Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* EvilOldFolks: Zouken Matou, being an old and disheveled yet still very much evil magus, serves as the ArcVillain and primary threat that Chaldea must stop.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* GoOutWithASmile:
** Following his defeat at the hands of Chaldea, Zhuge Liang in particular, Iskandar gives a huge grin of respect at the former as he DisappearsIntoLight.
** In a darker example, Zouken, upon seeing the corrupted Justeaze emerge from the Greater Grail, resigns himself to being killed by her while maintaining a malicious and longing grin.
** Following his defeat at the hands of Chaldea, Zhuge Liang in particular, Iskandar gives a huge grin of respect at the former as he DisappearsIntoLight.
** In a darker example, Zouken, upon seeing the corrupted Justeaze emerge from the Greater Grail, resigns himself to being killed by her while maintaining a malicious and longing grin.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fatezeroeventus.png]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 28 (click to see context) :
** Gilles and Ryuunosuke are killed early in the Fourth Holy Grail War, preventing them from causing the destruction and mayhem they originally did.
Added DiffLines:
* DiesDifferentlyInAdaptation: Gilles and Ryuunosuke are killed much earlier in the Fourth Holy Grail War by Chaldea and Kiritsugu respectively, preventing them from causing the destruction and mayhem they originally did.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moving Recap pages to the most simplified titles. This will also remove any issues with using very old fan translations for UR Ls (e.g. "Sacred Round Table Region"
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
** Due to being located in Fuyuki, many of the locations of the Quests are actually identical to the their locations in the [[Recap/FateGrandOrderS1E0TheFlameContaminatedCityFuyuki flame-engulfed Fuyuki]] and even reveals what they were (X-A is the Emiya Residence, X-B is the Tohsaka Residence, X-C is Fuyuki Bridge, X-D is the Wharf, X-E is the Fuyuki Church, X-F is Homurahara Academy, X-G is the Einzbern Castle, and Point 0 is the Greater Grail's location).
to:
** Due to being located in Fuyuki, many of the locations of the Quests are actually identical to the their locations in the [[Recap/FateGrandOrderS1E0TheFlameContaminatedCityFuyuki [[Recap/FateGrandOrderS1E0Fuyuki flame-engulfed Fuyuki]] and even reveals what they were (X-A is the Emiya Residence, X-B is the Tohsaka Residence, X-C is Fuyuki Bridge, X-D is the Wharf, X-E is the Fuyuki Church, X-F is Homurahara Academy, X-G is the Einzbern Castle, and Point 0 is the Greater Grail's location).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
* {{Crossover}}: One with ''LightNovel/FateZero'', as implied by the title. It also functions as an AlternateUniverse, with several factors and elements differing from the source material.
to:
* {{Crossover}}: One with ''LightNovel/FateZero'', ''Literature/FateZero'', as implied by the title. It also functions as an AlternateUniverse, with several factors and elements differing from the source material.
Changed line(s) 31 (click to see context) from:
* {{Deuteragonist}}: El-Melloi II is the main ally of the event as he tries to prevent the tragedies he endured in [[LightNovel/FateZero the Fourth Holy Grail War]].
to:
* {{Deuteragonist}}: El-Melloi II is the main ally of the event as he tries to prevent the tragedies he endured in [[LightNovel/FateZero [[Literature/FateZero the Fourth Holy Grail War]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 33 (click to see context) from:
* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: As with most ''Fate'' works, the Servants are referred to by their class names.
to:
* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: As with most ''Fate'' works, the Fourth Grail War Servants are referred to by their class names.names. Averted with the Chaldea Servants in El-Melloi II and Mash, who are referred to by their True Names throughout.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* DidntSeeThatComing: El-Melloi II is completely shocked and let down when Iskandar, whom he's been hoping to ally with Chaldea, absolutely refuses to do so, and decides instead to fight against and oppose them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 59 (click to see context) from:
* WorthyOpponent: El-Melloi II is [[GrinOfAudacity very pleased]] to be considered one by Iskandar and requests that the protagonist let them fight even though it's essentially counterproductive apart from personal satisfaction.
to:
* WorthyOpponent: El-Melloi II is [[GrinOfAudacity very pleased]] to be considered one by Iskandar and requests that the protagonist let them fight even though it's essentially counterproductive apart from personal satisfaction.satisfaction.
* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Zouken pulls this on ''himself''. Upon seeing what has become of Justeaze, he concludes that his role is over and allows himself to be killed by her, trusting that she'll finish the job they started centuries ago.
* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Zouken pulls this on ''himself''. Upon seeing what has become of Justeaze, he concludes that his role is over and allows himself to be killed by her, trusting that she'll finish the job they started centuries ago.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 59 (click to see context) from:
* WorthyOpponent: El-Melloi II is [[GrinOfAudacity very pleased]] to be considered one by Iskandar and requests that the protagonist please let them fight even though it's essentially counterproductive apart from personal satisfaction.
to:
* WorthyOpponent: El-Melloi II is [[GrinOfAudacity very pleased]] to be considered one by Iskandar and requests that the protagonist please let them fight even though it's essentially counterproductive apart from personal satisfaction.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 31 (click to see context) from:
* {{Deuteragonist}}: El-Melloi II is the main ally of the event as he tries prevent the tragedies he endured in [[LightNovel/FateZero the Fourth Holy Grail War]].
to:
* {{Deuteragonist}}: El-Melloi II is the main ally of the event as he tries to prevent the tragedies he endured in [[LightNovel/FateZero the Fourth Holy Grail War]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction: The other reason Iskander doesn't join with the protagonists/El-Melloi II after Gilgamesh is defeated. He knows that if he joins the protagonists, they will win the grail with no challenge which he finds that incredibly boring.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
** When El-Melloi II reveals the Fuyuki Holy Grail has been corrupted, Kiritsugu asks why El-Melloi II didn't destroy the grail right away if he knew that. El-Melloi II states he needed to be careful as if he destroyed the container without preparation it would spell disaster. This references the ending of ''Fate/Zero'' where Kiritsugu used his command seals to force Artoria to destroy the grail which unintentionally caused the Fuyuki Fire due to the mud inside the grail leaking out.
to:
** When El-Melloi II reveals the Fuyuki Holy Grail has been corrupted, Kiritsugu asks why El-Melloi II didn't destroy the grail right away if he knew that. El-Melloi II states he needed to be careful as if he destroyed the container without preparation it would spell disaster. This references the ending of ''Fate/Zero'' where Kiritsugu used his command seals to force Artoria Altria to destroy the grail which unintentionally caused the Fuyuki Fire due to the mud inside the grail leaking out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** When El-Melloi II reveals the Fuyuki Holy Grail has been corrupted, Kiritsugu asks why El-Melloi II didn't destroy the grail right away if he knew that. El-Melloi II states he needed to be careful as if he destroyed the container without preparation it would spell disaster. This references the ending of ''Fate/Zero'' where Kiritsugu used his command seals to force Artoria to destroy the grail which unintentionally caused the Fuyuki Fire due to the mud inside the grail leaking out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24 (click to see context) from:
* CrazyJealousGuy: When Kayneth is tricked into leaving the Holy Grail War early by El-Melloi II, Diarmuid makes it clear, he intends on following his master. All it takes is El-Melloi II saying Kayneth's fiance would be overjoyed to have Diarmuid around for Kayneth to make El-Melloi II in jealous rage.
to:
* CrazyJealousGuy: When Kayneth is tricked into leaving the Holy Grail War early by El-Melloi II, Diarmuid makes it clear, clear he intends on following his master. All it takes is El-Melloi II saying Kayneth's fiance would be overjoyed to have Diarmuid around for Kayneth to make El-Melloi II Diarmuid's master in jealous rage.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* CrazyJealousGuy: When Kayneth is tricked into leaving the Holy Grail War early by El-Melloi II, Diarmuid makes it clear, he intends on following his master. All it takes is El-Melloi II saying Kayneth's fiance would be overjoyed to have Diarmuid around for Kayneth to make El-Melloi II in jealous rage.
* ItsAllAboutMe: El-Melloi II easily manipulates Kayneth because Kayneth keeps believing whatever El-Melloi II says as it strokes his large ego that the world does revolve around himself.
Changed line(s) 43 (click to see context) from:
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: El-Melloi II is determined to ensure the tragedies that occurred as a result of the Fourth Holy Grail War never happens.
to:
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Subverted while El-Melloi II is determined to ensure the tragedies that occurred as a result of the Fourth Holy Grail War never happens.happens, Roman states El-Melloi II's actions won't change the past due to the nature of Singularities. El-Melloi II already knew that but he doesn't want to repeat the same mistakes he did in his youth.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
* IHatePastMe: El-Melloi II makes it clear he hates how he used to be in the Fourth Holy Grail War
to:
* IHatePastMe: El-Melloi II makes it clear he hates how he used to be in the Fourth Holy Grail WarWar. This ends up backfiring because Iskandar [[BigBrotherInstinct doesn't take kindly to his Master being treated this way]] and refuses a team up with Chaldea.
Changed line(s) 40 (click to see context) from:
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Iskandar saves Kariya by amputating his arm, then leaves it lying around for Zouken to find. Zouken uses the Command Seals to control Lancelot into attacking the party, and defeating him in self-defense adds up to enough Servant casualties to activate the Grail.
to:
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: NiceJobBreakingItHero:
** El-Melloi II constantly [[IHatePastMe taking out his frustrations on his younger self]] alienates Iskandar enough for him to deny making an alliance with Chaldea, much to El-Melloi II's shock.
** Iskandar saves Kariya by amputating his arm, then leaves it lying around for Zouken to find. Zouken uses the Command Seals to control Lancelot into attacking the party, and defeating him in self-defense adds up to enough Servant casualties to activate the Grail.
** El-Melloi II constantly [[IHatePastMe taking out his frustrations on his younger self]] alienates Iskandar enough for him to deny making an alliance with Chaldea, much to El-Melloi II's shock.
** Iskandar saves Kariya by amputating his arm, then leaves it lying around for Zouken to find. Zouken uses the Command Seals to control Lancelot into attacking the party, and defeating him in self-defense adds up to enough Servant casualties to activate the Grail.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* {{Foreshadowing}}: When the protagonists first meet Kiritsugu, they state he reminds of them of Archer Emiya which shocks Kiritsugu which was Kiritsugu being surprised they said his last name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* BigBrotherInstinct: Part of the reason Iskander doesn't join with the heroes is because El-Melloi II keeps picking fights with Waver.
* CallBack: When the protagonists meet Caster Gilles de Rais, Mash calls him Marshal Gilles de Rais remembering meeting him in Orleans.
* {{Deuteragonist}}: El-Melloi II is the main ally of the event as he tries prevent the tragedies he endured in [[LightNovel/FateZero the Fourth Holy Grail War]].
Changed line(s) 29 (click to see context) from:
* TheGhost: Tokiomi Tohsaka and Kirei Kotomine, the Masters of Gilgamesh and Hundred-Faced Hassan, respectively, are never encountered but mentioned several times by Zhuge Liang in passing.
to:
* TheGhost: Tokiomi Tohsaka and Kirei Kotomine, the Masters of Gilgamesh and Hundred-Faced Hassan, respectively, are never encountered but mentioned several times by Zhuge Liang in passing. Rin Tohsaka is also indirectly mentioned by El-Melloi II when he explains why he knows the structure of Fubuki's leylines and keystones.
* IHatePastMe: El-Melloi II makes it clear he hates how he used to be in the Fourth Holy Grail War
* IHatePastMe: El-Melloi II makes it clear he hates how he used to be in the Fourth Holy Grail War
Changed line(s) 33 (click to see context) from:
** Diarmuid actually makes it to the end of the event, unlike his ''Fate/Zero'' counterpart.
to:
** Diarmuid actually makes it to the end Yet again an OlderAndWiser servant version of the event, unlike a participant of a Holy Grail War can't stand his ''Fate/Zero'' counterpart.younger self. Luckily for Waver, El-Melloi II isn't nearly as murderous as Emiya was towards Shirou.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: El-Melloi II is determined to ensure the tragedies that occurred as a result of the Fourth Holy Grail War never happens.
Changed line(s) 44 (click to see context) from:
* TheUnfought: After defeating Gilles, Zhuge Liang next directs you to find and take down his Master Ryuunosuke, but by the time you find him, the mystery Assassin has already killed him.
to:
* TheUnfought: TheUnfought:
** After defeating Gilles, Zhuge Liang next directs you to find and take down his Master Ryuunosuke, but by the time you find him, the mystery Assassin has already killed him.
** After defeating Gilles, Zhuge Liang next directs you to find and take down his Master Ryuunosuke, but by the time you find him, the mystery Assassin has already killed him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ArcVillain: [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Zouken Matou]], also known as Zolgen Makiri, ultimately serves as the main source of conflict here, this time with his all-too familiar look as a shriveled old man.
