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* TwoLineNoWaiting: In addition to the Vandal Savage Subpolt, there's one associted with Oliver's Son that started in the Flash Portion of the Crossover, but became more fleshed out here.
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* TwoLineNoWaiting: TwoLinesNoWaiting: In addition to the Vandal Savage Subpolt, there's one associted with Oliver's Son that started in the Flash Portion of the Crossover, but became more fleshed out here.
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* TwoLineNoWaiting: In addition to the Vandal Savage Subpolt, there's one associted with Oliver's Son that started in the Flash Portion of the Crossover, but became more fleshed out here.
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* CompositeCharacter: Vandal Savage is one for Hath-Set, the Egyptian villain who's tied to the Hawk's various deaths and rebirths. Savage even goes by the name of Hath Set in the flashbacks.
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Felcitiy explicitly states she doesn\'t care about Oliver having a son, she cares about him lying to her about it once she confronts him with it.
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* TookALevelInJerkass: Felicity flips out when she finds out that Ollie wouldn't tell her he had a son; you'd be forgiven for thinking this was a Season 3 episode.
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that\'s not what happened at all-Oliver was planning to leave William alone and not tell Felicity. He only has to keep it a secret because Barry also encourages him to be in William\'s life. If Barry hadn\'t spilled the beans to Felicity in the first place (after telling Oliver he wouldn\'t) than it wouldn\'t be a problem.
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** Despite Barry telling him that keeping Felicity in the dark about having a son will end their relationship, Oliver keeps her in the dark anyway,
** Merlyn plans to resurrect Vandal Savage, a man he admits to be afraid of.
** Despite Barry telling him that keeping Felicity in the dark about having a son will end their relationship, Oliver keeps her in the dark anyway,
** Merlyn plans to resurrect Vandal Savage, a man he admits to be afraid of.
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* IdiotBall:
** Despite Barry telling him that keeping Felicity in the dark about having a son will end their relationship, Oliver keeps her in the dark anyway,
**IdiotBall: Merlyn plans to resurrect Vandal Savage, a man he admits to be afraid of.
** Despite Barry telling him that keeping Felicity in the dark about having a son will end their relationship, Oliver keeps her in the dark anyway,
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* DeathIsCheap: Even though Savage is reduced to nothing more than a pile of ashes, Malcolm seems to known a way to bring him back to life, even though Nyssa destroyed the Lazarus Pit earlier this season.
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* DeathIsCheap: Even though Savage is reduced to nothing more than a pile of ashes, Malcolm seems to known know a way to bring him back to life, even though Nyssa destroyed the Lazarus Pit earlier this season.life.
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** In the comics, Oliver has two sons: Robert via Shado, and Connor via Sandra Hawke. William and his mother appear to be CanonForeigner.
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* AdaptationalNameChange: In the comics Ollie's son is named Connor, here he's named William. This may be to offset the UnfortunateImplications of giving his mother a RaceLift to white.
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* AdaptationalNameChange: In the comics Ollie's son is named Connor, here he's named William. This may be to offset the UnfortunateImplications of giving his mother a RaceLift to white.white, and because a version of Connor Hawke not related to Ollie will be appearing in Legends of Tomorrow.
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* DeathIsCheap: Even without the Lazarus Pit, it apparently is, seeing how Merlyn is going to resurrect Savage.
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* DeathIsCheap: Even without though Savage is reduced to nothing more than a pile of ashes, Malcolm seems to known a way to bring him back to life, even though Nyssa destroyed the Lazarus Pit, it apparently is, seeing how Merlyn is going to resurrect Savage.Pit earlier this season.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Not waiting until 2017 for the Justice League film.]]
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* DeathIsCheap: Even without the Lazarus Pit, it apparently is, seeing how Merlyn is going to resurrect Savage.
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* ManipulativeBastard: Malcom proves once again his villainous nature by helping Savage getting resurrected just so he owes him a favour.
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* OneManArmy: Savage takes on the entire Arrow team and dominates the fight, despite getting ambushed.
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** While Barry warns Oliver about the dangers of changing the timeline, he is invoking his attempt to save his mother that resulted in the near-destruction of the the city (and world) and the death of Ronnie Raymond. He seems to have overlooked that when he earlier hopped back in time unintentionally and made changes, he improved the outcome of events, with the minor exception of his brief relationship change with Iris.
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** While Barry warns Oliver about the dangers of changing the timeline, he is invoking his attempt to save his mother that resulted in the near-destruction of the the city (and world) and the death of Ronnie Raymond. He seems to have overlooked that when he earlier hopped back in time unintentionally and made changes, changes he improved the outcome of events, with the minor exception of his brief relationship change with Iris.
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* BeenThereShapedHistory: Carter states that Savage was responsible for the 1887 Huang He (Yellow River) flood in China.
* ChronicHeroSyndrome: Carter tells Kendra that in their previous lives they were always helping people.
* ChronicHeroSyndrome: Carter tells Kendra that in their previous lives they were always helping people.
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* DidTheResearch: The 1887 flood that Carter states Vandal Savage was responsible for is one of the few widespread natural disasters that could, theoretically, really been caused by a single relatively normal human arranging for breaches (using gunpowder, for example) in the dykes holding back the Huang He.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Justice League film in 2017? Why wait?]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:Justice League film in 2017? No need to wait.]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:Justice League film in 2017? No need to wait.]]
Why wait?]]
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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/arrowcrossover2015_640x300.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:350:Justice League film in 2017? No need to wait.]]
[[caption-width-right:350:Justice League film in 2017? No need to wait.]]
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* AdaptationalNameChange: In the comics Ollie's son is named Connor, here he's named William. This may be to offset the UnfortunateImplications of giving his mother a RaceLift to white.
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* AesopAmnesia: Ollie doesn't tell Felicity about his son, having forgotten that KeepingSecretsSucks, which is really egregious since he took pains to avoid this in the last episode.
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** Ollie doesn't tell Felicity about his son, having forgotten that KeepingSecretsSucks, which is really egregious since he took pains to avoid this in the lastepisode.episode.
** While Barry warns Oliver about the dangers of changing the timeline, he is invoking his attempt to save his mother that resulted in the near-destruction of the the city (and world) and the death of Ronnie Raymond. He seems to have overlooked that when he earlier hopped back in time unintentionally and made changes, he improved the outcome of events, with the minor exception of his brief relationship change with Iris.
** Ollie doesn't tell Felicity about his son, having forgotten that KeepingSecretsSucks, which is really egregious since he took pains to avoid this in the last
** While Barry warns Oliver about the dangers of changing the timeline, he is invoking his attempt to save his mother that resulted in the near-destruction of the the city (and world) and the death of Ronnie Raymond. He seems to have overlooked that when he earlier hopped back in time unintentionally and made changes, he improved the outcome of events, with the minor exception of his brief relationship change with Iris.
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* AbsenteeActor: Alex Kingston is again a no-show (presumably she was busy [[Series/DoctorWho over in Cardiff]]), despite Laurel visiting her mother being the excuse for why she wasn't in the preceding ''Flash'' episode.
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* ContinuityLockout: If you haven't watched ''The Flash'', not only will you have missed part one of the crossover, but you also won't understand anything about the time travel plot point.
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* CrossReferencedTitles: With the Flash episode "Legends of Today" that's part one of this crossover, and with Legends of Tomorrow, ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'', which both episodes are a backdoor pilot to.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Samantha insists that Oliver not tell anyone he has a son - not even Felicity.
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* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Samantha insists that Oliver not tell anyone he has a son - not even Felicity.
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* TimeTravelTenseTrouble: Barry runs into this while trying to explain time travel to Oliver.
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* OutOfFocus: Though Laurel appears, she only has one or two lines.
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* CrossReferencedTitles: With the Flash episode "Legends of Today" that's part one of this crossover, and with Legends of Tomorrow, which both episodes are a backdoor pilot to.
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** Having their wings being able to appear and disappear as necessary makes it easier on all involved instead of having to explain why they wear artificial wings and fly using nth metal (the standard comic explanation) or having them walk around with wings all the time (the {{DCAU}} version of Hawkgirl and other Thanagarians).
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** Having their wings being able to appear and disappear as necessary makes it easier on all involved instead of having to explain why they wear artificial wings and fly using nth metal (the standard comic explanation) or having them walk around with wings all the time (the {{DCAU}} Franchise/{{DCAU}} version of Hawkgirl and other Thanagarians).
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* ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules: Samantha never cashed the check Moria gave to her.
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* ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules: Samantha never cashed the check Moria Moira gave to her.
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** Having their wings being able to appear and disappear as necessary makes it easier on all involved instead of having to explain why they wear artificial wings and fly using nth metal (the standard comic explanation) or having them walk around with wings all the time (the DCAU version of Hawkgirl and other Thanagarians).
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** Having their wings being able to appear and disappear as necessary makes it easier on all involved instead of having to explain why they wear artificial wings and fly using nth metal (the standard comic explanation) or having them walk around with wings all the time (the DCAU {{DCAU}} version of Hawkgirl and other Thanagarians).
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** Having their wings being able to appear and disappear as necessary makes it easier on all involved instead of having to explain why they wear artificial wings and fly using nth metal (the standard comic explanation) or having them walk around with wings all the time (the DCAU version of Hawkgirl and other Thanagarians).
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* GetOut: In the Ancient Egypt flashback, Vandal Savage caught Prince Khufu and Priestess Shiera in the same bedchamber. Prince Khufu proceeds to tell Savage to get out before starting a brawl.
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* OhCrap: Kendra realizes that she can't spread her wings the same way Carter does, leading her to waste the opportunity to fight Vandal Savage back during their first battle.
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* ContinuityNod: Oliver requested Barry to run a genetic test with his blood and William's hair strand. The Y-chromosome matches Oliver with his son.
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* ContinuityNod: Oliver requested Barry to run a genetic test with his blood and William's hair strand. The Y-chromosome matches Oliver with his son.
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* DaddyDNATest:DaddyDNATest: Oliver requested Barry to run a genetic test with his blood and William's hair strand. The Y-chromosome matches Oliver with his son.
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* DeusExMachina: Once again, Barry's super speed helped him travel back in time and gave Team FlArrow the second chance to fight Vandal Savage properly.
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* DeusExMachina: Once again, Barry's super speed helped him travel back in time and gave Team FlArrow Flarrow the second chance to fight Vandal Savage properly.
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* DeuxExMachina: DeusExMachina: Once again, Barry's super speed helped him travel back in time and gave Team FlArrow the second chance to fight Vandal Savage properly.
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* DeuxExMachina: Once again, Barry's super speed helped him travel back in time and gave Team FlArrow the second chance to fight Vandal Savage properly.
* DeuxExMachina: Once again, Barry's super speed helped him travel back in time and gave Team FlArrow the second chance to fight Vandal Savage properly.
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* StrippedToTheBone: Vandal Savage caused an energy explosion that vaporized everybody within the field, with skeletons visibly crumbling down.
