History Quotes / CerebusSyndrome

-->-- '''Dennis Berry''' on the aborted ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}: The Raven''

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->''"I know you aspire to write stories with some complexity, Rockstar, and that players trying to ''have fun'' in your games [[StopHavingFunGuys must be very frustrating]], but you kind of brought this on yourself when you decided that [=Tw@=] would be a funny name for an internet café."''
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV''
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->''"I'm not sure if I like this blame culture that has built up around the Doctor. It's not something that was often considered in the classic series which made the few times where his actions were called into account ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E5TheMassacre 'The Massacre']], [[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks 'Genesis of the Daleks']], [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E1TheMysteriousPlanet 'Trial of a Time Lord']]) quite effective. I blame the ''[[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures]]'', personally. They were so obsessed with exploring the darker underbelly of the series, probing the title character psychologically that they introduced a level of self-criticism for the titular character that as a result has been woven into [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E6Dalek the new series]] and has been taken on board by [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho Big Finish]]. Back when these audio adventures began they were brilliant, often gripping, sometimes funny standalone affairs that allowed the Doctor to play an active role in his adventures without finding himself at the end of some weighty accusations every five minutes."''
-->-- '''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/signs-and-wonders-written-by-matt.html#uds-search-results Joe Ford]]'''

->''"I certainly didn't tune into ''Series/HappyDays'' to see a visibly pissed-off Richie screaming and yelling at the blind, petulant, self-pitying Fonzie to quit being a coward (when Fonzie, in all seriousness, [[SmiteMeOMightySmiter castigates God]] with, 'I thought I was your favorite person!?' as he claws at his own eyes, the [[{{Narm}} grotesque vulgarity]] of the moment is truly breathtaking)...So why did the producers and writers attempt it? Was it requested by star Winkler, to give him something '[[TomHanksSyndrome real]]' to act, as opposed to all the 'Whoas!' and 'Aaaaays!'?"''

->''"Oh my God, this movie is a black hole of humor. There are a few good chuckles in the first half with the ''Daily Planet'' crew and Kitty, but it just gets so damned serious and self-absorbed, and it doesn’t back any of it up with real content beyond the world’s most hilariously transparent Jesus imagery. This side of, like, ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', at least."''
-->-- '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-superman-returns-2006-part-two/ on]] ''Film/SupermanReturns''

->''"Let's say, for sake of example, that you're sick of making [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} Companion Cube]] jokes, and suddenly do a serious storyline about [[Webcomic/CtrlAltDel your female character having a miscarriage]]. Obviously, [[TropesAreNotGood you'd need to have several blood clots in your brain]] to think this is a good idea; you're established as a wacky humour comic, so this is going to be an awkward [[MoodWhiplash tonal shift at best]], and hugely disrespectful of the subject matter at worst."''
-->-- '''Creator/BenCroshaw''' on ''GamingWebcomics''

->''"Knowing that was being done by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously."''
-->-- '''George Weidman''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OABF4AsUec on]] ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidGroundZeroes''

->Wow, this got serious all of a sudden.
-->--'''Chiru''', ''Anime/{{Xabungle}}''

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->You've changed, Parker. You used to have a sense of humor. What happened? Why are you so angry?
-->--'''[[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Ben Reilly]]''' [[ArmedWithCanon echoing the sentiments]] of Spidey fans in general

->''It's always lightest before the dark.''

-> ''And then people started dying\\

I'm not sure when things changed, but I'm near broken-hearted''

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->''I was always [[PluckyGirl brave]]\\
And [[ForGreatJustice kind of righteous]]\\
Now I find I’m wavering\\
Crawl out of your grave,\\
You find this fight just\\
[[ItNeverGetsAnyEasier Doesn’t mean a thing]]''
-->--'''[[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]]''' [[MusicalEpisode sings]] "Going Through the Motions" ("Once More With Feeling")

->It's stopped being fun, Doctor.
-->--'''Tegan''', ''Series/DoctorWho'' ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS21E4ResurrectionOfTheDaleks}} "Resurrection of the Daleks"]])

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->How do you even begin to separate the horrible from the fanciful in this place anymore?
-->--'''Kevin Murphy''', Podcast/{{Rifftrax}} commentary of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban''

->I know you aspire to write stories with some complexity, Rockstar, and that players trying to ''have fun'' in your games [[StopHavingFunGuys must be very frustrating]], but you kind of brought this on yourself when you decided that [=Tw@=] would be a funny name for an internet cafe.

-->--''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

->Seriously, I'd make an effort to get out. The drama tag was pulled, so we're looking at a limited lifespan here. Sure, it's manageable now, but soon you'll have ''[[{{backstory}} backstories]]'' and {{love triangle}}s and then love ''[[LoveDodecahedron pentagons]]'' and then super-horrible secrets are revealed that change things forever... this store will end up so miserably ''{{emo}}'' that [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy no sane being will be able to stand it]]. Everyone will just ''leave''.
-->'''[[spoiler:Head Alien]]''', ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}''

->SHIT JUST GOT LOVECRAFTIAN
-->--'''Anonymous fa/tg/uy''', Roleplay/RubyQuest

->Creator/PaulCornell once observed that the reason Creator/SylvesterMcCoy was his favorite Doctor was that [=McCoy=] was the first Doctor Cornell could imagine encountering a concentration camp and still having the story work, whereas earlier Doctors would just not work, morally, in that setting. And it's a fair point -- imagining Creator/WilliamHartnell 'hmmming' his way through systematic extermination while [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct insisting on upholding history]] would be sickening...But sometimes seeing the shocking extremes of what a ''Doctor Who'' story can be is necessary. You don't really know the shape of something until you probe its edges.
-->--'''Dr. El Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/04/time-can-be-rewritten-4-man-in-velvet.html on]] the ''Literature/DoctorWhoMissingAdventures'' novel "The Man in the Velvet Mask"

->I'm not sure if I like this blame culture that has built up around the Doctor. It's not something that was often considered in the classic series which made the few times where his actions were called into account (''[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS3E5TheMassacre}} The Massacre]], [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks}} Genesis of the Daleks]], [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS23E1TheMysteriousPlanet}} Trial of a Time Lord]]'') quite effective. I blame the ''[[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures]]'', personally. They were so obsessed with exploring the darker underbelly of the series, probing the title character psychologically that they introduced a level of self-criticism for the titular character that as a result has been woven into [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS1E6Dalek}} the new series]] and has been taken on board by [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho Big Finish]]. Back when these audio adventures began they were brilliant, often gripping, sometimes funny standalone affairs that allowed the Doctor to play an active role in his adventures without finding himself at the end of some weighty accusations every five minutes.
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/signs-and-wonders-written-by-matt.html#uds-search-results Joe Ford]]'''

->I certainly didn't tune into ''Series/HappyDays'' to see a visibly pissed-off Richie screaming and yelling at the blind, petulant, self-pitying Fonzie to quit being a coward (when Fonzie, in all seriousness, [[SmiteMeOMightySmiter castigates God]] with, "I thought I was your favorite person!?" as he claws at his own eyes, the [[{{Narm}} grotesque vulgarity]] of the moment is truly breathtaking)...So why did the producers and writers attempt it? Was it requested by star Winkler, to give him something "[[TomHanksSyndrome real]]" to act, as opposed to all the "Whoas!" and "Aaaaays!"?
-->--'''[[http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/66103/happy-days-season-6/ Paul Mavis]]''' on the infamous ''Fonzie's Blindness''

->Perhaps the most controversial part of the series was the introduction of Section 31, a Federation secret police (so secret that [[HandWave nobody ever heard of them before]]) that carries out assassinations and genocide. Gene certainly wouldn't want that.
-->--'''''[[http://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A6671531 h2g2]]''''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''

-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/04/24/star-trek-enterprise-the-crossing-review/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''

-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'' [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18621_the-sadness-toy-story-measured-in-tears-5Bchart5D.html chart]]: The Sadness of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' Measured in [[TearJerker Tears]]

->[[RunningGag SHIT JUST GOT DOUBLE LOVECRAFTIAN]]
-->--'''Anonymous fa/tg/uy''', Roleplay/RubyQuest

->Oh my God, this movie is a black hole of humor. There are a few good chuckles in the first half with the ''Daily Planet'' crew and Kitty, but it just gets so damned serious and self-absorbed, and it doesn’t back any of it up with real content beyond the world’s most hilariously transparent Jesus imagery. This side of, like, ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', at least.
-->--'''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-superman-returns-2006-part-two/ on]] ''Film/SupermanReturns''

->While they’re often overlooked by super-hero fans, newspaper comic strips are a vital part of the world of sequential art that reaches millions of readers and is no less worthy of examination or criticism than their long-form counterparts. Unless, of course, we’re talking about Tom Batiuk’s ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean'', which started out 30 years ago as a high school comedy and evolved into a form that delivers three panels of pure, crushing despair directly at its readers on a daily basis.
-->--'''[[http://comicsalliance.com/funkywatch-decembers-11-most-depressing-funky-winkerbean-an/ Chris Sims]]'''

->Let's say, for sake of example, that you're sick of making [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} Companion Cube]] jokes, and suddenly do a serious storyline about [[Webcomic/CtrlAltDel your female character having a miscarriage]]. Obviously, [[TropesAreNotGood you'd need to have several blood clots in your brain]] to think this is a good idea; you're established as a wacky humour comic, so this is going to be an awkward [[MoodWhiplash tonal shift at best]], and hugely disrespectful of the subject matter at worst.

->[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Letting the world be]] is the opposite of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Philanthopy's]] motto, which was 'Fight for your beliefs'. This kind of drastic contradiction only makes sense in the context of Kojima's [[ArtistDisillusionment stark change in attitude]] over the years.
-->--'''Terry Wolfe''', [[http://www.metagearsolid.org/reports_mgs4_soldout_3.html "Metal Gear Soldout"]]

->Maybe ''[Masao]'' Kato reckoned that the fans who enjoyed ''Trigger'' when they were ten to fifteen years old deserved a sequel whose maturation was commensurate with their own experiences during the years since Trigger's release. ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is a fairy tale; a boyhood dream. ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' is [[RealityEnsues a bittersweet dose of reality]].
-->--'''Pat R.''', [[http://www.socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=cross "Triggers and Crosses"]]

->[[RuleOfThree SHIT JUST GOT TRIPLE LOVECRAFTIAN]]
-->--'''Anonymous fa/tg/uy''', Roleplay/RubyQuest

->''Of course, the first Mother game's slogan was "No crying until the ending", but this time, it really is what the game bases itself on... It's the only episode in which there are genuinely moving sequences and real character developments, which focus on the protagonists' fears and uncertainties that arise in the midst of Tazmily's mutating world. Of course, that Mother 3 is more "serious" doesn't mean it takes itself too seriously or tries too hard to be dark - it's very natural, with its own bizarre quirks.''

->Rob? H-having some trouble here! (''nervous laughter'') D-Dan's no longer cheesy! He's turned into a ''[[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique much darker]]'' 80's character!
-->--'''''[[WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob 80's Dan]]''''', "The [=McDLT=]"

->I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where they're about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.
-->--''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' on ''Film/ReturnToOz''

->Boy, ''Toy Story'' got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m--[[KillItWithFire BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'
-->--'''[[WebVideo/BumReviews Chester A Bum]]''' reviewing ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''

->Knowing that was being done by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously.

->[[HearingVoices Quit whispering in my ear, Cerberus!]]
-->--[[WordOfGod The author]] [[https://twitter.com/dantheshive/status/60474458619658240 of]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''

->'''Virus''': Never turn a funny comic into a serious epic drama. We have a [[SuicidePact murder-suicide pact]] that says if we ever turn into a drama, we're going to end it all rather than inflict that on the world.\\
'''Eastwood''': No, I said I was going to murder the rest of you, change my name and spend the rest of my days as a painter in Brazil.
-->--[[WordOfGod The authors of]] ''Webcomic/ExterminatusNow''

->These writers and the producer, who's very creative, were writing more and more about how painful it is to be immortal. And there was a little bit of existential crisis linked to, also, an [[FranchiseZombie inspirational crisis]], and it became a little less '[[RuleOfFun MTV Rock n' Roll.]]' By the time they went into ''Raven'', in my opinion, we were full-aheaded into a middle-aged crisis show... It was like a death wish. Nobody wanted to go on living forever. Everyone's saying, 'aaaahh, it's so hard living forever! I can't take it! [[CursedWithAwesome Everybody dies but me!]]' It started already on ''Highlander'', a little bit; and it always cracked me up because, basically, you'd think it'd be a great, blissful gift to be alive forever. Well, it became darker and darker and more painful.
-->--'''Dennis Berry''' on the aborted ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}: The Raven''

->Let's say, for sake of example, that you're sick of making Companion Cube jokes, and suddenly do a serious storyline about [[Webcomic/CtrlAltDel your female character having a miscarriage]]. Obviously, [[TropesAreNotGood you'd need to have several blood clots in your brain]] to think this is a good idea; you're established as a wacky humour comic, so this is going to be an awkward [[MoodWhiplash tonal shift at best]], and hugely disrespectful of the subject matter at worst.

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-->--[[WordOfGod The author]] [[https://twitter.com/#!/dantheshive/status/60474458619658240 of]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''

-->--'''Dr. Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/04/time-can-be-rewritten-4-man-in-velvet.html on]] the ''Literature/DoctorWhoMissingAdventures'' novel "The Man in the Velvet Mask"

->''Of course, the first Mother game's slogan was "No crying until the ending", but this time, it really is what the game bases itself on.''

-->--'''Dr. Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/04/time-can-be-rewritten-4-man-in-velvet.html on]] [[VirginMissingAdventures "The Man in the Velvet Mask"]]

'''Reginald:''' '''The what??'''\\

-->--'''Podcast/{{Rifftrax}}''' of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban''

->What's the word for when something that started out being funny ends up depressing the hell out of you? Insert that word here.
--> -- '''Jenny Lawson''', ''Let's Pretend This Never Happened''

->I'm not sure if I like this blame culture that has built up around the Doctor. It's not something that was often considered in the classic series which made the few times where his actions were called into account (''[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS3E5TheMassacre}} The Massacre]], [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks}} Genesis of the Daleks]], [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS23E1TheMysteriousPlanet}} Trial of a Time Lord]]'') quite effective. I blame the ''[[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures]]'', personally. They were so obsessed with exploring the darker underbelly of the series, probing the title character psychologically that they introduced a level of self-criticism for the titular character that as a result has been woven into [[the new series]] and has been taken on board by [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho Big Finish]]. Back when these audio adventures began they were brilliant, often gripping, sometimes funny standalone affairs that allowed the Doctor to play an active role in his adventures without finding himself at the end of some weighty accusations every five minutes.

->These writers and the producer, who's very creative, were writing more and more about how painful it is to be immortal. And there was a little bit of existential crisis linked to, also, an [[FranchiseZombie inspirational crisis]], and it became a little less '[[RuleOfFun MTV Rock n' Roll.]]' By the time they went into ''Raven'', in my opinion, we were full-aheaded into a middle-aged crisis show... It was like a death wish. Nobody wanted to go on living forever. Everyone's saying, 'aaaahh, it's so hard living forever! I can't take it! [[CursedWithAwesome Everybody dies but me!]]' It started already on ''Highlander'' a little bit; And it always cracked me up because, basically, you'd think it'd be a great, blissful gift to be alive forever. Well, it became darker and darker and more painful.

->These writers and the producer, who's very creative, were writing more and more about [[WhoWantsToLiveForever how painful it is to be immortal.]] And there was a little bit of existential crisis linked to, also, an [[FranchiseZombie inspirational crisis]], and it became a little less '[[RuleOfFun MTV Rock n' Roll.]]' By the time they went into ''Raven'', in my opinion, we were full-aheaded into a middle-aged crisis show... It was like a death wish. Nobody wanted to go on living forever. Everyone's saying, 'aaaahh, it's [[{{Wangst}} so hard living forever!]] I can't take it! [[CursedWithAwesome Everybody dies but me!]]' It started already on ''Highlander'' a little bit; And it always cracked me up because, basically, you'd think it'd be a great, blissful gift to be alive forever. Well, it became darker and darker and more painful.

I'm not sure when things changed, but I'm near broken-hearted

->I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.

-->--'''[[http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/66103/happy-days-season-6/ Paul Mavis]]'''

->I certainly didn't tune into ''Series/HappyDays'' to see a visibly pissed-off Richie screaming and yelling at the blind, petulant, self-pitying Fonzie to quit being a coward (when Fonzie, in all seriousness, castigates God with, "I thought I was your favorite person!?" as he claws at his own eyes, the [[{{Narm}} grotesque vulgarity]] of the moment is truly breathtaking)...So why did the producers and writers attempt it? Was it requested by star Winkler, to give him something "[[TomHanksSyndrome real]]" to act, as opposed to all the "Whoas!" and "Aaaaays!"?

->I certainly didn't tune into ''Series/HappyDays'' to see a visibly pissed-off Richie screaming and yelling at the blind, petulant, self-pitying Fonzie to quit being a coward (it played then--and now--just like some [[LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek third-rate ABC Afterschool Special]]), and I ''know'' the old man didn't, either (when Fonzie, in all seriousness, castigates God with, "I thought I was your favorite person!?" as he claws at his own eyes, the [[{{Narm}} grotesque vulgarity]] of the moment is truly breathtaking). So why did the producers and writers attempt it? Was it requested by star Winkler, to give him something "[[TomHanksSyndrome real]]" to act, as opposed to all the "Whoas!" and "Aaaaays!"?

->The whole exchange with Martha where he essentially asks her for permission to use the Clark Kent identity as a disguise is utterly pointless. He just spent a full year traipsing around in a [[PaintItBlack what-if-Johnny-Cash-were-a-Kryptonian]] outfit, committing [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters acts of terrorism]] and [[TheUnmasking crapping all over]] the civilian life he'd built for himself. All while his friends are being descended upon by a superhuman madman bent on turning the Earth into an [[HostileTerraforming exclusive beach resort]] for him and his closest fifty friends.\\\
I think at this point throwing on a pair of glasses and slouching a bit isn't going to come off as particularly horrifying to Ma Kent.
-->--'''[[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville10-ep13 Julian Finn]]''' on ''{{Series/Smallville}}'', "Beacon"

->''"How come we get all the Weevils and bollocks and shit? Is that what alien life is -- filth?"'' -- the antithesis of ''Doctor Who'' which promotes the universe as a playground to play in, ''Torchwood'' seems to suggest it is a cesspool that [[CosmicHorrorStory flings its excrement]] our way. Nice.
-->--'''[[http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5386390949828958591&postID=6384766376348952377&isPopup=true Joe Ford]]''' on ''{{Series/Torchwood}}'', [[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E1EverythingChanges}} "Everything Changes"]]

-->--'''Chiru''', ''Anime/Xabungle''

-->--[[WordofGod The authors of]] ''Webcomic/ExterminatusNow''

-->--[[WordofGod The author]] [[https://twitter.com/#!/dantheshive/status/60474458619658240 of]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''

->'''Mike:''' Let's talk about the premise: It takes place six months after Dorothy has gone to Oz, and the movie starts off with her [[ThousandYardStare lying in bed in a deep depression]], and her parents are talking about how she's [[CassandraTruth mentally deranged]] because she keeps talking about a place called Oz, so their solution is to take her to a Doctor to have her get [[BedlamHouse electroshock therapy on her brain in a psychiatric hospital.]]\\
'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.

->Knowing that was being doing by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously.