Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Recap / StarTrekDiscoveryS3E10TerraFirmaPartTwo

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

-->'''Carl:''' Back in the day, it used to be, "Sure, come on through. Just don't screw up history or you'll have to fix it." And then the Temporal Wars happened, and everyone was killing everyone else, and trying to use me to do it. It wasn't pretty.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ThisIsForEmphasisBitch:
-->''' Mirror Burnham:''' ''(to Mirror Tilly)'' Rot in hell, bitch.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EnemyMine: Apparently, Lorca has managed to convince Klingons and Romulans to ally against Georgiou. Given what Georgiou did with [=Qo'noS=], it probably didn't take a lot of convincing for the Klingons.
-->'''Georgiou''': The Klingons and Romulans despise one another.
-->'''Duggan''': Not as much as they despise you.

to:

* EnemyMine: Apparently, Duggan claims Lorca has managed to convince Klingons and Romulans to ally against Georgiou. Given what Georgiou did with [=Qo'noS=], it probably didn't take a lot of convincing for the Klingons.
Klingons assuming he's being honest.
-->'''Georgiou''': The Klingons and Romulans despise one another.
-->'''Duggan''':
another.\\
'''Duggan''':
Not as much as they despise you.



* SpotTheImposter: Played with as Mirror Saru figures out this is not "his" Emperor when she tells him the truth about the Vahar’ai on top of other actions. He openly warns her to "go back to where you're from" before anyone else discovers it and kills her, not grasping this is still this universe's Giorgiou, just changed.

to:

* SpotTheImposter: Played with as Mirror Saru figures out this is not "his" Emperor when she tells him the truth about the Vahar’ai ''va'harai'' on top of her other actions. He openly warns her to "go back to where you're from" before anyone else discovers it and kills her, not grasping this is still this universe's Giorgiou, Georgiou, just changed. changed.



* TortureTechnician: Georgiou describes Mirror Tilly as the best interrogator in the Empire. Tilly starts by throwing Mirror Burnham in an agony booth and then leaves her there, being woken up periodically to be hit again with a fresh assault.

to:

* TortureTechnician: Georgiou describes Mirror Tilly as the best interrogator in the Empire. Tilly starts by throwing Mirror Burnham in an agony booth and then leaves her there, being woken up periodically to be hit again with a fresh assault.assault, all of it fairly textbook deprivation tactics to break a person's will to resist.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SpotTheImposter: Played with as Mirror Saru figures out this is not "his" Emperor when she tells him the truth about the Vahar’ai on top of other actions. He openly warns her to "go back to where you're from" before anyone else discovers it and kills her, not grasping this is still this universe's Giorgiou, just changed.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

-->'''Georgiou''': The Klingons and Romulans despise one another.
-->'''Duggan''': Not as much as they despise you.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* KillEmAll: The Mirror version of just about every known ''Discovery'' character is dead by the end of the episode. Only Mirror Tilly, Owo and Saru are left.

to:

* KillEmAll: The Mirror version of just about every known ''Discovery'' character is dead by the end of the episode. Only Mirror Tilly, Owo Owo, Saru, and Saru Airiam are left.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: The guardian can now disguise itself, use a human avatar, allow for travel to the mirror universe and back, is mobile, can express emotions, and has tripled in size.

to:

* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: The guardian can now disguise itself, use Guardian was previously depicted as an immobile, sentient gateway into the past. In this two-parter, it demonstrates the ability to alter its appearance at will, generate a human avatar, avatar to interact with people, can allow for travel to the mirror universe and back, is mobile, can express emotions, relocate itself anywhere it pleases, and has tripled a greater range of emotion in size.its human avatar. The Guardian lampshades that he was previously far more permissive about people using him to travel into the past, until they started abusing that privilege as a weapon in the Temporal Wars.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: The guardian can now disguise itself, use a human avatar, allow for travel to the mirror universe and back, is mobile, can express emotions, and has tripled in size.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheGhost: As with the prior episode, Captain Lorca (Creator/JasonIsaacs) is frequently mentioned but never appears. Other cameos, such as Captain Pike, Number One, and the entire ''[=TOS=]'' crew, who ought to be around somewhere -- true, they'd be the ages they were in ''Film/StarTrek2009'', but "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror Mirror, Mirror]]" tells us they'd still be in service -- are not even contemplated.

to:

* TheGhost: As with the prior episode, Captain Lorca (Creator/JasonIsaacs) is frequently mentioned but never appears. Other cameos, such as Captain Pike, Number One, and the entire ''[=TOS=]'' crew, who ought to be around somewhere -- true, they'd be the ages they were in ''Film/StarTrek2009'', but "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror Mirror, Mirror]]" tells us they'd still already be in service -- are not even contemplated.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EnemyMine: Apparently, Lorca has managed to convince Klingons and Romulans to ally against Georgiou. Given what Georgiou did with [=Qo'noS=], it probably didn't take a lot of convincing for the Klingons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ApologeticAttacker: Georgiou after she runs Michael through with her sword.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DontMakeMeDestroyYou: By the end, Georgiou is practically begging Mirror Burnham not to force her to kill her. Sadly, Mirror Burnham can only see this as [[LoveIsAWeakness weakness]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou: Georgiou orders that Mirror Burnham be tortured to break her will and make her loyal again, which she rationalizes as a necessity in a universe where strength is the only constant.

Added: 939

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ContinuityNod: Carl alludes to his previous appearance as the Guardian of Forever when he explains that he used to let people travel back in time whenever they wanted, but it was on them to fix any damage they caused. This is exactly what Kirk, Spock, and [=McCoy=] went through.



* MutualKill: Georgiou stabs Mirror Burnham through the gut with her sword, but gets a dagger to the jugular in return, dying in Mirror Saru's arms.



* ProperlyParanoid: When Mirror Burnham turns on Georgiou a second time, Georgiou reveals that she suspected this would happen, at which point her backup breaks into the room and guns down the traitors.



* RuleOfThree: Tn the previous episode, Georgiou strikes at Burnham with a sword, twice, but holds back each time. In this episode, she doesn't.

to:

* RuleOfThree: Tn In the previous episode, Georgiou strikes at Burnham with a sword, twice, but holds back each time. In this episode, she doesn't.


Added DiffLines:

* TimTaylorTechnology: In an effort to access the sensors on the Kelpien ship, Stamets and Adira keep dumping more and more power into the long-range sensors in order to break through the interference. Book then shows up with an Emerald Chain subspace amplifier which is able to cut through the interference.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* KillEmAll: The Mirror version of just out every known ''Discovery'' character is dead by the end of the episode. Only Mirror Tilly, Owo and Saru are left.

to:

* KillEmAll: The Mirror version of just out about every known ''Discovery'' character is dead by the end of the episode. Only Mirror Tilly, Owo and Saru are left.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CanonhCharacterAllAlong: Carl turns out to be a manifestation of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever the Guardian of Forever]].

to:

* CanonhCharacterAllAlong: CanonCharacterAllAlong: Carl turns out to be a manifestation of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever the Guardian of Forever]].

Added: 401

Changed: 18

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CanonCharacterAllAlong: Carl turns out to be a manifestation of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever the Guardian of Forever]].

to:

* CanonCharacterAllAlong: CanonhCharacterAllAlong: Carl turns out to be a manifestation of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever the Guardian of Forever]].



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mirror Burnham meets her end with Georgiou's sword through her gut, though not before Burnham stabs her in the jugular.

to:

* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mirror Burnham meets her end with Georgiou's sword through her gut, though not before Burnham stabs her in the jugular.jugular for a MutualKill.
* KillEmAll: The Mirror version of just out every known ''Discovery'' character is dead by the end of the episode. Only Mirror Tilly, Owo and Saru are left.


Added DiffLines:

* TortureTechnician: Georgiou describes Mirror Tilly as the best interrogator in the Empire. Tilly starts by throwing Mirror Burnham in an agony booth and then leaves her there, being woken up periodically to be hit again with a fresh assault.

Added: 143

Changed: 235

Removed: 143

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EvolvingCredits: The opening credits use blue instead of orange tones while flipping the graphics upside-down.

to:

* EvolvingCredits: The opening credits use blue instead of orange tones while flipping the graphics upside-down.upside-down as this show's spin on the Mirror Universe opening.



* FakingTheDead: Burnham and Saru decide to simply report Georgiou as dead rather than try to explain what happened to her or reveal the presence of the Guardian of Forever. (This is not technically inaccurate, since she's explicitly sent back to a time when "the universes are closer together," and therefore has probably reached an age to pass by now.)

to:

* FakingTheDead: Burnham and Saru decide to simply report Georgiou as dead rather than try to explain what happened to her or reveal the presence of the Guardian of Forever. (This is not technically inaccurate, since she's explicitly sent back to a time when "the universes are closer together," and therefore has probably reached an age would be dead by the present day.)
* AFormYouAreComfortableWith: Carl and his door turn out
to pass by now.)be the Guardian of Forever, covertly testing Georgiou to see if she's worth saving.



* AFormYouAreComfortableWith: Carl and his door turn out to be the Guardian of Forever, covertly testing Georgiou to see if she's worth saving.



* RuleOfThree: Tn the previous episode, Georgiou strikes at Burnham with a sword, twice, but holds back each time. In this episde, she doesn't.

to:

* RuleOfThree: Tn the previous episode, Georgiou strikes at Burnham with a sword, twice, but holds back each time. In this episde, episode, she doesn't.



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: subverted. Emperor Georgiou ''tries'' to change the way things played out by saving both Michael and herself. [[FailureIstheOnlyOption She fails]]. She also teaches Mirror Saru the truth about ''va'harai'' and all but orders him to overthrow the Terran Empire... but given that, per ''[=DS9=]'', [[ForegoneConclusion this is exactly what happened]], it isn't necessarily accurate to assume that Georgiou changed anything. However, the SecretTestOfCharacter was not whether she would ''succeed'', but rather whether she would try at all.

to:

* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: subverted. Subverted. Emperor Georgiou ''tries'' to change the way things played out by saving attempting to reform both Michael and herself.the Empire itself, if marginally in the case of the latter. [[FailureIstheOnlyOption She fails]]. She also teaches Mirror Saru the truth about ''va'harai'' and all but orders him to overthrow the Terran Empire... but given that, per ''[=DS9=]'', [[ForegoneConclusion this is exactly what happened]], it isn't necessarily accurate to assume that Georgiou changed anything.anything, at least in [[TheMultiverse the timelines we know]]. However, the SecretTestOfCharacter was not whether she would ''succeed'', but rather whether she would try at all.



* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Georgiou tells Burnham that, in the future she finds herself in, she's more captain material than she might think.

to:

* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Georgiou tells Burnham that, in the darker future she finds herself in, she's more captain material than she might think.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CanonCharacterAllAlong: Carl turns out to be a manifestation of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever the Guardian of Forever]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* RuleOfThree: Tn the previous episode, Georgiou strikes at Burnham with a sword, twice, but holds back each time. In this episde, she doesn't.


Added DiffLines:

* TwoLinesNoWaiting: As with the previous episode, this one features a strict PointOfView scheme, starting out with an explicit and uninterrupted focus on Georgiou in the Mirror Universe and not showing anything of Prime ''Discovery'''s investigation into the Burn until Georgiou comes back to the Prime Universe.

Added: 1304

Changed: 182

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BackdoorPilot: A show starring Creator/MichelleYeoh as a Section 31 operative has been promised for some time, but was complicated when she joined the ''Discovery'' crew on its TimeSkip. The ending of this episode sends Georgiou back in time so that she can survive her TemporalSickness, allowing the SpinOff to proceed.



* FakingTheDead: Burnham and Saru decide to simply report Georgiou as dead rather than try to explain what happened to her or reveal the presence of the Guardian of Forever.

to:

* FakingTheDead: Burnham and Saru decide to simply report Georgiou as dead rather than try to explain what happened to her or reveal the presence of the Guardian of Forever. (This is not technically inaccurate, since she's explicitly sent back to a time when "the universes are closer together," and therefore has probably reached an age to pass by now.)
* TheGhost: As with the prior episode, Captain Lorca (Creator/JasonIsaacs) is frequently mentioned but never appears. Other cameos, such as Captain Pike, Number One, and the entire ''[=TOS=]'' crew, who ought to be around somewhere -- true, they'd be the ages they were in ''Film/StarTrek2009'', but "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror Mirror, Mirror]]" tells us they'd still be in service -- are not even contemplated.



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mirror Burnham meets her end with Georgiou's sword through her gut, though not before Burnham stabs her in the juglar.

to:

* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mirror Burnham meets her end with Georgiou's sword through her gut, though not before Burnham stabs her in the juglar.jugular.


Added DiffLines:

* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: subverted. Emperor Georgiou ''tries'' to change the way things played out by saving both Michael and herself. [[FailureIstheOnlyOption She fails]]. She also teaches Mirror Saru the truth about ''va'harai'' and all but orders him to overthrow the Terran Empire... but given that, per ''[=DS9=]'', [[ForegoneConclusion this is exactly what happened]], it isn't necessarily accurate to assume that Georgiou changed anything. However, the SecretTestOfCharacter was not whether she would ''succeed'', but rather whether she would try at all.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* VillainRescue: Mirror Owo and Killy busting in to save Georgiou from Burnham's trap.

to:

* VillainRescue: VillainousRescue: Mirror Owo and Killy busting in to save Georgiou from Burnham's trap.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* VillainRescue: Mirror Owo and Killy busting in to save Georgiou from Burnham's trap.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AndTheRest: upon hunting down and killing her co-conspirators, Mirror Burnham gives Georgiou the badges of Landry, Bryce, and a rather large pile of "all the rest".

to:

* AndTheRest: upon Upon hunting down and killing her co-conspirators, Mirror Burnham gives Georgiou the badges of Landry, Bryce, and a rather large pile of "all the rest".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AndTheRest: upon hunting down and killing her co-conspirators, Mirror Burnham gives Georgiou the badges of Landry, Bryce, and a rather large pile of "all the rest".

Added: 201

Changed: 118

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive: Georgiou has Tilly torture Mirror Burnham for days on end to break her will and make her loyal again.

to:

* TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive: Georgiou has Tilly torture Mirror Burnham for days on end to break her will and make her loyal again. Though it appears to work, ultimately it only convinces Burnham to fake a turnaround to get another shot at her coup.


Added DiffLines:

* SecretTestOfCharacter: Georgiou's entire time in the Mirror Universe was a test by the Guardian of Forever to see if she has changed from the person she was when she first came to the Prime Universe.

Added: 223

Removed: 222

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* KillYourMate: Georgiou assigns Mirror Detmer to join Mirror Burnham in culling her co-conspirators, knowing that Detmer is one of them. At the end, to prove her loyalty, Burnham has to kill Detmer to show she is serious.


Added DiffLines:

* ShootYourMate: Georgiou assigns Mirror Detmer to join Mirror Burnham in culling her co-conspirators, knowing that Detmer is one of them. At the end, to prove her loyalty, Burnham has to kill Detmer to show she is serious.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


!!Tropes in this episode:

to:

!!Tropes in this episode:episode:
* TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive: Georgiou has Tilly torture Mirror Burnham for days on end to break her will and make her loyal again.
* EvolvingCredits: The opening credits use blue instead of orange tones while flipping the graphics upside-down.
* FakeDefector: Mirror Burnham seemingly turns on Lorca, but was actually simply biding her time to find the right moment to strike.
* FakingTheDead: Burnham and Saru decide to simply report Georgiou as dead rather than try to explain what happened to her or reveal the presence of the Guardian of Forever.
* AFormYouAreComfortableWith: Carl and his door turn out to be the Guardian of Forever, covertly testing Georgiou to see if she's worth saving.
* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mirror Burnham meets her end with Georgiou's sword through her gut, though not before Burnham stabs her in the juglar.
* KillYourMate: Georgiou assigns Mirror Detmer to join Mirror Burnham in culling her co-conspirators, knowing that Detmer is one of them. At the end, to prove her loyalty, Burnham has to kill Detmer to show she is serious.
* PragmaticVillainy: Georgiou argues this to Mirror Burnham when explaining why she's been merciful to their slave worlds, as allowing them some leeway makes them less likely to rebel. The alternative, as they've already experienced, is ever-increasing revolts.
* PutOnABus: Georgiou has to travel back into the past to survive her condition.
* TheReveal: Carl is the Guardian of Forever. He went into hiding during the Temporal Wars to prevent people from using him as a weapon.
* WhamLine:
-->'''Carl:''' ''[voice echoing]'' I am the Guardian of Forever.
* YearInsideHourOutside: What was months to Georgiou is less than a minute to Carl and Burnham, though he is aware of what she went through.
* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Georgiou tells Burnham that, in the future she finds herself in, she's more captain material than she might think.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Create recap page for S 3 E 10

Added DiffLines:

While back in the Mirror Universe of her past, Georgiou uncovers the true depths of the plot against her, leading her to a revelation about how deeply her time on the ''Discovery'' truly changed her.
----
!!Tropes in this episode:

Top