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''Problem'': SelectiveMemory is a video game trope about the separation of PC and player knowledge, in that the player has to discover things the character should already know or be able to look up. But despite the warning on the page, it's often confused with in-character memories. Either for SelfServingMemory or a character having amnesia or simply omitting events the audience knows about.
With less than 50 wicks (46), all should be checked according to the guidelines, but one was a sandbox and another a dupe of another.
* 7 correct out of 44 (16%)
* 18 self-serving/twisted (41%)
* 8 amnesia or omissions (18%)

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''Problem'': SelectiveMemory is a video game trope about the separation of PC and player knowledge, in that the player has to discover things the character should already know or be able to look up. But despite the warning on the page, it's often confused with in-character memories. Either for SelfServingMemory or a character having amnesia or simply omitting events the audience knows about.about but the character should still remember.
With less than 50 wicks (46), all should be checked according to the guidelines, but one was a sandbox Sandboxes and another a dupe of another.
duplicate entry from a Pantheon page have been excluded from this check.
* 7 correct out of 44 (16%)
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* 18 self-serving/twisted (41%)
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* 8 amnesia or omissions (18%)(17%)



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* Fanfic/TheTrolleyProblem: One woman cries out how her daughter was almost killed because of the esper's energy going rogue. But Joseph thinks to himself how the daughter was saved ''because'' of another esper (Teruki).
* Recap/TheCrownS6E4Aftermath: Mohamed Fayed becomes convinced that Diana and Dodi were going to marry had they not been tragically killed in the accident. TruthInTelevision, as he made such claims in RealLife.



** UnPerson: Finn makes reference to a thirteenth space station, that was blown out of the sky by one of the others in order to convince the remaining twelve to come together to form the Ark. It's apparently not part of the official history of the Ark. Unusually, everyone on the Ark seems to be aware of it, they just '''[[SelectiveMemory ignore it]]''' to celebrate Unity Day.

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** UnPerson: Finn makes reference to a thirteenth space station, that was blown out of the sky by one of the others in order to convince the remaining twelve to come together to form the Ark. It's apparently not part of the official history of the Ark. Unusually, everyone on the Ark seems to be aware of it, they just '''[[SelectiveMemory ignore it]]''' to celebrate Unity Day. [[red: This isn't about personal memories, but about going along with the official record even if they know otherwise.]]
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A wick check for SelectiveMemory

''Problem'': SelectiveMemory is a video game trope about the separation of PC and player knowledge, in that the player has to discover things the character should already know or be able to look up. But despite the warning on the page, it's often confused with in-character memories. Either for SelfServingMemory or a character having amnesia or simply omitting events the audience knows about.
With less than 50 wicks (46), all should be checked according to the guidelines, but one was a sandbox and another a dupe of another.
* 7 correct out of 44 (16%)
* 18 self-serving/twisted (41%)
* 8 amnesia or omissions (18%)
* 4 unsorted misuse (9%)
* 7 indices/related tropes (16%)

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* GreatBigBookOfEverything: In this case, new information may even ''literally'' appear as the plot demands, the entry for each location, item, enemy, or other piece of interest only readable '''[[SelectiveMemory after you have encountered it]]'''.
* FinalFantasyIX/TropesQToZ:Tetra Master, a card game with vague rules which are not particularly explained to the player. Justified in that nobody you talk to knows the rules either, and you can only pick up the rules from people's suppositions about them. These people are otherwise avid players, but they only know about half a rule each... Fortunately, none of the rules matter much. The outcome of each game is more or less random, and the few rewards with an actual use you can get out of it are easily gotten elsewhere...including one of the very few cards you can get outside of the treasure hunt sidequest that actually has a use beyond using it in the card game itself.
** A full explanation of the rules was eventually provided...in the manual for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI''. [[red:On-page example]]
* Fridge/ResidentEvil0: The inversion of SelectiveMemory is easily explained as GameplayAndStorySegregation. Rebecca and Billy have radios they use to stay in radio contact throughout the game.
* VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura: Our hero was going from the second largest city on the continent to the largest one, but does not remember where these cities are located. All our hero has is a map which shows the major topographical features of the continent, but none of the settlements. The player character is supposedly from a different continent which makes their lack of geographical knowledge about Arcanum understandable. [[red:Variant on an on-page example.]]
* VideoGame/ResidentEvil0:
** Inverted. At one point, the player has [[LetsSplitUpGang to split Rebecca and Billy up]]. The one who goes upstairs, by using the hookshot, will find a file that hints at the combination to a locked room. It is explained how the other character gets the dial to enter the combination, which is inexplicably off, ''but not how they know about the file, let alone the password''. And that knowledge is needed for the other character to progress.
** Just before Billy has to save Rebecca from falling into a chasm. In order to unlock the door, Rebecca needs to pick up a note that says what the power settings need to be. However, when she falls into the chasm, Billy needs that note, because it hints that [[spoiler:he's got to go through the boiler room]]. So he really shouldn't know that.
* VideoGame/SamAndMaxFreelancePolice: Inverted in ''Chariot of the Dogs''. Sam and Max shouldn't be able to know about [[spoiler: Superball erasing short-term memory in response to bringing up time travel]], but it's the only way to make past Sam [[spoiler: forget why he needs the Embarrassing Idol contract]].
* VideoGame/TheInfiniteOcean: The game's protagonist is heavily implied to be either [[spoiler:SGDS or one of the scientists. In either way, they react to the messages on the walls with knowledge of the plot.]] [[red:A bit lacking in context for how it would help though.]]

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[[folder:Misused - self-serving]]
* Awesome/JeepersCreepers2: D's ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Scotty, pointing out that, even if he ''is'' right, he conveniently '''[[SelectiveMemory left his own name off]]''' the list of people the Creeper targeted, before saying that he ''hopes'' Scotty gets eaten.
* Characters/EchoesAlternateWorlds:
** Her {{Motive Rant}}s tend to leave out all of the horrible things she's done, such as her [[EvilIsPetty pettiness]], habit of turning people that criticize with her into the {{Unperson}}, and the pointless genocide she's performing just to make her life easier.
** StepfordSmiler: So good that only Mikoto knows what he's really like even Kakashi to a certain degree doesn't seem to know the real Minato, though all Kakashi show a ''very'' SelectiveMemory when Minato is involved.
** All five of them are prone to completely rewriting history in their own minds to either make themselves look better or to avoid taking responsibility for something.
*Characters/AtopTheFourthWallMainCharacters:
** TheAce: He's a nice-looking hero with wonderful toys and TrueCompanions around him... and he wants ''so'' badly to be the perfect NiceGuy superhero and to think that he's much more than his Website/ChannelAwesome co-workers. He has a [[SmallNameBigEgo fairly big ego]] and a SelectiveMemory, his number one priority seems to be whether the fans watch him or not, and his ComedicSociopathy is far creepier than the others because whereas they embrace it, he denies it. He does start to leave it behind altogether after being called out on it by [[spoiler: Aplos the Wizard]].
* Characters/DarkMatch: Noleaf can never seem to remember Murphy's name; in his mind, there is only Gunner, and Gunner's Pal.
* Characters/TheDeathMageWhoDoesntWantAFourthTimeGods: When he sees Zod on Van's side, he calls out the latter "for siding with Vida after she's gone insane and serving a 'Demon King'," ignoring that Alda's forces attacked Zod first. [[red: originally filed under MoralMyopia]]
* Characters/HayateTheCombatButler: During her second appearance, she chooses to remember her failed confession as an honorable, graceful defeat and not Hayate turning her down with an awful joke.
* Characters/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDeviceTheImperialPalace:
** {{Irony}}: He knows his father's greatest weakness is the Emperor's ego. Totally blind to this weakness in himself, '''[[SelectiveMemory except when he's using it to point out the Emperor's arrogance.]]'''
* Characters/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphiaTheGang: All five of them are prone to completely rewriting history in their own minds to either make themselves look better or to avoid taking responsibility for something.
* {{Characters/Kickassia}}:
** TheHero: Subverted. In the videos he made following ''Kickassia'', he portrays himself as one; calling himself "the liberator of Kickassia". Two things, however: first that a SelectiveMemory is in-character for Linkara, and second, that while technically he helped liberate ''Kickassia'' from the Critic, he was still part of a group that invaded ''Molossia'' for no reason and took it over from its rightful ruler.
* Characters/TheWitcherGeraltsOtherFriendsLoversAndAllies: Roach has no memory of ever bucking off Geralt during combat.
*Fanfic/{{Echoes}}:
** DysfunctionJunction: The Arashi clan. Full stop. They're like a DarkerAndEdgier version of the [[Manga/OnePiece Straw Hat Pirates]]. Every one of them has some sort of psychological trauma, suffers from some sort of psychological problem or has a DarkAndTroubledPast. See TheWoobie for details.
*** Note: Kuebiko doesn't count because he isn't part of the Arashi clan. He's just helping them because he's a NiceGuy. Though he is somewhat bigoted and has a very SelectiveMemory when his brothers dickier moves come up or the flaws in the Will of Fire.
* Film/TheIronLady: Maggie's are definitely slanted in her favor.
* Funny/CrashTwinsanity: '''Cortex''': I was eight years old and [[BlatantLies the most popular student in the academy.]] Ah, yes... (a student ''throws a knife at him'' offscreen that ''barely'' misses his head) '''[[SelectiveMemory how they loved me.]]'''
* HIMYM/TropesSeasonFour: In "Murtaugh", the basketball team that Marshall was coaching (and that Lily had forbidden him from pushing to actually play to win) loses by over a hundred points. According to Future Ted, every time Marshall would recount the story, the opposing team would get older and taller. In the second half they even had a [[Film/TeenWolf teenwolf]] on their team!
* Pantheon/{{Entitlement}} / Pantheon/ExtrovertFlaws: A trait notable with Cardassians is their ability to discern '''[[SelectiveMemory what they have done negatively to others is positivity on their end]]''', which is exactly what they thought of their occupation of Bajor to be of.
* Recap/DannyPhantomS2E1MemoryBlank: Danny lists three times Sam got him in trouble. While the first two were indeed her fault, the third (selling his dad's stuff at a garage sale) wasn't, by any stretch -- that was entirely Danny's idea.
* Recap/GameOfThronesS6E9BattleOfTheBastards: Tyrion gleefully bullies Theon for supposedly making imp jokes the last time they met. The problem is they only had one scene together prior and Theon had in fact tried to be polite while Tyrion was the {{Jerkass}}.
* Series/StorageWars: Barry declares his $1 parlay into a $150 payoff an all-time storage auction record, seemingly forgetting his rather famous turning of $2.50 into $2000 just the season before.
[[red:As an example from a reality show, it could be a genuine memory lapse, but ignoring the past to make oneself look better makes it fit better here.]]
* Wrestling/AJLee: A lot what she says during her "Wrestling/{{Total Diva|s}} feud". Apparently they had been slacking off, getting nothing done for years until AJ Lee came along as a serious wrestler. In actuality, AJ only became known for being a "serious" wrestler not long before this feud. Prior to it her time on the main roster was defined mostly by dates and a stint as GM (as in, off the active roster) and she had been on main programing longer than half the show's cast. It almost looks like ThreeMonthRule since no one ever corrects anything she says (especially when you consider her and Kaitlyn were the first targets of Natalya's Divas of Doom team, whose primary concerns [[RecycledScript were the women they perceived not to be serious wrestlers]]).

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[[folder:Misused - memory gaps]]
* DarthWiki/WorldOfMayrin:
** FallenAngel: Eamon is a rare example of a fallen aasimar who fell before he ever was able to transform. This must have happened at some point during his childhood, but he '''[[SelectiveMemory just doesn't remember how]]'''.
* VideoGame/BungoToAlchemist: The writers reincarnated has blurry memories of certain events in their previous lifes, especially those happened around their late years. It's suggested that the stronger the writers get, the more memories they can regain.
* Characters/TheRailwaySeries: Despite being older than Stanley, and on the Mid Sodor Railway before Stanley arrived; Falcon still acts shocked when Duke recounts the story of Stanley's demise. Especially strange given that one of the illustrations in "Duke the Lost Engine" even shows Stanley in the back of the engine shed alongside Falcon (although erroneously, seeing that Stanley wouldn't be built until World War One and that particular story was set in the early 1900's). Still, its heavily implied the two engines worked alongside each other and as such Stanley's transformation into a stationary boiler should not have been news to Falcon.
* Headscratchers/ShadowOfDestiny: The human mind might not be capable of handling more than a few hundred years of memories, then again, homunculus' de-aging gave him immediate amnesia, it may just be recurring every X years. Though he does remember the museum owner as a friend, so he does have at least some long term memomory of recent years. Then again, there's endings where the good doctor dies, so his past may be as in flux as his future. In the end, it's a case of SelectiveMemory.
* Quotes/KleptomaniacHero:
->''If "{{Adventure Game}}s" were a medical condition, the first symptom would be '''[[SelectiveMemory amnesia]]''' and the second would be kleptomania.''
-->-- '''Yahtzee''' reviewing ''VideoGame/AmnesiaTheDarkDescent'', ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''
**[[red:I was going to give this the benefit of the doubt, as in the player being the one who doesn't know anything about the setting and goes around stealing everything, but in an adventure game, the latter usually isn't optional and the protagonist of this one really is amnesiac.]]
* Recap/SpongeBobSquarePantsS8E17AreYouHappyNowPlanetOfTheJellyfish: Depression can affect memory and perception, making it impossible not only to feel happy but to comprehend that anything can bring happiness. Squidward's definitely had happy memories before (“Band Geeks,” "Love That Squid," "Enchanted Tiki Dreams," etc.), but his inability to recall any of them is tragically consistent with the depression he's clearly going through. Then again, this might just be NegativeContinuity.
* WMG/MyImmortal: The symptoms of bipolar disorder, according to this [[http://www.healthline.com/adamcontent/bipolar-disorder?utm_medium=ask&utm_source=smart&utm_campaign=article&utm_term=Bipolar+Disorder&ask_return=Bipolar+Disorder Healthline website]] include: [[MoodSwinger Mood Swings]]; [while in the manic state:] [[SmallNameBigEgo inflated]] [[AttentionWhore self-esteem]], lack of self-control, [[HairTriggerTemper poor temper control]], [[LeeroyJenkins reckless behaviour]] {i.e. [[FearlessFool impaired judgement]], [[BeAWhoreToGetYourMan sexual]] [[MyGirlIsASlut promiscuity]]}; [while in the [[TheEeyore depressive]] state:] [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny difficulty concentrating]], '''[[SelectiveMemory remembering]]''', or making decisions, [[NietzscheWannabe feelings of worthlessness]], persistent [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant thoughts of death]], and [[DeathSeeker suicidal]] thoughts.
* Fanfic/WanderingOfASwordHero:
** TheTalk: [[spoiler:Keel, due to being RaisedAsTheOppositeGender,]] had to be explained the differences between boys and girls by ''[[LovableSexManiac Sadeena]]'', of all people. It gave them a ThousandYardStare that lasted around five minutes before apparently managing to [[BrainBleach purge]] '''[[SelectiveMemory the memory]]''' out of their brain.

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*Characters/BojackHorsemanMainCharacters:
** UnfazedEveryman: Despite being an AudienceSurrogate in the way of Hollywoo epic scale eccentricities, Diane is otherwise calm and straight-faced in absurd situations like [[spoiler: a lemur catching on fire in "[[Recap/BojackHorsemanS1E03PricklyMuffin Prickly Muffin]]"]] or the fact that she's dating an anthropomorphic Labrador. Varying from episode to episode go from a [[SelectiveMemory selective]] WeirdnessCensor or a harsh case of ScullySyndrome.
* Fanfic/FanficTheater3015:
** RageBreakingPoint: Part 4 of the fic had [=SC276=] go absolutely ''ballistic'' when [[spoiler:Peter, the [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] prankster, sings [[VideoGame/AlanWake "The Poet and The Muse"]], '''[[SelectiveMemory skipping almost all instances of the chorus]]''', and everyone treats it as a sad heartfelt thing]], to the point that his reaction to [[spoiler:Peter's backstory]] is to immediately [[TimeTravel Page Down]] for the first time in over a ''year and a half''.
[[red: Does the chorus contain something that would change the meaning of the song? And does the song actually tell the character's past?]]
*Recap/The100S01E09
** UnPerson: Finn makes reference to a thirteenth space station, that was blown out of the sky by one of the others in order to convince the remaining twelve to come together to form the Ark. It's apparently not part of the official history of the Ark. Unusually, everyone on the Ark seems to be aware of it, they just '''[[SelectiveMemory ignore it]]''' to celebrate Unity Day.
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[[folder:Indices and related tropes]]
* AmnesiacHero: Compare YouWakeUpInARoom, SelectiveMemory, FakeMemories and IAmWho. [[red:I don't like this because the other tropes are about a character having faulty memories.]]
* FakeDifficulty: When the player is denied information that the actual character should have.
* GameplayGuidedAmnesia: Also see SelectiveMemory, TellMeAgain, AsYouKnow.
* MemoryTropes: When the PlayerCharacter has important information the player has no access to.
* It/ElencoProvvisorioS
* Laconic/SelectiveMemory: Laconic/PlayerCharacter has important information the player has no access to.
* TimeImmemorial/TropesOToS
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