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** All of his resurrections cause John to grow indifferent to death as a whole, and begin to value his life, as well as those of other's, less.
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** The alternative would be to let someone else [[KilledOffForReal permanently die]]
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** The alternative would be to let someone else [[KilledOffForReal permanently die]]die]].
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** John is asked to die for increasingly minor or silly reasons.
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** John is asked (or asks others for him) to die for increasingly minor or silly reasons.
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': ???A new member of the squad questions whether it's ethical to keep letting John get killed, and John and the old team members discuss their reasons with her.
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** While John may recovery physically he becomes increasingly traumatized over dying repeatably - he is not only personally a wreck but completely unable to assist the squad given that he can't even look at a butter knife without having a panic attack.
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** While John may recovery physically he becomes increasingly traumatized over dying repeatably repeatedly - he is not only personally a wreck but completely unable to assist the squad given that he can't even look at a butter knife without having a panic attack.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': John feels put-upon for having to die repeatedly but puts up with it anyway.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
** John feels put-upon for having to die repeatedly but puts up with itanyway.anyway.
** John is asked to die for increasingly minor or silly reasons.
** John feels put-upon for having to die repeatedly but puts up with it
** John is asked to die for increasingly minor or silly reasons.
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* '''Discussed''': ''"*scoff* I know where this is going. 'Let's send John again since he can just come back anyway.' Well, when I do come back, I'm going to kick your asses."''
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* '''Discussed''': ''"*scoff* I know where this is going. 'Let's send John again since he can just come back anyway.' Well, when I do come back, I'm going to kick your asses."''???
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* '''Invoked''': John volunteers for a suicide mission to spare any of his mortal teammates from having to.
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* '''Invoked''': John volunteers It's John's idea to volunteer for a suicide mission missions to spare any of his mortal teammates from having to.to risk their own lives. Even if his teammates would rather he not put himself in harm's way like that, he considers it part of his job in the team.
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* '''Invoked''': ???
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* '''Invoked''': ???John volunteers for a suicide mission to spare any of his mortal teammates from having to.
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* '''Discussed''': ???
''"*scoff* I know where this is going. 'Let's send John again since he can just come back anyway.' Well, when I do come back, I'm going to kick your asses."''
* '''Conversed''':???''"If John's immortal, why do any of his teammates take any risks at all?"''
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** It turns out ItGetsEasier applies to ''being'' killed instead of just killing others, and so John treats it like a mortal would breaking a limp. It's painful and definitely not something he ''wants'' to do but he gets over it. He can even use butter knives!
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** It turns out ItGetsEasier applies to ''being'' killed instead of just killing others, and so John treats it like a mortal would breaking a limp.limb. It's painful and definitely not something he ''wants'' to do but he gets over it. He can even use butter knives!
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* '''Double Subverted''': ???It turns out "die permanently" actually means "cannot revive on his own". With assistance, he's fine in no time.
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* '''Averted''': ???Either John isn't immortal or his squadmates consider his safety just as highly as themselves.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "If someone has to die, its always me"
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* '''Lampshaded''': "If someone has to die, its it is always me"me because dying doesn't kill me."
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* '''Reconstructed''': It turns out his squadmates were distancing themselves so as not to go mad from watching their friend die over and over. John finds this out, and realizes that it is in fact much better and logical for him to undertake such dangerous jobs.
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** It turns out his squadmates were distancing themselves so as not to go mad from watching their friend die over and over. John finds this out, and realizes that it is in fact much better and logical for him to undertake such dangerousjobs.jobs.
**It turns out ItGetsEasier applies to ''being'' killed instead of just killing others, and so John treats it like a mortal would breaking a limp. It's painful and definitely not something he ''wants'' to do but he gets over it. He can even use butter knives!
** It turns out his squadmates were distancing themselves so as not to go mad from watching their friend die over and over. John finds this out, and realizes that it is in fact much better and logical for him to undertake such dangerous
**It turns out ItGetsEasier applies to ''being'' killed instead of just killing others, and so John treats it like a mortal would breaking a limp. It's painful and definitely not something he ''wants'' to do but he gets over it. He can even use butter knives!
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* '''Downplayed''': John will willingly take a bullet for any of his squadmates because he can't really die.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** John will willingly take a bullet for any of his squadmates because he can't really die.
** John will willingly take a bullet for any of his squadmates because he can't really die.
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually [[KilledOffForReal die permamently]], [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} but only under specific circumstances.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually [[KilledOffForReal die permamently]], [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} but only under specific circumstances.]]
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** They make sure to minimize pain at least when putting him in risky tasks. Decapitation or instant annihilation but using him as a human shield is never done.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???While Bob cannot die he [[BlessedWithSuck cannot recover any better than a normal human unless it would be near instantly fatal]]. His armor is even specifically designed to protect everything /except/ vital areas to protect him best.
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* '''Deconstructed''': John eventually turns on his squadmates for treating him so callously.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** John eventually turns on his squadmates for treating him so callously.
** John eventually turns on his squadmates for treating him so callously.
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** While John may recovery physically he becomes increasingly traumatized over dying repeatably - he is not only personally a wreck but completely unable to assist the squad given that he can't even look at a butter knife without having a panic attack.
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually [[KilledOffForReal die permamently]], [[Webcomic{{Homestuck}} but only under specific circumstances.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually [[KilledOffForReal die permamently]], [[Webcomic{{Homestuck}} [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} but only under specific circumstances.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually die permamently, [[WebcomicHomestuck but only under specific circumstances.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Turns out John can actually [[KilledOffForReal die permamently, [[WebcomicHomestuck permamently]], [[Webcomic{{Homestuck}} but only under specific circumstances.]]
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* '''Subverted''': ???
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* '''Subverted''': ???Turns out John can actually die permamently, [[WebcomicHomestuck but only under specific circumstances.]]
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** John is a FearlessUndead who volunteers for these jobs to protect the mortals.
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'''Basic Trope''': An immortal character being subjected to danger is considered no big deal.
* '''Straight''': John can respawn if he dies, and he is always assigned the most dangerous jobs.
* '''Exaggerated''': John's survival is considered the lowest priority job, and he is expected to be willing to die even to protect non-mission-critical equipment.
* '''Downplayed''': John will willingly take a bullet for any of his squadmates because he can't really die.
* '''Justified'''
** The alternative would be to let someone else [[KilledOffForReal permanently die]]
** John's squadmates [[FantasticRacism dislike him]] and get him killed to be mean.
* '''Inverted''': Because John is so valuable, he is protected from the pain of dying to keep him on the team, even at the cost of others' lives.
* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': The squad at one point crosses a river by killing John several hundred times until his corpses block the flow.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': ???
* '''Enforced''': The writers want to show that John's squadmates are practical but [[GoodIsNotSoft not concerned about John's well-being]].
* '''Lampshaded''': "If someone has to die, its always me"
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': Even enemies who would be concerned about having cause a death don't hold back against John.
* '''Defied''': John refuses to work with his squad if they keep getting him killed.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': John eventually turns on his squadmates for treating him so callously.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': John feels put-upon for having to die repeatedly but puts up with it anyway.
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* '''Straight''': John can respawn if he dies, and he is always assigned the most dangerous jobs.
* '''Exaggerated''': John's survival is considered the lowest priority job, and he is expected to be willing to die even to protect non-mission-critical equipment.
* '''Downplayed''': John will willingly take a bullet for any of his squadmates because he can't really die.
* '''Justified'''
** The alternative would be to let someone else [[KilledOffForReal permanently die]]
** John's squadmates [[FantasticRacism dislike him]] and get him killed to be mean.
* '''Inverted''': Because John is so valuable, he is protected from the pain of dying to keep him on the team, even at the cost of others' lives.
* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': The squad at one point crosses a river by killing John several hundred times until his corpses block the flow.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': ???
* '''Enforced''': The writers want to show that John's squadmates are practical but [[GoodIsNotSoft not concerned about John's well-being]].
* '''Lampshaded''': "If someone has to die, its always me"
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': Even enemies who would be concerned about having cause a death don't hold back against John.
* '''Defied''': John refuses to work with his squad if they keep getting him killed.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': John eventually turns on his squadmates for treating him so callously.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': John feels put-upon for having to die repeatedly but puts up with it anyway.
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