History RuinedFOREVER / AnimeAndManga

* Apparently Season 2 of ''Anime/TheMysteriousCitiesOfGold'' is ruined forever, because heaven forbid, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1hQrGlaoU they used CGI to animate it]], [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1JTLkSZr0 instead of animating it in the exact same manner that they did 30 years ago]]. Never mind the fact that they managed to find the majority of the original voice actors from the original, and that the original story was so good that they are able to do a '''"season 2" with the original premise, 30 years later''', ''as opposed to having to do a complete reboot'' to explain away old shame, bad writing, stupid episodes, people not doing the research earlier (you know, like ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats'', ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}'', and every other '80s cartoon revival since then have had to in order to have any semblance of viewability today). Never mind that they were able to keep the same musical atmosphere of the show, except for updating the instruments and cleaning up the background. It also sucks that everyone looks almost virtually like they did in 1982, except for those pesky faint hatch marks and edges that you could see if you looked hard enough: how dare Blue Spirit Animation even think about cleaning up the animation, adding camera shots that have been in use for animation for 20 years, and generally standardizing the drawing across the board!!! Anyone want to bet that [=MCoG=] would still be ruined for these people if the creators recast everyone, did a bunch of {{race lift}}s, changed the theme song, and generally updated it like so many "fans" seem to be demanding?

* Many members of the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[FaceHeelTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character moment [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness which causes every established moral and theme in the main series to be destroyed.]] Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* Many members of the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[FaceHeelTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character moment [[OOCIsASeriousBusiness which causes every established moral and theme in the main series to be destroyed.]] Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* Many members of the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[FaceHeelTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character. Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* The dub used "OMNI-DIRECTIONAL GEAR" instead of [[AttackOnTitan "3-D MANEUVER GEAR"?]] RUINED FOREVER!!!1

** Some Team Rocket fans claimed the trio was ruined FOREVER!! when Jessie and James were given black uniforms and a serious promotion, along with a new serious-business attitude. In reality, they were made {{Badass}} and much more awesome, especially since Team Rocket had [[OverusedRunningGag stopped being funny years ago]].

* ''{{Naruto}}'': Most commonly Sasuke [[SpotlightStealingSquad being the focus of an entire arc]] (especially the part about [[spoiler:[[ShockingSwerve Itachi being a good guy]]]]). Honestly, it has such an UnpleasableFanbase you can find someone that thinks the series JumpedTheShark at any moment, usually in the form of "(Character X) [[OutOfFocus hasn't done anything in months]], it's ruined!" Additionally, there's also a segment of the fandom that has said the TimeSkip was when they stopped liking it, [[SelectiveObliviousness even if most of what they're complaining about didn't happen until quite a while after or had been happening for a while before the time skip itself]] and they more or less seem to just be trying to focus their scorn on something important.
** The [[spoiler: instant revival of everyone who died during the Invasion of Pain Arc pissed off many fans. Of course, the fans were also pissed when everyone died so now they're thought of as unpleasable.]]
** The announcement that ''{{Naruto}} Shippuden'' would air on {{Disney XD}} has obviously not been taken well in certain parts of its [[FanDumb fandom]]. Despite the fact that Creator/VizMedia will still be releasing uncut [=DVDs=], so even if it does turn out to be a {{Macekre}} there won't be that much reason to complain. As can be seen with Marvel, just being associated with Disney is prone to bring in the ruins.

* Many members of the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica'' fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[FaceHeelTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character. Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* Many members of the [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]] fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[FaceHeelTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character. Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* Many members of the [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]] fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[HeelFaceTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character. Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

* Many members of the [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica ''Madoka Magica'']] fanbase expressed dismay when [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the third film]] was released, due to [[HeelFaceTurn a certain character's actions]], regarding them as out-of-character. Whether or not these criticisms are justified is up to the viewer.

** And in 2014, when the policy on Ash is that he's NotAllowedToGrowUp, the series will get a character that is "somehow" [[RememberTheNewGuy connected to his past]]. Tread lightly writers, [[{{Retcon}} tread]] ''[[FirstGirlAfterAll ligh]][[ShipToShipCombat tly]]''.

* Apparently Season 2 of ''Anime/TheMysteriousCitiesOfGold'' is ruined forever, because heaven forbid, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1hQrGlaoU they used CGI to animate it]], [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1JTLkSZr0 instead of animating it in the exact same manner that they did 30 years ago]]. Never mind the fact that they managed to find the majority of the original voice actors from the original, and that the original story was so good that they are able to do a '''"season 2" with the original premise, 30 years later''', ''as opposed to having to do a complete reboot'' to explain away old shame, bad writing, stupid episodes, people not doing the research earlier (you know, like ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats'', ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}'', and every other '80s cartoon revival since then have had to in order to have any semblance of viewability today). Never mind that they were able to keep the same musical atmosphere of the show, except for updating the instruments and cleaning up the background. It also sucks that everyone looks almost virtually like they did in 1982, except for those pesky faint hatch marks and edges that you could see if you looked hard enough: how dare Blue Spirit Animation even think about cleaning up the animation, adding camera shots that have been in use for animation for 20 years, and generally standardizing the drawing across the board!!! Anyone want to bet that [=MCoG=] would still be ruined for these people if the creators recast everyone, did a bunch of {{race lift}}s, changed the theme song, and generally updated it like so many "fans" seem to be demanding?

** Having the [[spoiler:replacement arc for Team Plasma]] ''follow'' the TournamentArc? Stuffing all your {{Filler}} in the last 5 months of the generation? I'm not too sure about this...

* Apparently Season 2 of ''Anime/TheMysteriousCitiesOfGold'' is ruined forever, because heaven forbid, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1hQrGlaoU they used CGI to animate it]], [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1JTLkSZr0 instead of animating it in the exact same manner that they did 30 years ago]]. Never mind the fact that they managed to find the majority of the original voice actors from the original, and that the original story was so good that they are able to do a '''"season 2" with the original premise, 30 years later''', ''as opposed to having to do a complete reboot'' to explain away old shame, bad writing, stupid episodes, people not doing the research earlier (you know, like WesternAnimation/ThunderCats, Anime/{{Voltron}}, WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse, WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}, and every other '80s cartoon revival since then have had to in order to have any semblance of viewability today). Never mind that they were able to keep the same musical atmosphere of the show, except for updating the instruments and cleaning up the background. It also sucks that everyone looks almost virtually like they did in 1982, except for those pesky faint hatch marks and edges that you could see if you looked hard enough: how dare Blue Spirit Animation even think about cleaning up the animation, adding camera shots that have been in use for animation for 20 years, and generally standardizing the drawing across the board!!! Anyone want to bet that [=MCoG=] would still be ruined for these people if the creators recast everyone, did a bunch of {{race lift}}s, changed the theme song, and generally updated it like so many "fans" seem to be demanding?

* Apparently Season 2 of ''Anime/TheMysteriousCitiesOfGold'' is ruined forever, because heaven forbid, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1hQrGlaoU they used CGI to animate it]], [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1JTLkSZr0 instead of animating it in the exact same manner that they did 30 years ago]]. Never mind the fact that they managed to find the majority of the original voice actors from the original, and that the original story was so good that they are able to do a '''"season 2" with the original premise, 30 years later''', ''as opposed to having to do a complete reboot'' to explain away old shame, bad writing, stupid episodes, people not doing the research earlier (you know, like WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}}, WesternAnimation/{{Voltron}}, WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse, WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}, and every other 80's cartoon revival since then have had to in order to have any semblance of viewability today). Never mind that they were able to keep the same musical atmosphere of the show, except for updating the instruments and cleaning up the background. It also sucks that everyone looks almost virtually like they did in 1982, except for those pesky faint hatch marks and edges that you could see if you looked hard enough: how dare Blue Spirit Animation even think about cleaning up the animation, adding camera shots that have been in use for animation for 20 years, and generally standardizing the drawing across the board!!! Anyone want to bet that [=MCoG=] would still be ruined for these people if the creators recast everyone, did a bunch of {{race lift}}s, changed the theme song, and generally updated it like so many "fans" seem to be demanding?

** Then there's - "[[spoiler:Sai told Sakura Naruto loves her... WHAT ABOUT HINATA?!?]]"

*** Tomino only made the original series for younger generations (a la kids), whereas every other series that followed (including ''ZZ'' surprisingly enough) was definitely marketed toward the young adult and above crowd. Just compare how people died in ''MobileSuitGundam'' to how people died in ''Zeta Gundam'', the latter (much darker) half of ''ZZ'', ''MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'', ''MobileSuitGundamF91'' and ''MobileSuitVGundam''. The latter line of ''Gundam'' series would be pure NightmareFuel for kids.

*** Tomino only made the original series for younger generations (a la kids), whereas every other series that followed (including ''ZZ'' surprisingly enough) was definitely marketed toward the young adult and above crowd. Just compare how people died in ''MobileSuitGundam'' to how people died in ''Zeta Gundam'', the latter (much darker) half of ''ZZ'', ''MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'', ''MobileSuitGundamF91'' and ''MobileSuitVictory Gundam''. The latter line of ''Gundam'' series would be pure NightmareFuel for kids.

*** Tomino only made the original series for younger generations (a la kids), whereas every other series that followed (including ''ZZ'' surprisingly enough) was definitely marketed toward the young adult and above crowd. Just compare how people died in ''MobileSuitGundam'' to how people died in ''Zeta Gundam'', the latter (much darker) half of ''ZZ'', ''Char's Counterattack'', ''F91'' and ''Victory Gundam''; the latter series would be pure NightmareFuel for kids.
** Even for the fans, ''GundamAGE'' generation 3 ruined the series forever thanks to the inconsistant plot and the poor attempt to deconstruct the TechnicalPacifist trope. [[SarcasmMode Thank you very much, Vegans and Kio Asuno.]]
** According to some fans, ''MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' utterly destroyed the ''MobileSuitGundamSEED'' fandom. So much so, that these fans will go so far as to pretend it didn't even happen lest ''SEED'''s reputation not be salvaged.
** ''MobileSuitGundamWing'' was this for [[FanDumb "veteran" Gundam fans]] (i.e. UC elitists) when it came to the US. Holy crap, a ''Gundam'' series with pretty boys in mobile suits[[note]]As if that has never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]], all talking about war and peace and nonsensical political intrigue and shit[[note]]As if that ''also'' has never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]]!? And it's ''not'' [[AndThatsTerrible set in the Universal Century nor directed by Tomino!?]] [[BerserkButton And worse, people actually LIKE IT!!?]] Char help us!!
** Depending on who you ask, ''00'' was either ruined forever in its first season (''FullMetalPanic'' with Gundams), in its second season (the ''Zeta Gundam'' rehash) or in its movie. To summarize, ''00'' was ruined forever because it either 1.) diverted from traditional ''Gundam'' storytelling, 2.) reverted to traditional ''Gundam'' storytelling or 3.) [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking was invaded by an army of T-1000s]]. And then there's the crowd who found ''00'''s writing shoddy throughout...
** Much to the continued amusement of this troper, ''TurnAGundam'' was considered ''Gundam'''s embodiment of this trope back in the day. A ''Gundam'' series that focuses on character development and slice of life qualities as opposed to giant robots fighting each other and people dying in gruesome and unlikely ways!? Say it isn't so!
*** Of course, the sad part is the fanbase ''didn't'' accept ''Turn A'' based on its own qualities (which are considerable), but rather because it was the last full ''Gundam'' series directed by Tomino himself. In ''Gundam'', if it's directed by Tomino, it's sacred, and as for ''ZZ'', that was [[SarcasmMode obviously]] written under excessive ExecutiveMeddling, because there's no way Tomino would ever write a [[GarzeysWing bad series]].

** ''MobileSuitGundamWing'' was this for [[FanDumb "veteran" Gundam fans]] (i.e. UC elitists) when it came to the US. Holy crap, a ''Gundam'' series with pretty boys in mobile suits[[note]]As if that never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]], all talking about war and peace and nonsensical political intrigue and shit[[note]]As if that ''also'' never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]]!? And it's ''not'' [[AndThatsTerrible set in the Universal Century nor directed by Tomino!?]] [[BerserkButton And worse, people actually LIKE IT!!?]] Char help us!!

** ''MobileSuitGundamWing'' was this for [[FanDumb "veteran" Gundam fans]] (i.e. UC elitists) when it came to the US. Holy crap, a ''Gundam'' series with pretty boys in mobile suits[[note]]as if that never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]], all talking about war and peace and nonsensical political intrigue and shit[[note]]As if that ''also'' never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]]!? And it's ''not'' [[AndThatsTerrible set in the Universal Century nor directed by Tomino!?]] [[BerserkButton And worse, people actually LIKE IT!!?]] Char help us!!

** ''MobileSuitGundamWing'' was this for [[FanDumb "veteran" Gundam fans]] (i.e. UC fans) when it came to the US. Holy crap, a ''Gundam'' series with pretty boys in mobile suits[[note]]as if that never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]], all talking about war and peace and nonsensical political intrigue and shit[[note]]As if that ''also'' never happened in ''Gundam'' before[[/note]]!? And it's ''not'' [[AndThatsTerrible set in the Universal Century nor directed by Tomino!?]] [[BerserkButton And worse, people actually LIKE IT!!?]] Char help us!!

** Depending on who you ask, ''00'' was either ruined forever in its first season (''FullMetalPanic'' with Gundams), in its second season (the ''Zeta Gundam'' rehash) or in its movie. To summarize, ''00'' was ruined forever because it either 1.) diverted from traditional ''Gundam'' storytelling, 2.) reverted to traditional ''Gundam'' storytelling or 3.) [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking was invaded by an army of T-1000 expies]]. And then there's the crowd who found ''00'''s writing shoddy throughout...