Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
** Martin Prince is shown dressed as ''Theatre/ The Phantom of the Opera'', even though he was at fat camp until the rebellion.
to:
** Martin Prince is shown dressed as ''Theatre/ The ''Theatre/The Phantom of the Opera'', even though he was at fat camp until the rebellion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Martin Prince is shown dressed as ''Theatre/ The Phantom of the Opera'', even though he was at fat camp until the rebellion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
That's clearly a violation of Repair Dont Respond, and the example it's trying to "correct" was referring to Nelson, not Martin.
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
** Nelson is seen coming off the bus in this episode, despite not being a camper in the original episode.[[note]]That’s not actually true. Martin was on the bus that went there as he went to to the adjacent Krusty Fat camp. Sung the Kamp Krusty song and participated in the rebellion. [[/note]]
to:
** Nelson is seen coming off the bus in this episode, despite not being a camper in the original episode.[[note]]That’s not actually true. Martin was on the bus that went there as he went to to the adjacent Krusty Fat camp. Sung the Kamp Krusty song and participated in the rebellion. [[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
** Nelson is seen coming off the bus in this episode, despite not being a camper in the original episode.
to:
** Nelson is seen coming off the bus in this episode, despite not being a camper in the original episode.[[note]]That’s not actually true. Martin was on the bus that went there as he went to to the adjacent Krusty Fat camp. Sung the Kamp Krusty song and participated in the rebellion. [[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 16,18 (click to see context) from:
** Most importantly, the slave labor, cruelty, and starvation the campers went through is never mentioned. Any memories of the camp are to things that never happened in the original episode, and were not really cruel except in a hyperbolic satirical way. For example, instead of Lisa saying they were fed gruel and made wallets, she brings up how they were shown the Parent Trap or were forced to watch the the camp production of Phantom of the Opera.
to:
** Most importantly, the slave labor, cruelty, and starvation the campers went through is never mentioned. Any memories of the camp are to things that never happened in the original episode, and were not really cruel except in a hyperbolic satirical way. For example, instead of Lisa saying they were fed gruel and made wallets, she brings up how they were shown the Parent Trap or were forced to watch the the camp production of Phantom of the Opera.
Opera.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
to:
* RetroactiveContinuity: {{Retcon}}: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24 (click to see context) from:
** Lisa tells counselors that one of the many tortures they had to endure at Kamp Krusty was watching ''Film/TheParentTrap'' every night.
to:
** Lisa tells counselors that one of the many tortures they had to endure at Kamp Krusty was watching ''Film/TheParentTrap'' every night.night.
* WeWantOurJerkBack / StatusQuoIsGod: Homer's "brain" workers: "Everybody down below the belt! ''We will not be coming back!''"
* WeWantOurJerkBack / StatusQuoIsGod: Homer's "brain" workers: "Everybody down below the belt! ''We will not be coming back!''"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** Memories of the camp given by the kids are more about nightmarish situations and generic malaise...instead of the slave labor and horrific living conditions.
to:
** Memories of the camp given by the The kids are more about nightmarish situations seen canoeing in a flashback, and generic malaise...instead of it becomes important later, but a scene in the slave labor and horrific living conditions.original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
Changed line(s) 15,16 (click to see context) from:
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though he was clearly not present at the camp in the original episode.
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
to:
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though he was clearly not present at the camp in the original episode.
episode, nor would there have been any reason for him to be there.
**The kids Most importantly, the slave labor, cruelty, and starvation the campers went through is never mentioned. Any memories of the camp are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene to things that never happened in the original shows episode, and were not really cruel except in a hyperbolic satirical way. For example, instead of Lisa saying they were fed gruel and made wallets, she brings up how they were shown the rivers too dangerous Parent Trap or were forced to canoe.watch the the camp production of Phantom of the Opera.
**
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4 (1992-1993), Itchy and Scratchy has a ''Series/DancingWithTheStars'' parody (which didn't air until 2005), and characters based on the Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' (which was released in 2010) appear in a theme park. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes things rather confusing.
to:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the this episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4 (1992-1993), Itchy and Scratchy has a ''Series/DancingWithTheStars'' parody (which didn't air until 2005), and characters based on the Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' (which was released in 2010) appear in a theme park. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes things rather confusing.confusing, especially since the original episode made explicit references to Princess Diana and early 90s tennis players.
Changed line(s) 6 (click to see context) from:
* GhostInTheMachine: Homer's brain is depicted as a steam engine ran by Homer clones.
to:
* GhostInTheMachine: Homer's brain is depicted as a steam engine ran run by Homer clones.
Added DiffLines:
** Memories of the camp given by the kids are more about nightmarish situations and generic malaise...instead of the slave labor and horrific living conditions.
Added DiffLines:
* SequelHook: Played with. A caption at the end of the episode says the story will be continued in "Kamp Krustiest" in the 52nd season. Unless the show DOES last that long and it is made...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FlowersForAlgernonSyndrome: Due to the traumatized kids interrupting his sex life, Homer decides to go to work early and finds that without the distraction of sex, he's become a more efficient worker. Eventually, however, Marge begins to [[WeWantOurJerkBack miss the old Homer]], who may have not been as smart and ambitious, but was certainly better in bed.
Added DiffLines:
* ARareSentence: Unable to have morning sex, Homer does the unthinkable: he goes to work early. This gets a DramaticGasp from Marge.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 5 (click to see context) :
** Of course, given the other continuity errors in this episode, it is possible that TheyJustDidntCare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
** Marge and Homer are shocked to see their children so shaken...even though they already saw the news report about the camp being taken over by Bart.
to:
** Marge and Homer are shocked to see their children so shaken...act as though the rebellion never happened...even though they already saw the news report about the camp being taken over by Bart.
Added DiffLines:
** Nelson is seen coming off the bus in this episode, despite not being a camper in the original episode.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* CerebusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the episode never took it TOO seriously, to the point you would expect major psychological scarring. Also, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
to:
* CerebusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the episode never took it TOO seriously, at least not to the point you would expect major psychological scarring. Also, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* CerebusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
to:
* CerebusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the episode never took it TOO seriously, to the point you would expect major psychological scarring. Also, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 12 (click to see context) from:
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though Krusty, or anyone affiliated, was not running the camp at the time.
to:
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though Krusty, or anyone affiliated, he was clearly not running present at the camp at in the time.original episode.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 7,8 (click to see context) from:
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have
at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
to:
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have
have at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a ''Series/DancingWithTheStars'' parody, and characters based on the Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' appear in a theme park. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes things rather confusing.
to:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, 4 (1992-1993), Itchy and Scratchy has a ''Series/DancingWithTheStars'' parody, parody (which didn't air until 2005), and characters based on the Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' (which was released in 2010) appear in a theme park. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes things rather confusing.
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
to:
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have have
at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* CerberusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
to:
* CerberusRetcon: CerebusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* CeberusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
to:
* CeberusRetcon: CerberusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.intended.
** Of course, given the other continuity errors in this episode, it is possible that TheyJustDidntCare.
** Of course, given the other continuity errors in this episode, it is possible that TheyJustDidntCare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CeberusRetcon: Somewhat downplayed. While the camp in the original episode is shown to give horrific treatment to campers and have terrible living conditions, the rebellion is portrayed as justified catharsis and a relieving change of pace from the nightmare that was the camp. And once Krusty comes and saves the day, this just seems more like an experience that the kids would remember, but succeed in the end. The idea the events would come back to haunt them was almost definitely never intended.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with the Stars parody. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing rather confusing.
to:
* AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with ''Series/DancingWithTheStars'' parody, and characters based on the Stars parody. Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' appear in a theme park. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing things rather confusing.confusing.
* GhostInTheMachine: Homer's brain is depicted as a steam engine ran by Homer clones.
* GhostInTheMachine: Homer's brain is depicted as a steam engine ran by Homer clones.
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
to:
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.canoe.
* SequelEpisode: To "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS4E1KampKrusty Kamp Krusty]]".
* ShoutOut:
** The marriage counselors Homer and Marge go see are based on the main characters of ''Series/MastersOfSex'', and are even played by the same actors.
** Homer spoofs the chocolate conveyor belt scene from ''Series/ILoveLucy''.
** Lisa tells counselors that one of the many tortures they had to endure at Kamp Krusty was watching ''Film/TheParentTrap'' every night.
* SequelEpisode: To "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS4E1KampKrusty Kamp Krusty]]".
* ShoutOut:
** The marriage counselors Homer and Marge go see are based on the main characters of ''Series/MastersOfSex'', and are even played by the same actors.
** Homer spoofs the chocolate conveyor belt scene from ''Series/ILoveLucy''.
** Lisa tells counselors that one of the many tortures they had to endure at Kamp Krusty was watching ''Film/TheParentTrap'' every night.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) :
The heavily hyped sequel nobody asked for.
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
* Anachronism Stew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with the Stars parody. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing rather confusing.
to:
* Anachronism Stew: AnachronismStew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with the Stars parody. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing rather confusing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel ([RetroactiveContinuity debatably])
to:
The heavily hyped sequel nobody asked for.
!!This episode contains examples of:
* Anachronism Stew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with the Stars parody. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing rather confusing.
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel([RetroactiveContinuity debatably])this episode even is. Despite having the same writer as the original episode, it does not show. We cannot expect a writer to remember every detail about a previous work, especially from almost a quarter-century later, but we would have expected him to have at least ''watched'' the original episode before doing a sequel.
** To start, there is a HappyEndingOverride...in the original, Krusty saves the campers (despite their suffering coming from his own negligence) and takes them to Tijuana, and all is forgiven and forgotten...until this episode. In this episode, the kids are finally returned, but they are scarred and shaken, as if the trip to Tijuana never happened.
** Marge and Homer are shocked to see their children so shaken...even though they already saw the news report about the camp being taken over by Bart.
** Jimbo, Dolph, and Kearney are seen rebelling against the camp, even though they were the counselors against whom the campers were rebelling.
** Mr. Black is nowhere to be seen or even mentioned, despite being the cause of all of it.
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though Krusty, or anyone affiliated, was not running the camp at the time.
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
!!This episode contains examples of:
* Anachronism Stew: Despite the episode explicitly claiming this episode takes place back in Season 4, Itchy and Scratchy has a Dancing with the Stars parody. While the Simpsons do exist in a FloatingTimeline, this just makes thing rather confusing.
* RetroactiveContinuity: And ''how''. This episode contains so many inexplicable changes from the source material that it is heavily debatable how much of a sequel
** To start, there is a HappyEndingOverride...in the original, Krusty saves the campers (despite their suffering coming from his own negligence) and takes them to Tijuana, and all is forgiven and forgotten...until this episode. In this episode, the kids are finally returned, but they are scarred and shaken, as if the trip to Tijuana never happened.
** Marge and Homer are shocked to see their children so shaken...even though they already saw the news report about the camp being taken over by Bart.
** Jimbo, Dolph, and Kearney are seen rebelling against the camp, even though they were the counselors against whom the campers were rebelling.
** Mr. Black is nowhere to be seen or even mentioned, despite being the cause of all of it.
** Sideshow Mel was seen in a camp flashback, even though Krusty, or anyone affiliated, was not running the camp at the time.
** The kids are seen canoeing in a flashback, and it becomes important later, but a scene in the original shows the rivers too dangerous to canoe.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel (RetroactiveContinuity debatably)
to:
This episode is a sequel (RetroactiveContinuity debatably)([RetroactiveContinuity debatably])
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel (Retcon debatably)
to:
This episode is a sequel (Retcon (RetroactiveContinuity debatably)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon debatably])
to:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon debatably])(Retcon debatably)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon|debatably])
to:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon|debatably])([Retcon debatably])
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon|debatably)
to:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon|debatably)([Retcon|debatably])
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
This episode is a sequel ([Retcon|debatably)
