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* '''Enforced''': "It's an old joke, but [[RuleOfFunny it's still funny]], so we put it in."

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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"It's an old joke, but [[RuleOfFunny it's still funny]], so we put it in.""
** "How do we show that Alice is a [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic villain]]?" "How about she scolds someone for doing something bad, but then tells them how to do it ''right'' instead?"
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'''Basic Trope''': Someone scolded [[ComicallyMissingThePoint not for maliciousness]], [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint but for incompetence]].

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'''Basic Trope''': Someone scolded [[ComicallyMissingThePoint not for maliciousness]], maliciousness]] [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint but for incompetence]].

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'''Basic Trope''': Someone scolded not for maliciousness, but for incompetence.
* '''Straight''': Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, by deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via {{False Flag Operation}}s. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice tells him to use a different step ladder.
** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Bob]] insults [[CampGay Charlie]] by calling him the [[PrecisionFStrike homophobic f-word]]. [[PoliticallyCorrectVillain Alice]] scolds Bob for calling Charlie a slur, not because she's disgusted at Bob for being homophobic, but because she wants Bob to be more clever with his insults.

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'''Basic Trope''': Someone scolded [[ComicallyMissingThePoint not for maliciousness, maliciousness]], [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint but for incompetence.
incompetence]].
* '''Straight''': Bob tries to rob an old lady, and lady. [[SkewedPriorities Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask.
mask.]]
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, by deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via {{False Flag Operation}}s. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.
* '''Downplayed''':
'''Downplayed''':
** Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice tells him to use a different step ladder.
stepladder.
** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Bob]] insults [[CampGay Charlie]] by calling him the [[PrecisionFStrike homophobic f-word]]. [[PoliticallyCorrectVillain Alice]] scolds Bob for calling Charlie a slur, not because she's disgusted at Bob for being homophobic, but because she wants Bob to be more clever cleverer with his insults.



** Alice has to constantly put up with stupid criminals.
** The way Bob is doing his misdeed is [[LethallyStupid so unworkably stupid]] that Alice feels she needs to prevent an accidental suicide (or murder, or both) over whatever the heck Bob is doing.

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** Alice has to constantly put up with stupid criminals.
criminals all the time.
** The way Bob is doing his misdeed is [[LethallyStupid so unworkably stupid]] that Alice feels she needs to prevent an accidental suicide AccidentalSuicide (or murder, [[AccidentalMurder murder]], or both) [[MurderSuicide both]]) over whatever the heck Bob is doing.doing.
** Alice is secretly a hero who [[BatmanGambit needs Bob to do his misdeeds in a certain way to fulfil her heroic plan]].



** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice demonstrates a better way for support hold on to her.

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** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice demonstrates a better way for support hold on to her.



* '''Subverted''': And then arrests him.
* '''Double Subverted''': But actually takes him to her house for training.
* '''Parodied''': Alice takes Bob to a school for the evil and gives him a series of lectures on how to Do Wrong, Right.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flaws in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do. [[AndThatsTerrible Though doing it wrong just adds insult to injury]].

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* '''Subverted''': And Alice then arrests him.
Bob.
* '''Double Subverted''': But actually then she takes him to her house for training.
* '''Parodied''': Alice takes Bob to a school for the evil CardCarryingVillain[=s=] and gives him a series of lectures on how to Do Wrong, Right.
* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice reprimands him Bob not just for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flaws in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do. [[AndThatsTerrible Though doing it wrong just adds insult to injury]].injury.]]



* '''Enforced''': "It's an old joke, but it's still funny, so we put it in."

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* '''Enforced''': "It's an old joke, but [[RuleOfFunny it's still funny, funny]], so we put it in."



* '''Played For Laughs''':

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* '''Played For Laughs''': for Laughs''':



** Bob actually feels the need to lampshade this out of his outrageous and [[SkewedPriorities skewed]] it looks: "Really? [[RadishCure You're forcing me to risk getting lung cancer]] and you're going to lecture me about how the ([[CensoredForComedy whatever insult is funnier]]) I am holding my cigarette? [[WhatTheHellHero Are you actually listening to what you're saying]]?"
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob is a serial killer who Alice tracks down, leading to a climatic encounter where Bob almost kills her in pitch darkness, only for her to shoot him dead when he makes a sound. [[BondOneLiner Alice then says that Bob should've been more quiet]].
* '''Played For Horror''': Bob gets [[DisproportionateRetribution more than a little upset]] for the alleged pity Alice showed him, so he kills her for it alongside redoing his crime either "the wrong way" or "the right way" Alice showed him, [[EvilIsPetty whatever way he feels is more insulting to the poor dead woman]].

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** Bob actually feels the need to lampshade this out of his outrageous and [[SkewedPriorities skewed]] it looks: SkewedPriorities: "Really? [[RadishCure You're forcing me to risk getting lung cancer]] and you're going to lecture me about how the ([[CensoredForComedy whatever insult is funnier]]) I am holding my cigarette? [[WhatTheHellHero Are you actually listening to what you're saying]]?"
saying?]]"
* '''Played For for Drama''': Bob is a serial killer who Alice tracks down, leading to a climatic encounter where Bob almost kills her in pitch darkness, only for her to shoot him dead when he makes a sound. [[BondOneLiner Alice then says that Bob should've been more quiet]].
quieter.]]
* '''Played For for Horror''': Bob gets [[DisproportionateRetribution more than a little upset]] for the alleged pity Alice showed him, so he kills her for it alongside redoing his initial crime either "the wrong way" or "the right way" Alice showed him, [[EvilIsPetty whatever whichever way he feels is more insulting to the poor dead woman]].
victim]].
* '''Implied''': Bob robs a bank without a mask and only just gets away. A few months later, he wears a mask, then robs another bank with much less fuss and a bigger haul. When his mentee asks him what changed, he says, "I got some pointers from unexpected places."



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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob gets arrested for the actual crime, ''and'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for not doing it correctly]].

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
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Bob gets arrested for the actual crime, ''and'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for not doing it correctly]].correctly]].
** Bob actually feels the need to lampshade this out of his outrageous and [[SkewedPriorities skewed]] it looks: "Really? [[RadishCure You're forcing me to risk getting lung cancer]] and you're going to lecture me about how the ([[CensoredForComedy whatever insult is funnier]]) I am holding my cigarette? [[WhatTheHellHero Are you actually listening to what you're saying]]?"
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** The way Bob is doing his misdeed is [[LethallyStupid so unworkably stupid]] that Alice feels she needs to prevent an accidental suicide (or murder, or both) over whatever the heck Bob is doing.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flaws in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do. [[AndThatsTerrible Though doing it wrong just adds insult to injury.]]

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flaws in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do. [[AndThatsTerrible Though doing it wrong just adds insult to injury.]]injury]].



* '''Reconstructed''': Alice tracks down Bob, and understands that what he said on television was to discredit her, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim but it would have been better if he had killed her soon after instead of giving her the opportunity to go after him]]. [[HonorBeforeReason Bob agrees that he could have, but]] [[FairPlayVillain he decided to play fair]] [[WorthyOpponent in order to get a real challenge out of her.]]

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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice tracks down Bob, and understands that what he said on television was to discredit her, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim but it would have been better if he had killed her soon after instead of giving her the opportunity to go after him]]. [[HonorBeforeReason Bob agrees that he could have, but]] [[FairPlayVillain he decided to play fair]] [[WorthyOpponent in order to get a real challenge out of her.]]her]].
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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[SincerityMode Not that he would do that]], [[CouldSayItBut but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]

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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] for [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[SincerityMode Not that he would do that]], [[CouldSayItBut but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]
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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob gets [[DisproportionateRetribution more than a little upset]] for the alleged pity Alice showed him, so he kills her for it alongside redoing his crime either "the wrong way" or "the right way" Alice showed him, [[EvilIsPetty whatever way he feels is more insulting to the poor dead woman]].
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** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Bob]] insults [[CampGay Charlie]] by calling him the homophobic f-word. Alice scolds Bob for calling Charlie a slur, not because she's disgusted at Bob for being homophobic, but because she wants Bob to be more clever with his insults.

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** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Bob]] insults [[CampGay Charlie]] by calling him the [[PrecisionFStrike homophobic f-word. Alice f-word]]. [[PoliticallyCorrectVillain Alice]] scolds Bob for calling Charlie a slur, not because she's disgusted at Bob for being homophobic, but because she wants Bob to be more clever with his insults.

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice tells him to use a different step ladder.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice tells him to use a different step ladder.ladder.
** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Bob]] insults [[CampGay Charlie]] by calling him the homophobic f-word. Alice scolds Bob for calling Charlie a slur, not because she's disgusted at Bob for being homophobic, but because she wants Bob to be more clever with his insults.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, bu deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via {{False Flag Operation}}s. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, bu by deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via {{False Flag Operation}}s. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, bu deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via FalseFlagOperations. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, bu deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via FalseFlagOperations.{{False Flag Operation}}s. Alice gives him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, and Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice [[RuleOfThree reprimands him for]] [[OverlyLongGag not wearing a mask]].

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, and bu deceiving various global superpowers into declaring war via FalseFlagOperations. Alice reprimands gives him for not wearing a mask.
ReasonYouSuckSpeech about how many ways the attacks can be traced back to him.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice [[RuleOfThree reprimands tells him for]] [[OverlyLongGag not wearing to use a mask]].different step ladder.



** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice [[NonSequitur reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].

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** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice [[NonSequitur reprimands him demonstrates a better way for not wearing a mask]].support hold on to her.
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Back to DoWrongRight. No, not like that! If you're going to [[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife ruin your life]], at least do it right!

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Back to DoWrongRight. No, not like that! If you're going to [[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife ruin your life]], at least do it right!
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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[CouldSayItBut Not that he would do that, but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]

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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[CouldSayItBut [[SincerityMode Not that he would do that, that]], [[CouldSayItBut but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]
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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[ICouldSayItBut Not that he would do that, but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]

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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[ICouldSayItBut [[CouldSayItBut Not that he would do that, but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]

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** Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice arrests him for it, but ''Bob'' [[IronicEcho reprimands Alice]] [[OverlyLongGag for not wearing a mask]], since other criminals she may have previously caught could break loose, recognize her face, and pursue revenge. [[ICouldSayItBut Not that he would do that, but it is something pretty common for criminals to do.]]



* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flass in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flass flaws in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do.do. [[AndThatsTerrible Though doing it wrong just adds insult to injury.]]

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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice tracks down Bob, and understands that what he said on television was to discredit her, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim but it would have been better if he had killed her soon after instead of giving her the opportunity to go after him]]. [[HonorBeforeReason Bob agrees that he could have, but]] [[FairPlayVillain he decided to play fair]] [[WorthyOpponent in order to get a real challenge out of her.]]



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** Bob, [[BigBad Alice]]'s second-in-command, tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice fires him for being better at good than bad.

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* '''Justified''': Alice is Bob's (eeeeevil) mentor.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Alice is Bob's (eeeeevil) mentor.



** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice congratulated him not because it's a nice thing to do, but because he picked great walking boots for the job.
** Bob, [[BigBad Alice]]'s second-in-command tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice fires him for being better at good than bad.

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** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice congratulated congratulates him not because it's a nice thing to do, but because he picked great walking boots for the job.
** Bob, [[BigBad Alice]]'s second-in-command second-in-command, tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice fires him for being better at good than bad.



* '''Deconstructed''': As soon as Bob is out of jail, he returns to crime, only this time, he does it correctly, resulting in deaths and property damage. On television, he thanks Alice for her suggestion to commit crime more competently, prompting the police to strip Alice of her duties for endorsing crime.



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* '''Inverted''': Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice [[NonSequitur reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice [[NonSequitur reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].mask]].
** Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice congratulated him not because it's a nice thing to do, but because he picked great walking boots for the job.
** Bob, [[BigBad Alice]]'s second-in-command tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice fires him for being better at good than bad.
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* '''Defied''': Alice thinks about saying it as a joke, but decides against it.

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* '''Defied''': The police handbook prohibits Alice thinks about saying it as a joke, but decides against it.from making this joke lest she be fired for unprofessionalism.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice [[RuleOfThree reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice [[RuleOfThree reprimands him for for]] [[OverlyLongGag not wearing a mask]].
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob gets arrested for the actual crime, ''and'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for not doing it correctly.''

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob gets arrested for the actual crime, ''and'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for not doing it correctly.'' correctly]].

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob gets arrested for the actual crime, ''and'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for not doing it correctly.''



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** Alice has to constantly put up with stupid criminals.



* '''Averted''': Alice arrests Bob.

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* '''Averted''': Alice arrests Bob.Bob for the actual crime.


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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob is a serial killer who Alice tracks down, leading to a climatic encounter where Bob almost kills her in pitch darkness, only for her to shoot him dead when he makes a sound. [[BondOneLiner Alice then says that Bob should've been more quiet]].
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'''Basic Trope''': Someone scolded not for maliciousness, but for incompetence.
* '''Straight''': Bob tries to rob an old lady, and Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob tries to destroy the entire world, and Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob tries to steal a cookie from the jar, and Alice [[RuleOfThree reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].
* '''Justified''': Alice is Bob's (eeeeevil) mentor.
* '''Inverted''': Bob tries to help an old lady cross the street, and Alice [[NonSequitur reprimands him for not wearing a mask]].
* '''Subverted''': And then arrests him.
* '''Double Subverted''': But actually takes him to her house for training.
* '''Parodied''': Alice takes Bob to a school for the evil and gives him a series of lectures on how to Do Wrong, Right.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice reprimands him for not wearing a mask, but also for being horrible, but also other flass in the plan, which don't matter anyway because it's a horrible thing to do.
* '''Averted''': Alice arrests Bob.
* '''Enforced''': "It's an old joke, but it's still funny, so we put it in."
* '''Lampshaded''': "You know, I feel there's a more pressing thing wrong here, but I can't put my finger on it."
* '''Invoked''': Alice makes her mind up to teach Bob evil.
* '''Exploited''': Claire uses this an excuse to arrest Alice, for the joke.
* '''Defied''': Alice thinks about saying it as a joke, but decides against it.
* '''Discussed''': "Other cops, they might make jokes, say if you do wrong, you do it right. Not me."
* '''Conversed''': "If you do wrong, do it right. Ugh, what a clichéd joke."
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