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** Alice's manipulative chancellor Fred [[HijackedByGanon is actually Evulz in disguise, who is trying to retain/reestablish his control over the nation.]]

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** Alice's manipulative chancellor Fred [[HijackedByGanon is actually Evulz' agent or Evulz in disguise, who is trying to retain/reestablish his control over the nation.]]



* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Troperian Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tried to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounced him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob called for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves Troperia]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].

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* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Troperian Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy freedom and the like, democracy, tried to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounced him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve [[DidYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob called for an emergency meeting of the Liberty Front leadership to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves Troperia]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter desolate realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].vain]] and bitterly asks himself [[WasItReallyWorthIt if bringing Evulz down was even worth trying in the first place]].

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* '''Defied''': Alice actively tries everything she can, including [[TheFettered limiting her own power]] and surrounding herself with [[HonestAdvisor honest, trustworthy advisors]], to avoid becoming a tyrant like her predecessor.
** Evuls brutally crushes the revolution before they have the chance to be corrupt, and later undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a more benevolent ruler to avoid another revolution like it.

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Alice actively tries everything she can, including [[TheFettered limiting her own power]] and surrounding herself with [[HonestAdvisor honest, trustworthy advisors]], to avoid becoming a tyrant like her predecessor.
** Evuls Evulz brutally crushes the revolution before they have the chance to be corrupt, and later undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a more benevolent ruler to avoid another revolution like it.



** Frances, a GenreSavvy citizen, expresses her suspicions about Alice's new government, claiming that rebels often turn into oppressors and citing numerous RealLife examples.

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** Frances, [[MeaningfulName Frank]], a GenreSavvy citizen, expresses her suspicions about Alice's new government, claiming that rebels often turn into oppressors and citing numerous RealLife examples.



** The new revolutionary appeals to a foreign country for help. They promise to establish the new government only under the country's orders, hopefully ensuring they won't go mad with power.

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** The new revolutionary appeals to a foreign country for help. They promise to establish the new government [[VoluntaryVassal only under the country's orders, orders]], hopefully ensuring they won't go mad with power.
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** Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil {{Politically Incorrect|Villain}} BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist where order can only be maintained through deceit despite her disdain towards Evulz and kind exterior.

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** Alice **Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil {{Politically Incorrect|Villain}} BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist where order can only be maintained through deceit and [[DoesNotLikeMen banning males]] from ever entering the land despite her disdain towards Evulz and having a kind exterior.
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** Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist despite her disdain towards Evulz and kind exterior.

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** Alice **Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil {{Politically Incorrect|Villain}} BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist where order can only be maintained through deceit despite her disdain towards Evulz and kind exterior.
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** Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist despite her disdain towards Evulz.

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** Alice **Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist despite her disdain towards Evulz.Evulz and kind exterior.
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**Alice is a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing whose only goal is to rule Troperia with an iron fist despite her disdain towards Evulz.
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Instead of a revolution, it's a PresidentEvil succeeding another PresidentEvil in a [[DemocracyIsBad democratic election]].

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** Instead of a revolution, it's a PresidentEvil succeeding another PresidentEvil in a [[DemocracyIsBad democratic election]].
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** Evuls brutally crushes the revolution before they have the chance to be corrupt.

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** Evuls brutally crushes the revolution before they have the chance to be corrupt.corrupt, and later undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a more benevolent ruler to avoid another revolution like it.
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** Evuls brutally crushes the revolution before they have the chance to be corrupt.
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** Emperor Evulz's reign was FascistButEfficient, and things were generally quite calm before Alice took over.

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** Emperor Evulz's reign was FascistButEfficient, RepressiveButEfficient, and things were generally quite sometimes calm before Alice took over. When she took over, she created a PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny that was too inefficient to truly oppress the populace like Evulz.
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** Emperor Evulz's reign was FascistButEfficient, and things were generally quite calm before Alice took over.

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Instead of a revolution, it's a PresidentEvil succeeding another PresidentEvil in a [[DemocracyIsBad democratic election]].



* '''Zig-Zagged''': RevolvingDoorRevolution: Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], [[HistoryRepeats who continues the cycle anew]].

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RevolvingDoorRevolution: Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], [[HistoryRepeats who continues the cycle anew]].anew]].
** [[GrayAndGrayMorality Neither Alice nor Evulz were completely evil rulers]], and each administration had its own strengths and weaknesses. Whether things improved or not after the revolution is mostly based on personal opinion and political views.
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'''Basic Trope''': A revolution that successfully overthrows and replaces a tyrant [[HereWeGoAgain ends up being just as oppressive]].

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'''Basic Trope''': A revolution that successfully overthrows and replaces a tyrant [[HereWeGoAgain ends up being just as oppressive]].oppressive]], if not [[FromBadtoWorse even worse]].
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** Alice's revolution was [[StagedPopulistUprising formed and paid for by Evulz's rivals]], and [[FalseFlagOperation the whole revolution was organized simply to get Evulz out of power]]. [[NotInThisForYourRevolution No one cares about actual social change]].

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** Alice's revolution was [[StagedPopulistUprising formed and paid for by Evulz's rivals]], rivals in the elite]], and [[FalseFlagOperation the whole revolution was organized simply to get Evulz out of power]]. [[NotInThisForYourRevolution No one cares about actual social change]].
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** Alice's revolution is paid for by Evulz's rivals, and the whole revolution was organized simply to get Evulz out of power. No one cares about actual social change.

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** Alice's revolution is was [[StagedPopulistUprising formed and paid for by Evulz's rivals, rivals]], and [[FalseFlagOperation the whole revolution was organized simply to get Evulz out of power. power]]. [[NotInThisForYourRevolution No one cares about actual social change.change]].
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** Alice's revolution is paid for by Evulz's rivals, and the whole revolution was organized simply to get Evulz out of power. No one cares about actual social change.
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], [[HistoryRepeats who continues the cycle anew]].

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* '''Zig-Zagged''': RevolvingDoorRevolution: Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], [[HistoryRepeats who continues the cycle anew]].
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** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob and his Troperian Guardians of Justice, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]. He is soon overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]] and her Warriors of Freedom for Troperia, who becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]

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** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob and his Bob, leader of the Troperian Guardians of Justice, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]. He is soon overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]] and her Warriors of Freedom for Troperia, who and she becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] overthrown]] by [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]
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** [[FailureHero Alice]] [[TheBadGuyWins never defeats Evulz in the first place.]]
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** [[FailureHero Alice]] [[TheBadGuyWins never defeats Evulz in the first place.]]
place]]; she, along with several other leaders of the Liberty Front, was unceremoniously stabbed in her sleep by the [[SecretPolice Imperial Security Bureau agents]], the Liberty Front itself [[DecapitatedArmy disintegrated afterwards]], and the revolution died down quietly.
** Alice never staged a revolution, instead [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere quietly leaving Troperia for a foreign land]].



** Alice is only able to avoid the cycle of overthrow and oppression [[TheUnfettered through very questionable and bloody means]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that leaves them worse off]] like a [[UriahGambit getting the surplus of fighters killed in]] [[WhatTheHellHero an unprovoked attack on]][[ALighterShadeOfGrey Warlord Draco]]. Much of Troperia lays dead, enough of Draco's forces are too weakened to mount a counter invasion but starts a whole new other cycle of violence for future generations...

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** Alice is only able to avoid the cycle of overthrow and oppression [[TheUnfettered through very questionable and bloody means]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that leaves them worse off]] like a [[UriahGambit getting the surplus of fighters killed in]] [[WhatTheHellHero an unprovoked attack on]][[ALighterShadeOfGrey on]] [[ALighterShadeOfGrey Warlord Draco]]. Much of Troperia lays dead, enough of Draco's forces are too weakened to mount a counter invasion but starts a whole new other cycle of violence for future generations...



* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Troperian Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tries to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounces him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob called for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves Troperia ]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].

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* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Troperian Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tries tried to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounces denounced him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob called for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves Troperia ]], Troperia]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].
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* '''Played for Laughs''': The politicians and generals of Troperia stage coups against each other on a daily basis, even though there's not much in terms of difference in their political platforms -- or, for that matter, platforms themselves. The citizens regard this as "well, we struggle for bread now, but hey, at least they provide free circuses".

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* '''Played for Laughs''': The politicians and generals of Troperia stage coups against each other on a daily basis, even though there's not much in terms of difference in their political platforms -- or, for that matter, platforms themselves. The citizens regard this as [[BreadAndCircuses "well, we struggle for bread now, but hey, at least they provide free circuses".circuses"]].
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* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution and leads [[LaResistance the Liberty Front]] to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice]], turn the Liberty Front into her StateSec and enslave her people.

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* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution and leads [[LaResistance the Troperian Liberty Front]] to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice]], turn the Liberty Front into her StateSec and enslave her people.



** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob and his Justice Guardians, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]. He is soon overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]] and her Warriors of Freedom, who becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]

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** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob and his Justice Guardians, Troperian Guardians of Justice, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]. He is soon overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]] and her Warriors of Freedom, Freedom for Troperia, who becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]



** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power... which results in [[WretchedHive a dystopia]] [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety in the opposite way]]: [[LawEnforcementInc privatized police]] will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive top executives]] of [[MegaCorp corporations]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney rich people]] rule the day and unleash [[PrivateMilitaryContractors their own]] [[CorporateWarfare 'security forces']] on anything bringing discomfort to them, and [[AuthorityInNameOnly the government can't do anything]] to reign them in.

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** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power... which results in [[WretchedHive a dystopia]] [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety in the opposite way]]: [[LawEnforcementInc privatized police]] will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive top executives]] of [[MegaCorp corporations]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney rich people]] rule the day and unleash [[PrivateMilitaryContractors their own]] [[CorporateWarfare 'security forces']] on anything bringing discomfort to them, and [[AuthorityInNameOnly the Troperia's government can't do anything]] to reign them in.




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* '''Played for Laughs''':
* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tries to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounces him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob tried to call for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves the country]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].

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* '''Played for Laughs''':
Laughs''': The politicians and generals of Troperia stage coups against each other on a daily basis, even though there's not much in terms of difference in their political platforms -- or, for that matter, platforms themselves. The citizens regard this as "well, we struggle for bread now, but hey, at least they provide free circuses".
* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Troperian Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tries to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounces him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob tried to call called for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves the country]], Troperia ]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].

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* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice and enslave her people]].

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* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution and leads [[LaResistance the Liberty Front]] to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice Alice]], turn the Liberty Front into her StateSec and enslave her people]].people.



** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]; he is overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]], who becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]

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** RevolvingDoorRevolution: Overlord Alice is then overthrown by Bob, Bob and his Justice Guardians, who promises to be a truly fair leader but then becomes the tyrant [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Bob]]; he Bob]]. He is soon overthrown by [[PrincessClassic Princess Carol]], Carol]] and her Warriors of Freedom, who becomes [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Carol]] and is overthrown by [[PresidentEvil President Charlie]], [[OverlyLongGag who is later overthrown by]] [[GeneralRipper General Daniel...]]



** Alice does stay true to her ideals, but gets betrayed by her men who wanted more privileges as the new military. The revolution still winds up betrayed, but it is clear that it happened in spite of the leadership, not because of it.

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** Alice does stay true to her ideals, but [[EtTuBrute gets betrayed betrayed]] by [[WeAreStrugglingTogether her men fellow Liberty Front commanders]] who wanted more privileges as the new military. The revolution still winds up betrayed, but it is clear that it happened in spite of the leadership, not because of it.



** Alice [[EvilAllAlong was always a power-hungry scumbag who only wanted Evulz gone to take the throne for herself]].

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** Alice [[EvilAllAlong was always a power-hungry scumbag scumbag]] [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist who only wanted Evulz gone to take the throne for herself]].



* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], who continues the cycle anew.

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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice overthrows Emperor Evulz and begins as a legitimately kind leader, but gradually becomes corrupted by power and begins oppressing the nation. However, it turns out she has no bad intentions; her chancellor is manipulating her, so she gets rid of him -- and ''then'' starts oppressing people herself. Eventually, she realizes the error of her ways and tries to go back to helping the people -- but before she can, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam she is overthrown by Baron Bob]], [[HistoryRepeats who continues the cycle anew.anew]].



** [[TheBadGuyWins Or she never defeats Evulz in the first place.]]

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** [[FailureHero Alice]] [[TheBadGuyWins Or she never defeats Evulz in the first place.]]]]



* '''Reconstructed''': The new revolutionary appeals to a foreign country for help. They promise to establish the new government only under the country's orders, hopefully ensuring they won't go mad with power.
** Alice is only able to avoid the cycle of overthrow and oppression [[TheUnfettered through very questionable and bloody means]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that leaves them worse off]] like a [[UriahGambit getting the surplus of fighters killed in]] [[WhatTheHellHero an unprovoked attack on]][[ALighterShadeOfGrey Warlord Draco]]. Much of Troperia lays dead, enough of Draco's forces are too weakened to mount a counter invasion but starts a whole new other cycle of violence for future generations.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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The new revolutionary appeals to a foreign country for help. They promise to establish the new government only under the country's orders, hopefully ensuring they won't go mad with power.
** Alice is only able to avoid the cycle of overthrow and oppression [[TheUnfettered through very questionable and bloody means]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that leaves them worse off]] like a [[UriahGambit getting the surplus of fighters killed in]] [[WhatTheHellHero an unprovoked attack on]][[ALighterShadeOfGrey Warlord Draco]]. Much of Troperia lays dead, enough of Draco's forces are too weakened to mount a counter invasion but starts a whole new other cycle of violence for future generations.generations...
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* '''Played for Drama''': [[WideEyedIdealist Bob]] fought alongside [[RebelLeader Alice]] and her Liberty Front to bring down Evulz' tyranny. However, soon after their victory, Alice begins to get [[DrunkWithPower too eager to wield her newly gained authority]] [[PresidentForLife and retain it indefinitely]]. Bob, still believing in the cause of freedom, democracy and the like, tries to [[WhatTheHellHero call her out on it]], but she denounces him as [[DiDYouActuallyBelieve too gullible]] and [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids idealistic]] for his own good. When Bob tried to call for an emergency meeting to stop Alice's silent coup, he narrowly avoided [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness being stabbed by an assassin sent after him]]. As Bob [[TheExile leaves the country]], he looks at the capital city they recently claimed with a bitter realization that the struggle for freedom and end of oppression [[AllForNothing was in vain]].
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** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power... which results in a dystopia [[WretchedHive in the opposite way]]: [[LawEnforcementInc privatized police]] will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive top executives]] of [[MegaCorp corporations]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney rich people]] rule the day and unleash [[PrivateMilitaryContractors their own]] [[CorporateWarfare 'security forces']] on anything bringing discomfort to them, and [[AuthorityInNameOnly the government can't do anything about it]].

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** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power... which results in a dystopia [[WretchedHive a dystopia]] [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety in the opposite way]]: [[LawEnforcementInc privatized police]] will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive top executives]] of [[MegaCorp corporations]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney rich people]] rule the day and unleash [[PrivateMilitaryContractors their own]] [[CorporateWarfare 'security forces']] on anything bringing discomfort to them, and [[AuthorityInNameOnly the government can't do anything about it]].anything]] to reign them in.
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** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power ... which results in a dystopia [[WretchedHive in the opposite way]]: privatized police will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, and the government can't do anything.

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** [[RebelLeader Alice]] takes down Emperor Evulz, and creates a society where the government has very little power ... power... which results in a dystopia [[WretchedHive in the opposite way]]: [[LawEnforcementInc privatized police police]] will only investigate crimes that the victim paid them to investigate, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive top executives]] of [[MegaCorp corporations]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney rich people]] rule the day and unleash [[PrivateMilitaryContractors their own]] [[CorporateWarfare 'security forces']] on anything bringing discomfort to them, and [[AuthorityInNameOnly the government can't do anything.anything about it]].



** Evulz technically defeats the rebellion but is forced by degrees into liberalization for [[PragmaticVillainy practical reasons]], eventually resulting in sweeping reforms that turn his empire into a democracy, not even adopting the measures of the rebels to undermine their support but after a total military success.

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** Evulz technically defeats the rebellion but is forced by degrees into liberalization [[InternalReformist liberalization]] for [[PragmaticVillainy practical reasons]], eventually resulting in sweeping reforms that turn his empire into a democracy, not even adopting the measures of the rebels to undermine their support but after a total military success.
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** Alice is only able to avoid the cycle of overthrow and oppression [[TheUnfettered through very questionable and bloody means]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that leaves them worse off]] like a [[UriahGambit getting the surplus of fighters killed in]] [[WhatTheHellHero an unprovoked attack on]][[ALighterShadeOfGrey Warlord Draco]]. Much of Troperia lays dead, enough of Draco's forces are too weakened to mount a counter invasion but starts a whole new other cycle of violence for future generations.

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'''Basic Trope''': A revolution that successfully overthrows and replaces a tyrant [[HereWeGoAgain ends up being just as oppressive.]]
* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice and enslave her people.]]

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'''Basic Trope''': A revolution that successfully overthrows and replaces a tyrant [[HereWeGoAgain ends up being just as oppressive.]]
oppressive]].
* '''Straight''': [[RebelLeader Alice]] organizes a revolution to overthrow [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. She wins, and establishes her own rule, [[FaceHeelTurn only to change her title to Overlord Alice and enslave her people.]]people]].



* '''Downplayed''': The people under Alice's rule agree that, while she is [[UnscrupulousHero a strict and sometimes unreasonable leader]], [[LesserOfTwoEvils she is still better than Emperor Evulz ever was.]]
** Alice does stay true to her ideals but gets betrayed by her men who wanted more privileges as the new military. The revolution still winds up betrayed but is clear that it happened in spite of the leadership not because of it.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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The people under Alice's rule agree that, while she is [[UnscrupulousHero a strict and sometimes unreasonable leader]], she is [[LesserOfTwoEvils she is still better than Emperor Evulz ever was.]]
** Alice does stay true to her ideals ideals, but gets betrayed by her men who wanted more privileges as the new military. The revolution still winds up betrayed betrayed, but it is clear that it happened in spite of the leadership leadership, not because of it.



** Alice [[DrunkWithPower became corrupted by the allure of power and wanted to keep it by any means necessary.]]
** Alice [[EvilAllAlong was always a power-hungry scumbag who only wanted Evulz gone to take the throne for herself.]]

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** Alice [[DrunkWithPower became corrupted by the allure of power and wanted to keep it by any means necessary.]]
necessary]].
** Alice [[EvilAllAlong was always a power-hungry scumbag who only wanted Evulz gone to take the throne for herself.]]herself]].



** The only ones capable of overthrowing the government have the support of professional fighters. [[MilitaryCoup Either the turning over]] [[ArmiesAreEvil the selfish army of Troperia]] or [[NotInThisForYourRevolution greedy mercenaries]] who expect to be richly rewarded for risking life and limb overthrowing the government. Which requires the sort of exploitation to fund which leads to brutal measures to suppress dissent. Those who try to claim power without one always fail and those who fail to please them after using them get ousted.

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** The only ones capable of overthrowing the government have the support of professional fighters. [[MilitaryCoup Either the turning over]] of [[ArmiesAreEvil the selfish army of Troperia]] or [[NotInThisForYourRevolution greedy mercenaries]] who expect to be richly rewarded for risking life and limb is needed for overthrowing the government. Which This requires the sort of exploitation to fund the army, which leads to brutal measures to suppress dissent. Those who try to claim power without one an army always fail fail, and those who fail to please them after using them get ousted.



** Aspiring tyrant Alice overthrows TheGoodKing, Emmet, but [[HeelFaceTurn ends up being just as kind and fair as her predecessor.]]

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** Aspiring tyrant Alice overthrows TheGoodKing, Emmet, but [[HeelFaceTurn ends up being just as kind and fair as her predecessor.]]predecessor]].



** Emperor Evulz's heir General Daniel states a commitment to his harsh authoritarian society yet ends up with a permissive, egalitarian, and just society.
** Evulz technically defeats the rebellion but is forced by degrees into liberalization for [[PragmaticVillainy practical reasons]]. Not even adopting the measures of the rebels to undermine their support but after a military success!
* '''Subverted''': It looks like Alice is going to become another tyrant, [[BaitAndSwitchTyrant but she turns out to be a fair and just ruler.]]

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** Emperor Evulz's heir heir, General Daniel Daniel, states a commitment to his harsh authoritarian society society, yet ends up with a permissive, egalitarian, and just society.
** Evulz technically defeats the rebellion but is forced by degrees into liberalization for [[PragmaticVillainy practical reasons]]. Not reasons]], eventually resulting in sweeping reforms that turn his empire into a democracy, not even adopting the measures of the rebels to undermine their support but after a total military success!
success.
* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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It looks like Alice is going to become another tyrant, [[BaitAndSwitchTyrant but she turns out to be a fair and just ruler.]]ruler]].



** Alice is overthrown/being [[TheManBehindTheMan manipulated]] by her [[EvilChancellor scheming chancellor Fred.]]

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** Alice is overthrown/being [[TheManBehindTheMan manipulated]] by her [[EvilChancellor scheming chancellor Fred.]]Fred]].
** One of the warring factions wins the SuccessionCrisis and basically becomes another oppressive empire.
** Alice changes her mind and decides to take brutal measures to unify her people, resulting in her becoming a tyrant.
** Alice [[DivideAndConquer manipulated the factions into fighting each other]] to have an excuse to grab total power.
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** TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized
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** Eventually the people end up losing all hope that things will ever get better. The next would-be revolutionary leader gets little to no support because no one sees any point in helping to perpetuate the cycle, and the people [[RootingForTheEmpire would rather just stick with the current regime.]]

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** Eventually the people end up losing all hope that things will ever get better. The next would-be revolutionary leader gets little to no support because no one sees any point in helping to perpetuate the cycle, and the people [[RootingForTheEmpire [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow would rather just stick with the current regime.]]

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** The only ones capable of overthrowing the government have the support of [[MilitaryCoup either the turning over]] [[ArmiesAreEvil the selfish army of Troperia]] or [[NotInThisForYourRevolution greedy mercenaries]] who expect to be richly rewarded for risking life and limb overthrowing the government. Which requires the sort of exploitation to fund which leads to brutal measures to suppress dissent. Those who try to claim power without one always fail and those who fail to please them after using them get ousted.

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** The only ones capable of overthrowing the government have the support of professional fighters. [[MilitaryCoup either Either the turning over]] [[ArmiesAreEvil the selfish army of Troperia]] or [[NotInThisForYourRevolution greedy mercenaries]] who expect to be richly rewarded for risking life and limb overthrowing the government. Which requires the sort of exploitation to fund which leads to brutal measures to suppress dissent. Those who try to claim power without one always fail and those who fail to please them after using them get ousted.


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** Evulz technically defeats the rebellion but is forced by degrees into liberalization for [[PragmaticVillainy practical reasons]]. Not even adopting the measures of the rebels to undermine their support but after a military success!


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** The flaw of Alice as a ruler isn't brutality but a failure to unify without Evulz resulting in a [[BalkanizeMe divided nation]]. She considers it WorthIt despite the loss of power and somewhat reduced (but more equitably distributed) material wealth.
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** Alice decides that saving a nation that would eventually fall back to a tyrannical regime no matter who takes over the throne is simply not worth it and the best solution would be to [[OmnicidalManiac kill everyone until there's nobody left in that nation]].

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** Alice decides that saving a nation that would eventually fall back to a tyrannical regime no matter who takes over the throne is simply not worth it and the best solution would be is to [[OmnicidalManiac kill everyone until there's nobody left in that nation]].

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