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** In "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E14TheItchyAndScratchyAndPoochieShow The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show]]", Comic Book Guy declares the episode of ''Itchy and Scratchy'' introducing Poochie to be the worst episode ever, saying "As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me." Bart (clearly acting as an AuthorAvatar speaking to the fans who had been complaining about the show's SeasonalRot) responds with "How do they owe you? They provide you with hundreds of hours of entertainment for free. If anything you owe them." Except loyal viewers make advertising space on a show valuable, and the people who work on a show owe their success and livelihood to the money that the advertisers pay -- to say nothing of merchandise. Plus Comic Book Guy's appraisal of the episode's quality wasn't just picking nits or unreasonable complaints; it really was [[StylisticSuck a terrible episode,]] and much of the story hinges on that fact. Comic Book Guy is just the only person who's treated as wrong for saying it.

** Alice is treated as in the wrong in "Gut Instinct" because she refuses to let Gladys feed the animals in the Central Park Zoo, gived changes in diet in animals can lead to diseases spread, this is very much justified and is arguably one of the few times Alice is doing her job. However, given Alice's [[{{Jerkass}} unpleasant personality]], it's not surprising that the audience could most likely side with Gladys in this episode.

** Alice is treated as in the wrong in "Gut Instinct" because she refuses to let Gladys feed the animals in the Central Park Zoo. Given changes in diet in animals can lead to diseases spread, this is very much justified and is arguably one of the few times Alice is doing her job -- especially since Gladys doesn't even correctly identify the animals' species and natural diet in some cases, giving cat food to lemurs. However, given Alice's [[{{Jerkass}} unpleasant personality]], it's not surprising that the audience could most likely side with Gladys in this episode.
** At the end of "Operation: Big Blue Marble", Skipper blames himself for the whole Furro incident but mentions he would blame Kowalski in the official report. This is treated as a comical case of NeverMyFault by the episode, except that Kowalski is actually the most guilty part in the whole operation, given he invented the machine in the first place, dismissed the side effects of the toxic waste disposal until it started happening, refused to hear Private's observation that adding more chemicals to the bubble could make the situation worse and didn't gave any of the rockets parachutes which is why they needed a rescue in the first place. While Skipper didn't help by forcing the machine to keep going and refusing to accept the evidence that the Furros are causing damage in the environment, is hard to deny Kowalski doesn't have an equal or bigger amount of fault in the entire incident.

** Alice is treated as in the wrong in "Gut Instinct" because she refuses to let Gladys feed the animals in the Central Park Zoo, gived changes in diet in animals can lead to diseases spread, this is very much justified and is arguably one of the few times Alice is doing her job. However, given Alice's [[{{Jerkass}} unpleasant personality]], it's not surprising that the audience could most likely side with Gladys in this episode.

* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "[[Recap/GravityFallsS2E15TheLastMabelcorn The Last Mabelcorn]]", a unicorn judges [[Characters/GravityFallsMabelPines Mabel Pines]] by claiming to be able to "see into her heart" and determines that she's not pure. It is later revealed to be a lie to get humans to leave her alone, but the unicorn brings up a good argument that [[SecretlySelfish doing good deeds for the sole sake of making yourself look better is actually rather self-centered]]. The unicorn ends up being RightForTheWrongReasons, considering all the morally-questionable actions that Mabel has done over the course of the series despite her kindness -- at one point being [[WhatTheHellHero called out]] by the BigBad himself.

** Kikimora is a SmugSnake and a lackey for Belos, but she has a right to snicker when [[Characters/TheOwlHouseLilithClawthorne Lilith Clawthorne]] can't even take down an annoying house demon. Heck, Amity was able to beat up Hooty without suffering injury and Luz can punch him in the face. Even Eda says the same thing, mocking Lilith for not being able to beat her at her worst.

** In the first episode, the principal and [[Characters/TheOwlHouseCamilaNoceda Camila Noceda]] make the point that [[Characters/TheOwlHouseLuzNoceda Luz Noceda]] needs to be more normal and appreciate the difference between fantasy and reality, an idea Luz and the episode reject by declaring it's okay for people to be weird. However, Luz's brand of weirdness isn't harmless with her 'book report' resulting in several people being bitten by snakes and the subsequent episode has Luz put herself in danger because she's too invested in her TheChosenOne fantasy to notice several warning signs.

** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E8MargeVsSSCCATAG Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples, Teenagers, and Gays]] depicts the titular group as {{Child Hater}}s to parodical degrees, defunding anything marketed towards children to save tax dollars for adults who don't have them. Lindsay's argument that she shouldn't have to pay to support others' children would come across as selfish... if the episode didn't depict children in a pretty cynical matter. Even before the baby riot at the Roofi concert costs the town over a million dollars, Maggie's obsession with the singer [[IncessantMusicMadness annoys everybody in the Simpson household to the point of madness]]. When Marge uses Lisa as an example of why children are worth supporting, Bart and Maggie quickly provide a counterexample by locking the keys in the car and having puked in Marge's purse, respectively. Even the solution to the episode doesn't rely on proving that children are worth supporting -- it relies on all the kids spreading flu germs to the members of SSCCATAG due to their weakened immunity to childhood germs. Thus, even the organization's defeat supports the notion that children are generally detrimental. The only one who really cares deeply about supporting families is Marge, whose obsession with her family has been shown to come at the expense of her own mental health and self-preservation. Lindsay's stance may be extreme, but it makes sense she wouldn't understand Marge's point of view as superior based on this episode.

** The episode "Copy Machine" has Buzzcut recruit the duo to copy worksheets for the class. As one might expect, Beavis caves to temptation and [[Main/CheekCopy copies his butt]]. In the end, [=McVicker=] chews them out - yet it never occurs to him that, by all logic, Buzzcut is at fault. His orders include the line "You will ''only'' copy the worksheet! You will ''not'' copy your butts again!", implying that this has happened at least once before (along with everything they've done on camera). There's no justification for sending students who you ''know'' are incredibly unreliable and untrustworthy when you could send ''anyone else.''