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'''Empathy''': Do you believe the status quo is preferable to chaos and bloodshed?\\
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->Chaos is deadlier than tyranny. More of these multicides result from the breakdown of authority rather than the exercise of authority. In comparison to a handful of dictators such as Idi Amin and Saddam Hussein who exercised their absolute power to kill hundreds of thousands, I found more and deadlier upheavals like the Time of Troubles, the Chinese Civil War, and the Mexican Revolution where no one exercised enough control to stop the death of millions.
-->-- '''Matthew White''', ''Atrocitology: Humanity's 100 Deadliest Achievements''
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'''Empathy''': Then you've never lived through ''real'' chaos...
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->It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization.
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civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. [[SubvertedTrope But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success.]] Fascism was an emergency makeshift. [[DefiedTrope To view it as something more would be a fatal error.]]
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->'''Schneizel:''' Cornelia, what is it that people wish for? Starvation and poverty; discrimination and corruption; war and terrorism--They wish for the problems flooding the world to go away. People desperately cannot understand each other. And so...\\
'''Cornelia:''' I understand your ideals, [[AMillionIsAStatistic but to do this to the civilians...]]\\
'''Schneizel:''' Yes. Even civilians who have rejected war depend on the police, don't they? Everyone understands that crime cannot be stopped because people can't help the desires they have. That's why we don't need to win hearts or use ideology. Why not bring peace to the world using a system backed by force? In ten days, [[KillSat Damocles]] will enter the airspace of the United States of China and then switch over to secondary acceleration. After that, we're scheduled to ascend three-hundred kilometers above the surface. From that position, [[NukeEm we will hit every warmongering nation with F.L.E.I.J.A.s.]]\\
'''Cornelia:''' Wait! Shouldn't they be used to defeat [[The Chessmaster Lelouch]]?! This will devastate the world. You're going to control people through fear?!\\
'''Cornelia:''' I understand your ideals, [[AMillionIsAStatistic but to do this to the civilians...]]\\
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'''Cornelia:''' I understand your ideals, [[AMillionIsAStatistic but to do this to the civilians...]]\\
'''Schneizel:''' Yes. Even civilians who have rejected war depend on the police, don't they? Everyone understands that crime cannot be stopped because people can't help the desires they have. That's why we don't need to win hearts or use ideology. Why not bring peace to the world using a system backed by force? In ten days, [[KillSat Damocles]] will enter the airspace of the United States of China and then switch over to secondary acceleration. After that, we're scheduled to ascend three-hundred kilometers above the surface. From that position, [[NukeEm we will hit every warmongering nation with F.L.E.I.J.A.s.]]\\
'''Cornelia:''' Wait! Shouldn't they be used to defeat [[The Chessmaster Lelouch]]?! This will devastate the world. You're going to control people through fear?!\\
'''Schneizel:''' Peace is an illusion. Mankind's history is one of war. Is not discipline what is needed to make an illusion reality?\\
'''Cornelia:''' And you plan to teach that lesson to the entire human race?! Only a god can get away with something like that!\\
'''Schneizel:''' [[AGodAmI Then I shall become a god.]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeansIf that is what people want me to become to give them peace.]]
-->-- ''Anime/CodeGeass''
'''Cornelia:''' I understand your ideals, [[AMillionIsAStatistic but to do this to the civilians...]]\\
'''Schneizel:''' Yes. Even civilians who have rejected war depend on the police, don't they? Everyone understands that crime cannot be stopped because people can't help the desires they have. That's why we don't need to win hearts or use ideology. Why not bring peace to the world using a system backed by force? In ten days, [[KillSat Damocles]] will enter the airspace of the United States of China and then switch over to secondary acceleration. After that, we're scheduled to ascend three-hundred kilometers above the surface. From that position, [[NukeEm we will hit every warmongering nation with F.L.E.I.J.A.s.]]\\
'''Cornelia:''' Wait! Shouldn't they be used to defeat [[The Chessmaster Lelouch]]?! This will devastate the world. You're going to control people through fear?!\\
'''Schneizel:''' Peace is an illusion. Mankind's history is one of war. Is not discipline what is needed to make an illusion reality?\\
'''Cornelia:''' And you plan to teach that lesson to the entire human race?! Only a god can get away with something like that!\\
'''Schneizel:''' [[AGodAmI Then I shall become a god.]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeansIf that is what people want me to become to give them peace.]]
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->The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.
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->''"I'll tell you where I stand. I stand four-square for Justice. I stand for discipline, good order, and the rigid application of the Law -- and Grud help any limp-wrist liberals who say different. The people, they know where I stand. They need '''rules''' to live by -- I provide them. They break the rules, I break them. That's the way it works.\\
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