuse all his life. Humans may have made him smart, but they also made him a monster.

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* Koba's outraged yells of 'human work?' as he points out the scars all over his body: it really hammers home that he was just an ape once, and he went through horrific abuse all his life. Humans may have made him smart, [[CreateYourOwnVillain but they also made him a monster.monster]].
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* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] [[RevengeBeforeReason most likely sealing his fate]].]]

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* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] [[RevengeBeforeReason most likely sealing his fate]].]]]]
* Although it was extremely deserved, it’s hard not to feel sadness from Koba’s death. At the beginning of the movie, he was a good and loyal friend to Caesar and an honorary uncle of sorts to Blue Eyes. Sadly, Koba’s deep hatred for humans unleashed the monster inside, destroying his good relationships with the other apes.
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** It gets even worse in a prequel novel once you learn the circumstances. Dreyfus has to evacuate from San Francisco and leave the plague-infested city behind. At the National Guard station he desperately tries to call his wife Maddie, and when he finally gets her, he learns that [[AdultFear one of his sons had been infected and that his family is at risk of catching the illness]]. After interrogating an Alpha-Omega gang leader Dreyfus orders a car to get back into the city to save his family. It's implied that he was too short on time.
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* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] most likely sealing his fate.]]

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* After [[spoiler: Dreyfus detonates the explosives on the tower's support beams, interrupting the fight between Koba and Caesar, Caesar is in the middle of helping wounded or trapped apes. Some apes did not survive. One in particular is laying limply on a metal beam, still visible in much of the remainder of the scene. Furthermore, when Koba drags himself out of the rubble and sees Caesar still alive, he quietly approaches an ape trapped whimpering and gasping underneath a reel of heavy metal bits. He lifts it off of the wounded ape for a brief second, grabs the rifle the ape had been carrying, then just [[KickTheDog drops it back onto the poor ape,]] [[RevengeBeforeReason most likely sealing his fate.fate]].]]
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-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now how much like them we are.]]

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-->'''Caesar:''' [[spoiler: I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now [[NotSoDifferent how much like them we are.are]].]]

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