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** Marie, who was once a dear family member of Walt's, hates him so much that she ''can't even utter his name'', only referring to Walt as "that poisonous bastard".
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* Jimmy, Mike, and Gus begin at a somewhat high position in this series, Jimmy trying to make something of himself, Mike trying to move on from his son, and Gus acquiring a major victory over the Salamancas and for Los Pollos Hermanos, and the latter two establishing the drug empire as we saw it in ''Breaking Bad''. Anyone who's watched the [[Series/BreakingBad original series]] first [[ForegoneConclusion will already know that]] the drug empire will collapse like a house of cards when Hank eventually gets wind of it and the employees brutally killed by the Neo-Nazi prisoners, Gus will end up dead during the moment of his 'supposed' final victory over the men who took Max from him, Mike will be killed by Walt when attempting to flee the [=DEA=] and his daughter-in-law and granddaughter, and Jimmy himself will initially be widely successful as Saul Goodman, but eventually get ruined when Walt's criminal activities are exposed to the world.

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* Jimmy, Mike, and Gus begin at a somewhat high position in this series, Jimmy trying to make something of himself, Mike trying to move on from his son, and Gus acquiring a major victory over the Salamancas and for Los Pollos Hermanos, and the latter two establishing the drug empire as we saw it in ''Breaking Bad''. Anyone who's watched the [[Series/BreakingBad original series]] first [[ForegoneConclusion will already know that]] the drug empire will collapse like a house of cards when Hank eventually gets wind of it and the employees brutally killed by the Neo-Nazi prisoners, Gus will end up dead during the moment of his 'supposed' final victory over the men who took Max from him, Mike will be killed by Walt when attempting to flee the [=DEA=] and leaving his daughter-in-law and granddaughter, granddaughter with nothing since all the money he tries to leave them gets seized by law enforcement, and Jimmy himself will initially be widely successful as Saul Goodman, but eventually get ruined when Walt's criminal activities are exposed to the world.
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* Lalo's reaction to seeing Hector's crippled state for the first time. For one moment, he isn't the cold, psychopathic crime lord, but a man who looks like he's about to cry at seeing the father figure who raised him barely function anymore.

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* Lalo's reaction to seeing Hector's crippled state for the first time. For one moment, he isn't the cold, psychopathic crime lord, but a man who looks like he's about to cry at seeing the father figure who raised him barely able to function anymore.
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* Just the fact that Howard's wife is the only person to openly question the official explanation for his death. As the photos depicting him pursuing various physical activities by himself imply, Howard had no non-work friends to confide in (besides his therapist) who might have also been able to defend his good name.

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* Just the The fact that Howard's wife is the only person to openly question the official explanation for his death. As That, plus the photos depicting him pursuing various physical activities by himself imply, himself, heavily implies that Howard was even more MarriedToTheJob than Chuck was and had no non-work close friends to outside of work. Besides his therapist, there was nobody else he could confide in (besides his therapist) who might have also been able to defend his good name.reputation.

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* Lalo's reaction to seeing Hector's crippled state for the first time. For one moment, he isn't the cold, psychopathic crime lord, but a man who looks like he's about to cry at seeing the father figure who raised him barely function anymore.
-->'''Lalo (in Spanish):''' Oh God.
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* Just the fact that Howard's wife is the only person to openly question the official explanation for his death. As the photos depicting him pursuing various physical activities by himself imply, Howard had no non-work friends to confide in (besides his therapist) who might have also been able to defend his good name.
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** The way Walt treats Saul in general during the flashback. He's just a complete and utter asshole to the poor guy for no real reason, jumping down his throat for asking a simple hypothetical, blatantly insulting him to his face, and going on self-important diatribes about how superior he clearly sees himself as being. It's painfully obvious that Saul probably used to think of Walt as a friend or at least an associate, but here he gets it rubbed in his face that Walt only ever saw him as a useful tool at best and a contemptuous bottom-feeder at worst. Some of it is even evocative of how Chuck used to talk to Jimmy towards the end of his life (like demeaning his past as a con-man and skills as a lawyer), except worse since Chuck at least [[JerkassHasAPoint had salient points]] and still did genuinely love Jimmy beneath it all despite his many issues (both with himself and his brother), whereas Walt just does it to be as pointlessly cruel as possible.
** According to [[https://ew.com/tv/better-call-saul-bob-odenkirk-on-series-finale/ Odenkirk]], Saul eventually realized that he was chasing after this guy's love and affection because Walt reminded him of Chuck, making his line in "Problem Dog" ("could I at least get an attaboy?" miserable in hindsight), and he'd unintentionally recreated the bad parts of when he was a kid.
** Saul isn't the only one lying about his "greatest regret"; when pondering what his is, Walt pointedly glances uncomfortably at [[TragicKeepsake the watch Jesse gave him]] and cringes with barely-concealed horror before awkwardly segueing into his past with Gray Matter. Bear in mind, this flashback happens maybe a few days or so after Walt gave up Jesse to Jack and the neo-Nazis and, as far as Walt knows at that point, Jesse has been killed under Walt's own order. It also further contextualizes Walt's later decision to leave [[TragicKeepsake the watch]] --and his regrets -- behind on the payphone after deciding to go down in a final blaze of glory against Jack's crew whilst [[FaceDeathWithDignity righting his wrongs]] [[TheAtoner as best he can]] in "Felina".

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** The way Walt treats Saul in general during the flashback. He's just a complete and utter asshole to the poor guy for no real reason, jumping down his throat for asking a simple hypothetical, blatantly insulting him to his face, and going on self-important diatribes about how superior he clearly sees himself as being. It's painfully obvious that Saul probably used to think of Walt as a friend or at least an associate, but here he gets it rubbed in his face that Walt only ever saw him as a useful tool at best and a contemptuous bottom-feeder at worst. Some of it is even evocative of how Chuck used to talk to Jimmy towards the end of his life (like demeaning his past as a con-man and skills as a lawyer), except worse since Chuck at least [[JerkassHasAPoint had salient points]] and still did genuinely love Jimmy beneath underneath it all despite his many issues (both with himself and his brother), whereas Walt just does it to be as pointlessly cruel as possible.
** According to [[https://ew.com/tv/better-call-saul-bob-odenkirk-on-series-finale/ Odenkirk]], Saul eventually realized that he was chasing after this guy's love and affection because Walt reminded him of Chuck, making his line in "Problem Dog" ("could ("Could I at least get an attaboy?" attaboy?") miserable in hindsight), hindsight, and he'd unintentionally recreated the bad parts of when he was a kid.
** Saul isn't the only one lying about his "greatest regret"; either - when pondering what his greatest regret is, Walt pointedly glances uncomfortably at [[TragicKeepsake the watch Jesse gave him]] and cringes with barely-concealed horror before awkwardly segueing into his past with Gray Matter. Bear in mind, this flashback happens maybe a few days or so after Walt gave up Jesse to Jack and the neo-Nazis neo-Nazis, and, as far as Walt knows at that point, Jesse has probably been killed under Walt's own order. killed. It also further contextualizes Walt's later decision to leave [[TragicKeepsake the watch]] --and his regrets -- behind on the payphone after deciding to go down in a final blaze of glory against Jack's crew whilst while [[FaceDeathWithDignity righting his wrongs]] [[TheAtoner as best he can]] in "Felina".



* The pre-show flashback, right after the already painful scene of Jimmy admitting he should have tried harder with Chuck, of him picking up groceries for his brother and Chuck saying he really doesn't have to do this. Even more tragically, Chuck tries to connect and talk with Jimmy about his clients, but Jimmy is far too used to his brother looking down on him and the moment passes. It's very heavily implied that this is Jimmy's ''real'' "if I had a time machine" regret, as looking back it's obvious that [[ForWantOfANail this moment could well have been the point that set off the events of the series]] - if Jimmy and Chuck ''had'' just sat down and talked out about Jimmy's clients and his approach to the law, it's entirely possible the two could have connected properly for the first time in a while and started on the path to working out their issues, allowing Jimmy to become a great lawyer under his beloved brother's tutelage instead of Chuck continuing to sabotage Jimmy's career and Jimmy responding in kind and descending to increasingly unscrupulous means. It really stings to realize just ''how much'' everything could've gone so much better if Jimmy and Chuck had just taken that opportunity to hash things out. The scene ends with Chuck, his rivalry with Jimmy set in stone and his only companion being the lantern that he'll eventually kill himself with, slinking back into his dark and empty house.

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* The pre-show flashback, right after the already painful scene of Jimmy admitting he should have tried harder with Chuck, of him picking up groceries for his brother and Chuck saying he really doesn't have to do this. Even more tragically, Chuck tries to connect and talk with Jimmy about his clients, but Jimmy is far too used to his brother looking down on him and the moment passes. It's very heavily implied that this is Jimmy's ''real'' "if I had a time machine" regret, as looking back it's obvious that [[ForWantOfANail this moment could well have been the point that set off the events of the series]] series - if Jimmy and Chuck ''had'' just sat down and talked out about Jimmy's clients and his approach to the law, it's entirely possible the two could have connected properly for the first time in a while and started on the path to working out their issues, allowing Jimmy to become a great lawyer under his beloved brother's tutelage instead of Chuck continuing to sabotage Jimmy's career and Jimmy responding in kind and descending to increasingly unscrupulous means. It really stings to realize just ''how much'' everything could've gone so much better if Jimmy and Chuck had just taken that opportunity to hash things out. The scene ends with Chuck, his rivalry with Jimmy set in stone and his only companion being the lantern that he'll eventually kill himself with, slinking back into his dark and empty house.

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