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->''"I tried really hard to remember some of those plot moments. I think there was a bit with a giant worm in ''Gears of War 2''. I ''do'' remember a moment in ''Gears of War 3'' where Marcus Fenix got very cross and [[ExcusePlot yelled at someone]]...What I was really after was some context as to why we hate the Locust when the only reason given for hating them is that they're ugly, violent and keep yelling mean things, in which case Marcus Fenix [[ScreamingWarrior probably shouldn't be throwing stones.]]"''
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/GearsOfWar: Ultimate Edition''

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->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"



->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"

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->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"
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->''"In judging policies we should consider the results that have been achieved through them rather than the means by which they have been executed."''
-->-- '''{{Niccolo Machiavelli}}''', letter to Piero Soderini
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->''"In judging policies we should consider the results that have been achieved through them rather than the means by which they have been executed."''
-->-- '''{{Niccolo Machiavelli}}''', letter to Piero Soderini

->''"James Bond is a blunt instrument wielded by a Government Department. He is quiet, hard, ruthless, sardonic, fatalistic."
-->--'''Creator/IanFleming'''
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->''"I tried really hard to remember some of those plot moments. I think there was a bit with a giant worm in ''Gears of War 2'' I do remember a moment in ''Gears of War 3'' where Marcus Fenix got very cross and yelled at someone...What I was really after was some context as to why we hate the Locust when the only reason given for hating them is that they're ugly, violent and keep yelling mean things, in which case Marcus Fenix [[ScreamingWarrior probably shouldn't be throwing stones.]]"''

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->''"I tried really hard to remember some of those plot moments. I think there was a bit with a giant worm in ''Gears of War 2'' 2''. I do ''do'' remember a moment in ''Gears of War 3'' where Marcus Fenix got very cross and [[ExcusePlot yelled at someone...someone]]...What I was really after was some context as to why we hate the Locust when the only reason given for hating them is that they're ugly, violent and keep yelling mean things, in which case Marcus Fenix [[ScreamingWarrior probably shouldn't be throwing stones.]]"''
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->''"I tried really hard to remember some of those plot moments. I think there was a bit with a giant worm in ''Gears of War 2'' I do remember a moment in ''Gears of War 3'' where Marcus Fenix got very cross and yelled at someone...What I was really after was some context as to why we hate the Locust when the only reason given for hating them is that they're ugly, violent and keep yelling mean things, in which case Marcus Fenix [[ScreamingWarrior probably shouldn't be throwing stones.]]"''
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/GearsOfWar: Ultimate Edition''
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-->--'''[[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]''', ''Literature/{{Worm}''

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-->--'''[[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]''', ''Literature/{{Worm}''
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->"How can I even explain? I’ve seen the worst of the worst. I want to protect each and every one of you from it. The system won’t stop them, not all on its own."
-->--'''[[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]''', ''Literature/{{Worm}''
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->''"The media likes to portray me as a senseless killer. I would point out that I am a [[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne very sensible killer."''

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->''"The media likes to portray me as a senseless killer. I would point out that I am a [[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne very sensible killer.killer]]."''
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-->-- Luffy, "''Manga/OnePiece''"

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-->-- Luffy, "''Manga/OnePiece''"
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-->-- Luffy, "''OnePiece''"

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-->-- Luffy, "''OnePiece''"
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-->-- '''Salvor Hardin''', {{Foundation}}

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-->-- '''Salvor Hardin''', {{Foundation}}
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->''"There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of [[DysfunctionJunction flawed and sexually corrupt human beings ever to have been assembled]] in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques."''

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->''"There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of [[DysfunctionJunction flawed and sexually corrupt human beings ever to have been assembled]] in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation organization and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques."''

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-->-- {{Crush 40}}, [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog I Am All of Me]]

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-->-- {{Crush {{Music/Crush 40}}, [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog I Am All of Me]]
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->''"There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of [[DysfunctionJunction flawed and sexually corrupt human beings]] ever to have been assembled in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques.""

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->''"There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of [[DysfunctionJunction flawed and sexually corrupt human beings]] beings ever to have been assembled assembled]] in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques."""''
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->There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of flawed and sexually corrupt human beings ever to have been assembled in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques.

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->There ->''"There has always been something of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of [[DysfunctionJunction flawed and sexually corrupt human beings beings]] ever to have been assembled in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques.""
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''"Friends or foes? That's something... you'll have to decide on your own!"''

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''"Friends ->''"Friends or foes? That's something... you'll have to decide on your own!"''

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->'''Athena''': We all joined [[FallenHero Handsome Jack]] for different reasons. For desperation....
->'''Wilhelm''': [[OnlyInItForTheMoney For money....]]
->'''Nisha''': [[BloodKnight For fun....]]
->'''Claptrap''': Because [[MyMasterRightOrWrong my programming forbade me from doing otherwise]]!
->'''Athena''': We're not the good guys. We're not even ''close'' to being the good guys. But today, we're going to save the world.
-->-- ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcGpsNvALI Last Hope trailer]]

->''One of the coldest, most evil souls I have ever encountered once told me that the reason I fought so hard to do what seemed right was that I was terrified to look within me and see the desire to cease the fight and do as I would, free of conscience or remorse.''
->''And now I could see that he had been right.''
->''I looked at the [[FallenAngel fallen angel]], patiently waiting, and was terrified.''
->''But there were innocent lives at stake: men and women and children who needed protection.''
->''[[DealWithTheDevil If I didn't give it to them, who would?]]''
-->-- '''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]]''', ''Literature/DeadBeat''

->'''James Gordon:''' Why is [[Franchise/{{Batman}} he]] running, Dad?
->'''Commissioner Gordon:''' Because we have to chase him.
->'''James Gordon:''' He didn't do anything wrong.
->'''Commissioner Gordon:''' Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero: He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector... a [[TitleDrop Dark Knight]].
-->-- ''Film/TheDarkKnight''

->''Now, here I lie in my own blood, and strangers cry for me''
->''I'm prepared to meet the gods, I wish they'd let me be''
->''I don't deserve their sympathy, I know who I am''
->''My soul is death and misery''
->''I am an evil man''
-->-- '''Music/AmonAmarth''', "'''The Hero'''"

->'''Elena Gilbert:''' ''Why won't you let anyone see the good in you?''
->'''Damon Salvatore:''' '' 'Cause when people see good, they expect good. And I don't wanna live up to anyone's expectations.''
-->-- '''Damon''', ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''

->[Are we] Friends or foes? That's something... you'll have to decide on your own!

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->'''Athena''': We all joined [[FallenHero Handsome Jack]] for different reasons. For desperation....
->'''Wilhelm''': [[OnlyInItForTheMoney For money....]]
->'''Nisha''': [[BloodKnight For fun....]]
->'''Claptrap''': Because [[MyMasterRightOrWrong my programming forbade me from doing otherwise]]!
->'''Athena''': We're not
->''"In judging policies we should consider the good guys. We're not even ''close'' to being results that have been achieved through them rather than the good guys. But today, we're going to save the world.
means by which they have been executed."''
-->-- ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcGpsNvALI Last Hope trailer]]

->''One of the coldest, most evil souls I have ever encountered once told me that the reason I fought so hard
'''{{Niccolo Machiavelli}}''', letter to do what seemed right was that I was terrified to look within me Piero Soderini
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and see the desire to cease the fight and do as I would, free of conscience or remorse.''
->''And now I could see that he had been right.''
->''I looked at the [[FallenAngel fallen angel]], patiently waiting, and was terrified.''
->''But there were innocent lives at stake: men and women and children who needed protection.''
->''[[DealWithTheDevil If I didn't give it to them, who would?]]''
-->-- '''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]]''', ''Literature/DeadBeat''

->'''James Gordon:''' Why is [[Franchise/{{Batman}} he]] running, Dad?
->'''Commissioner Gordon:''' Because we have to chase him.
->'''James Gordon:''' He didn't do anything wrong.
->'''Commissioner Gordon:''' Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero: He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector... a [[TitleDrop Dark Knight]].
-->-- ''Film/TheDarkKnight''

->''Now, here I lie in my own blood, and strangers cry for me''
->''I'm prepared to meet the gods, I wish they'd let me be''
->''I don't deserve their sympathy, I know who I am''
->''My soul is death and misery''
->''I am an evil man''
-->-- '''Music/AmonAmarth''', "'''The Hero'''"

->'''Elena Gilbert:''' ''Why won't you let anyone see the good in you?''
->'''Damon Salvatore:''' '' 'Cause when people see good, they expect good. And I don't wanna live up to anyone's expectations.''
-->-- '''Damon''', ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''

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Manga]]

''"Friends
or foes? That's something... you'll have to decide on your own!own!"''



->''"There is good, and there is evil. There are those who commit crimes and those who stop them. The two sides are opposite, as different as day and night, and the line between them is clear. Or at least, it's supposed to be..."''
-->-- '''[[{{Sidekick}} Robin]]''', ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''

->''"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right."''
-->-- '''Salvor Hardin''', {{Foundation}}

->''You both have [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childlike ideals]]. Believing in simplicity and shouldering the role of a criminal for the sake of that ideal. Turning yourselves into the greatest evil to eliminate all the small evils in this world. You and Kiritsugu act like the saviors we call '[[AntiHero anti-heroes]]'.''
-->-- '''Kotomine''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' (game)

->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"

->''That is the end of this war. That is the responsibility I took when I swore to be a {{superhero}}. It is the first price I have to pay to become my ideal. There's no need to talk about the obvious outcome. Emiya Shirou will turn his mind to steel, and become a {{superhero}}.''
-->-- '''Shirou''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' [[MultipleEndings bad end]] #30: Mind of Steel

->''Men have this idea that [[HonorBeforeReason they can fight with dignity]], that there is a proper way to kill someone...it's absurd. We need that idea, to endure the bloody horror of murder. You must destroy this idea. [[BreakTheBadass Show them what a messy, terrible thing it is to kill a man]], and show them that [[BloodKnight you relish in it]]. Shoot to wound, then execute the wounded, burn them, take them in close combat. Destroy any preconceptions as to what a man is and you become their personal monster...when they fear you, you become stronger, you become better. But let's never forget--it's a display, a posture, like a lion's roar or a gorilla thumping at his chest. If you lose yourself in the display, if you succumb to the horror, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters you become the monster]]...not more of a man, but less...and it can be fatal.''
-->-- '''The Jackal''', ''VideoGame/FarCry2''

->''The media likes to portray me as a senseless killer. I would point out that I am a very sensible killer.''
-->-- '''Comicbook/ThePunisher'''

->''Let me break down the differences for you. In R-rated movies, the good guy only kills in self-defense. RR-rated movies are allowed to blur the line. Man, I saw this one RR-rated movie where the good guy stepped on a rabbit. He didn't kill it, but, later on, he wished he did! The'' good ''guy! That's messed up, man! You can't let kids watch that!''
-->-- '''[[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]]''', sbemail "rated"

-> '''Kid:''' (''snatches an enemy craft filled with pleading {{Mook}}s out of the air'') What do we do, Isaac? They want to be saved.\\
'''Isaac''': Those who would make good people cry... (''eye twinkle with AudibleGleam'')... deserve '''no mercy'''. (''cue the enemy craft, and the {{Mook}}s inside, getting crushed in Braiger's big blue claw'')

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->''"There ->''"[[ThinkNothingOfIt Glorification is good, and there is evil. There are only fitting for those who commit crimes and those who stop them. The two sides are opposite, as different as day and night, and in the line between them is clear. Or at least, it's supposed to be..."''
light.]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo Shadows shall proceed down the necessary path.]]"''
-->-- '''[[{{Sidekick}} Robin]]''', ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''

->''"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right."''
-->-- '''Salvor Hardin''', {{Foundation}}

->''You both have [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childlike ideals]]. Believing in simplicity and shouldering the role of a criminal for the sake of that ideal. Turning yourselves into the greatest evil to eliminate all the small evils in this world. You and Kiritsugu act like the saviors we call '[[AntiHero anti-heroes]]'.''
-->-- '''Kotomine''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' (game)

->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"

->''That is the end of this war. That is the responsibility I took when I swore to be a {{superhero}}. It is the first price I have to pay to become my ideal. There's no need to talk about the obvious outcome. Emiya Shirou will turn his mind to steel, and become a {{superhero}}.''
-->-- '''Shirou''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' [[MultipleEndings bad end]] #30: Mind of Steel

->''Men have this idea that [[HonorBeforeReason they can fight with dignity]], that there is a proper way to kill someone...it's absurd. We need that idea, to endure the bloody horror of murder. You must destroy this idea. [[BreakTheBadass Show them what a messy, terrible thing it is to kill a man]], and show them that [[BloodKnight you relish in it]]. Shoot to wound, then execute the wounded, burn them, take them in close combat. Destroy any preconceptions as to what a man is and you become their personal monster...when they fear you, you become stronger, you become better. But let's never forget--it's a display, a posture, like a lion's roar or a gorilla thumping at his chest. If you lose yourself in the display, if you succumb to the horror, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters you become the monster]]...not more of a man, but less...and it can be fatal.''
-->-- '''The Jackal''', ''VideoGame/FarCry2''

->''The media likes to portray me as a senseless killer. I would point out that I am a very sensible killer.''
-->-- '''Comicbook/ThePunisher'''

->''Let me break down the differences for you. In R-rated movies, the good guy only kills in self-defense. RR-rated movies are allowed to blur the line. Man, I saw this one RR-rated movie where the good guy stepped on a rabbit. He didn't kill it, but, later on, he wished he did! The'' good ''guy! That's messed up, man! You can't let kids watch that!''
-->-- '''[[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]]''', sbemail "rated"

'''Blaster Dark Revenger''', ''Anime/CardfightVanguard''

-> '''Kid:''' (''snatches an enemy craft filled with pleading {{Mook}}s out of the air'') What do we do, Isaac? They want to be saved.\\
'''Isaac''': Those who would make good people cry... (''eye twinkle with AudibleGleam'')... deserve '''no mercy'''. (''cue the enemy craft, and the {{Mook}}s inside, getting crushed in Braiger's big blue claw'')



->''I see and feel the evil''
->''My hands will crush 'em all''
->''You think you have the answer''
->''I'll laugh and watch you fall''
->''Black hearted evil''
->''Brave hearted hero''
->''I am all, I am all I am''
-->-- {{Crush 40}}, [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog I Am All of Me]]

-> '''Spider-Girl:''' I don't know what's suddenly gotten into you, but you can't go around destroying property and beating people! '''You just CAN'T!''' You're ''supposed'' to be one of the good guys!\\
'''Darkdevil:''' Back off, Pollyanna! I don't have time for fairy tales. Maybe I'm not your idea of a hero... but there's no Santa Claus, either.
-->-- ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl #12: Duel With Darkdevil''

-> '''Psychologist''': [[WordAssociationTest Murder]].
-> '''Film/JamesBond''': Employment.

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->''I see and feel the evil''
->''My hands will crush 'em all''
->''You think you have the answer''
->''I'll laugh and watch you fall''
->''Black hearted evil''
->''Brave hearted hero''
->''I am all,
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->''"The media likes to portray me as a senseless killer. I would point out that
I am all I am''
a [[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne very sensible killer."''
-->-- {{Crush 40}}, [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog I Am All of Me]]

-> '''Spider-Girl:''' I don't know what's suddenly gotten into you, but you can't go around destroying property and beating people! '''You just CAN'T!''' You're ''supposed'' to be one of the good guys!\\
'''Darkdevil:'''
'''Comicbook/ThePunisher'''

->''"[[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids
Back off, Pollyanna! Pollyanna!]] I don't have time for fairy tales. Maybe I'm not your idea of a hero... but there's no Santa Claus, either.
either."''
-->-- '''Darkdevil''', ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl #12: Duel With Darkdevil''

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-> '''Psychologist''': [[WordAssociationTest Murder]].
->
[WordAssociationTest] "Murder."\\
'''Film/JamesBond''': Employment.



-> ''In judging policies we should consider the results that have been achieved through them rather than the means by which they have been executed.''
-->-- ''In a letter to Piero Soderini from {{Niccolo Machiavelli}}''

->''"I may be on the side of the angels, but don't think for one second that I am one of them."''
-->-- '''Sherlock Holmes''', ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''

->VRISKA: I only ever wanted to do the right thing no matter how it made people judge me, and I don't need a magic ring to do that....
->VRISKA: And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
->VRISKA: You just have to know who you are and stay true to that.
->VRISKA: So I'm going to keep fighting for people the only way I ever knew how.
->VRISKA: 8y 8eing me.
-->-- Vriska, ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}''

-> [[ThinkNothingOfIt Glorification is only fitting for those in the light.]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo Shadows shall proceed down the necessary path.]]
-->-- '''Blaster Dark Revenger''', ''Anime/CardfightVanguard''

-> ''We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the [[FunWithAcronyms Film Actors Guild]]... are pussies. And Kim Jong Il... is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick. With some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes, themselves. Because pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies... all covered in shit.''

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-> ''In judging policies ->'''James Gordon:''' Why is he running, Dad?\\
'''Commissioner Jim Gordon:''' Because
we should consider the results that have been achieved through them rather than to chase him.\\
'''James Gordon:''' He didn't do anything wrong.\\
'''Commissioner Gordon:''' Because he's
the means by which they have been executed.''
hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
-->-- ''In a letter to Piero Soderini from {{Niccolo Machiavelli}}''

->''"I may be on the side of the angels, but don't think for one second that I am one of them."''
-->-- '''Sherlock Holmes''', ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''

->VRISKA: I only ever wanted to do the right thing no matter how it made people judge me, and I don't need a magic ring to do that....
->VRISKA: And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
->VRISKA: You just have to know who you are and stay true to that.
->VRISKA: So I'm going to keep fighting for people the only way I ever knew how.
->VRISKA: 8y 8eing me.
-->-- Vriska, ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}''

-> [[ThinkNothingOfIt Glorification is only fitting for those in the light.]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo Shadows shall proceed down the necessary path.]]
-->-- '''Blaster Dark Revenger''', ''Anime/CardfightVanguard''

-> ''We're
''Film/TheDarkKnight''

->''"We're
dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the [[FunWithAcronyms Film Actors Guild]]... are pussies. And Kim Jong Il... is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick. With some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes, themselves. Because pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies... all covered in shit.''"''



-> He is, in fact Ragna follows the archetype to a fault at times. While the anti-hero has become very broad in recent years, the basic outline of an anti-hero is a character who is rejected by and/or subsequently openly fights against society, specifically the set principals and authority that rule them. What follows is a long, but necessary explanation to get the point across. Just...try to bare with it.

-> The anti-hero usually begins as a social outcast amidst the servile, brainwashed, general populous. Struggling to conform, all the while beginning to object, one is either ridiculed into leaving, forcefully cast out, or has personal reasons for doing so. One may possibly find fellow outsiders, subsequently make allies and that is how the story of an anti-heroes usually begins.

-> Ideally, one who stands against an oppressive government should be physically strong and inspire those around them to join him/her but unlike the hero, the anti-hero isn't ideal. An anti-hero typically doesn't have a set of principals. They are quicker to violence, often selfish, and have respectable, yet underdeveloped traits. The anti-hero is out for ones' own personal ends, and will stop at nothing to reach them.

-> It is the purpose of the anti-hero to fight against, and thus reveal the hypocrisy of humanity. The falsehoods and tactics used to oppress the people are null and void before an anti-hero as one fights against the corrupt authority that charms many with the illusion that the dangers of humanity are well under control.

-> Since anti-heroes lack moral principals, they can make choices a hero cannot. If the situation demanded, they could murder children because they abandoned their morality long ago. While in many ways, this does make the anti-hero more versatile and practical, it also makes the anti-hero very unpredictable and difficult to control. In other words, they're very dangerous, which is usually the reason why they were shunned, feared, and subsequently exiled to begin with.

-> Spawn
-> Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia)
-> Yusuke Urameshi(Yu Yu Hakusho)
-> Bayonetta
-> Lelouch(Code Geass)

-> These are all prime examples of anti-hero protagonists. Ragna fits within this archetype as well. He's a social outcast, fights against society, has no principals, quick to violence, and generally hates authority to the point where even his master Jubei has difficulties getting him to listen at times. The anti-hero is my favorite archetype, so trust me on this.

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[[folder:Literature]]

->''"Never let your sense
of an anti-hero is a character who is rejected by and/or subsequently openly fights against society, specifically the set principals and authority that rule them. What follows is a long, but necessary explanation to get the point across. Just...try to bare with it.

-> The anti-hero usually begins as a social outcast amidst the servile, brainwashed, general populous. Struggling to conform, all the while beginning to object, one is either ridiculed into leaving, forcefully cast out, or has personal reasons for
morals prevent you from doing so. One may possibly find fellow outsiders, subsequently make allies and that what is how the story of an anti-heroes usually begins.

-> Ideally, one who stands against an oppressive government should be physically strong and inspire those around them to join him/her but unlike the hero, the anti-hero isn't ideal. An anti-hero typically doesn't have a set of principals. They are quicker to violence, often selfish, and have respectable, yet underdeveloped traits. The anti-hero is out for ones' own personal ends, and will stop at nothing to reach them.

-> It is the purpose
right."''
-->-- '''Salvor Hardin''', {{Foundation}}

->''"One
of the anti-hero to fight against, and thus reveal the hypocrisy of humanity. The falsehoods and tactics used to oppress the people are null and void before an anti-hero as one fights against the corrupt authority coldest, most evil souls I have ever encountered once told me that charms many with the illusion that the dangers of humanity are well under control.

-> Since anti-heroes lack moral principals, they can make choices a hero cannot. If the situation demanded, they could murder children because they abandoned their morality long ago. While in many ways, this does make the anti-hero more versatile and practical, it also makes the anti-hero very unpredictable and difficult to control. In other words, they're very dangerous, which is usually
the reason why I fought so hard to do what seemed right was that I was terrified to look within me and see the desire to cease the fight and do as I would, free of conscience or remorse.\\\
And now I could see that he had been right."''
-->-- '''[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]]''', ''Literature/DeadBeat''

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[[folder:Music]]

->''Now, here I lie in my own blood, and strangers cry for me''
->''I'm prepared to meet the gods, I wish they'd let me be''
->''I don't deserve their sympathy, I know who I am''
->''My soul is death and misery''
->''I am an evil man''
-->-- '''Music/AmonAmarth''', "'''The Hero'''"

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[[folder:Live-action TV]]

->''"I may be on the side of the angels, but don't think for '''one second''' that I am one of them."''
-->-- '''Sherlock Holmes''', ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''

->'''Elena Gilbert:''' ''Why won't you let anyone see the good in you?''\\
'''Damon Salvatore:''' '' 'Cause when people see good,
they were shunned, feared, ''expect'' good. And I don't wanna live up to anyone's expectations.''
-->-- '''Damon''', ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''

[[/folder]]


->''Whatever happened to all the heroes?''
->''All the Shakespearoes?''
->''They watched their Rome burn''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''Whatever happened to the heroes?''
->''No more heroes anymore''
->''No more heroes anymore''
-->-- '''The Stranglers''', "'''No More Heroes'''"

[[folder:video games]]


->''I see
and subsequently exiled feel the evil''
->''My hands will crush 'em all''
->''You think you have the answer''
->''I'll laugh and watch you fall''
->''Black hearted evil''
->''Brave hearted hero''
->''I am all, I am all I am''
-->-- {{Crush 40}}, [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog I Am All of Me]]

->''"We're not the good guys. We're not even ''close''
to begin with.

-> Spawn
-> Yuri Lowell(Tales
being the good guys. But today, we're going to save the world."''
-->-- '''Athena''', ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcGpsNvALI Last Hope trailer]]

->''That is the end
of Vesperia)
-> Yusuke Urameshi(Yu Yu Hakusho)
-> Bayonetta
-> Lelouch(Code Geass)
this war. That is the responsibility I took when I swore to be a {{superhero}}. It is the first price I have to pay to become my ideal. There's no need to talk about the obvious outcome. Emiya Shirou will turn his mind to steel, and become a {{superhero}}.''
-->-- '''Shirou''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' [[MultipleEndings bad end]] #30: Mind of Steel

->''You both have [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childlike ideals]]. Believing in simplicity and shouldering the role of a criminal for the sake of that ideal. Turning yourselves into the greatest evil to eliminate all the small evils in this world. You and Kiritsugu act like the saviors we call '[[AntiHero anti-heroes]]'.''
-->-- '''Kotomine''', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''

->''"Men have this idea that [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen they can fight with dignity]], that there is a proper way to kill someone...it's absurd. We need that idea, to endure the bloody horror of murder. You must destroy this idea. Show them what a messy, terrible thing it is to kill a man, and show them that [[BloodKnight you relish in it]]. Shoot to wound, then execute the wounded, burn them, take them in close combat. Destroy any preconceptions as to what a man is and you become their personal monster...when they fear you, you become stronger, you become better."''
-->-- '''The Jackal''', ''VideoGame/FarCry2''

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Web Animation]]

->''"In R-rated movies, the good guy only kills in self-defense. R-rated movies are allowed to blur the line. Man, I saw this one RR-rated movie where the good guy stepped on a rabbit. He didn't kill it, but, later on, he wished he did! The'' good ''guy! That's messed up, man!"''
-->-- '''[[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]]''', sbemail "rated"

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Webcomics]]

->VRISKA: I only ever wanted to do the right thing no matter how it made people judge me, and I don't need a magic ring to do that....
->VRISKA: And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

-> These ->VRISKA: You just have to know who you are all prime examples and stay true to that.
->VRISKA: So I'm going to keep fighting for people the only way I ever knew how.
->VRISKA: 8y 8eing me.
-->-- Vriska, ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}''

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Web Original]]

->There has always been something
of the bizarre about the {{Series/Torchwood}} team but until now it has just been the most collection of flawed and sexually corrupt human beings ever to have been assembled in one environment. To have the man who cannot die heading the organisation and the man who died and lives on as their Chief Medical Officer seems to fit somehow. A true bunch of grotesques.
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/a-day-in-death-written-by-joseph.html Joe Ford]]'''

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Web Video]]

->''"It is the purpose of the
anti-hero protagonists. Ragna fits within this archetype as well. He's a social outcast, fights against society, has no principals, quick to violence, fight against, and generally hates authority to thus reveal the point where even his master Jubei has difficulties getting him to listen at times. The anti-hero is my favorite archetype, so trust me on this.hypocrisy of humanity."''


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The anti-hero usually begins as a social outcast amidst the servile, brainwashed, general populous. Struggling to conform, all the while beginning to object, one is either ridiculed into leaving, forcefully cast out, or has personal reasons for doing so. One may possibly find fellow outsiders, subsequently make allies and that is how the story of an anti-heroes usually begins.

Ideally, one who stands against an oppressive government should be physically strong and inspire those around them to join him/her but unlike the hero, the anti-hero isn't ideal. An anti-hero typically doesn't have a set of principals. They are quicker to violence, often selfish, and have respectable, yet underdeveloped traits. The anti-hero is out for ones' own personal ends, and will stop at nothing to reach them.

It is the purpose of the anti-hero to fight against, and thus reveal the hypocrisy of humanity. The falsehoods and tactics used to oppress the people are null and void before an anti-hero as one fights against the corrupt authority that charms many with the illusion that the dangers of humanity are well under control.

Since anti-heroes lack moral principals, they can make choices a hero cannot. If the situation demanded, they could murder children because they abandoned their morality long ago. While in many ways, this does make the anti-hero more versatile and practical, it also makes the anti-hero very unpredictable and difficult to control. In other words, they're very dangerous, which is usually the reason why they were shunned, feared, and subsequently exiled to begin with.

Spawn
Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia)
Yusuke Urameshi(Yu Yu Hakusho)
Bayonetta
Lelouch(Code Geass)

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-> The anti-hero usually begins as a social outcast amidst the servile, brainwashed, general populous. Struggling to conform, all the while beginning to object, one is either ridiculed into leaving, forcefully cast out, or has personal reasons for doing so. One may possibly find fellow outsiders, subsequently make allies and that is how the story of an anti-heroes usually begins.

-> Ideally, one who stands against an oppressive government should be physically strong and inspire those around them to join him/her but unlike the hero, the anti-hero isn't ideal. An anti-hero typically doesn't have a set of principals. They are quicker to violence, often selfish, and have respectable, yet underdeveloped traits. The anti-hero is out for ones' own personal ends, and will stop at nothing to reach them.

-> It is the purpose of the anti-hero to fight against, and thus reveal the hypocrisy of humanity. The falsehoods and tactics used to oppress the people are null and void before an anti-hero as one fights against the corrupt authority that charms many with the illusion that the dangers of humanity are well under control.

-> Since anti-heroes lack moral principals, they can make choices a hero cannot. If the situation demanded, they could murder children because they abandoned their morality long ago. While in many ways, this does make the anti-hero more versatile and practical, it also makes the anti-hero very unpredictable and difficult to control. In other words, they're very dangerous, which is usually the reason why they were shunned, feared, and subsequently exiled to begin with.

-> Spawn
-> Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia)
-> Yusuke Urameshi(Yu Yu Hakusho)
-> Bayonetta
-> Lelouch(Code Geass)



These are all prime examples of anti-hero protagonists. Ragna fits within this archetype as well. He's a social outcast, fights against society, has no principals, quick to violence, and generally hates authority to the point where even his master Jubei has difficulties getting him to listen at times. The anti-hero is my favorite archetype, so trust me on this.

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-> These are all prime examples of anti-hero protagonists. Ragna fits within this archetype as well. He's a social outcast, fights against society, has no principals, quick to violence, and generally hates authority to the point where even his master Jubei has difficulties getting him to listen at times. The anti-hero is my favorite archetype, so trust me on this.
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-> '''Kid''': *snatches an enemy craft filled with pleading {{Mook}}s out of the air* What do we do, Isaac? They want to be saved.
-> '''Isaac''': Those who would make good people cry...*eye twinkle with AudibleGleam*...deserve '''no mercy'''. *Cue the enemy craft, and the {{Mook}}s inside, getting crushed in Braiger's big blue claw.*
-->-- ''{{Braiger}}'', first episode

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-> '''Kid''': *snatches '''Kid:''' (''snatches an enemy craft filled with pleading {{Mook}}s out of the air* air'') What do we do, Isaac? They want to be saved.
->
saved.\\
'''Isaac''': Those who would make good people cry...*eye cry... (''eye twinkle with AudibleGleam*...AudibleGleam'')... deserve '''no mercy'''. *Cue (''cue the enemy craft, and the {{Mook}}s inside, getting crushed in Braiger's big blue claw.*
claw'')
-->-- ''{{Braiger}}'', ''Anime/{{Braiger}}'', first episode
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-> '''Spider-Girl''': I don't know what's suddenly gotten into you, but you can't go around destroying property and beating people! '''You just CAN'T!''' You're ''supposed'' to be one of the good guys!
-> '''Darkdevil''': Back off, Pollyanna! I don't have time for fairy tales. Maybe I'm not your idea of a hero...but there's no Santa Claus, either.
-->-- ''[[SpiderGirl Spider-Girl]] #12: Duel With Darkdevil''

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-> '''Spider-Girl''': '''Spider-Girl:''' I don't know what's suddenly gotten into you, but you can't go around destroying property and beating people! '''You just CAN'T!''' You're ''supposed'' to be one of the good guys!
-> '''Darkdevil''':
guys!\\
'''Darkdevil:'''
Back off, Pollyanna! I don't have time for fairy tales. Maybe I'm not your idea of a hero... but there's no Santa Claus, either.
-->-- ''[[SpiderGirl Spider-Girl]] ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl #12: Duel With Darkdevil''
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-> He is, in fact Ragna follows the archetype to a fault at times. While the anti-hero has become very broad in recent years, the basic outline of an anti-hero is a character who is rejected by and/or subsequently openly fights against society, specifically the set principals and authority that rule them. What follows is a long, but necessary explanation to get the point across. Just...try to bare with it.

The anti-hero usually begins as a social outcast amidst the servile, brainwashed, general populous. Struggling to conform, all the while beginning to object, one is either ridiculed into leaving, forcefully cast out, or has personal reasons for doing so. One may possibly find fellow outsiders, subsequently make allies and that is how the story of an anti-heroes usually begins.

Ideally, one who stands against an oppressive government should be physically strong and inspire those around them to join him/her but unlike the hero, the anti-hero isn't ideal. An anti-hero typically doesn't have a set of principals. They are quicker to violence, often selfish, and have respectable, yet underdeveloped traits. The anti-hero is out for ones' own personal ends, and will stop at nothing to reach them.

It is the purpose of the anti-hero to fight against, and thus reveal the hypocrisy of humanity. The falsehoods and tactics used to oppress the people are null and void before an anti-hero as one fights against the corrupt authority that charms many with the illusion that the dangers of humanity are well under control.

Since anti-heroes lack moral principals, they can make choices a hero cannot. If the situation demanded, they could murder children because they abandoned their morality long ago. While in many ways, this does make the anti-hero more versatile and practical, it also makes the anti-hero very unpredictable and difficult to control. In other words, they're very dangerous, which is usually the reason why they were shunned, feared, and subsequently exiled to begin with.

Spawn
Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia)
Yusuke Urameshi(Yu Yu Hakusho)
Bayonetta
Lelouch(Code Geass)

These are all prime examples of anti-hero protagonists. Ragna fits within this archetype as well. He's a social outcast, fights against society, has no principals, quick to violence, and generally hates authority to the point where even his master Jubei has difficulties getting him to listen at times. The anti-hero is my favorite archetype, so trust me on this.
-->-- '''Ninja07Keaton''', ''Youtube''
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->'''Claptrap''': Because my programming forbade me from doing otherwise!

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->'''Claptrap''': Because [[MyMasterRightOrWrong my programming forbade me from doing otherwise!otherwise]]!
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-->-- ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[Last Hope trailer]]

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-->-- ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[Last [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcGpsNvALI Last Hope trailer]]
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->'''Athena''': We all joined [[FallenHero handsome Jack]] for different reasons. For desperation....

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->'''Athena''': We all joined [[FallenHero handsome Handsome Jack]] for different reasons. For desperation....
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->'''Athena''': We all joined [[FallenHero handsome Jack]] for different reasons. For desperation....
->'''Wilhelm''': [[OnlyInItForTheMoney For money....]]
->'''Nisha''': [[BloodKnight For fun....]]
->'''Claptrap''': Because my programming forbade me from doing otherwise!
->'''Athena''': We're not the good guys. We're not even ''close'' to being the good guys. But today, we're going to save the world.
-->-- ''Videogame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', [[Last Hope trailer]]
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-> ''The world is a dangerous place. In order for people like you to live in relative safety, there need to be people like me.''
-->-- '''Skulduggery Pleasant''', ''[[Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant The Faceless Ones]]''
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-->-- SkulduggeryPleasant, ''The Faceless Ones''

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-->-- SkulduggeryPleasant, ''The '''Skulduggery Pleasant''', ''[[Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant The Faceless Ones''Ones]]''
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-> ''The world is a dangerous place. In order for people like you to live in relative safety, there need to people like me.''

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-> ''The world is a dangerous place. In order for people like you to live in relative safety, there need to be people like me.''
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-->-- SkulduggeryPleasant, ''The Faceless Ones''
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-> ''We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the [[FunWithAcronyms Film Actors Guild]]... are pussies. And Kim Jong Il... is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick. With some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes, themselves. Because pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies... all covered in shit.''
-->-- '''Gary Jonhston''', ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice''

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