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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ExactWords You're too young to go by yourself. They probably won't let you in.]] [[ChewOutFakeOut So I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ExactWords You're too young to go by yourself. They probably won't might not let you in.]] [[ChewOutFakeOut So I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ExactWords You're too young to go by yourself. They probably won't let you in.]] [[ChewOutFakeOut I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ExactWords You're too young to go by yourself. They probably won't let you in.]] [[ChewOutFakeOut So I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut You're too young to go on your own. They probably won't let you in. I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut ''"[[ExactWords You're too young to go on your own.by yourself. They probably won't let you in. ]] [[ChewOutFakeOut I'll go ahead and come with you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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* '''Played For Horror''': The son had threaten the dad with a gun and impulsively fires a warning shot, causing the dad to reassure he already said yes.
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* '''Invoked''': Permission is given in a very ambiguous manner, in the hopes that the character will launch into a MotiveRant and explain why s/he suddenly wants to do this.
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* '''Invoked''': Permission is given in a very ambiguous manner, in the hopes that the character will launch into a MotiveRant and explain why s/he they suddenly wants want to do this.
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut You're too young to go on your own. They probably won't let you in. I'll go ahead come with you.]]"''
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-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut You're too young to go on your own. They probably won't let you in. I'll go ahead and come with you.you. We'll just drive over there.]]"''
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-->'''Son''': ''"[[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne What do you mean they won't let me in?! A lot of kids like me are-]] Wait, so I ''can'' go see it?
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-->'''Son''': ''"[[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne What do you mean they won't let me in?! A lot of kids like me are-]] Wait, so I ''can'' '''''can''''' go see it?it?"''
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Zagged''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely not. You're too young."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Oh, ok, cool! I'll be back by ten, don't wait up, and...wait, what?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut You're too young to go on your own. They probably won't let you in. I'll go ahead come with you.]]"''
-->'''Son''': ''"[[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne What do you mean they won't let me in?! A lot of kids like me are-]] Wait, so I ''can'' go see it?
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely not. You're too young."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Oh, ok, cool! I'll be back by ten, don't wait up, and...wait, what?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"[[ChewOutFakeOut You're too young to go on your own. They probably won't let you in. I'll go ahead come with you.]]"''
-->'''Son''': ''"[[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne What do you mean they won't let me in?! A lot of kids like me are-]] Wait, so I ''can'' go see it?
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* '''Exaggerated''': As above, but the son asks several more times before accepting "yes".
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* '''Exaggerated''': As above, but the The son asks several more times before accepting "yes".
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-->'''Dad''': ''"Son, why don't you go see Alice and the Tropers downtown. You can take the train."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Yeah, that's a good idea!"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Now son you really need to get out mo... Oh you said yeah, never mind."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Son, why don't you go see Alice and the Tropers downtown. You can take the train."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Yeah, that's a good idea!"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Now son you really need to get out mo... Oh you said yeah, never mind."''
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-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
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-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, could I go downtown so I can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
Tropers?"''
-->'''Dad''':''"Sure!"''
''"Sure! I'll drive you there!"''
-->'''Son''':''"Ok, thanks!"''''"But-! ... But I need to go to the loo first."''
-->'''Dad''':
-->'''Son''':
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'''Averted''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
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"This character usually comes with outrageous demands. Let's show the fact that he never gets accepted in a clear way."
* '''Lampshaded''':???
''"... Son, I think it's time you learned what 'yes' means."''
* '''Invoked''':???
Permission is given in a very ambiguous manner, in the hopes that the character will launch into a MotiveRant and explain why s/he suddenly wants to do this.
* '''Exploited''':???The character acts like he won't take yes for an answer in the hopes someone will understand that he doesn't want to do this.
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
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* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Exploited''':
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--> '''Dad''': ''"Sure! And keep in mind...I'm saying yes, so you don't need to argue..."''
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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--> '''Dad''': ''"Sure! And keep in mind...mind, I'm saying yes, so you don't need to argue..."''
* '''Discussed''':???
"Honey, I think you're being too strict with our son. Look how he reacts whenever you do give him permission to do something."
* '''Conversed''':???"I wonder how many people actually do that."
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* '''Conversed''':
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But the Main page is filled with so many more examples of the trope- Oh. You wanted to.
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-->'''Dad''': ''"Son, why don't you go see Alice and the Tropers downtown. You can take the train."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Yeah, that's a good idea!"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Now son you really need to get out mo... Oh you said yeah, never mind."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Son, why don't you go see Alice and the Tropers downtown. You can take the train."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Yeah, that's a good idea!"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Now son you really need to get out mo... Oh you said yeah, never mind."''
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* '''Averted''': See "subverted".
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* '''Averted''': See "subverted".???
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'''Basic Trope''': A character asks a question of another and, not expecting "yes" as an answer, launches into a spiel to convince them to change their mind.
* '''Straight''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely, son. Have a good time!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"But, but I'm old enough, and I've saved up money, and I won't get lost, and...wait, what?"''
* '''Exaggerated''': As above, but the son asks several more times before accepting "yes".
* '''Downplayed''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely, son. Have a good time!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"But, but, I'm...oh, ok. Thanks!"''
* '''Justified''': The son is expecting the answer "no", so he has his rebuttal prepared in advance.
* '''Inverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely not. You're too young."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Oh, ok, cool! I'll be back by ten, don't wait up, and...wait, what?"''
* '''Subverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
* '''Double Subverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''(beat) "Wait, did you say no? But, but, I'm old enough, and I won't get lost, and I've saved up money, and..."''
* '''Parodied''': The son keeps asking the dad's permission (and the dad keeps giving it) long after the event, and even when the men are well into old age.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': See "subverted".
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''':
--> '''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers?"''
--> '''Dad''': ''"Sure! And keep in mind...I'm saying yes, so you don't need to argue..."''
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
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%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
* '''Straight''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely, son. Have a good time!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"But, but I'm old enough, and I've saved up money, and I won't get lost, and...wait, what?"''
* '''Exaggerated''': As above, but the son asks several more times before accepting "yes".
* '''Downplayed''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely, son. Have a good time!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"But, but, I'm...oh, ok. Thanks!"''
* '''Justified''': The son is expecting the answer "no", so he has his rebuttal prepared in advance.
* '''Inverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers downtown? I can take the train."''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Absolutely not. You're too young."''
-->'''Son''': ''"Oh, ok, cool! I'll be back by ten, don't wait up, and...wait, what?"''
* '''Subverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I see Alice and The Tropers downtown?"''
-->'''Dad''': ''"Sure!"''
-->'''Son''': ''"Ok, thanks!"''
* '''Double Subverted''':
-->'''Son''': ''(beat) "Wait, did you say no? But, but, I'm old enough, and I won't get lost, and I've saved up money, and..."''
* '''Parodied''': The son keeps asking the dad's permission (and the dad keeps giving it) long after the event, and even when the men are well into old age.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': See "subverted".
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''':
--> '''Son''': ''"Hey, dad, can I go see Alice and The Tropers?"''
--> '''Dad''': ''"Sure! And keep in mind...I'm saying yes, so you don't need to argue..."''
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
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