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* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.benevolent and wants to restore the timeline, albeit for selfish reasons.
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** When Joe and Wally tells Barry that iris is "persona non grata" on the West household after "restoring" the timeline.
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** When Joe and Wally tells Barry that iris Iris is "persona non grata" on the West household after "restoring" the timeline.
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* AdaptationalBadass: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Barry lost his SuperSpeed and HealingFactor. Here, he retains them.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
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* AdaptationalBadass: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Barry lost his SuperSpeed and HealingFactor. Here, he retains them.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original
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* AdaptationalBadass: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Barry lost his SuperSpeed and HealingFactor. Here, he retains them.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
* AdaptedOut: A large number of characters present on the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline are not present here. Justified since most of them aren't in the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}. Also, [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Two]] [[ComicBook/LoisLane key]] characters [[Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} live in another universe from this one]].
* AlternateTimeline: The entire episode takes place in one, dubbed by Eobard Thawne as "Flashpoint".
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline, Eobard is an asshole like always. Here, he is more benevolent.
* AdaptedOut: A large number of characters present on the original ''ComicBook{{Flashpoint}}'' storyline are not present here. Justified since most of them aren't in the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}. Also, [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Two]] [[ComicBook/LoisLane key]] characters [[Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} live in another universe from this one]].
* AlternateTimeline: The entire episode takes place in one, dubbed by Eobard Thawne as "Flashpoint".
* ForWantOfANail: The entire episode is centered on the changes that Barry made because of him time traveling.
* FromBadToWorse: After "fixing" the timeline, Barry's parents are still dead but Iris is no longer part of his life. Her relationship with her family is also in bad shape.
* FromBadToWorse: After "fixing" the timeline, Barry's parents are still dead but Iris is no longer part of his life. Her relationship with her family is also in bad shape.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive time travel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions were the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive time travel TimeTravel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions were the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.
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** Wally's origin as the Flash in the Flashpoint timeline is actually closer to Barry's traditional comic-book origins - he was struck by lightning and exposed to chemicals (the difference being that he was in a race-car as opposed to a lab).
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** Wally's origin as the Flash in the Flashpoint timeline is actually closer to Barry's traditional comic-book origins - he was struck by lightning and exposed to chemicals (the difference being that he was in a race-car as opposed to a lab). Speaking of which, the race-car SuperheroOrigin story is very similar to Daniel West's ''superevillain'' origins.
* OlderThanTheyLook: Nora Allen aged really gracefully in the Flashpoint timeline.
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* TimeSkip: Barry spent three months in an alternate timeline before he realized he made a tragic mistake.
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* TimeSkip: Barry spent three months in an alternate timeline AlternateTimeline before he realized he made a tragic mistake.
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* WHAMLine: Barry is understandably in shock when Iris tells him that she completely believes his claims about ''Flashpoint''.
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* WHAMLine: VillainsNeverLie: Throughout the episode, Eobard is telling Barry the repercussions of TimeTravel. He is right.
* WHAMLine:
** Barry is understandably in shock when Iris tells him that she completely believes his claims about''Flashpoint''.''Flashpoint''.
** When Joe and Wally tells Barry that iris is "persona non grata" on the West household after "restoring" the timeline.
* WHAMLine:
** Barry is understandably in shock when Iris tells him that she completely believes his claims about
** When Joe and Wally tells Barry that iris is "persona non grata" on the West household after "restoring" the timeline.
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* SomethingWeForgot: It was only when the episode is reaching its climax, and Barry reassembling Team Flash (or, at least the ''Flashpoint'' versions of them) did he realize they're one short: after a [[SuperSpeedReading quick search]] on Cisco's computer, he zooms out of STAR Labs and returns with an understandably confused Caitlin in tow.
* WHAMLine: Barry is understandably in shock when Iris tells him that she completely believes his claims about ''Flashpoint''.
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* KickTheDog: Thawne's second murder of Nora, is even more brutal than his fist.
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* KickTheDog: Thawne's second murder of Nora, is even more brutal than his fist.first.
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* ButterflyOfDoom: Barry goes back in time and saves his mom and welcome to ''Flashpoint''!
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* InSpiteOfANail: Harrison Wells has not created STAR Labs Particle Accelerator in the "Flashpoint" timeline, yet meta-humans still exist. If there was an accelerator explosion it was much more low key.
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* InSpiteOfANail: Harrison Wells has not created built the STAR Labs Particle Accelerator in the "Flashpoint" timeline, yet meta-humans still exist. If there was an accelerator explosion it was much more low key.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive time travel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions where the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive time travel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions where were the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.
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* InSpiteOfANail: There's no Harrison Wells or STAR Labs Particle Accelerator in the "Flashpoint" timeline, yet meta-humans still exist. If there was an accelerator explosion it was much more low key.
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* InSpiteOfANail: There's no Harrison Wells or has not created STAR Labs Particle Accelerator in the "Flashpoint" timeline, yet meta-humans still exist. If there was an accelerator explosion it was much more low key.
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** Joe is belligerent, lazy, and drunk who's relationship with Iris and Wally is strained.
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** Joe is belligerent, lazy, a belligerent and lazy drunk who's whose relationship with Iris and Wally is strained.
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* CrapsaccharineWorld: The "Flashpoint" timeline seems like a nice place but....
** Cisco may be a billionaire but he's cold and aloof and would rather not get involved in heroics.
** Joe is belligerent, lazy, and drunk who's relationship with Iris and Wally is strained.
** Wally may the Flash but he's proud, reckless, and inexperienced and for reasons unexplained lacks Barry's substantial healing powers.
** Cisco may be a billionaire but he's cold and aloof and would rather not get involved in heroics.
** Joe is belligerent, lazy, and drunk who's relationship with Iris and Wally is strained.
** Wally may the Flash but he's proud, reckless, and inexperienced and for reasons unexplained lacks Barry's substantial healing powers.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Thawne's criticism of Barry's actions come off rather flat thanks to his own extensive time travel shenanigans, especially since Barry's actions where the end goal of his future self's EvilPlan.
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* InSpiteOfANail: There's no Harrison Wells or STAR Labs Particle Accelerator in the "Flashpoint" timeline, yet meta-humans still exist. If there was an accelerator explosion it was much more low key.
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* KickTheDog: Thawne's second murder of Nora, is even more brutal than his fist.
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong:
** Averted, Barry stopping Thawne from killing Nora did not bring back the original timeline where he would become the Flash in 2020, but rather a whole new timeline.
** Played straight when Barry realizes he has to let Thawne kill Nora.
** Averted, Barry stopping Thawne from killing Nora did not bring back the original timeline where he would become the Flash in 2020, but rather a whole new timeline.
** Played straight when Barry realizes he has to let Thawne kill Nora.
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* LighterAndSofter: A lot more upbeat than the original Flashpoint comic. Instead of a world-ending crisis, the problems that are caused are much more personal.
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* LighterAndSofter: A lot more upbeat than the original Flashpoint comic. Instead of a world-ending crisis, crisis and a world war, the problems that are caused are much more personal.personal, and some characters are actually better off.
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If Wally got struck by lighting isn't implied there was a Particle Accelerator explosion?
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* InSpiteOfANail: Despite there being no Particle Accelerator explosion in the "Flashpoint" timeline - metahumans still exist.
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* LazyBum: In the ''Flashpoint'' timeline, Joe hates his police job and prefers dozing off in his home.
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* LazyBum: In the ''Flashpoint'' timeline, Joe hates his police job and prefers drinking & dozing off in his home.
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* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline. Unfortunately it's implied to be one of ''many'' negative changes thanks to Barry's screwuo.
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* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline. Unfortunately it's implied to be one of ''many'' negative changes thanks to Barry's screwuo.screwup.
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* TheWorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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* TheWorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before losing was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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here's something to preoccupy your time: read the ALPHABET.
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* WorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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* TheWorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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* BackFromTheDead: Thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling, Thane is no longer dead he's alive and kicking.
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* BackFromTheDead: Thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling, Thane Thawne is no longer dead he's alive and kicking.
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* TimeSkip: Barry spent three months in an alternate timeline before he realized he made a tragic mistake.
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* BackFromTheDead: Thawne thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling is no longer dead and alive and well.
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* BackFromTheDead: Thawne thanks Thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling meddling, Thane is no longer dead and he's alive and well.kicking.
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* InSpiteOfANail: Despite there being no Particle Accelerator explosion in the "Flashpoint" timeline - metahumans still exist.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Barry was so focused on Iris that he didn't notice that STAR Labs no longer exists, or what happened to his former teammates.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Barry was so focused on Iris that he didn't notice that STAR Labs no longer exists, or what happened to his former teammates.
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* BackFromTheDead: Thawne thanks to Barry's extensive time meddling is no longer dead and alive and well.
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* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline.
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* CloseEnoughTimeline: Well ''not'' close enough. For unknown reasons Iris and Joe are estranged in this new timeline. Unfortunately it's implied to be one of ''many'' negative changes thanks to Barry's screwuo.
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** In the ''Prime'' timeline, Wally asks Barry why he unknowingly upset Joe by [[YouJustHadToSayIt bringing Iris up]]. This clues Barry in about Iris and Joe's estrangement
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse:
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** In the ''Prime'' timeline, Wally asks Barry why he unknowingly upset Joe by [[YouJustHadToSayIt bringing Iris up]]. This clues Barry in about Iris and Joe's estrangement
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*WhatHappenedToTheMouse: WorfEffect: The reason Edward was even able to compete with a Barry/The Flash who has managed to level up to the point of defeating a juiced-up Hunter Zolomon/Zoom, before was because Barry was suffering from RippleEffectProofMemory, otherwise the fight would've been a lot shorter.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse:
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** Cisco tells Iris, Wally, and Barry he does not want to go up against an evil speedster and end up with a [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E15OutOfTime vibrating]] [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E13WelcomeToEarthTwo hand]] through his ribcage.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barry utters this word for word when he discovers his meddling caused Iris to be estranged from Joe.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barry utters this word for word almost verbatim when he discovers his meddling caused Iris to be estranged from Joe.
**Julio Mendez is the Captain of the CCPD in the Flashpoint timeline. Actor Alex Desert played a forensic scientist of the same name on [[Series/TheFlash1990 the original series]].
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Nothing is ever made of Harrison Wells in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline. His wife Tess is probably meant to not live long anyway before Eobard killed them, but you'd think the ''founder of STAR Labs'' would warrant at least one mention.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: WhatHappenedToTheMouse:
** Nothing is ever made of Harrison Wells in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline. His wife Tess is probably meant to not live long anyway before Eobard killed them, but you'd think the ''founder of STAR Labs'' would warrant at least onemention.mention.
**The fates of Captain Singh (who is replaced by Captain Mendes in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline) as well as other secondary characters like Ronnie Raymond and Eddie Thawne were also never revealed.
** Nothing is ever made of Harrison Wells in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline. His wife Tess is probably meant to not live long anyway before Eobard killed them, but you'd think the ''founder of STAR Labs'' would warrant at least one
**The fates of Captain Singh (who is replaced by Captain Mendes in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline) as well as other secondary characters like Ronnie Raymond and Eddie Thawne were also never revealed.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: Barry bringing up Iris unaware of her situation in the new timeline.
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** Wally's origin as the Flash in the Flashpoint timeline is actually closer to Barry's traditional comic-book origins - he was struck by lightning and exposed to chemicals (the difference being that he was in a race-car as opposed to a lab).
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* BroughtDownToNormal: Averted; in the source material, Barry has lost his powers because he messed with the timeline. Here his powers are completely intact.
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* BroughtDownToNormal: Averted; in the source material, Barry has lost his powers because he messed with the timeline. Here his powers are completely intact. This eventually becomes a major hindrance for Barry, since his powers are what's making him lose his memories of the ''Prime'' timeline.
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** In the Prime timeline, Wally asks Barry why he unknowingly upset Joe by [[YouJustHadToSayIt bringing Iris up]]. This clues Barry in about Iris and Joe's estrangement
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** In the Prime ''Prime'' timeline, Wally asks Barry why he unknowingly upset Joe by [[YouJustHadToSayIt bringing Iris up]]. This clues Barry in about Iris and Joe's estrangement
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* TimePassageBeard: Eobard Thawne has grown some stubble to indicate that he and Barry have spent quite some time in the ''Flashpoint'' timeline.
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** In the Prime timeline, Wally asks Barry why he unknowingly upset Joe by [[YouJustHadToSayIt bringing Iris up]]. This clues Barry in about Iris and Joe's estrangement
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** [[/Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives Once again]], Iris' encouragement gives Barry a HeroicSecondWind to beat the villain.
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** [[/Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives Once again]], Iris' encouragement gives Barry a HeroicSecondWind to beat the villain.
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* CallBack: The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather Wizard''.
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* CallBack: CallBack:
** The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of WeatherWizard''.Wizard''.
** [[/Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives Once again]], Iris' encouragement gives Barry a HeroicSecondWind to beat the villain.
** The fight against the Rival is a huge reference to the very first episode with the fight against Weather Wizard. It's in the same location, tornados are created and Joe shoots the villain from behind. Cisco even calls the Rival ''some kind of Weather
** [[/Recap/TheFlash2014S1E21GroddLives Once again]], Iris' encouragement gives Barry a HeroicSecondWind to beat the villain.
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We don't know why his healing powers didn't kick in, but even if it was Flashpoint's fault it's hardly breaking when Flashpoint is the reason he has ANY powers in the first place.
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** Wally is Kid Flash, but for some reason he doesn't have healing powers.
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* MagneticHero: Even in a timeline vastly different from the original, Barry is still able to bring Team Flash together due to sheer personality, even if there was some kidnapping involved, they could've just walked back out if they wanted.
